Omg the tears...

Do you people even read the OP?? You'd think they just deleted jump drives

Wait out your timer.
Save your melodrama.

An entire year's cooldown on something that you might definitely need more often than that in a big war. Not cool IMO.

What about: if you've been stuck in a station (i.e. haven't docked anywhere else or left the system) for some number of days, perhaps 5 or 7, you have the option to move your medical clone to your highsec NPC station of origin from whence you first entered the game.

I'm going to make one post, with the hope that the devs are still reading this thread. I'm gonna say this once.

Nerfing capitals into the ground is one thing (and that's what you're doing). I'm fine with that. But this is draconian.

More importantly, you're also obliterating so much more that relies on jump bridges, jump engines, and high-volume movement.

What happened to CCP Seagull saying, "We want to support content enablers!" (those who handle logistics, fuel, etc. that allow others to enjoy their gameplay)? With these changes, you've basically put your arm around them, cuddled them gently, then threw them to the ground and curbstomped them until they had a mouthful of broken teeth and bloody gums.

So what you are saying is that "new" players already have carriers, well surprise: they are likely not new!
There are still so much ways to work around that and be good at logistics, one example: WH!

Your statement is true only if demand is inelastic, but it's not. No one is forcing people to play Eve. No one is forcing players to use certain ships or fly in certain areas. When you make logistics and resupplying too difficult, you don't see increased costs, you see demand go away as people screw off and do something else.

I was just asking about you, whether you had weighed in. I am only haldway through the threadnaught (reading everything takes time)

Glad to see you are here and happy/satisfied.

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Yup, that's one of the goals. It was great for us publicity-wise, but we feel the paradigm of "no cap fights unless they're guaranteed to hit 10% TiDi" is bad for you guys.

Here is your content enabler. Form a fleet and escort a freighter.

Hi. There's these things called stargates. Any ship of any size can use them now, in low and null security space.

You should look into the implications of that.

P.S. Hint - this means securing your lines of communication and not relying on mass teleportation for fleet mobility.

P.P.S. Pro Tip - HTFU.

Edit: a word.

playing eve for abt 5 years now... i think its a good time to look for something else .. may be take out that cute girl next door is a good idea..
good bye EVE

Here is your content enabler. Form a fleet and escort a freighter.

The idea that I cannot jump for a month at a time WILL make me unsub. I do not think this is an unrealistic response from any cap pilot. Limit this to a day or two at most, otherwise I see no point in continuing to subscribe a super pilot if I literally cannot play the game absent gates. (Which is NOT acceptable for a super) I guarantee you that you will lose enough subscriptions from super/titan pilots from this change that it will ultimately hurt the game much more then it will benefit it.

The idea that I cannot jump for a month at a time WILL make me unsub. I do not think this is an unrealistic response from any cap pilot. Limit this to a day or two at most, otherwise I see no point in continuing to subscribe a super pilot if I literally cannot play the game absent gates. (Which is NOT acceptable for a super) I guarantee you that you will lose enough subscriptions from super/titan pilots from this change that it will ultimately hurt the game much more then it will benefit it.

Here is your content enabler. Form a fleet and escort a freighter.

You WILL loose at least 30% of the Playerbase.

Yes, but unfortunately the 'weight' that will be shed will be the playerbase as they 'move on' to other games.

We don't need the alliance leaders to work this out, the line members can see where it's going. It's going to be more 'work' and less fun. All these clever pubbies claiming Goon/NC/PL tears just cant see it, if you make the game harder for the large groups in this way you make it 5x as hard for the small groups.

Lets take an example that most are familiar with Goonswarm in Deklein vs Mordus Angels in Pure Blind.

After this patch hits MoA are going to get stomped, hard and repeatedly. There will be 1000's of Goons back in their home region because they won't want to get stranded more than 10LY away from home. They will go after the only 'content' that is available, the closest alliance that is hostile to them, the only targets they can actually attack. Goons already have a thriving market in Dek, since the industry changes they have loads of industry happening there too. They have masses of players they have local supplies and they have really nothing else to do.

MoA on the other hand have far fewer players, sod all industry and rely on importing to supply their gameplay and running missions to keep the Isk coming in. They will literally run out of ships to fight in, and situations similar to this will play out all across nullsec.

No one will be invading Goons, no one will be invading NC., if people thought their space was untouchable before then it is 5x as secure after these changes. This is a nerf that will hit the coalitions hard for sure, but it will smack the smaller groups much, much harder.

playing eve for abt 5 years now... i think its a good time to look for something else .. may be take out that cute girl next door is a good idea..
good bye EVE

The idea that I cannot jump for a month at a time WILL make me unsub. I do not think this is an unrealistic response from any cap pilot. Limit this to a day or two at most, otherwise I see no point in continuing to subscribe a super pilot if I literally cannot play the game absent gates. (Which is NOT acceptable for a super) I guarantee you that you will lose enough subscriptions from super/titan pilots from this change that it will ultimately hurt the game much more then it will benefit it.

I didn't find out until just last week that they weren't allowed to be in null sec. That was a shocker, but did explain a few things.

Your statement is true only if demand is inelastic, but it's not. No one is forcing people to play Eve. No one is forcing players to use certain ships or fly in certain areas. When you make logistics and resupplying too difficult, you don't see increased costs, you see demand go away as people screw off and do something else.

This is an easy solution that doesn't actually solve anything. Fix the damn sov code, don't nerf things that have second-, third- and fourth-order consequences that will screw up the game.

After two years of players saying, "this is going to hell, here's how" and CCP doing nothing, they no longer have the goodwill and time to do something like this. Exempt jump freighters and find a way to move subcaps more easily (subcap blobs aren't as big of an issue, and can be countered, unlike super blobs), or this move is a catastrophe.

Have you ever done a logistics run? Back and forth in a jump freighter can be 12 jumps. That's no longer possible. I don't care a bit about combat capitals jumping - I actually like that. It's the non-combat capital jumps that cause this thing to be ill-thought out and the consequence of a drunken brainstorming session, not a measured mechanic change.

This however is the point of the new release cycle. It means that a team that did a feature can follow it and make changes based on what they are seeing. We JUST had them do another pass over the ceptors because they needed some tweeking, they also revisted the nestor rescently as well and made a few minor adjustments there. In addition we should see a second pass of industry soon with the invention and RE changes, as well as a few other things that have been revised. The old 6 month cycle made doing a second pass extremely difficult, in theory the new cycle makes doing a second or more pass very easy. I am quite happy with CCP's direction atm.

The CFC has more than enough cyno alts to continue to hot drop the entire galaxy unless you make it ridiculous like 1 ship per cyno or something crazy like that.

People moved equipment before jump freighters existed.