I've found another piece of constructive feedback.

The fact that the new tooltip just tells me "battlecruiser" or whatever when I mouse over another player, where before it used to tell me their name and their corp/alliance affiliation is beyond frustrating.

I'm not an idiot. I know it's an effing battlecruiser because it says so on the overview!

Ruining existing useful tools for the sake of new players is a slap in the face to everyone else who plays the game.

Revert this immediately.

If CSM did see those tooltips and let them pass in current form that means you are all idiots.
I'm sorry but I cannot substitute this with another word.
And clearly you don't play this game.

If CSM didn't see those tooltips I ask why aren't you all here?
And: what is your point of existence if you aren't consulted about a feature that will bleed eyes of EVERY FRAKKING PLAYER THAT THIS GAME STILL HAS?

What confuses me, wasn't this supposed to ship with Kronos? I was kinda surprised to see it suddenly pop up in a patch in the middle of nowhere. And especially in it's current state where it seems massively unfinished and untested. What was the point in rushing this out to TQ?

As someone who is new to EVE, computers, and life in general, I had no idea the little "x" at the top left corner of every window in every operating system, program, and game with windows closed the window on which it was placed until informed of such by the new "close" tooltip associated with the aforementioned symbol.

I, for one, feel this design philosophy needs to be expanded. Perhaps by creating a tooltip associated with every window to inform players that each window is, in fact, a window. To continue on this line of thought, a tooltip could be associated with each tooltip explaining that tooltips are, in fact, tooltips. A tooltip could also be associated with the cursor so when someone mouses over their cursor they can learn their cursor is, in fact, a cursor, with helpful information on how exactly to use the cursor and mouse. As we all know the first thing anyone does after they buy their first PC or MAC is install EVE online.

To everyone complaining that an [X] button on a window shouldn't have a tooltip, please hover over your nearest close window button in any random window and tell me what happens.

The thing that is annoying is that it pops up instantly where there should be a delay. The delay is meant for those who do not know what something does to get more info, while those who know it's function can instantly use it without having to read the tooltip.

Implement delay = everyone happy.

Hi,

The team is keeping a close eye on this thread (and the others preceding the dev blog), plus other sources of feedback, and we have some work in progress to adjust some aspects and deal with several cases where the new tooltip format is causing problems.

Your UI devs ought to be fired. If this is what they come up with then they're not capable of producing the quality of work you need. It's not "there's room for improvement", it's "you ****** up in so many ways including not allowing players to properly test these changes, pushing poorly tested changes onto the live server, obviously not testing these changes yourself, and being generally pants-on-head ********."

You'd think you'd have learned from the unified inventory fiasco but it's very very clear that you haven't.

Information was hard to discover in-game ("Targeting? 20.0 points? What the ****?") and some displays of information were unhelpful. It was hard to tell what ship class you were fighting if you didn't have all of the name -> class mappings memorized (this, memorably, lead to me killing a blackbird in a catalyst because I thought blackbirds were frigates).

Now some different displays are redundant, but others are much more helpful. The scrolling thing and the big black box issues were acknowledged by CCP DelegateZero earlier in the thread. The existence of tooltips at all-- the module tooltips, the tooltips on the fitting window and station services screen-- will be something that vets will likely adapt to and ignore, just as we ignored the old tooltips.

"This is the worst feature since ______" is unhelpful feedback; "This is interfering with my ability to do ________, __________, and ________ because I'm trying to x and instead y happens" is useful stuff that CCP can use to actually improve the feature (or kill it, as they have with loot scatter!). If you're interested in a better game for yourself, I'd suggest using the latter language, or at least pretending you're talking to a real person standing in front of you when drafting your post.

They never learn, and keep doing the same thing over and over. Even monkeys learn by their mistakes.

Where is the ON / OFF function?

I will reserve judgement until I log in tonight.

First there was Incarnagate. Now there will be Tooltipgate.

Anyway back on topic. Walked away last night thinking maybe they would grow on me. They haven't and are still a hindrance to me.

We've been following all the constructive feedback on this thread, and in other places, closely and will be making some adjustments to some of the issues that have been exposed since release.

We're intending to release a small update very soon to address the most pressing matters.

Cheers,
Delegate Zero

Haven't logged in to check this out yet. But it looks pretty good from the devblog. Predictive mouse movement should be awesome. Tooltip to see station services is definitely awesome.

I hope that I don't get tooltip bombed though. It could be annoying to try to navigate in space and constantly have to work my way around boxes that are popping up all over the place. But I will reserve judgement until I log in tonight.

We've been following all the constructive feedback on this thread, and in other places, closely and will be making some adjustments to address some of the issues that have been exposed since release.

We're intending to release a small update very soon to address the most pressing matters.

Cheers,
Delegate Zero

We've been following all the constructive feedback on this thread, and in other places, closely and will be making some adjustments to address some of the issues that have been exposed since release.

We're intending to release a small update very soon to address the most pressing matters.

Cheers,
Delegate Zero