So, you are all ganging up on Somer, nowhere do I see Eve-bet or Iwantisk.com mentioned. So many people are going to be affected by this witch hunt, Somer sponsors many groups with both isk and items.
I don't believe that thousands of $ are being made as mentioned, personally I don't have a problem with a few bucks to pay expenses being made. Isn't the real world full of enough haters for you, can't you leave it out of our games.
I joined Eve to have fun and get away from real life problems for a couple of hours a day, so thanks for merging the two worlds so very successfully. Bravo haters of the world.

"Blink provides no extra ISK or bonus Blink credit for buying through the link"

But they are doing exactly that. So It's blink that have broken the agreement already and should be in trouble

They aren't being mentioned because they aren't engaging in RMT. Our issue isn't with running an eve gambling site, it's with them running an RMT scheme to run it as a business. I joined EVE for entertainment, and I'd like to continue being entertained, not watch the game go down the pan from RMTers wrecking it to make some quick cash. Somer clearly doesn't give a crap about the game, just about their bottom line, so CCP should smash that banhammer down with full force and be done with them.

Thanks for the update Falcon, I will be extremely displeased if this gets swept under the carpet like CCP has a tendency to do.

I do hope that people aren't crucifying you and the other devs for what seems to be an idiotic move from Sales/Legal.

Dude, As much as I agree with what you are saying and would love Somer to get permanently banned and every single isk in any wallet he has access to removed if CCP have legally agreed this with him then they might not be able to do anything.

I have have always said nothing CCP does surprises me anymore.. boy was I wrong lol

Out of curiosity.



After all, as the queen once said . . . `Sentence first--verdict afterwards.'

I am not apologizing for CCP, just reminding some that this is not an instantaneous kind of thing. But some of you want to skip sentence, verdict, and leap straight to the execution(s) so anything I say to delay that must be stonewalling and sucking up to my masters.

Trust me, neither CSM nor CCP is sitting back waiting for this to 'blow over'.

Except for Chribba's brief remarks, I see that most web hosts are strangely quiet on this. And for good reason.

If the more mouth frothing anger management deficient among you get your way and CCP decides you are right that any income is RMT, say goodbye to your kill boards, news sites, blogs, market sites and character sheets. Anything that relies on click-throughs and affiliates to cover hosting costs. Be careful what you wish for, people. You might just get it.

Mr Epeen

Out of curiosity.

For all you folks gathering the pitchforks and torches and learning to tie ropes into nooses. Do you expect a single or mass execution? Just Somer or Somer and staff or Somer staff and anybody who has ever done business with them?

damn, that includes me.

Or if you are heading the mob towards CCP are you looking for the one person mentioned in the 'email leak' or their entire staff or (as some of you love to ask for) the entire senior management team of CCP for allowing this to take place? Community and CSM thrown in for good measure, no doubt.

damn I made the list again

How much blood, how many bodies do you need to satisfy your craving for justice?

After all, as the queen once said . . . `Sentence first--verdict afterwards.'

I am not apologizing for CCP, just reminding some that this is not an instantaneous kind of thing. But some of you want to skip sentence, verdict, and leap straight to the execution(s) so anything I say to delay that must be stonewalling and sucking up to my masters.

I just want to hear from the real people, the people who involved that to explain what really happened. From The decision makers. Not from the people that just learned this 24 hour ago.

There are people out there really know whats happenning in CCP. I want them to go out public and explain to me that, why some pople are treated differently than the others in this game when it comes to EULA? As legally both me and somer are subcribers. So both are bound to the EULA rules.

Out of curiosity.

For all you folks gathering the pitchforks and torches and learning to tie ropes into nooses. Do you expect a single or mass execution? Just Somer or Somer and staff or Somer staff and anybody who has ever done business with them?

damn, that includes me.

Or if you are heading the mob towards CCP are you looking for the one person mentioned in the 'email leak' or their entire staff or (as some of you love to ask for) the entire senior management team of CCP for allowing this to take place? Community and CSM thrown in for good measure, no doubt.

damn I made the list again

How much blood, how many bodies do you need to satisfy your craving for justice?

After all, as the queen once said . . . `Sentence first--verdict afterwards.'

I am not apologizing for CCP, just reminding some that this is not an instantaneous kind of thing. But some of you want to skip sentence, verdict, and leap straight to the execution(s) so anything I say to delay that must be stonewalling and sucking up to my masters.

Out of curiosity.

For all you folks gathering the pitchforks and torches and learning to tie ropes into nooses. Do you expect a single or mass execution? Just Somer or Somer and staff or Somer staff and anybody who has ever done business with them?

damn, that includes me.

Or if you are heading the mob towards CCP are you looking for the one person mentioned in the 'email leak' or their entire staff or (as some of you love to ask for) the entire senior management team of CCP for allowing this to take place? Community and CSM thrown in for good measure, no doubt.

damn I made the list again

How much blood, how many bodies do you need to satisfy your craving for justice?

After all, as the queen once said . . . `Sentence first--verdict afterwards.'

I am not apologizing for CCP, just reminding some that this is not an instantaneous kind of thing. But some of you want to skip sentence, verdict, and leap straight to the execution(s) so anything I say to delay that must be stonewalling and sucking up to my masters.

"Blink provides no extra ISK or bonus Blink credit for buying through the link" Correct, they don't. They are using the fact that they agreed no set price for what they would pay for plex as a way to make this work

Having said that; we'd all be a helluvah lot less testy if we weren't addressing the issue of RMT and/or favortism in relation to the same organisation not even 18 months after the first incident.

For all you folks gathering the pitchforks and torches and learning to tie ropes into nooses. Do you expect a single or mass execution?

Dude, As much as I agree with what you are saying and would love Somer to get permanently banned and every single isk in any wallet he has access to removed if CCP have legally agreed this with him then they might not be able to do anything.

I have have always said nothing CCP does surprises me anymore.. boy was I wrong lol

Since people love to gamble, CCP should just make an in-game lottery system.

Letting a third-party manage so many trillions of ISK - and so many PLEX sales - is unhealthy for their business.


EDIT:Great minds think alike. +1

Calm yourself.

You know how this sort of thing goes. Momentum is what it is. Some people love a good witch hunt.

Having said that; we'd all be a helluvah lot less testy if we weren't addressing the issue of RMT and/or favortism in relation to the same organisation not even 18 months after the first incident. The fact that we are even having the conversation again says that the matter wasn't solved properly the first time.

Confidence in CCP has been damaged because of it. I hope they get it right this time, and set an appropriate precedent that we can feel confident in.

I totaly agree

if they did the somer thing them self it is a very good way to make an isk sink and take extra isk out of the game.

Dude, As much as I agree with what you are saying and would love Somer to get permanently banned and every single isk in any wallet he has access to removed if CCP have legally agreed this with him then they might not be able to do anything.

I have have always said nothing CCP does surprises me anymore.. boy was I wrong lol

lack of creative vision and fashion sense. I'm taking bets on what percentage of monument shooters still wear cargo pants.

To add to this.

if ccp did this iam pretty sure a lot more people would run with it. Becasue they would trust that it is fair.

atm a lot of people dontplay somer becasue they dont trust it with shill accounts and all that jaz.

ccp running the show with transparancy it could be a great way for them to remove isk from the game in a steady and controlled and Honest way.

They could even use said isk to fund ingame events. instead of spawning supers and titains for events they could just buy them keeping the isk flowing in game and keeping titans off the market