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Shamus en Divalone
Dip Dip Potatoe Chip
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Posted - 2014.05.14 08:31:00 -
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Quote:If I hover over a station in the overview window it just tells me: "Station". you-dont-say.jpg. It would make indefinitely more sense to show the full station name in the tool-tip because that's what I want to know.
Same when hovering over player ships, I don't want to know what kind of ship or my standing towards the pilot, I want to know the full pilot's name (and corp/alliance if that would be possible).
This is really annoying requiring a click for info, also, hovering over POS arrays doesn't show online offline state and covers most of the screen with a tooltip when there are a few grouped together. |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
1850
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Posted - 2014.05.14 08:55:00 -
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Lena Lazair wrote:
The fix for that is to use the awesome new ship class icons they added to ISIS in the overview/brackets.
EDIT: OMG, seeing that typed out I just realized it's the same as Archer's ISIS. I mean... that has no relevance on anything whatsoever, but still... sick reference bro, your references are out of control.
Lana... Lana... LANA!!!
Danger zone...
I am not my skills but...
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Eurynome Mangeiri
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.14 09:20:00 -
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like many other, GIVE AN OPTION TO TURN THOSE TOOLTIPS OFF!
seriously, this breaks the game like never before, one of the worst thiing you ever did.
seriously, either give a "no tooltip" option or roll back the update, can't and won't play until done |
Rain6637
Team Evil
14401
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Posted - 2014.05.14 09:23:00 -
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I'm not sure $15 a month entitles one to subject another to so much verbal abuse
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Rainfleet Mk III-á |
Blood Viper Johnson
Jokers.
82
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Posted - 2014.05.14 09:29:00 -
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probably that tooltip will be forever as and jump animation)
Deal with it  |
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2014.05.14 09:30:00 -
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I like the preditive menus. Very clever and incredibly useful; eve has always been difficult to interract with because of it's menu design.
Can you turn off the tool tips? I don't need the ones for the neocon, and I don't want to see them for objects in space as it obscures my view.
Even just the ability to change the delay to a couple of seconds would be great, then people can still see your work if they want to.
Thorn Alliance:-á The worst alliance you ever heard of.
But you had heard of us. |
Muul Udonii
THORN Syndicate
Circle-Of-Two
155
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Posted - 2014.05.14 09:35:00 -
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Lisa Gentilette wrote:
Just look at the neocom wallet button, it's so unnecessary giving me info that I already get when I click that wallet button.
What's the function of telling me what I have in my wallet before I open my wallet? Do I really need to know this or can it wait one more click?
You always got that; before it was just a lot smaller and unobtrusive.
Thorn Alliance:-á The worst alliance you ever heard of.
But you had heard of us. |
Octoven
Phoenix Productions
Headshot Gaming
381
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Posted - 2014.05.14 09:40:00 -
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When I think of predictive mouse movement I am reminded of a real life scenario. So basically the old way is the proper drivers who pull upto the turn off lane on a road to make a nice clean 90 degree turn into a parking lot or onto a road. Predictive mouse menu, yep as expected these are the ones who dont use turn off lanes, they get to as close to the turn off point as they deem needed, and the cut in a straight line to the destination, even if this results in driving a few feet into on coming traffic haha. I don't know...thats just the first thing I thought of when I saw that diagram. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
6122
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Posted - 2014.05.14 10:15:00 -
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I've found another piece of constructive feedback.
The fact that the new tooltip just tells me "battlecruiser" or whatever when I mouse over another player, where before it used to tell me their name and their corp/alliance affiliation is beyond frustrating.
I'm not an idiot. I know it's an effing battlecruiser because it says so on the overview!
Ruining existing useful tools for the sake of new players is a slap in the face to everyone else who plays the game.
Revert this immediately.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
beakerax
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.05.14 10:44:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:The fact that the new tooltip just tells me "battlecruiser" or whatever when I mouse over another player, where before it used to tell me their name and their corp/alliance affiliation is beyond frustrating.
I'm trying to imagine (trying not to imagine?) some UI dev looking at the old tooltips and thinking, "players don't need to know any of that ****, what we have here is a battlecruiser".
Please tell me this new behaviour is some sort of horrible accident. |
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Davader
Space Cleaners
The Gorgon Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.14 10:45:00 -
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If you add new shiny rainbow tips for noobies, there should be also added an option to TURN THEM OFF. Some checkbox in the game menu. Where can I turn these new tips off? |
Rainbow Eyes
Sora no Otoshimano
1
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Posted - 2014.05.14 10:46:00 -
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I HATE this Captain Obvious tolltips . -És I can off these distracting tooltips from my client 
This must have for noobs, not for 1 month + players or Pirate Uniscorns think about all players this (noobs)? They are noobs.
Death beams, Pirate Unicorns
/me: went to shoot the monument 4-4 |
beakerax
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.05.14 10:55:00 -
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Rainbow Eyes wrote:/me: went to shoot the monument 4-4
I'm surprised you could find it. |
Sarka Bathory
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.14 10:56:00 -
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Just a little feedback from a PVP corp/alliance with a quite a few members, Red vs. Blue, on this tooltip-madness:
It went from  to in just a day.
Our chats are filled with frustration about the tooltips, somewhat intelligent fleetfights can not happen anymore - the screen is black, covered by the popup, one can basically only shoot what is closest. Snipers & and on-grid reinforcement ships are pretty obsolete now. Some fleet commanders don`t want to undock and fight anymore.
A lot of corpmates - speaking hundreds here - lost the fun entirely, statements about quitting EVE can be found like every minute.
For the love of God, and the cash of your paying players, please CCP, get rid of this ASAP !
We know you invested money to make this change, and your intentions were god, but sometimes things go south. Get over it, undo the patch, make EVE playable again! |
Wotan1985
Fool Mental Junket
14
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Posted - 2014.05.14 10:56:00 -
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CCP Delegate Zero wrote:Hi,
We'll keep taking in all the feedback and use it in our ongoing design work. A major focus of this team is on improving new player experience by generally raising the level of the all-round player experience. We know this approach is going to require our close attention to feedback and significant iterative work.
Sorry guys at CCP, with such senseless features you are doing the next big step in make playing eve for veterans more painful then improve it. If this steps up, more and more vets will quit. And as every finance and marketing guy knows regular customers will rarely come back. If you want to have more new players then build up the game in a manner that everyone will be happy with it to be more newbie friendly and keep old players in the game.
Just my 2 cents. |
R17a
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
8
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Posted - 2014.05.14 10:57:00 -
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CCP It's rly SUX update.. rly.
Pls add an option to TURN THEM f@%!Gäûg OFF!!! |
dijy ru
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.05.14 11:23:00 -
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Return the option to turn their brains |
Bpedutejib
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.05.14 11:25:00 -
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I can no longer play this game. This is not possible. Remove the tips, this is not improving, it's a bug |
gascanu
Bearing Srl.
121
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Posted - 2014.05.14 11:27:00 -
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beakerax wrote:Rainbow Eyes wrote:/me: went to shoot the monument 4-4 I'm surprised you could find it.
hahahaha, just made my day; thank you good woman! |
Woeste Veegmachine
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
2
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Posted - 2014.05.14 11:33:00 -
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I run Eve on a potato. The tooltips are actually dropping my framerate. They're also a pain in the rear when doing relic/data sites. Would -really- like an option to disable them. |
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Jack Cassidy
TACTICAL AGGRESSION
Easily Excited
11
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Posted - 2014.05.14 11:42:00 -
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So how do we turn these tooltips off?
Seriously, why were we not given an option to turn them off? Cause, you know, EVE needs more clutter on the UI.... |
Rayzilla Zaraki
Tandokuno
212
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Posted - 2014.05.14 11:43:00 -
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I like pretty much everything about the new tool tips except they come up way too fast.
Gate campers are just Carebears with anger issues. |
Vhelnik Cojoin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2014.05.14 11:44:00 -
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I have now had the opportunity to test the new UI 'features' on TQ.
The new predictive menu thinggy: Yes please! Awesome. <3 End of. 
The new tooltips: Oh my gawd...
Constructive feedback time:
*) Previously on TQ, when you intentionally hovered over a group of NPC ships in a mission while partially zoomed out, you got the 'stacking' popup, allowing you to cherry pick which ships to lock with Ctrl+Click. This functionality could have used a bit of polish. yet was overall quite useful as-was.
In missions you frequently wish to target a particular groups of NPCs, or you may end up with full room aggro. Particularly for new players this could be a very bad thing. Infamous example: The first room in the mission Blood Raider Vengeance L4. Here *all* the NPCs are at about the same range when you warp into the deadspace, so selecting your first target groups by sorting the overview for distance won't work. Your *only* option for proper target selection in this mission is to Ctrl+Click the NPC groups in space.
Currently the new tooltips - or rather 'toolTIP (singular) - completely ruins this, as instead of the nice stack of NPC icons of old, you get the singular - and completely non-informative - huge popup for the particular ship you hover over. You cannot even click through the tooltip if you sorta can guess where the next target icon is. You *have* to wait for the tooltip to clear in order to be able to lock any ship icon obscured by the tooltip.
I mean ... seriously?!
*) The new tooltips for the overview are now completely pointless, and important information was taken away.
*) The hu-u-u-ge popup for Shield/Armor/Structure now neatly ( <<-- sarcasm) obscures the ship status information ("Warp Drive Active", "Aligning to ...", "Keeping Foo at range 1234m" etc.). There was a reason people asked for the ship status information to be permanently displayed (a request which the devs obliged to. Yay!), as particularly in PvP it is quite often very important to know at a glance whether you remembered to keep your frenemies at range or whichever. This oversize tooltip needs to go. Unconditionally.
*) I can no longer see on the overview which ships I have locked already. I have a minor visual disability, yet really didn't have any problems with the small fonts and icons of the old UI setup. From the comments in this thread it would seem like there is some way to identify locked targets on the overview, but it is invisible to me now. This is really, really annoying even just for killing NPCs, and I'd hate to think of how this will work out for me in a huge PvP fleet battle.
TL;DR: Yikes! Ow! No! 
Have you Communicated with your fellow capsuleers today? It is good for the EVE-oconomy and o-kay for you. |
Colman Dietmar
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.14 11:49:00 -
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Found some more problems (sorry):
On star map, when one star is behind another, it's really hard to get to the right one. A popup list would be nice.
Also on star map, when the popup is shown, clicking a star to center on it doesn't work. If you manage to click before the popup appears, it does center.
On solar system map, the list of celestials that are close together is still working the old way: messy and without a scrollbar. |
Plexing Laugh
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.05.14 11:50:00 -
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This new tooltips are absolutely annoying. It's impossible to target a thing in a bubble of ships/things, the solar system map thing is just amazing.
We understand that an apparently simple, and terrible, update like this one has a lot of work behind it and that you don't wanna dissapoint the person/people behind it, who worked hard to develop it.
But despite of their good will and hard work this is absolute ****, it's terrible for any kind of mid sized+ activity(Pvp,pve,mining,looting...) in the universe. With the greatest respect to the ones who developed this new feature: it's absolute and terrible ****.
As said 89243582435 times in this post: why don't you test this things or, at least, check experienced and active players opinion? (i'm noway experienced, but you've tons of this kind of players in this thread) |
Saira Minamoto
Cursed Behavior
0
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Posted - 2014.05.14 11:55:00 -
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Where is the ON / OFF function? |
Rofla Copter
The Crusading Gibbo
0
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Posted - 2014.05.14 11:59:00 -
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Remove those idiotic tooltips and fire the genius behind them.
At the very least, allow us to turn off your "great, new and oh so helpful feature"! |
Mr Floydy
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
204
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Posted - 2014.05.14 12:05:00 -
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Short unhelpful post here. But +1 to not liking these. Was really annoying yesterday, I'd control click a shift bracket to target and it pops up with a comparatively huge bit of text telling me what it is - I already know what it is because I selected it.
All this information just seems redundant in the places I've seen it so far. Perhaps other views are more useful but I can't see any benefit for this on the brackets of objects in the main view. |
Jazmine Khardula
The Fedaykin Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.05.14 12:12:00 -
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ok this doesnt need an on/off switch like alot of u are saying. we need this for quick info when pvping. what CCp needs to do is roll it back and release it when its customizable or somthing. cuz right now its completly useless. even for rookies. its like babying the rookies wich makes them ignorant to the real way of doing things. pls this game is hard and it should never be made easy cuz then it will be dead.
go back to making station enviroments for every one to enjoy. CCP!!! u guys are working on the wrong stuff. ther are new games coming out dont make it easy for every one to stop playing this game...
i vote for a rollback and change the sleipnir back to the cyclone for gods sake!!!!!!! |
Davina Sienar
The Misinterpretation of Silence
Mean Coalition
62
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Posted - 2014.05.14 12:14:00 -
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I think the stuff was done by the same UI Programmer
that tried to put bookmarks into pulldown-treemenues some time ago...
please send him to that company doing windoz....
mebbe he has a bigger future there
thanx for downgrading eve again
and... dont try to tell us that this feature was tested somewhere and users reported it as OK ^^
CCP Keynotes:
... blah blah improved communication with users... blah blah we deliver... blah ...
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