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Analeesa
Dontgiveaduck Syndrome
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Posted - 2014.08.20 00:57:00 -
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bacon lettuce tomato wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:bacon lettuce tomato wrote:Analeesa wrote:bacon lettuce tomato wrote:CCP is going to lose a lot of PLEX sales and possibly subscriptions as a result of BLINK closing
If anything this is what is actually "screwing them over"
No they won't, there will still be the same demand and same supply price as always. Don't try make up **** to make it seem like this is terrible. Some people would buy PLEX to spend on BLINK before this 'special' or whatever it was. I was on comms when some addicts did it anyway. Also, people in the Somner Lotteries channel are talking about their own subscriptions. I'm not making anything up, why would I? I don't care at all. I don't even play BLINK and just resubbed today because of the summer special... You seem like you care a lot though. Well sounds like you're unsubbing again. You should biomass though because a name like that ought to go to someone who actually cares. I should unsub because I don't really care about this BLINK drama? That doesn't make any sense. I'm not even that sure of what's going on, I just came back to the game. Something about SOMER giving people ISK for using his referral link. Then CCP Falcon being really engaged, something, something.
You do realize it's CCP Falcon's job to make us fully aware of stuff like this.
He is community guy thing.
It's his job to be engaged and informative on the current shenanigans.
Truth eludes he who does not seek it both eyes wide. |
I Want ISK
I Want ISK Corp
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Posted - 2014.08.20 00:58:00 -
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I am the creator of iwantisk.com and I am here to state my opinion on this matter.
IF CCP decided to allow somer to do this, then somer should have been allowed to do it.
The bigger problem lies in the fact that the community was the one that got rid of blink's scheme it the first time, not CCP.
So why does CCP feel that this form of "Buyer's Club" (words from CCP legal) should be allowed?
On top of that, Somer should not have accepted any form of favoritism that gave them more fame, ISK, and recognition which in turn gave them an infamous status across the community. Somer you should have chosen the community.
I am the competition and I honestly hate to see the competition go. Competition makes the game more fun.
I don't believe this is the end of blink. They can definitely use this to their advantage. But blink was already starting to lose lots of its speed and activity.
Ultimately, the community decided, and the community has decided that Somer should not be given any favoritism from CCP as that means that CCP is interfering with who is rich and known in eve. Keep it the sandbox it is supposed to be and don't allow certain people to force you to change and manipulate the rules to their advantage. Stick to your EULA and stop making EULAs that are so broad that no one can understand them and no case can be dismissed with how vague the EULA is.
My site has not once been given any favor by CCP. They tormented some of our bankers ofc but that is a whole other story that if I tell it to you, could be a violation of these confusing EULA terms.
BTW, If you post a link to somer blink's site on these forums, the forum system will not alert you that you are leaving the forums. Post my link and the forums will force you to make sure you want to leave.
FAVORITISM. |
Suzie Swindle
Code Enforcement and Compliance Agency
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:01:00 -
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To those who say its not somers fault but CCP how can you get to that conclusion with the way the facts are as they sit right now, if they did this for the love of the game, and the fun, not for financial game, then pretty weak reason to bail... here is a small list of evidence....
1) Somers was told not to do this last year with their "bonus" program when they took the week grace period to go crazy with it and cash in as much as possible and then did the same thing again.
2) Somers own "proof" shows talks about "no" bonus offered, yet when it came time a bonus was offered
3) Somers claimed it was vetted by CCP and totaly legal/legit, when in fact it wasnt legal it was someone who was in sales... (this part is my opinion, but it was a friend most likely as to how they talked to eachother)
4) Somers claims they are "tossed under the bus" so they are quitting... if you are in the right and have not committed an offense do you tantrum and take your wagon home?
5) Somers shuts down as soon as they cannot run their kickback for cash program
Those who are saying "ohhhh well they did so much for the community".... you are right... but it wasn't for fun and for the game...well at least not at the end... it became a kickback for cash, and their good will to the community and donations to stuff was little more then advertising for the cash that would come in.... anyways its all been said before...
Oh and to those who say "who cares they brought so much more to eve" they should be able to make money off of it, its no big deal... There is ZERO tolerance for RMT... they shouldn't have special treatment....
And anyone who is quitting Eve over this... please send me your stuffs and isk... thanks! |
bacon lettuce tomato
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:02:00 -
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Analeesa wrote:bacon lettuce tomato wrote:
I should unsub because I don't really care about this BLINK drama? That doesn't make any sense. I'm not even that sure of what's going on, I just came back to the game.
Something about SOMER giving people ISK for using his referral link. Then CCP Falcon being really engaged, something, something.
You do realize it's CCP Falcon's job to make us fully aware of stuff like this. He is community guy thing. It's his job to be engaged and informative on the current shenanigans.
ok, thanks for your input
It's valuable and you are valuable as a person.
I appreciate you and acknowledge you and thanks again for your response to this topic.
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ExcaliburX
The Senate and People of Rome
Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:02:00 -
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In other news...
CCP is releasing a new "casino" feature for EVE Online with the new Hyperion patch!
"Walking in station" now has a whole new meaning! Open the door that has been locked in your station for years to access the new EVE casino! Gamble your isk away to your heart's content!
In all seriousness, CCP should make something similar to Blink that is within the EVE client. You would have a new isk sink. You would be engaging the player base. It would pull money away from other third-parties that could be RMT'ing. All under the supervision of the CCP security team. |
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
272
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:03:00 -
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No wonder the price for PLEX on the market rose so fast. How did the economist not catch on to this? Is this why he quit? What was CCP's cut of Somer's profits beyond the possible increased PLEX sales? |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
2294
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:03:00 -
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Just to throw my own opinion into the ever-widening ring...
I don't think that with SOMERblink shutting down the issue is settled or resolved. Other than any appropriate punishments as determined and meted out by CCP, I think the real issue here is the ambiguity in the third part policies governing what is and isn't allowed in third party development. As someone who's been trying to get into it, that ambiguity has by far been the largest barrier of entry. The complete mess of official information on the subject is so far scattered throughout blog posts, official articles, wiki entries, and year after year of dev forum posts that it is next to impossible to get clear, unequivocal answers to even some of the most basic questions.
And I don't mean to imply that there is no effort being made by CCP on the matter. I know CCP Foxfour and Falcon, for example, have been extraordinarily active and helpful in the community, but it seems that they badly need reinforcements. If CCP wants to help prevent something like this from happening again the first step would be a clear, official source of centralized information regarding the third party development rules and regulations. All of the ambiguity surrounding the rules as they stand is just a recipe for 'workarounds' and 'clever manipulation' of the rules that could potentially result in more instances of RMT or other rule-breaking such as this one. |
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
186
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:06:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:Just to throw my own opinion into the ever-widening ring...
I don't think that with SOMERblink shutting down the issue is settled or resolved. Other than any appropriate punishments as determined and meted out by CCP, I think the real issue here is the ambiguity in the third part policies governing what is and isn't allowed in third party development. As someone who's been trying to get into it, that ambiguity has by far been the largest barrier of entry. The complete mess of official information on the subject is so far scattered throughout blog posts, official articles, wiki entries, and year after year of dev forum posts that it is next to impossible to get clear, unequivocal answers to even some of the most basic questions.
And I don't mean to imply that there is no effort being made by CCP on the matter. I know CCP Foxfour and Falcon, for example, have been extraordinarily active and helpful in the community, but it seems that they badly need reinforcements. If CCP wants to help prevent something like this from happening again the first step would be a clear, official source of centralized information regarding the third party development rules and regulations. All of the ambiguity surrounding the rules as they stand is just a recipe for 'workarounds' and 'clever manipulation' of the rules that could potentially result in more instances of RMT or other rule-breaking such as this one.
Indeed.. if I was a 3rd Party henceforth anything I'd do I'd want a signed letter from CCP Legal to hold them accountable.. Clearly taking their word for it amounts to nothing in the face of any bad PR. |
Captain Aizen1
Cedar Knolls Research
STEEL BROTHERHOOD
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:07:00 -
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Hey CCP DEV'S SOMERBLINK JUST PUT THIS ON THERE SITE http://cogdev.net/blink/lisa.txt |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23956
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:08:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:I just burned a PLEX to come back here and say: This
Best PLEX expenditure ever.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
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Analeesa
Dontgiveaduck Syndrome
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:09:00 -
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Been there since the beginning.
Truth eludes he who does not seek it both eyes wide. |
Cherry Yeyo
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:09:00 -
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I Want ISK wrote:If CCP decided to allow somer to do this, then somer should have been allowed to do it
Except they didnt decide- Falcon said this whole thing was never run by legal. Somer took his latest scheme and ran with it and hoped no one would pay attention, the dude has been trying to turn his massive pile of useless isk (to him) into real life bucks ever since last year.
CCP Rise>Sentry drones have enormous downsides |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
11166
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:10:00 -
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That's been there for a day or so. They're fully aware of it.
Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Captain Aizen1
Cedar Knolls Research
STEEL BROTHERHOOD
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:10:00 -
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Analeesa wrote:Been there since the beginning.
just pop up for me? hmm
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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
186
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:10:00 -
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Cherry Yeyo wrote:I Want ISK wrote:If CCP decided to allow somer to do this, then somer should have been allowed to do it Except they didnt decide- Falcon said this whole thing was never run by legal. Somer took his latest scheme and ran with it and hoped no one would pay attention, the dude has been trying to turn his massive pile of useless isk (to him) into real life bucks ever since last year.
He did ask if he needed to go through Legal.. CCP was the one that said Naa you're fine. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23956
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:10:00 -
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Sniper Smith wrote:So what Blink was doing was wrong, But Eve Time Code can give you a Free PLEX for every $250 spent..
"New Promo - Your business counts! Starting May 9th 2014, After every $250 spent you will recieve 1 free PLEX"
Standard customer loyalty program (if a bit on the miserly side GÇö isn't GÇ£buy 10 get 1 for freeGÇ¥ the standard?  ) with no in-game component. So there's no comparison there.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:10:00 -
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bacon lettuce tomato wrote:I should unsub because I don't really care about this BLINK drama? That doesn't make any sense. I'm not even that sure of what's going on, I just came back to the game.
Something about SOMER giving people ISK for using his referral link. Then CCP Falcon being really engaged, something, something.
I'm gonna go ahead and second the motion proposed by the gentleman from Goonswarm, on the grounds that if you're wading through 20 pages of forum horse-hockey (as Col. Potter used to say) to let us all know how much you don't care, you've already got a fair amount of excess biomass that's clearly backed up from your lower intestine to the point where it's coming out of your mouth. |
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
186
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:11:00 -
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Captain Aizen1 wrote:Analeesa wrote:Been there since the beginning. just pop up for me? hmm
It was on the GTC page for at least a day now.. |
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
186
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:12:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Sniper Smith wrote:So what Blink was doing was wrong, But Eve Time Code can give you a Free PLEX for every $250 spent..
"New Promo - Your business counts! Starting May 9th 2014, After every $250 spent you will recieve 1 free PLEX" Standard customer loyalty program (if a bit on the miserly side GÇö isn't GÇ£buy 10 get 1 for freeGÇ¥ the standard? ) with no in-game component. So there's no comparison there.
How is that any better than what Blink was doing?
Buy a bunch from our reseller get some isk free.. If what Blink is doing is RMT, then so it this. |
Captain Aizen1
Cedar Knolls Research
STEEL BROTHERHOOD
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:12:00 -
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Sniper Smith wrote:Captain Aizen1 wrote:Analeesa wrote:Been there since the beginning. just pop up for me? hmm It was on the GTC page for at least a day now..
oh don't look at that at all never buy gtc.
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Clanggedin Silverbeard
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:12:00 -
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I WANT MY TOKENS BACK, its both of your fault CCP and SOMER, i spent 49 bil to make tokens for this celebration (wich now should go in plain air???). you favored somer CCP so now its time to make it all right. same as character scamming perhaps? |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
11166
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:13:00 -
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Unezka Turigahl wrote:No wonder the price for PLEX on the market rose so fast. How did the economist not catch on to this? Is this why he quit? What was CCP's cut of Somer's profits beyond the possible increased PLEX sales?
No, Dr. Eyjo is now Rector of the Universtiy of Akureyri. It's a rather prestigious position and I don't blame him at all for leaving CCP for that.
Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Lord BryanII
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:13:00 -
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After the **** from last year, CCP should have given Somer a relationship manager that knew what was up |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5838
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:15:00 -
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Sniper Smith wrote:Tippia wrote:Sniper Smith wrote:So what Blink was doing was wrong, But Eve Time Code can give you a Free PLEX for every $250 spent..
"New Promo - Your business counts! Starting May 9th 2014, After every $250 spent you will recieve 1 free PLEX" Standard customer loyalty program (if a bit on the miserly side GÇö isn't GÇ£buy 10 get 1 for freeGÇ¥ the standard? ) with no in-game component. So there's no comparison there. How is that any better than what Blink was doing? Buy a bunch from our reseller get some isk free.. If what Blink is doing is RMT, then so it this.
It's not about what they're doing. It's about who hates who. No one hates Eve Time Code...yet
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
11166
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:15:00 -
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Clanggedin Silverbeard wrote:I WANT MY TOKENS BACK, its both of your fault CCP and SOMER, i spent 49 bil to make tokens for this celebration (wich now should go in plain air???). you favored somer CCP so now its time to make it all right. same as character scamming perhaps?
Did you read Somer's front page at all? Supposedly he's paying it back. Whether or not he honors that is up in the air. No idea what kind of stipulations CCP will make either, or what they'll do with the confiscated ISK should they ban Somer's accounts.
Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
187
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:16:00 -
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Lord BryanII wrote:After the **** from last year, CCP should have given Somer a relationship manager that knew what was up
Or one that ran things through Legal..
I mean even Somer expected it to go through Legal and was told no.. WTF o_0 |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23959
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:17:00 -
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Sniper Smith wrote:How is that any better than what Blink was doing? It's not RMT.
It's also not lying to (the wrong) CCP execs about what you're doing to create a false GÇ£official okGÇ¥ to cover up that RMT.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
0wl
Pocket Pirates
40
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:18:00 -
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CCP Said they could do this, it's their fault if they didn't check the fine print. I'm not surprised Somer are up and leaving after this. If someone gave you a cow to milk, then came around and slaughtered it in front of you saying "I didn't say you could have the milk." ... What would you do, I know what you'd do, you would say things like "wtf, you're a psycho cow killing crazy person and now please explain to my milk loving kids why there's no milk and a dead cow in the front yard." |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
11167
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:18:00 -
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Sniper Smith wrote:Tippia wrote:Sniper Smith wrote:So what Blink was doing was wrong, But Eve Time Code can give you a Free PLEX for every $250 spent..
"New Promo - Your business counts! Starting May 9th 2014, After every $250 spent you will recieve 1 free PLEX" Standard customer loyalty program (if a bit on the miserly side GÇö isn't GÇ£buy 10 get 1 for freeGÇ¥ the standard? ) with no in-game component. So there's no comparison there. How is that any better than what Blink was doing? Buy a bunch from our reseller get some isk free.. If what Blink is doing is RMT, then so it this.
Because they're not doing transactions of any ISK at all. It's basically equivalent to offering a discount on bulk orders. Are you suggesting that ETC retailers not be allowed to offer discounts?
Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Thead Enco
Radio New Vegas
190
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:18:00 -
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Clanggedin Silverbeard wrote:I WANT MY TOKENS BACK, its both of your fault CCP and SOMER, i spent 49 bil to make tokens for this celebration (wich now should go in plain air???). you favored somer CCP so now its time to make it all right. same as character scamming perhaps?
Whelp......
-á"A Lannister always pays his debts."
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