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Veriasse Valence
Es and Whizz
Hedonistic Imperative
9
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:37:00 -
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All I have to say about this new font is that it looks like somebody scooped it out of the clearance bin at Fontworld USA. Tacky, cheap, and not even remotely sci-fi. I feel like I stepped into a MUD. Two thumbs down for sure. |
Nalia White
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:40:00 -
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Quote:oh wow this is just getting more and more hilarious. oh yes, they should have kept handheld devices in mind when designing hte new font, so many people are playing eve on their tablets, eve should really start moving in the direction of a flash game for download on the android app market. you're a complete tool.
the wallet spacing is actually pretty nice, with the old font i'd have to sit there and quadruple check how much money i was sending/receiving because the numbers were spaced far too close. the new wallet spacing has a nice rhythm that makes it extremely easy to know exactly how much of what is going where.
and just to reiterate: TOOL.
and you think people should take you serious when you throw insults left and right?
and btw. even the old font had ' at every thousand step (10'000'000'000) if you bothered to tab out of the textbox so your argument is invalid.
however. 2 options, old font, new font. everyone is happy. i can see the "rendering" making problems when taking different sizes and fonts into account. but just an option for this 2 settings. i would even restart my game for that :P
seriously. this new font makes me rage... it's the same thing with our modern ERP system in our company where all the older employees have scaled it to like 125%.
and here just for you:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/fontproblem.jpg
and now tell me what this number looks like to you? you don't even see the dot. it's such a strain for the eye to look at that number... and every inventory item is MUCH worse... |
ucntkilme
DPS Delivery Truck
Jokers Wild.
9
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:44:00 -
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Buzzmong wrote:ucntkilme wrote:Yes, I am too young to know what I am talking about yet I am not the one on a 15 inch screen now am I? The font is only an issue if you are too dimwitted to understand UI scalability. The font is only an issue if you have a computer that is about as good as a paper weight.
But font aside, and your tiny monitor (I don't think I have had a 15 inch monitor since somewhere around 1990?).. if the font is really the only thing people have 'issues' with, wouldn't you call that a blazing success for CCP given their past performances with patches? Because I certainly would. I presumed you missed the post where he said he was playing it on a 15" screen laptop? I have size issues on my 19" non-widescreen, I've already posted that it makes all my windows quite a bit bigger, to the extent I have less information available. Now CCP Punkturis told us about the "small font" setting for the overview at least that's tolerable (even it doesn't apply to my drone window), but all my other windows require that same option in order for me to play the game as easy as I did with the last font. I think that's a valid complaint about the new font don't you? (And no, I can't afford to replace a perfectly working screen at the moment before you say I, and others, should do just that).
Do you have your UI scaled down to 90%? I have multiple screens (8) on this machine and on my other machine I have 2. My other machine has a 20 inch wide. at 100% yes it's a bit big, at 90% it's a bit better. Though I would like to see it be a bit smaller so a 80 or 75% ui scalability option would be a good thing in this case. But it doesn't really make the game 'unplayable' |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1766
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:46:00 -
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Dinta Zembo wrote:I think the whole right click thing takes a lot longer than dragging and dropping (and 'distracts from other activities' just as much).
Not compatible with TS/Vent.. well I don't get this.. I normally link system names in channels anyway. What right click thing?
I'm talking about quickly eyeing and repeating the name.
GÇ£Where are you?GÇ¥
GǣEhmGǪ 1S0GǪ no wait, I5OGǪ dammit, I'll link itGǥ [drag, drag, drag, chat latency, reading issues, comparison issues, getting shot while dragging, modules burning out from the overheating/overcycling]
GǣOookGǪ that must be the system next-doorGǪ hopefully  [mutter, mutter, bloody n00b]Gǥ
Compared to.
GÇ£Where are you?GÇ¥
GÇ£I50GÇ¥
GÇ£Warping to gate now.GÇ¥
GÇöGÇöGÇö
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
399
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:49:00 -
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Dinta Zembo wrote:Tippia wrote:Dinta Zembo wrote:Drag the system name from top left into your chat. There you go. No more need to read the name. Takes too long and distracts from other activities; not compatible with TS/Vent. I think the whole right click thing takes a lot longer than dragging and dropping (and 'distracts from other activities' just as much). Not compatible with TS/Vent.. well I don't get this.. I normally link system names in channels anyway.
I'd much prefer that I, and every other pilot flying with me, can simply read the damn system name clearly to begin with. 
To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Bubanni
SniggWaffe
31
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:52:00 -
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Add font scaleing option at least... also confirming, new font literally hurts my eyes, no joke, i like the readability of it, but inside my eyes it gives discomfort for some reason |
Shalia Ripper
The Elevens
19
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:53:00 -
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I love the readable font.
Sure, it isnt pretty, but it is a hell of a lot more easy on the eyes...in fact I can reduce the font size and it is far more legible than the old one. |
Buzzmong
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
46
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:55:00 -
[128] - Quote
ucntkilme wrote:Do you have your UI scaled down to 90%? I have multiple screens (8) on this machine and on my other machine I have 2. My other machine has a 20 inch wide. at 100% yes it's a bit big, at 90% it's a bit better. Though I would like to see it be a bit smaller so a 80 or 75% ui scalability option would be a good thing in this case. But it doesn't really make the game 'unplayable'
Nah, got it at 100%.
See my previous post (#72), if you want more info, as I did try the 90% setting.
Tbh, if the "small font" setting available in the overview could be applied globally to my client, it would be damn near perfect.
Edit: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=433738#post433738
(Forum won't let me stick that in url tags) |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
213
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:59:00 -
[129] - Quote
*lol at chicken forum alt* |
Little Delicious
Imperium's Dark Legion
24
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:59:00 -
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Nalia White wrote:
and you think people should take you serious when you throw insults left and right?
why should i care what you think? if i've got a bone to pick with an idiot i'll tell them they're wrong, i'm not arguing for some prissy internet *****.
Nalia White wrote:
and btw. even the old font had ' at every thousand step (10'000'000'000) if you bothered to tab out of the textbox so your argument is invalid.
i fail to see how that "invalidates" my argument. the apostrophes were hardly legible, it took more than a quick glance to see exactly what number was being portrayed, and was a far cry from how readily visible the new style is.
Nalia White wrote:
however. 2 options, old font, new font. everyone is happy. i can see the "rendering" making problems when taking different sizes and fonts into account. but just an option for this 2 settings. i would even restart my game for that :P
it's ridiculous to ask for ccp to put back into their game an inferior feature, it cheapens it for the sake of some dumb ass who's not going to be happy either way.
if it was the old font, with it's 2 pixel apostrohpe, it would look like 1.7 million, however with it being much more clearly spaced and marked, it's pretty obvious that the slight lacking the decimal may have doesn't somehow trick you into thinking there are 5 numbers between apostrophes.
great whiteknighting for dumbasses though, love the entertainment. |
Dinta Zembo
Snuff Box
19
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Dinta Zembo wrote:I think the whole right click thing takes a lot longer than dragging and dropping (and 'distracts from other activities' just as much).
Not compatible with TS/Vent.. well I don't get this.. I normally link system names in channels anyway. GǣWhere are you?Gǥ GǣEhmGǪ 1S0GǪ no wait, I5OGǪ dammit, I'll link itGǥ [drag, drag, drag, chat latency, reading issues, comparison issues, getting shot while dragging, modules burning out from the overheating/overcycling] GǣOookGǪ that must be the system next-doorGǪ hopefully [mutter, mutter, bloody n00b]Gǥ
Casually move cursor to top left, click, hold, drag to chat, release, press enter.
Takes 2 seconds and it's just as hard as moving some cap boosters around from a container in the cargohold.
Why would you have to call a system name on TS anyway? Either you're in the same system or your buddy is jumps away in which case linking it also gives him the option to set a route. If you both know the area you're in you'll know what system you mean with I5O or IS0 regardless of which one you say.
I don't think it's worth fixing this if it leaves many people unable to read ALL characters properly.
The 'right click thing': typing a system name, highlighting it, right clicking, linking to the system |
Nalia White
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:09:00 -
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Little Delicious wrote:Nalia White wrote:
and you think people should take you serious when you throw insults left and right?
why should i care what you think? if i've got a bone to pick with an idiot i'll tell them they're wrong, i'm not arguing for some prissy internet *****. Nalia White wrote:
and btw. even the old font had ' at every thousand step (10'000'000'000) if you bothered to tab out of the textbox so your argument is invalid.
i fail to see how that "invalidates" my argument. the apostrophes were hardly legible, it took more than a quick glance to see exactly what number was being portrayed, and was a far cry from how readily visible the new style is. Nalia White wrote:
however. 2 options, old font, new font. everyone is happy. i can see the "rendering" making problems when taking different sizes and fonts into account. but just an option for this 2 settings. i would even restart my game for that :P
it's ridiculous to ask for ccp to put back into their game an inferior feature, it cheapens it for the sake of some dumb ass who's not going to be happy either way. if it was the old font, with it's 2 pixel apostrohpe, it would look like 1.7 million, however with it being much more clearly spaced and marked, it's pretty obvious that the slight lacking the decimal may have doesn't somehow trick you into thinking there are 5 numbers between apostrophes. great whiteknighting for dumbasses though, love the entertainment.
dude, only because you say a is b it just isn't. everyone is entitled to his oppinion and I REALLY HAVE A ******* HARD TIME TO READ THIS **** WHERE PREVIOUSLY I COULD PLAY FOR HOURS WITHOUT EVEN THINKING ABOUT IT...
it may be ok for others but for me it's hard to go through 50+ market orders now and you even want to deny us the option to choose because it is "inferior" to you? man, how egocentric can a human beeing be? even for internet standards that's conscerning!
*nerdrage* |
Little Delicious
Imperium's Dark Legion
24
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:14:00 -
[133] - Quote
Nalia White wrote:
dude, only because you say a is b it just isn't. everyone is entitled to his oppinion and I REALLY HAVE A ******* HARD TIME TO READ THIS **** WHERE PREVIOUSLY I COULD PLAY FOR HOURS WITHOUT EVEN THINKING ABOUT IT...
it may be ok for others but for me it's hard to go through 50+ market orders now and you even want to deny us the option to choose because it is "inferior" to you? man, how egocentric can a human beeing be? even for internet standards that's conscerning!
*nerdrage*
yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. and i'm entitled to inform them that those opinions are baseless garbage. |
RiotRick
Black-Sun
Pitch Black Legion
2
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:16:00 -
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Dinta Zembo wrote:Hungry Eyes wrote:i no longer need to wear my glasses to read the UI. Soon I will have to wear glasses because of this UI.
Maybe you can get a monocle? |
E Wan
The Positron
13
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:17:00 -
[135] - Quote
Stop trashing and talking garbage in this forum and go away Little Delicious. With your noobish experience in and outside of this sandbox. |
MaxxOmega
Temporal Mechanics
1
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:21:00 -
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Ava n'Daara wrote:I have a Dell U3011 30" at 2560x1600... Me too. At this rez, EVE looks incredible cool. All kinds of little things happening in the background you can't see otherwise...
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Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
141
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:25:00 -
[137] - Quote
new font looks like ****
but its more readable for me
SO DON'T CHANGE IT YOU ASSHATS
CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Psychophantic
157
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:30:00 -
[138] - Quote
It's like ship spinning all over again.
As predicted. |
RiotRick
Black-Sun
Pitch Black Legion
2
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:31:00 -
[139] - Quote
I think the font in itself is not bad. I like the fact you can actually see the differences between certain letters and numbers.
The spacing of text in certain areas could use some more tweaking though. In some elements there is just too little room around the text. See for example the augmentations tab in the character sheet . Or the number of people in a chat channel: Corp [123]. The spacing looks goofy there. Just like the numbers of stacked items in the hangar. And there are a lot more places where this weird look exists. |
Nalia White
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:31:00 -
[140] - Quote
Psychophantic wrote:It's like ship spinning all over again.
As predicted.
it's a drastic change, but they found the perfect solution with ship spinning even that doesn't impair the gameplay as much as the new font.
just have both possibilities... :) |
Ohanka
The Lone Patrol
Tactical Narcotics Team
2
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:36:00 -
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Shalia Ripper wrote:I love the readable font.
Sure, it isnt pretty, but it is a hell of a lot more easy on the eyes...in fact I can reduce the font size and it is far more legible than the old one.
liar. Its not as readable as the old font. |
ucntkilme
DPS Delivery Truck
Jokers Wild.
9
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:37:00 -
[142] - Quote
Just found the only thing I don't like about the entire font/scalability things. My main screen has a smaller resolution than my TV's (naturally)... and as such when I open up eve clients they open on that screen which drops the scale down to 100% instead of staying at 110%.
This being the case, every time i login all my windows will be reset. That is really the only thing I dislike about the whole new font/scalability features. but even with that, its more of a minor inconvenience than a hatred of it. |
Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
171
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:40:00 -
[143] - Quote
New font is terrible.
The new font is terrible.
CCP Punkturis is the worst Dev.-á Fix the font or you will be the 21st percent. |
Senorita putatita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:42:00 -
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New font gave me a headache. Had to turn game off. Please put it back thank you.  |
Zerakix
The White Mantle
0
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:43:00 -
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The new font is awesome it's crisp clean and easy to read but I'm running at 110% ui on a 1080 monitor if I drop it down to 90% it's horrible but its okay at 100% but looks a little off or rough |
Mila Iijima
Arctic Enterprises
4
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:44:00 -
[146] - Quote
Mostly i don't complain about a thing, because mostly i will adapt. But serious, give us options, i really hate this font, i tried scaling ui to 90% but thats terrible for me, and font size to 9 well it still hurts.
Isn't there any solution to change the font back ? or make a new system for multiple fonts ? old and new one.
About the rest, it looks so much cooler so keep up the good work 
[Mariah carey - all i want for christmas] All i want for christmas is, seriously a new font.
Any change if we go on with complaining about the font, you will change it ? i really don't care if you make a new system with both, but i want the old back.
I'l trade you the old font for a box of Smirnoff ?
- Mila |
Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
171
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:48:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Vaaron Remar wrote:I have great problems using the new UI/Font (screen resolution 1680 x 1050).  The new font ist way better readable than the old one, yes BUT !!!: Setting UI scale to 100% and any icon looks good and everything ist scaled okay except the font in the menus, it's way too big. If I want to see more than 4 columns the overview-window takes easily 1/3 to 1/2 of the screen (font-size in settings changes as usual only context menu font size). Changing UI-size to 90% makes the overview-font more tolerable (but not good!) but buttons and column headers are so tiny you have to guess what's written there. The relation between UI-scale and font-size doesn't seem to fit. It's possible to change the font-size in chat-windows and in the context-menu why is it not possible in overview ??? It's one, if not THE most important window in the game. It has lots of useful columns you want to have at hand in fight but showing them in a reasonable way without blocking the whole screen isn't possible anymore. Hope there will be some fix soon There's an option in the overview settings to use small font 
Just want to tell you I told you so. Your new font sucks. Are you trying to convince us, or yourself, or your boss, that your font is okay? It is garbage.
The new font is terrible.
CCP Punkturis is the worst Dev.-á Fix the font or you will be the 21st percent. |
BigDaddyMcFatSacks
Space Olympics LLC
7
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:55:00 -
[148] - Quote
New font sucks.
Why do you fix things that arent broken?
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Rellik B00n
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
41
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:56:00 -
[149] - Quote
running EvE on a 43 inch HDTV and a 40 inch HDTV, res on both is 1776 x 1000 (would be higher but the 40 inch doesnt like it!).
Under the old EvE I had to run at 1152 x 648 AND i had to adjust the font to widened 13.
New EvE I hit fullscreen, run at 100% and its perfectly readable.
Dont underestimate how nice it is to sit on my comfortable sofa at the other side of the room whilst dual boxing EvE on my TVs.
As far as im concerned job well done CCP.
ps: get out of the basement and loose the tiny little monitors, its 2011 ffs - the days of little towers parked next to desks with 20 odd inch monitors on them while you sit 50cm away are behind us.
Front Room HD EvE ftw. |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
149
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:00:00 -
[150] - Quote
Rellik B00n wrote:running EvE on a 43 inch HDTV and a 40 inch HDTV, res on both is 1776 x 1000 (would be higher but the 40 inch doesnt like it!).
Under the old EvE I had to run at 1152 x 648 AND i had to adjust the font to widened 13.
New EvE I hit fullscreen, run at 100% and its perfectly readable.
Dont underestimate how nice it is to sit on my comfortable sofa at the other side of the room whilst dual boxing EvE on my TVs.
As far as im concerned job well done CCP.
ps: get out of the basement and loose the tiny little monitors, its 2011 ffs - the days of little towers parked next to desks with 20 odd inch monitors on them while you sit 50cm away are behind us.
Front Room HD EvE ftw.
The problem is not everyone plays on big screens, and that they don't want to have the font sized up to take up more pixels.
At the same pixel sizes, the new font is actually worse than the old font with expanded width.
CCP please put in the option of "USE LEGACY FONT" |
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