Dear CCP fozzie,

I'll give a situation which u will solve for me ?

Assuming U own 5 poses in a system say in "Khanid" region say "Upt" which has no stations 3 jumps out . And u wanna do maintenance on ur pos .. fuel , taking moon goo etc ..

So u cyno in ur JF 150km from the tower cos i'm sure ur not gonna slow boat 25km in a Rhea into the shields.. u use an alt to deploy Cyno Jammer , Scan inhibitor yada yada yada .. U even use a Rapier to web ur JF to warp from 150km .

Le me scouting systems .. see u doing this i pass by .. i jus add u to watch list . 1 month later .. U do the same thing .. jus that i'll b having a 30 man ishtar fleet with 6 guardians cyoned in the adjacent system.. enuf to kill u b4 the pos guns even target us .. cos u cant call back up thru cyno ..cos ur own cyno jammer is up and running for good effect . Ur rapier is toast as well .

ur pos goes outta fuel soon cos ofc u cant fuel it buddy . Might as well write down ur pos to me . cos if u are gonna run 10 jumps to high sec in an iteron 5 with moon goo and fuel i'm gonna enjoy camping u .

CCP trolling on the little guys as usual .

guys who are about to face this situation - end subscription as soon as possible best solution there is .

or join a power block u'll eventually get there

Finally, a move towards putting risk and difficulty back into null sec logistics and fleet movement.

Jump freighter logistics and easy long distance movement of capital assets has been crippling the game for far too long.

An excellent first step, hopefully only the first of many.

Keep this up and our noble null sec players might actually start enjoying the game again, despite what they think at the moment.

Fozzie, a few issues this causes that should be considered.


POS attacking with Dreads - the use of short range guns just became less viable, unless you want to slowboat the distance required to get into or at least close to optimal.

Risk/Benefit of cyno beacons - you're greatly changing this ratio. This might be a good idea, but could lead to them being less likely to be used in favor of simply station cyno characters, and that would result in actually less conflict over all, as the risk would be lower then it is even now with cyno beacons.

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I understand the problem, but isn't this fix impacting a lot of things so solve one issue? It seems the goal here should be to solve the problem with as minimal impact to other parts of game play as possible.

right now i do it like : jump blind to the beacon (because who needs a scout) warp to my bookmark @ 100
after the patch i do it like : jump blind to the beacon (because who needs a scout) warp to my bookmark @ 100.

Can you find the difference? If yes then please let me know. im always open for new things

Anyone else sense the inspiration for clarion call v?

Cloaky dictor
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Please by all means stop posting my eyes are bleeding. However im a nice guy so i solve your pubbie problem.

throw away that cyno inhib and scan inhibitor no one needs that ****. Take a noobship fit a cyno and 2 webs. Make a bookmark 200 of one of you towers (you can literally make safespot anywhere in system and us that) . warp to bookmark light cyno Jump JF in fleetwarp JF to a POS @ 10 and web the freighter. that leaves anyone like 5 seconds (its actually less but who gives a ****) to catch your JF.

Just because you lost your illusion of safty because you can no longer light the cyno right next to the shields doesnt mean you were ever safe while doing so. So in the end what changes for you? Nothing..you might have to do some extra work, but if some work is to much for you. Then for the love of ******* god you should not run any towers anyways.

Yea i should have known better before posting something ironical here. But i will edit it to prevent further irritation.

However since you are busy with your feighter ops i could also just give no fucks and jump blind ;)

i still say there should be a standard ironic font.

the one thing i liked about the old system of frieghter ops was that the "big guys" would live closer to lowsec/hi sec and leave the deep space for us small guys... as you said who wants to go that many jumps amirite? now adays every 0.0 system can be reached with less risk then undocking from Jita.

plus you might poke fun at me but back in the day you constantly had stuff to do that was not just roams and strat ops.

by escorting the frighters you were being involved in helping your little empire grow. it meant something

i remember when everyone belt ratted and there were miners everywhere and vegabonds trying to kill everyone. it was fun saving your buddy from a rat or fight off with the kitchen sink in system from a roaming gang. it was a great time before SRP when loosing your domi meant something.

those times were great because you could have escalating pvp without the batphone...

Now, do the same for Titan Bridging...

You know you want too...

It'll instantly kill the Blue Doughnut!

It's only 12:42 PM. Learn 2 clock.

CCP screwed WH guys over and added basically same type of mechanic. About 3% of them liked it.
CCP does same thing to null.

THIS MUST BE CHANGED, WE MUST SAVE NULLSEC.

Fozzie, would you be so kind to comment on whether the NC. guys that have taken part in the killing of Graham Jackson's Avatar are going to be punished, now that the titan was restored and the exploit is being fixed?

So tell us what the conclusion was then.

Yea, except this change adds zero risk to the game, it in fact makes nullsec unironically safer, by creating a larger permanent cyno jamming effect around pos shields. The changes should be focused around the core issue, titan bump field mechanics, not poses or cynos.

Anyone who think this is a change that adds risk in the game, does not understand how to use a cyno beacon properly, if at all. I in fact will spell it out to you since you don't seem to understand.

Step 1, creat bookmark @ warp distance from the beacon, with your pos shield in the middle
Step 2: jump in cap
Step 3: warp to bookmark at range, land in pos shield

i still say there should be a standard ironic font.

the one thing i liked about the old system of frieghter ops was that the "big guys" would live closer to lowsec/hi sec and leave the deep space for us small guys... as you said who wants to go that many jumps amirite? now adays every 0.0 system can be reached with less risk then undocking from Jita.

plus you might poke fun at me but back in the day you constantly had stuff to do that was not just roams and strat ops.

by escorting the frighters you were being involved in helping your little empire grow. it meant something

i remember when everyone belt ratted and there were miners everywhere and vegabonds trying to kill everyone. it was fun saving your buddy from a rat or fight off with the kitchen sink in system from a roaming gang. it was a great time before SRP when loosing your domi meant something.

those times were great because you could have escalating pvp without the batphone...

Please explain yourself why this in any way stops me from moving my 250 man cap fleet from the North to the South just a second slower than i can now?

And while you are on it explain to me why Jump Freighter logistics (which you obviously never did) will be any harder now?

CCP screwed WH guys over and added basically same type of mechanic. About 3% of them liked it.
CCP does same thing to null.

THIS MUST BE CHANGED, WE MUST SAVE NULLSEC.

Any time you bring that fleet into a POS you're going to have to take an extra (unprotected) jump to get inside the POS shields, which adds a layer of vulnerability (albeit a small one).

As a small first step, it's a good one.... hopefully not the last one.

Good game play comes from activities being risky, not from activities being easy... and right now it is far too safe and easy to move a cap fleet (or jump freighter) anywhere you like.

For those that claim they never got a fight transporting goods back and forth to null in a freighter op either:
1: Never actually did one.
2: Did one or two, got bored halfway through and logged off (conveniently forgetting to mention that part).
3: Had opponents so wimpy at that time you wouldn't get a good fight no matter what you did.

Time to stop listening to your lazy industry pilots. If you want to have more fun, let CCP start interjecting some of the risk back into null sec daily activities.