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Ris Dnalor Fleet of Doom Ushra'Khan 66	Posted - 2011.11.30 06:10:00 - [331] - Quote Eben Harper wrote: I for one like the new font, thank you CCP. yea, thank them for pleasing you and a few others, but completely disregarding the folks that don't want the change. Thank em for CQ without ship-spin and MONOCLES as well while you're at it, because that cost them revenue, and forced them to lay off people, which ultimately led to less dev dollars for DUST and WOD mmo which could've solidified their income base even more, making eve better and better funded. yea thank em for the short-sightedness that'll ultimately cause them to force you to go play another game when they break what YOU love and tell you to **** off when you complain.
Ris Dnalor Fleet of Doom Ushra'Khan 66	Posted - 2011.11.30 06:12:00 - [332] - Quote Kasha Belle wrote: XavierVE wrote: I complained earlier, but then I turned down the UI scaling to 90% and decreased the font size by one in every chat window. Now it's pretty awesome, actually. 90% scaled UI + font size -1 = sweet spot. Your Ipad?? Mobile Phone?? 25000 seat multiplex?? plain old PC?? Ris Dnalor stop it!!! ;(
Ris Dnalor Fleet of Doom Ushra'Khan 66	Posted - 2011.11.30 06:13:00 - [333] - Quote Amber Green Thorn wrote: Ris Dnalor - give us a break purlease. I'm just reading every post and responding... doing my part. sigh ok, i'll give it a rest --- but i'll be back
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 1766	Posted - 2011.11.30 06:16:00 - [334] - Quote Crosi Wesdo wrote: I had no readability issues with the old font... so why did you? Possibly because I read the text and noticed the lack of distinction between many of the glyphs. Quote: Ill be happier with 90% if it didnt scale the icons on the overview and in space. GÇªwhich once again hints at scaling being the issue (or the granularity of it), not the font. Quote: This will not fix the abhorrent font itself And I once again have to ask: what's so abhorrent about the font? GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Crosi Wesdo Spiritus Draconis 55	Posted - 2011.11.30 06:29:00 - [335] - Quote Tippia wrote: Possibly because I read the text and noticed the lack of distinction between many of the glyphs. I just read the text. With no problem. Never a miscommunication so to speak. Tippia wrote: GÇªwhich once again hints at scaling being the issue (or the granularity of it), not the font. No, there is NO NEED to scale icons. Doing so will inevitably result in scaling artefacts. Redrawing them for a scaled down UI would be the only realistic option. Tippia wrote: And I once again have to ask: what's so abhorrent about the font? Well, basically, its just not as nice as the old one. Looks cluttered on screen. I liked the order of the upper-case in the tabs too, and contrary to what you may believe i had no issues reading it lol.
Grey Stormshadow Starwreck Industries 438	Posted - 2011.11.30 06:33:00 - [336] - Quote It seems that we have also fixed width numbers now and the chat's pilot list font is smaller by the default. Not sure were these in initial crucible version or not... at least they have been recently fixed. Getting better every day - thank you. Classic forum style - Images and colored text - Custom CQ videos
Kordoc Death Metal Rooster 10	Posted - 2011.11.30 06:43:00 - [337] - Quote Crybabies. Go shoot a statue.
Zarutha The Night Crew The Night Crew Alliance 32	Posted - 2011.11.30 06:46:00 - [338] - Quote Up with old font! Down with pants!
Phoebus Raszamar Valkyria Epsilon 11	Posted - 2011.11.30 07:03:00 - [339] - Quote Ris Dnalor wrote: Amber Green Thorn wrote: Ris Dnalor - give us a break purlease. I'm just reading every post and responding... doing my part. sigh ok, i'll give it a rest --- but i'll be back Salutes Funny thread. One thing that intimidates me is not being able to understand what I should be able to understand - or at least, people telling me what I can or cannot understand.*
William Loire Dragon Interdiction Services 20	Posted - 2011.11.30 07:05:00 - [340] - Quote I'm simply wondering why the old font couldn't have been modified for clarity rather than simply turning the entire thing into Comic Sans MS?

Lina Miaoke Celestial Mayhem 6	Posted - 2011.11.30 07:10:00 - [341] - Quote Give CCP a break... We bitched and demanded no Pay to Win items... So instead of Pay to Win items on the NEX market, we are to buy fonts packs for 5,000 to 10,000 AUR depending on the quality of font. This is reasonable, as it is still cheaper than CCP Soundwave's pant.
thoth rothschild First Aid Emergency Service 34	Posted - 2011.11.30 07:31:00 - [342] - Quote I'm really sorry but for me the new font is more eye relaxing :( Yes you will troll me and i'm sorry for not hating it but it really helps me telling the difference between 0 and o, s and 5. I have to admit scamming people is harder with the new font.
Arcathra Technodyne Ltd. 8	Posted - 2011.11.30 07:36:00 - [343] - Quote I really love the new font It is very clear and so much more readable then the old font. The old font was extremly bad at high resolutions and in many cases numbers were hard to distinguish. With the new font it is fine. I admit that it needs some getting used to it, but after a while I could read the new font as fluent as any other text. The only thing that needs some adjustment are the conter numbers of stacked items at the icon. They seem a bit small and squeezed and are not that easy to read. Keep up with the good UI work and do not listen to the crybabies in this thread. It was soooo predictable that even with a great expansion like this the bitter vets would find something to complain about ...
Psychophantic 157	Posted - 2011.11.30 07:39:00 - [344] - Quote Arcathra wrote: It is very clear and so much more readable then the old font They seem a bit small and squeezed and are not that easy to read. would find something to complain about ...
Vachir Khan TriSeq Defence Group 71	Posted - 2011.11.30 07:40:00 - [345] - Quote thoth rothschild wrote: I'm really sorry but for me the new font is more eye relaxing :( Yes you will troll me and i'm sorry for liking it but it really helps me telling the difference between 0 and o, s and 5. I have to admit scamming people is harder with the new font. I have no problems with people liking the new font but i see it differently, and more problematic it interferes with gameplay due to using up more screen size while giving me a headache at the same time. This opinion/feedback (in various forms as not everyone is the same) was voiced in the font feedback thread on the test server but not given any attention. I'm happy for you that you like it, but for me it makes the game annoying to play (which is a shame as all the other changes are fantastic so far). Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude. If MMORPG players were around when God said, "Let there be light" they'd have called the light gay and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their nutsacks over it.
Arcathra Technodyne Ltd. 8	Posted - 2011.11.30 07:48:00 - [346] - Quote Psychophantic wrote: Arcathra wrote: It is very clear and so much more readable then the old font They seem a bit small and squeezed and are not that easy to read. would find something to complain about ... Oh my! YOu have found a hole in my statement... or not. The new font is overall much more clear and readable, but there is a minor case where it is not that good (but still better than the old one). Just pointing it out, no complaining here. There is always some room for improvement.
Psychophantic 157	Posted - 2011.11.30 08:20:00 - [347] - Quote After messing around with UI on 90% : http://imgur.com/Wr4nC No way I'm using 100%, I like to see what I'm flying and where I'm going. Text in overview is fine, nearly the same size as the old font. Fix the font in the item stacks, ammo counts, and speedo. Fix the icons in space and in the overview. Then we'll be getting somewhere.
dunnhill Murientor Tribe 1	Posted - 2011.11.30 08:22:00 - [348] - Quote I like the new font :)
Kehro Urgus Ab Obice Saevior 33	Posted - 2011.11.30 08:28:00 - [349] - Quote I happen to like the new font. The old one was very hard to look at especially in the market screen. My vision isn't great so I welcome this!!!
Thaylon Sen The Istari Syndicate 7	Posted - 2011.11.30 08:48:00 - [350] - Quote I like the new font (although ammo count could be a little bigger).

Mr Barbeque Mayhem and Ruin The Devil's Warrior Alliance 0	Posted - 2011.11.30 08:48:00 - [351] - Quote This may have been posted earlier but im not about to sift through this entire thread so............. It should be an option. There's no reason to force players one way or the other. Ive seen no evidence to suggest that the old font couldn't scale or work with the other ui changes. Simply give players the option to choose for themselves. /thread
Diana Valenti Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 0	Posted - 2011.11.30 08:56:00 - [352] - Quote Mr Barbeque wrote: This may have been posted earlier but im not about to sift through this entire thread so............. It should be an option. There's no reason to force players one way or the other. tIve seen no evidence to suggest that the old font couldn't scale or work with the other ui changes. Simply give players the option to choose for themselves. /thread This. CCP, Y U dont let us choose font in game?
Hawkwar M.I.M.M.S The Watchmen. 7	Posted - 2011.11.30 08:58:00 - [353] - Quote New font is terrible but so was the old one...... no change as far as i can see.
dr vonVettet Swedish Aerospace Inc The Kadeshi 0	Posted - 2011.11.30 09:05:00 - [354] - Quote The new font is slightly more readable, but that is mainly because it is much larger than the old one, hogging a lot of screen real-estate. Setting UI scaling to minimum and it is a little bit better, but then window decs and window font gets a bit smaller as well. How about allowing scaling of fonts separately from ui, like you do with context menu font size under the "general settings" tab. That would be nice, and please allow for smaller scaling than 90% as well.
Hans Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous 566	Posted - 2011.11.30 09:06:00 - [355] - Quote Barakkus wrote: Endeavour Starfleet wrote: Wow I have rarely seen more idiocy in a single topic. The new font went on Sisi a LONG time ago. You choosing now to complain about it now instead of after CCP asked for FEEDBACK when it went on the test server instantly invalidates your arguement. CCP keep the new font. It is fine. Couple weeks =/= a LONG time. It's plenty of time. Booster changes were discovered by players on the server, and the feedback was almost unanimously against them. They pulled the changes in time for Crucible release. Again, all of these changes font included were blogged about, available on SiSi, and CCP listens and responds to criticism. If everyone had spoke out against the new font, it wouldn't have gotten implemented. Next time, everyone needs to test features out if they're going to have such strong reaction to them.
Vachir Khan TriSeq Defence Group 71	Posted - 2011.11.30 09:20:00 - [356] - Quote Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: Barakkus wrote: Endeavour Starfleet wrote: Wow I have rarely seen more idiocy in a single topic. The new font went on Sisi a LONG time ago. You choosing now to complain about it now instead of after CCP asked for FEEDBACK when it went on the test server instantly invalidates your arguement. CCP keep the new font. It is fine. Couple weeks =/= a LONG time. It's plenty of time. Booster changes were discovered by players on the server, and the feedback was almost unanimously against them. They pulled the changes in time for Crucible release. Again, all of these changes font included were blogged about, available on SiSi, and CCP listens and responds to criticism. If everyone had spoke out against the new font, it wouldn't have gotten implemented. Next time, everyone needs to test features out if they're going to have such strong reaction to them. If you didn't have so much goop in your eyes you might have noticed the font thread on the feedback forum, tons of people were not happy with the changes. Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude. If MMORPG players were around when God said, "Let there be light" they'd have called the light gay and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their nutsacks over it.
cyndrogen Night's Shadows TriMark Alliance 12	Posted - 2011.11.30 10:11:00 - [357] - Quote CCP Navigator wrote: It is currently not possible to toggle between the new font and the old one. While we appreciate that this is something a lot of people are asking for, it simply cannot be done in the current font rendering system. The font is way better WAY better, I can actually read it now!!!
conha Slowly but Surely 0	Posted - 2011.11.30 10:16:00 - [358] - Quote The new font is horrid and in most places it doesnt even fit inside its container as its too big. The new zeros also make it hard to read numbers. How hard can it be to get this right, just get one of those most used fonts and thats it... I have a feeling that the person that let this go into production is the same that let the previous turret icon go live as well. If this is indeed the person then PLEASE take your great design ideas and go back to deviantart.
Ciar Meara Virtus Vindice 307	Posted - 2011.11.30 10:17:00 - [359] - Quote New font is good, this discussion has already been had extensively, you guys are all late to the party. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]
Archetype 66 Pleasure and Pain Ares Protectiva 14	Posted - 2011.11.30 10:18:00 - [360] - Quote So we have two sides : lovers and haters. Lovers, you're wrong, you convince yourself in bad faith. Old font was nice, well scaled and pretty sci-fi oriented but have one major problem that we all know (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/UI_Font_Issues_%28CSM%29). So we all wanted CCP to fix it. What we've get : a new font developed in a hurry, ugly and not properly scaled. Ok, it fixes the old problem but bring a lot more ! Lovers, you don't like the new font, you just like the fact you can recognize an 5 to an S...Wowww CCP fix it ! Bring us something smooth, sci-fi related and pretty (or not so ugly as actual one). "G Y RO S T A B I L I S E R II" Fix it !



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