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Ploing Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 64	Posted - 2016.05.20 19:21:24 - [1141] - Quote Kolmogorow wrote: Thanks! I think I'll give that a try. Maybe I watch the Team Burner velocities on the overview a bit to see how fast they actually are and then decide if I can risk an AB. Better to start with a safer setup... the jag speeds up to ~ 1100 ms. so with a deadspace ab you should be save, but with a mwd you are faster in range and at the wreck.
Varde Nor Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.06.28 20:09:22 - [1142] - Quote use hookbill instead of garmur [Caldari Navy Hookbill, SOLO***Burner MWD Kite ] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System 5MN Digital Booster Microwarpdrive Cap Recharger II Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I Small Bay Loading Accelerator I [empty rig slot] 3172 m/s, 224 dps and it's cap stable. targeting 56k missiles go 47.5. works well with Torondir's kitsune or with griffin navy. in either case, jammed logi will let you run it very fast
Ploing Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 64	Posted - 2016.06.28 23:48:15 - [1143] - Quote Varde Nor wrote: use hookbill instead of garmur [Caldari Navy Hookbill, SOLO***Burner MWD Kite ] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System 5MN Digital Booster Microwarpdrive Cap Recharger II Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I Small Bay Loading Accelerator I [empty rig slot] 3172 m/s, 224 dps and it's cap stable. targeting 56k missiles go 47.5. works well with Torondir's kitsune or with griffin navy. in either case, jammed logi will let you run it very fast this bill has way less perfomance as a similar pricetagged garmur and is only usefull with kinetic.
Toddle Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.06.30 01:32:27 - [1144] - Quote Fair warning something is up with Worm burner. It's actually easier now, missiles volleying my fit (90kin resist) for 170dmg whereas prepatch they would do ~250dmg Maybe something to do with the changes to missile damage equation that went live yesterday. If it gets fixed and you've balanced your fit around current gimped damage output, might be expensive.
Ploing Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 64	Posted - 2016.06.30 18:48:29 - [1145] - Quote Toddle wrote: Fair warning something is up with Worm burner. It's actually easier now, missiles volleying my fit (90kin resist) for 170dmg whereas prepatch they would do ~250dmg Maybe something to do with the changes to missile damage equation that went live yesterday. If it gets fixed and you've balanced your fit around current gimped damage output, might be expensive. what did you use?
Toddle Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.06.30 22:01:50 - [1146] - Quote Just did it again and volleys 30 (approach) to max 177 dmg depending on my velocity. Average was about 140dmg. I've done worm burner about 30 times with this fit, once i get it tackled volleys would do ~250dmg pre 118.6 patch. Much, much, much more sensitive to velocity it would seem. [Succubus, Succubus] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Mark I Compact Capacitor Flux Coil Coreli A-Type 5MN Microwarpdrive Warp Scrambler II Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster Pith X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field Small Focused Pulse Laser II [Empty High slot] Small Focused Pulse Laser II Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II Nanite Repair Paste x60 Conflagration S x2 Imperial Navy Multifrequency S x2
ru-eve com 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.07.07 14:41:28 - [1147] - Quote Did they change Ashimmu burner over DT? https://zkillboard.com/kill/54980321/ Died in this yesterday, was my fault - didnt overheat launchers and shield compensation skills were 0. Left ashimmu only with 5% structure. Bought a same new one gila and killed him. Now with all compensations 4...I died in 40 seconds! https://zkillboard.com/kill/54988235/ Killed only 1 sentinel. Did they increase DPS overnight or what? I nearly broke my notebook in half when my shield jumped from 50% to 0% in like no time. Damn CCP!
Ploing Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 64	Posted - 2016.07.07 23:08:46 - [1148] - Quote ru-eve com wrote: Did they change Ashimmu burner over DT? https://zkillboard.com/kill/54980321/ Died in this yesterday, was my fault - didnt overheat launchers and shield compensation skills were 0. Left ashimmu only with 5% structure. Bought a same new one gila and killed him. Now with all compensations 4...I died in 40 seconds! https://zkillboard.com/kill/54988235/ Killed only 1 sentinel. Did they increase DPS overnight or what? I nearly broke my notebook in half when my shield jumped from 50% to 0% in like no time. Damn CCP! edit: bought a new one. Warped in, burner+team @ 5km. Literally shield didnt even go lower than 90%. What the hell is wrong with these burners? did you make a bug report and mentioned to this tread ? if so ccp lebowski will hopefully show up here. but when its only you with the prob it will be not. you can do this also in cerb, orth and an onyx which i preffer. [Onyx, Burner ashimmu test] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 Shield Boost Amplifier II Pithum B-Type EM Ward Amplifier Pithum B-Type EM Ward Amplifier Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile Small Tractor Beam II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Medium Warhead Calefaction Catalyst II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II disable tractor beam for all v. oh launcher for the first sentinel.
ru-eve com 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.07.08 06:59:47 - [1149] - Quote Ploing wrote: ru-eve com wrote: Did they change Ashimmu burner over DT? https://zkillboard.com/kill/54980321/ Died in this yesterday, was my fault - didnt overheat launchers and shield compensation skills were 0. Left ashimmu only with 5% structure. Bought a same new one gila and killed him. Now with all compensations 4...I died in 40 seconds! https://zkillboard.com/kill/54988235/ Killed only 1 sentinel. Did they increase DPS overnight or what? I nearly broke my notebook in half when my shield jumped from 50% to 0% in like no time. Damn CCP! edit: bought a new one. Warped in, burner+team @ 5km. Literally shield didnt even go lower than 90%. What the hell is wrong with these burners? did you make a bug report and mentioned to this tread ? if so ccp lebowski will hopefully show up here. but when its only you with the prob it will be not. you can do this also in cerb, orth and an onyx which i preffer. [Onyx, Burner ashimmu test] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 Shield Boost Amplifier II Pithum B-Type EM Ward Amplifier Pithum B-Type EM Ward Amplifier Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile Small Tractor Beam II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Medium Warhead Calefaction Catalyst II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II disable tractor beam for all v. oh launcher for the first sentinel. I tend to outrage first, so not a single bug report was made Thing is - drone aggro. Burner or sentinels didn't aggro on drones at all that time, I can clearly see it from logs. So yeah, it was just a small chance, just a game of ~~korean~~ icelandic random Thanks for the fit, but I dont have much SP nowadays, already used a few injectors to blitz lvl 4s, and like 10 of them to run burners. Not out of money, thou already have a negative farming balance of 8b, so no Onyx for me yet
Varde Nor Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.07.08 15:14:00 - [1150] - Quote Ploing wrote: Varde Nor wrote: use hookbill instead of garmur [Caldari Navy Hookbill, SOLO***Burner MWD Kite ] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System 5MN Digital Booster Microwarpdrive Cap Recharger II Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I Small Bay Loading Accelerator I [empty rig slot] 3172 m/s, 224 dps and it's cap stable. targeting 56k missiles go 47.5. works well with Torondir's kitsune or with griffin navy. in either case, jammed logi will let you run it very fast this bill has way less perfomance as a similar pricetagged garmur and is only usefull with kinetic. What do you mean by performance? DPS is higher, roughly equal using other missiles. Both are plenty fast. Price wise, you can lose a little dps and go meta 4 TPs. remember all damage types get a significant bonus, kinetic just gets more. even meta 4, the third TP over your average garmur is going to help.
Ploing Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 64	Posted - 2016.07.08 15:54:29 - [1151] - Quote Varde Nor wrote: Ploing wrote: Varde Nor wrote: use hookbill instead of garmur [Caldari Navy Hookbill, SOLO***Burner MWD Kite ] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System 5MN Digital Booster Microwarpdrive Cap Recharger II Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I Small Bay Loading Accelerator I [empty rig slot] 3172 m/s, 224 dps and it's cap stable. targeting 56k missiles go 47.5. works well with Torondir's kitsune or with griffin navy. in either case, jammed logi will let you run it very fast this bill has way less perfomance as a similar pricetagged garmur and is only usefull with kinetic. What do you mean by performance? DPS is higher, roughly equal using other missiles. Both are plenty fast. Price wise, you can lose a little dps and go meta 4 TPs. remember all damage types get a significant bonus, kinetic just gets more. even meta 4, the third TP over your average garmur is going to help.
Ploing Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 64	Posted - 2016.07.08 16:03:54 - [1152] - Quote Ploing wrote: Varde Nor wrote: Ploing wrote: [quote=Varde Nor]use hookbill instead of garmur [Caldari Navy Hookbill, SOLO***Burner MWD Kite ] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System 5MN Digital Booster Microwarpdrive Cap Recharger II Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Domination Target Painter Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I Small Bay Loading Accelerator I [empty rig slot] 3172 m/s, 224 dps and it's cap stable. targeting 56k missiles go 47.5. works well with Torondir's kitsune or with griffin navy. in either case, jammed logi will let you run it very fast this bill has way less perfomance as a similar pricetagged garmur and is only usefull with kinetic. What do you mean by performance? DPS is higher, roughly equal using other missiles. Both are plenty fast. Price wise, you can lose a little dps and go meta 4 TPs. remember all damage types get a significant bonus, kinetic just gets more. even meta 4, the third TP over your average garmur is going to help. dps is higher with scourge, but a garmur does more dameage on every type . the polasized gamrur dit way more than 300 dps on each burner and thats before a ewar frig is come into mind.
Xolerick Xolera treatment corp. 1	Posted - 2016.08.20 11:00:24 - [1153] - Quote Just a new fit for Supercarier Burner Mission - Guristas Base. It might be a bit expsnsive but me doing anomic mission farming I prefer 100% safe and effective then loose at least 1 ship and had to refit or run for a spare. So I just finished that mission perfectly safe! Never was lower then 50% shields. In Gila fitted. The idea is u can just fly in straight line and play with your Shield booster. Web + Drones + Missiles dragonfly dead. Mantis at one time I forgot to switch on my Shield boost and got into armor just overheated the invul + SB and back to 100% shields =) So perfectly safe and nice [Gila, Guristas Anomic Base] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Ballistic Control System II Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II Medium Capacitor Booster II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Hammerhead II x5 Scourge Precision Light Missile x1412 Navy Cap Booster 400 x20n++
Nya Kittenheart Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 27	Posted - 2016.08.20 11:34:29 - [1154] - Quote Xolerick wrote: So I just finished that mission perfectly safe! Never was lower then 50% shields. In Gila fitted. The idea is u can just fly in straight line and play with your Shield booster. Web + Drones + Missiles dragonfly dead. Mantis at one time I forgot to switch on my Shield boost and got into armor just overheated the invul + SB and back to 100% shields =) So perfectly safe and nice n++ Time for completion of the mission please ?.Because honnestly i really wish CCP remove that mission and replace it with a proper gurista anomic base.
Xolerick Xolera treatment corp. 1	Posted - 2016.08.20 13:23:28 - [1155] - Quote Quote: Time for completion of the mission please ?.Because honnestly i really wish CCP remove that mission and replace it with a proper gurista anomic base. Hm... I would lie if I told you I remember =( But one thing is I hit a downtime warning timer and was in time so it was under 15 minutes not including travel. Which is fair enough. And 7.5 + 6 Mil of bounties + mission reward and sweet LP. I will time it next time I get it promise =)
Fade Azura Logistics and Salvage Express Services 166	Posted - 2016.09.01 17:05:21 - [1156] - Quote ive been doing the team burner missions in a non blinged ECM worm in about 5 minutes solo for each team burner [Worm, Drone burner team worm] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II 1MN Afterburner II CZ-4 Compact Gravimetric ECM CZ-4 Compact Gravimetric ECM CZ-4 Compact Gravimetric ECM Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Hobgoblin II x2 270 dps and 1200+ ms cold use mission specific damage types(drones and Missiles) and ECM as soon as you land on the mission turn around and kite them at 25-30km. can usually jam the dps burner in a few cycle of ECM after that he will run away from you and his logi ... and u can go after 1 of the logi follwing you and jam the other logi you can burn the logi down 1 at a time fairly quickly and then just orbit the dps burner at 30km and use drones when u get a jam .. i can do all the team burners like this in an alt with less then perfect skills and rarely lose a drone. if you get some good jams you can do it probably faster then the 300 dps bling garmur (due to jamming the logi reps)
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12920	Posted - 2016.09.01 17:46:30 - [1157] - Quote just stick to the Garmur fits - while the ECM fits are clever, it's just simply quicker and safer to stick with the Garmurs. Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
Bagatur I GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 73	Posted - 2016.09.07 12:45:00 - [1158] - Quote I know this is a thread for soloing missions, but I couldnt find anything good for running anomic agents with an alt. what is the best role for an low-skilled alt for running anomic agent missions? additional firepower is kind of out of question due to low SP. would it be a remote repper or a jammer?
Tsukino Stareine Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found 1755	Posted - 2016.09.07 13:28:57 - [1159] - Quote You need to make sure the alt doesn't die so remote rep is probably a bad idea since it will be a slow logi frig. I would say a Griffin would be perfect, just orbit the one doing damage and jam all the things while keeping out of range
Bagatur I GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 73	Posted - 2016.09.08 10:05:33 - [1160] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: You need to make sure the alt doesn't die so remote rep is probably a bad idea since it will be a slow logi frig. I would say a Griffin would be perfect, just orbit the one doing damage and jam all the things while keeping out of range I never used remote reppers before. I didnt realize they have such a short optimal. Jammer it is then. Thanks for input
Althalus Stenory Flying Blacksmiths 84	Posted - 2016.10.16 13:16:55 - [1161] - Quote I've got a question: I tried the burner cruor with the wolf 2 times (with the recommended fit), but i was unable to break the cruor armor... [Wolf, .aa. Blood Raider] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer Coreli A-Type Thermal Plating Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I 200mm AutoCannon II 200mm AutoCannon II 200mm AutoCannon II 200mm AutoCannon II Small Anti-Thermal Pump II Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II Republic Fleet Fusion S x615 Navy Cap Booster 400 x2 I tried orbiting, slowboating away, keep at range, but nothing helps. I believe i'm doing something wrong, but i can't get what... I didn't even manage to go through even 10% of its armor... Any idea / advices ? Thanks !
John Henke Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 19	Posted - 2016.10.16 15:32:18 - [1162] - Quote Althalus Stenory wrote: ... I tried orbiting, slowboating away, keep at range, but nothing helps. I believe i'm doing something wrong, but i can't get what... I didn't even manage to go through even 10% of its armor... Any idea / advices ? Thanks ! The problem could be the Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier, which has a webbing strength of 55 %. You should try it with a Stasis Webifier II with 60 % webbing strength. I use a SAAR as armor repairer and a 400mm plate to get over the reload time. [Wolf, Burner Cruor] Gyrostabilizer II 400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Gyrostabilizer II Coreli A-Type Thermal Plating Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400 Stasis Webifier II 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S [empty high slot] 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S Small Projectile Collision Accelerator II Small Anti-Thermal Pump II Republic Fleet Fusion S x480 Navy Cap Booster 400 x11 Nanite Repair Paste x24
Ploing Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 64	Posted - 2016.10.17 00:35:38 - [1163] - Quote Althalus Stenory wrote: I didn't even manage to go through even 10% of its armor... what john said and maybe change a gyro for a tracking enhancer if you got too much missed shots. also try to get him into the structure is a good idea.
Althalus Stenory Flying Blacksmiths 84	Posted - 2016.10.17 09:06:44 - [1164] - Quote Ploing wrote: Althalus Stenory wrote: I didn't even manage to go through even 10% of its armor... what john said and maybe change a gyro for a tracking enhancer if you got too much missed shots. also try to get him into the structure is a good idea. Yep, I also though about this when I saw John's answers (also thanks to you) I'll try with a t2 web and a TE instead of one of the gyro next time, to see if it goes better :) Thanks
Artassaut Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2016.11.18 09:43:09 - [1165] - Quote So with Command Bursts effecting your own ship without needing a fleet, allowing you to essentially have a tank module in your high slot, has this allowed any of the Anomic Base burners to be more readily and easily done with a battlecruiser as opposed to a cruiser? I figure the Serpentis base is out of the question, which leaves the Angel and Blood base.
Anize Oramara The Arch Dashing Dashers 778	Posted - 2016.11.18 12:02:09 - [1166] - Quote Hmm interesting thought. Not so sure about Angel because even with 2 90% bonussed webs you still get quite a few low quality hits from the best tracking medium turreted weapons so Ideally you want 3 90% bonussed webs. Maybe drones + webs (a Myrm?) but the frigs absolutely demolish drones. Tanking isn't the issue in Angel Base since you can tank it in a T2 fit boat, it's application of damage more than anything else. Reward wise Blood Base has really fallen off and the cap drain is a huge problem regarding tanking. Except for the Gila (and even then it 'tanks' with it's drones) you need a T2 ship for resists because you can't maintain any kind of active resist tank. That said I haven't really looked at the burst module as I don't have those kinds of skills on this character so this is just some initial thoughts. A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.1
Artassaut Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2016.11.20 04:37:26 - [1167] - Quote For the Angel base: maybe using the faction battlecruisers with their 8 highslots to field 7 smartbombs, for those who want something a little safer to use than the Vigilant while being faster than the smartbomb Sacrilege. Looking back at the BCs, none of them get a bonus to RLMLs, so that throws my ideas for dealing with the Blood Burner out of the window, unless a HAM (Navy) Drake can apply (Or even hit them in the first place) enough damage to the small frigates to be worth a darn.
Mad Kosiarz PCG Enterprises 0	Posted - 2016.12.14 01:50:40 - [1168] - Quote Hey dudes I got the Anomic Agent mission with Succubus, I only just came back to EVE after nearly a year of not playing. And before that I wasn't doing any missions. Hope you guys can help me. I went through this thread, and found fit for pimped daredevil. I can tank the succubus no problem but I simply cannot get close enough to get in firing range. Since I didn't know this mission I lost 3 other frigates on this ;/ (not daredevils tho) My fit: [Daredevil, For Succubus ] Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer Corelum C-Type Energized EM Membrane Corelum C-Type Energized EM Membrane Capacitor Power Relay II Small Cap Battery II 1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner True Sansha Stasis Webifier Light Ion Blaster II Light Ion Blaster II Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II Small Nanobot Accelerator I Nanite Repair Paste x87 Void S x4546 After web, he orbits me at circa 850 m/s and I can get up to 650 m/s max. What am I doing wrong? I have most navigation skills on V Thanks for any advice!
Chainsaw Plankton Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 2339	Posted - 2016.12.14 02:02:18 - [1169] - Quote to start you are going to want a 60% web, the fed navy web is standard here. the 55% web makes it very hard to catch up to the burner, I remember it working but I was also using links at the time. You might need to upgrade the ab as well I use an a-type ab on my fit. is the 650m/s with or without heat? heat might let you catch it. @ChainsawPlankto
Mad Kosiarz PCG Enterprises 0	Posted - 2016.12.14 02:08:15 - [1170] - Quote Chainsaw Plankton wrote: to start you are going to want a 60% web, the fed navy web is standard here. the 55% web makes it very hard to catch up to the burner, I remember it working but I was also using links at the time. You might need to upgrade the ab as well I use an a-type ab on my fit. is the 650m/s with or without heat? heat might let you catch it. Hey thanks for quick reply, that is without heat. I tried to heat but it got half way damaged even before I closed in half way... If it comes to ab it seems I am missing some power for it, but I haven't looked that in depth really. Will have a look now [EDIT] Well to use Corelli A-Type AB I am missing 0.43 from power grid, :D will have to look at some implants!

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