"other" is not a required word in that sentence.

In your view CCP Falcon should have said "CONCORD is not a police force at all. They are not in highsec to protect you. They are merely an isk-sink that destroy ships that commit a criminal act subsequent to such act occurring. Go protect yourselves."

The key point is that CONCORD punish for breaking the law- they are not just some "isk sink mechanic."

I'm not seeing it...please lay out the scenario.

It is required to draw the conclusions you're drawing. Since it's missing, those conclusions can't be drawn.

Parking meter attendants can be described the same way, yet they are not a police force.
The UN can be described the same way, yet they are not a police force.
Hall monitors can be described the same way, yet they are not a police force.
I can be described the same way, yet I am not a police force.

GǪand guess what? He has said pretty much exactly that. Do you know why? Because that's how highsec works; that's how CONCORD works; and that's how personal responsibility works.

Onoz, WTs incoming. Trigger CONCORD to get a free out if it turns out we can't take them!

All the groups you gave serve a police-like function, they enforce laws. Whether its the UN, parking attendants, or hall monitors. They are the entities that ensure compliance with the applicable laws.

"McDonalds workers offer a level of deterrent just the same as any law enforcement agency, but as with any police for they're reactive and punitive rather than proactive."

Doesn't make sense now, right? Why? Because McDonalds workers are not a "law enforcement agency" and not a "police force."

CCP Falcon said that exact thing in the sentences immediately surrounding the one you're quoting:



Notice the use of a rhetorical question to explain that CCP (and thus the mechanics of the game) do not provide and are not meant to provide protection to you.

Also notice how he coolly dismisses your claim that HS is not a place where you need friends.

I would be thrilled of CONCORD would act like hall monitors, the UN, or parking attendants. These people do more than just hand out fines. They also take necessary action to enforce the laws and accomplish their duties. A hall monitor who sees Student A beating up Student B would not just give them both tickets for being out of class and go home, he would break the fight up. Ditto for the UN. And the parking attendant would also enforce other laws in his jurisdiction.

If fighting weren't against the rules in the school, I'd expect him to do exactly that.
The parking attendant will not enforce not-laws. Just like CONCORD doesn't punish those not performing Criminal Actions in HS.

Ever been to highsec?

Not getting your scenario.

I would be thrilled of CONCORD would act like hall monitors, the UN, or parking attendants.

Ever been to highsec?

using bumping to render a ship unable to warp, which is the functional equivalent, SHOULD be a crime.

And again - just like warp scrambling is a crime, using bumping to render a ship unable to warp, which is the functional equivalent, SHOULD be a crime.

Whats your point? Trying to fly a freighter under a wardec is about as moronic as it gets.

And again - just like warp scrambling is a crime, using bumping to render a ship unable to warp, which is the functional equivalent, SHOULD be a crime.

I know....and yet it happens every day, multiple times a day. Welcome to highsec.

What is it you don't get about it? You get an instawarp that you can call in if you need it, which means you are in full control of the encounter. Before they can bring anything to bear on you, you have already decided the outcome. This is a bad thing. Your idea is bad. it also solves nothing.

That is not their role so they never will.

That doesn't answer his question: why are you even trying to fly a freighter under a wardec?

GǪexcept that there is exactly zero functional overlap, as you know full well by now. So there is zero reason why it should be a crime. That's why it isn't on and why CONCORD (to say nothing of the GMs) doesn't and shouldn't care about it.

CCP Falcon was referring to people getting blown up before CONCORD arrived (when I agree they deserve no protection). My point is that CONCORD should act intelligently once it shows up, and not let a ship effectively be rendered unable to warp due to bumping, hence my 60 seconds of immunity from bumping.

No it shouldn't.

It is laughably easy to avoid and if you do get bumped there are several very easy ways to get out of it.

And again - just like warp scrambling is a crime, using bumping to render a ship unable to warp, which is the functional equivalent, SHOULD be a crime.

At no point does he limit his statements the way you're claiming he does.

CONCORD does act intelligently to enforce the laws of New Eden. Preventing someone from warping is not against the law in New Eden, only Activating an Aggressive Module in HS is.

Since you claimed to be a lawyer, think of this as being like going to Louisiana and arguing Common Law.

You could be aligned and insta warp already?

And the fact is that when you try to press that warp button and it doesn't work, you don't care whether its from a scram or from bumping.

You don't define crimes by hypertechnical actions like "activating" a module

You don't define crimes by hypertechnical actions like "activating" a module. You define them by effect like "impairing mobility." It would be like punishing for murder by stabbing and not murder by bludgeoning - it would literally make no sense.

Warp scrambling is also easy to avoid. Blow up the scram...get out before they lock, move out of range, have friends bump them out of range. Do we care? Do we not have CONCORD punishing for restricting mobility because its easy to avoid?

And it shouldn't, here where that can be easily remedied by adopting my solution (and look how weak the parade of horribles in objection is...."losing control of the situation," seriously?"), it should be adopted to make CONCORD's enforcement of the law more logical, and less hypertechnical.

Except they will protect you from your incompetence in getting scrammed, right? And why is my idea terrible? Please give me your horrible scenario.

Except they will protect you from your incompetence in getting scrammed, right?

And why is my idea terrible?

Not getting your scenario...so you spawn CONCORD and now can't be bumped...you wait for the WT's to come (presumable you align away since you may want to run). They show up....and now you can instawarp...but you could do that anyway...they will never have time to bump you....and anyway why would they bother? It's much quicker to just scram you....again your parade of horribles is breaking down.....

I would be thrilled of CONCORD would act like hall monitors, the UN, or parking attendants. These people do more than just hand out fines. They also take necessary action to enforce the laws and accomplish their duties. A hall monitor who sees Student A beating up Student B would not just give them both tickets for being out of class and go home, he would break the fight up. Ditto for the UN. And the parking attendant would also enforce other laws in his jurisdiction.

No, they wont. Concord will not stop people from pointing you.

No.

This has already been explained in full.

Except they will protect you from your incompetence in getting scrammed, right? And why is my idea terrible? Please give me your horrible scenario.

Veers, are you braindead? Concord would be the hall attendant. He shows up AFTER it starts.

You completely failed to give a scenario where this would be problematic.