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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
367
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:26:00 -
[3391] - Quote
Actually, the cruiser I killed was worth 1.35 Billion. It only dropped 250 mil. Try again chummer, the loot fairy hates me. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5900
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:31:00 -
[3392] - Quote
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:That didn't seem to be his point at all. He just seems very confused. CCP shouldn't manage risk/reward in pvp? Wow.  Sorry but I have a hard time taking anything you say seriously after this.
Oh no a troll alt doesn't take me seriously, I'd better go & biomass. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |

Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
21
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:32:00 -
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If people just followed the Law they'd never get ganked. BTW I like how a thread about us ganking empty freighters (showing that we're not completely in it for profit) has turned into a whinefest about how its too easy to profit from ganking. Together we can make Highsec a better place! The Law of Highsec Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, live it! |

Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
350
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:36:00 -
[3394] - Quote
The point being that no, CCP should NOT manage risk vs reward in PVP, the bloody PLAYERS should. I'm not confused at all, drunk maybe, but not confused. It's not an extreme case. Oftentimes I get drops in excess of 50 million when I kill a battlecruiser with my t1 frigate. Why? Because players fit the damned things. Then, when they explode I get half of it. It's a matter of personal choice to be quite honest. I can make a load of isk popping folks who are highly indignant over me taking their metal scraps, such as the gnosis I destroyed this morning (one less in the game!), for less risk than those who are suiciding their ships in hopes of maybe maybe coming out even or better in an attempt to gank a hauler for their cargo. They are guaranteed to lose what they have for what they may get. I am not guaranteed a fight with my frigate, but when I get it I still am not guaranteed a win... but if I do win I get 50% of what drops without losing my ****. They always lose their ****. Take yer damned pants off your head and listen to the words that are being pointed at you. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5900
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:39:00 -
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Rabe Raptor wrote:If people just followed the Law they'd never get ganked. BTW I like how a thread about us ganking empty freighters (showing that we're not completely in it for profit) has turned into a whinefest about how its too easy to profit from ganking.
Your average suicide ganker makes less isk in a month than a level 4 mission runner. Sometimes you get great drops, but you sit around for hours scanning things for it. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |

Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:40:00 -
[3396] - Quote
Omar Alharazaad wrote:Take yer damned pants off your head and listen to the words that are being pointed at you.
Completely relevant to the above quote
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1533
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:40:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:zero risk activity
I refer you to posts Tippia made a few months back explaining that this is completely wrong. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
21
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:48:00 -
[3398] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Rabe Raptor wrote:If people just followed the Law they'd never get ganked. BTW I like how a thread about us ganking empty freighters (showing that we're not completely in it for profit) has turned into a whinefest about how its too easy to profit from ganking. Your average suicide ganker makes less isk in a month than a level 4 mission runner. Sometimes you get great drops, but you sit around for hours scanning things for it.
Very very wrong :) Together we can make Highsec a better place! The Law of Highsec Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, live it! |

Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
355
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:49:00 -
[3399] - Quote
Or basically any other post by Tippia explaining how you are completely wrong. There are several. |

NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:49:00 -
[3400] - Quote
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: You appear to have missed Mallak Azarias point.
If people weren't dumb enough to make themselves profitable to gank they wouldn't be a worthwhile target for suicide gankers to choose, it's not a hard concept to grasp for those of us that are capable of rational thought.
I believe he's referring to your blanket statement that suicide ganking is the ONLY high profit, low cost, zero risk activity in the game. His anecdote proves your statement to be false, which is probably why you'r trying to spin it in a fashion that doesn't make you look like a fool.
Suicide gankers get to pick their targets, ensuring profitability
No, I understood his non-point. It is a typical victim blaming mentality. "It is the homeowners fault that someone broke in and killed his whole family because he used iron bars on his door instead of titanium". 
You kids should hear yourselves.
On top of that. I'd say the majority of players that fall victim to suicide ganking aren't even aware that it is possible untill it happens to them. Like the margin trading scam, suicide ganking only requires the victim to be unaware of certain game mechanics to be successful. I would never have thought it would be possible to gank a freighter in HS without reading about it on the forums and being curious.
Being a victim of suicide ganking doesn't neccesarily have anything to do with a lack of intelligence. Your victims are most likely to be casual players that pay cash for their subs and have real lives that make EVE easy to drop once a catastrophic loss occurs on a freighter that the person has been potentially saving up for months to buy, or transports all their goods in a hauler, not knowing a single vexor can easily take it out. It is easy to not be aware of concord response times when security status has much more obvious differences.
In reguards to that confused person.
Sorry, but he didn't prove anything at all. It makes no sense for a 1.35 bil ship to try to gank an incursus. The example he gave is totally ridiculous and unrealistic. Honestly feel bad for you that you don't realize this. |
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12738
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:53:00 -
[3401] - Quote
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote: Sorry, but he didn't prove anything at all. It makes no sense for a 1.35 bil ship to try to gank an incursus. The example he gave is totally ridiculous and unrealistic. Honestly feel bad for you that you don't realize this.
Its the other way round. HE was the incursus that killed the 1.35 bil ship. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5901
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:54:00 -
[3402] - Quote
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: You appear to have missed Mallak Azarias point.
If people weren't dumb enough to make themselves profitable to gank they wouldn't be a worthwhile target for suicide gankers to choose, it's not a hard concept to grasp for those of us that are capable of rational thought.
I believe he's referring to your blanket statement that suicide ganking is the ONLY high profit, low cost, zero risk activity in the game. His anecdote proves your statement to be false, which is probably why you'r trying to spin it in a fashion that doesn't make you look like a fool.
Suicide gankers get to pick their targets, ensuring profitability No, I understood his non-point. It is a typical victim blaming mentality. "It is the homeowners fault that someone broke in and killed his whole family because he used iron bars on his door instead of titanium".  You kids should hear yourselves. On top of that. I'd say the majority of players that fall victim to suicide ganking aren't even aware that it is possible untill it happens to them. Like the margin trading scam, suicide ganking only requires the victim to be unaware of certain game mechanics to be successful. I would never have thought it would be possible to gank a freighter in HS without reading about it on the forums and being curious. Being a victim of suicide ganking doesn't neccesarily have anything to do with a lack of intelligence. Your victims are most likely to be casual players that pay cash for their subs and have real lives that make EVE easy to drop once a catastrophic loss occurs on a freighter that the person has been potentially saving up for months to buy. In reguards to that confused person. Sorry, but he didn't prove anything at all. It makes no sense for a 1.35 bil ship to try to gank an incursus. The example he gave is totally ridiculous and unrealistic. Honestly feel bad for you that you don't realize this.
Sorry 1-day old troll alt, but you're wrong & I think you know it. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1533
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:55:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:You kids should hear yourselves.
Says the NPC who equates home invasion and murder to fictional events in a video game. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4042
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:57:00 -
[3404] - Quote
derp, move along =][= |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5902
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:57:00 -
[3405] - Quote
admiral root wrote:NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:You kids should hear yourselves. Says the NPC who equates home invasion and murder to fictional events in a video game.
You should see what he said about gate campers. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |

Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
356
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:00:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: You appear to have missed Mallak Azarias point.
If people weren't dumb enough to make themselves profitable to gank they wouldn't be a worthwhile target for suicide gankers to choose, it's not a hard concept to grasp for those of us that are capable of rational thought.
I believe he's referring to your blanket statement that suicide ganking is the ONLY high profit, low cost, zero risk activity in the game. His anecdote proves your statement to be false, which is probably why you'r trying to spin it in a fashion that doesn't make you look like a fool.
Suicide gankers get to pick their targets, ensuring profitability No, I understood his non-point. It is a typical victim blaming mentality. "It is the homeowners fault that someone broke in and killed his whole family because he used iron bars on his door instead of titanium".  You kids should hear yourselves. On top of that. I'd say the majority of players that fall victim to suicide ganking aren't even aware that it is possible untill it happens to them. Like the margin trading scam, suicide ganking only requires the victim to be unaware of certain game mechanics to be successful. I would never have thought it would be possible to gank a freighter in HS without reading about it on the forums and being curious. Being a victim of suicide ganking doesn't neccesarily have anything to do with a lack of intelligence. Your victims are most likely to be casual players that pay cash for their subs and have real lives that make EVE easy to drop once a catastrophic loss occurs on a freighter that the person has been potentially saving up for months to buy, or transports all their goods in a hauler, not knowing a single vexor can easily take it out. It is easy to not be aware of concord response times when security status has much more obvious differences. In reguards to that confused person. Sorry, but he didn't prove anything at all. It makes no sense for a 1.35 bil ship to try to gank an incursus. The example he gave is totally ridiculous and unrealistic. Honestly feel bad for you that you don't realize this.
Oi. Nutmonkey. Yes. Baltec1 is correct. 1.35 bil ship got hellamad at me for taking his metal scraps. My incursus then had supersized sexytime in his othrus's hindquarters. no spitting on it first. 250 mil in loot resulted, plus a bonus of 400mil in bounty (YAY) ISK does not equal tank. Oh yes, and I pay cash for my accout as I cannot be arsed to bother with plexbullshite. So your money argument is pretty much mulch like the isk vs tank idea as well. As said before, I'm not confused. Your pants are on your head. Take them off, sit down, and STFU. |

Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
356
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:03:00 -
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perhaps in the stages of advanced inebriation I have discarded my more delicate measures available for diplomacy... given this I still don't give 1/4 of a rats arse. You get it. They get it. if you pretend you don't get it then you are lying to yourself. |

NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:04:00 -
[3408] - Quote
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Oi. Nutmonkey. Yes. Baltec1 is correct. 1.35 bil ship got hellamad at me for taking his metal scraps. My incursus t
like I said, a ridiculous and unrealistic example of suicide ganking. I'm surprised you thought to offer such an extreme case of anecdotal "evidence".
Sorry, but I don't think anyone can take you or baltec1 very seriously.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
356
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:05:00 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: You appear to have missed Mallak Azarias point.
If people weren't dumb enough to make themselves profitable to gank they wouldn't be a worthwhile target for suicide gankers to choose, it's not a hard concept to grasp for those of us that are capable of rational thought.
I believe he's referring to your blanket statement that suicide ganking is the ONLY high profit, low cost, zero risk activity in the game. His anecdote proves your statement to be false, which is probably why you'r trying to spin it in a fashion that doesn't make you look like a fool.
Suicide gankers get to pick their targets, ensuring profitability No, I understood his non-point. It is a typical victim blaming mentality. "It is the homeowners fault that someone broke in and killed his whole family because he used iron bars on his door instead of titanium".  You kids should hear yourselves. On top of that. I'd say the majority of players that fall victim to suicide ganking aren't even aware that it is possible untill it happens to them. Like the margin trading scam, suicide ganking only requires the victim to be unaware of certain game mechanics to be successful. I would never have thought it would be possible to gank a freighter in HS without reading about it on the forums and being curious. Being a victim of suicide ganking doesn't neccesarily have anything to do with a lack of intelligence. Your victims are most likely to be casual players that pay cash for their subs and have real lives that make EVE easy to drop once a catastrophic loss occurs on a freighter that the person has been potentially saving up for months to buy, or transports all their goods in a hauler, not knowing a single vexor can easily take it out. It is easy to not be aware of concord response times when security status has much more obvious differences. In reguards to that confused person. Sorry, but he didn't prove anything at all. It makes no sense for a 1.35 bil ship to try to gank an incursus. The example he gave is totally ridiculous and unrealistic. Honestly feel bad for you that you don't realize this. Oi. Nutmonkey. Yes. Baltec1 is correct. 1.35 bil ship got hellamad at me for taking his metal scraps. My incursus then had supersized sexytime in his othrus's hindquarters. no spitting on it first. 250 mil in loot resulted, plus a bonus of 400mil in bounty (YAY) ISK does not equal tank. Oh yes, and I pay cash for my account as I cannot be arsed to bother with plexbullshite. So your money argument is pretty much mulch like the isk vs tank idea as well. As said before, I'm not confused. Your pants are on your head. Take them off, sit down, and STFU. Edit: I fixed some spelling errors. not all of them, maybe? Maybe not. |

NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:05:00 -
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admiral root wrote:NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:You kids should hear yourselves. Says the NPC who equates home invasion and murder to fictional events in a video game.
it was purely an example of a victim blaming mentality.
Try to stay on topic instead of being so butt mad over being wrong. |
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
1534
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:06:00 -
[3411] - Quote
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Sorry, but I don't think anyone can take you or baltec1 very seriously.
You can seriously take them seriously. You, on the other hand... No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4043
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:07:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Oi. Nutmonkey. Yes. Baltec1 is correct. 1.35 bil ship got hellamad at me for taking his metal scraps. My incursus t
like I said, a ridiculous and unrealistic example of suicide ganking. I'm surprised you thought to offer such an extreme case of anecdotal "evidence". Sorry, but I don't think anyone can take you or baltec1 very seriously. folow the link in my sig for more then, =][= |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5902
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:07:00 -
[3413] - Quote
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Oi. Nutmonkey. Yes. Baltec1 is correct. 1.35 bil ship got hellamad at me for taking his metal scraps. My incursus t
like I said, a ridiculous and unrealistic example of suicide ganking. I'm surprised you thought to offer such an extreme case of anecdotal "evidence". Sorry, but I don't think anyone can take you or baltec1 very seriously.
Whereas you have provided zero evidence at all that suicide ganking is a high-profit risk-free activity. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |

Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:08:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Suicide gankers get to pick their targets, ensuring profitability Correct, I never said that they didn't. What I did say was that there are ways to not be the target, one of which is not being dumb enough to make yourself a profitable one.
Quote:No, I understood his non-point. It is a typical victim blaming mentality. "It is the homeowners fault that someone broke in and killed his whole family because he used iron bars on his door instead of titanium".  No it's not. Using your example of the homeowner, it's apportioning blame because said homeowner decided to ignore all of the advice given by law enforcement to prevent such a thing happening, put all his worldly goods on display in the window, left his firearm on the table and forgot to lock the door.
Quote:You kids should hear yourselves. Kid? Seriously is that the best you can come up with? Biomass, do yourself, and the rest of us a favor.
Quote:On top of that. I'd say the majority of players that fall victim to suicide ganking aren't even aware that it is possible untill it happens to them. Like the margin trading scam, suicide ganking only requires the victim to be unaware of certain game mechanics to be successful. I would never have thought it would be possible to gank a freighter in HS without reading about it on the forums and being curious.
Being a victim of suicide ganking doesn't neccesarily have anything to do with a lack of intelligence. Your victims are most likely to be casual players that pay cash for their subs and have real lives that make EVE easy to drop once a catastrophic loss occurs on a freighter that the person has been potentially saving up for months to buy, or transports all their goods in a hauler, not knowing a single vexor can easily take it out. It is easy to not be aware of concord response times when security status has much more obvious differences. CCP have never tried to hide that fact that this sort of thing is possible in Eve. Eve has the reputation it does for a reason 
Casual player here, pay cash, never been ganked, have a real life and am very aware of what can happen to my stuff; which is why I take precautions so that it doesn't.
Quote:In reguards to that confused person.
Sorry, but he didn't prove anything at all. It makes no sense for a 1.35 bil ship to try to gank an incursus. The example he gave is totally ridiculous and unrealistic. Honestly feel bad for you that you don't realize this. The only person that's confused is you. He was flying the Incursus, he used game mechanics and the Cruiser pilots ignorance of them to get a relatively tasty kill and a nice drop.
I feel bad for you because your reading comprehension is lacking. NPC Forum Alt, because reasons. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5902
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:09:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:admiral root wrote:NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:You kids should hear yourselves. Says the NPC who equates home invasion and murder to fictional events in a video game. it was purely an example of a victim blaming mentality. Try to stay on topic instead of being so butt mad over being wrong.
Yeah, except you still equated home invasion & murder to a guy in a spaceship game blowing up another spaceship in the spaceship game. Why stop there? Tell us more about these things. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |

Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1301
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:09:00 -
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While I grant the new player tutorials are abysmal at expectation levelling with new players the cold dark realities of EvE life, we can never allow ignorance of (EvE) laws to become a defense.
Also, with the wealth of knowledge that is repeatedly shared on how to avoid ganking, there is ultimately no excuse for the constant whining from butthurt gank victims.
Let us never forget, ganking has already been nerfed mechanics wise by CCP, in a misguided attempt to turn our beloved game into a bubble-wrapped theme park.
ENOUGH!
Its time for WoW-reject gank victims to STFU, HTFU and play EvE as GOD intended....not try to change EvE into WoW with this incessant whining.
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Would you like to know more? |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
1537
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:09:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:[Whereas you have provided zero evidence at all that suicide ganking is a high-profit risk-free activity.
Evi-what, now? You dare to doubt the word of an NPC troll?! No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
357
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:10:00 -
[3418] - Quote
Sorry. I meant to edit and apparently reposted. My point was that I do NOT gank. You apparently do not get this. The only PVP I engage in is completely consensual. The target MUST shoot at me first. There is no ganking involved. CONCORD never leaves the doughnut shop. I go flashy (suspect for the EVE impaired) and then someone decides it's a lovely idea to shoot at me. After that I get to stick the antenna of my incursus in all the spots that it will fit in... and in some cases places it won't. The example I gave was not rediculous by any means. hit up zkillboard and search me up and you'll find exactly what I'm talking about.
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Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:11:00 -
[3419] - Quote
admiral root wrote: NPC troll?! Hey I resemble that remark 
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons. |

Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
357
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:13:00 -
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Indignation may have gotten the better of me there. If so, I apologize to those whom I respect. The rest can bugger off. |
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