That statement is not accurate. EVE developers are definitely permitted to play the game in any region on their personal accounts.

The idea that I cannot jump for a month at a time WILL make me unsub. I do not think this is an unrealistic response from any cap pilot. Limit this to a day or two at most, otherwise I see no point in continuing to subscribe a super pilot if I literally cannot play the game absent gates. (Which is NOT acceptable for a super) I guarantee you that you will lose enough subscriptions from super/titan pilots from this change that it will ultimately hurt the game much more then it will benefit it.

That statement is not accurate. EVE developers are definitely permitted to play the game in any region on their personal accounts.

Let me ask you something. If you drive 20 miles a day to work, and suddenly you can only drive to work 1 day a week, and have to ride a scooter the rest of the days (Because of your jump fatigue), are you going to work 20 miles away? No, you're going to get a new job right next door.

The idea that I cannot jump for a month at a time WILL make me unsub. I do not think this is an unrealistic response from any cap pilot. Limit this to a day or two at most, otherwise I see no point in continuing to subscribe a super pilot if I literally cannot play the game absent gates. (Which is NOT acceptable for a super) I guarantee you that you will lose enough subscriptions from super/titan pilots from this change that it will ultimately hurt the game much more then it will benefit it.

Man cannot count how many times similar statements have been made. May I please direct your attention to exhibit A:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_Online#Subscribers

Anyone who thinks these changes are being made without serious and rational forethought need to confirm that their IQ is above room temperature. Just like any other major change in EVE there will be growing pains, and iterations. No amount of QQ or subscription threats is going to change that. Instead, consider having a little faith that CCP has the health of the game and our best interests at heart. If it doesn't work out they'll fix it. If they really do make a mistake so terrible as to cause that graph to go down, then you can say "I told you so" afterward and rub it in all you want. Show some faith and have a mature conversation about the problem.

P.S. The tiny dip in that graph was Incarna. If you know anything about Incarna you know much people hated it. People still came back.

That statement is not accurate. EVE developers are definitely permitted to play the game in any region on their personal accounts.

Let me ask you something. If you drive 20 miles a day to work, and suddenly you can only drive to work 1 day a week, and have to ride a scooter the rest of the days (Because of your jump fatigue), are you going to work 20 miles away? No, you're going to get a new job right next door.

When your job is running logistics for an alliance, that means the alliance is screwed completely.

Don't forget... everyone here is a player of a game. When an activity isn't fun anymore, it's not going to get done. Why - after Seagull got up and said she wanted to help the content enablers - are they destroying the ability of dedicated logistics players (supplying null alliances) to do what they do?

"But they can always take gates!" No, that only works if the chance of being ganked is 1% or so. When it's about 50% (as it would be on EVERY pipeline to null), those players will simply stop doing it.

Fun fact: we have more than enough capital pilots to do that with these changes - and now that we'll be able to take gates with those capitals, we can move them around w/out your cyno-watchers' knowledge.

Here is your content enabler. Form a fleet and escort a freighter.

Hmm interesting. I was pretty sure a dev said that on Reddit. Thanks for the correction.

Now I'm back wondering about the "things"

This isn't such a change that it's going to be prohibit people playing the game. Again, the tears and the melodrama.

Most of black/red frog services are to low sec anyways. What you'll see is the other major trade hubs outside of jita open up more, that's about it (and yay, also good for the game)



Yes, you name it and I've done it.

What you're bitching about is doing it at a massive scale and across a massive distance. And that's what you don't get.

For once they recognized one of the more terrible abilities in this game and what's preventing a good regional environment. Who says YOU SHOULD BE ABLE to do such a thing quickly and easily, if at all.

These changes are most certainly going to be followed up with those to make null more self-sustaining. That's blatantly obvious.

Black frog will die, people will stop playing entirely and the sky will fall.
Write it down on a piece of paper so in 6 months you can read about how completely over the top and wrong you were here today.

Let me ask you something. If you drive 20 miles a day to work, and suddenly you can only drive to work 1 day a week, and have to ride a scooter the rest of the days (Because of your jump fatigue), are you going to work 20 miles away? No, you're going to get a new job right next door.

The fact that you don't understand why that's not tenable long-term is the same reason why I'm not going to argue with you about it.

If I know what statement you are talking about.. was about devs not being allowed to be inthe LEADERSHIP of alliances

Jsut stop thinkignyou can live in 0.0 and playing alone.

Peopel did that for YEARS before JF appeared. IT is sustainable. You just need a dozen peopel REALLY logged in and not on jabber waiting a ping. You know.. REALLY playing the game.

If I know what statement you are talking about.. was about devs not being allowed to be inthe LEADERSHIP of alliances

Funny... I thought we wanted a null-sec that allowed us to play a variety of playstyles.

If CCP wants us to play the game only one way, then dictate it and do away with the fiction of a sandbox.

Have you ever done a logistics run? Back and forth in a jump freighter can be 12 jumps. That's no longer possible. I don't care a bit about combat capitals jumping - I actually like that. It's the non-combat capital jumps that cause this thing to be ill-thought out and the consequence of a drunken brainstorming session, not a measured mechanic change.

Massing all your capitals in one system becomes a fairly major strategic decision after these changes; if they're there, they're not somewhere else.

The fact that you don't understand why that's not tenable long-term is the same reason why I'm not going to argue with you about it.

Yeah so to fuel the PL renter program and just keep it MAINTAINED we have to do freighter ops where we get 10+ freighters to help maintain our renters. This is not to establish it. Saying "form an escort yo" is just not realistic when forming nullsec infrastructure requires such a massive m3 of hauling for people who want to pvp and not spend their free time escorting haulers.

Let me ask you something. If you drive 20 miles a day to work, and suddenly you can only drive to work 1 day a week, and have to ride a scooter the rest of the days (Because of your jump fatigue), are you going to work 20 miles away? No, you're going to get a new job right next door.

Actually, I use a car pool, so I can work 20 miles away and still only drive 1 day per week. This saves on my RL traffic fatigue, saves a lot of RL money on RL fuel costs, and I get a discount on my RL car insurance.

There is a rational solution to most problems, in game and out of game, without resorting to whining and temper tantrums.

I disagree. Isk is not a valid mechanism for balancing things, not for large scale issues. We've seen time and time again that the top groups will find a way to work around such limitations, in ways and with a speed CCP cannot predict.

Time and effort are the only things that work as limiting factors in a game like this.

Depends a lot on the job, how much it pays, and how satisfying I find the work to be. Of course, I already live in a high traffic commuting area and have to deal with long commutes as it is - so I suppose I'm just a bigger harder man than others.

Peopel did that for YEARS before JF appeared. IT is sustainable. You just need a dozen peopel REALLY logged in and not on jabber waiting a ping. You know.. REALLY playing the game.