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Jessie Kenan
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.30 10:32:00 -
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Archetype 66 wrote:
"G Y RO S T A B I L I
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Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
42
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Posted - 2011.11.30 10:34:00 -
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Yeah its the wrap around stuff that rather disappoints me most... especially in Merged Hangar/items view...
Hammerhea
d II
drones in particular.
Worst of all are longer items that completely lose identification until you hover - for example I have lots of tags now:
Caldari
Navy
This is using 90% context menu 9 on an 18" 1280 x 1040 resolution monitor. Chat is all readable for me but it looks a bit naff, especially the numbers as I said previously.
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Vihura
Vihura Cor
0
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Posted - 2011.11.30 11:10:00 -
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Font are ok but scaling is inconsistent don't feel right, there is huge difference how right click menu look compare with overview items. |
Eugene Spencer
Rodents of Unusual Size
19
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Posted - 2011.11.30 11:15:00 -
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I love the new font. t's very readable.
People had plenty of time to feed back before the patch went live. If they can't be bothered, screw them. They'll get over it in a few days anyway.
I have a specific comb for my beard. |
Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
46
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Posted - 2011.11.30 11:46:00 -
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Vera Godspiel wrote:To the opposers of this new font; I've yet to hear an actual valid argument why it is bad.
It's all just personal opinion, no valid argument necessary. You can argue the hell out of why we should have it, but if it looks like crap, people will still not like it no matter how justified it is. That's all that's going on here really for most of us.
In your opinion, you think it's sci-fi ish, I disagree. I think it looks amateurish and unpolished for a 2011 MMO. But these are both personal opinions on a game we spend quite a bit of time looking at. I would like it to look good. I'm sure you would agree?
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Gheng Kondur
Serva Fidem
35
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Posted - 2011.11.30 11:59:00 -
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Eugene Spencer wrote:I love the new font. t's very readable.
People had plenty of time to feed back before the patch went live. If they can't be bothered, screw them. They'll get over it in a few days anyway.
Go here http://irlen.com/distortioneffects.php and hit the blurry option. Being Dyslexic that's what I get with the new font to the extent that this example site is easier to read. Admittedly it gets better in a fixed screen rather full screen mode, but tell me how I'm supposed to get over that and play the game?
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Jessie Kenan
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2011.11.30 12:04:00 -
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What Zifrian said. Also, a lot of people seems to be under the impression that it has to be Form OR Function. Why can't it be Form AND Function. Since most of the counters to 'It looks bad' is 'It's more readable now', I'm assuming they mean 'Yeah it looks bad, BUT it's more readable now' |
My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2011.11.30 12:17:00 -
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Budrick3 wrote:Hazzard wrote:The font is ok but it doesn't scale. On a 30" monitor or greater it looks like it was created for the elderly. After UI scaling it's better but then it bleeds into other characters badly. Needs to scale better. Yes, I have a 37' monitor, and I feel like i am in an old folks home. LOL I can read "You have been Warp scrambled" from my kitchen as I beg my wife to make something.
ROFLMAO!
Buy a smaller monitor, and a string tanga for your wife from saved money. No offence pal  |
LittleBar
Intergalactic Combined Technologies
0
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Posted - 2011.11.30 12:56:00 -
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I believe that this is the first time I have encountered a font in a game or online that actually caused my eyes to ache.  I realize I have trifocals and as such have some issues with eye strain, but I have been playing EVE for more than 6 years and have not had this kind of eye pain till this patch. 
I realize that the programing of the old font had to be changed so that it was scalable, but the "look" of a font is the design. I really have no objection to CCP changing their old font, however this font reminds me of some of the mistakes I made in publishing when I picked a font that looked "cool" but after a while was very hard to read. Headers can be "cool" looking, but body text should be almost invisible as you get to the data. For me, I find the new font painful, and so even with my 25" professional design monitor (its still a ctr, but beautiful) I find this font painful.
My request to CCP is to allow either importation of a True Type font which is scalable or a "boring" alternative font, such as the one we are using right now in the forum. I also realize that this is not a light request and will take a lot of hours of work, but please, I already take too much ibuprophin 
p.s. and I am not a strong pvp player needing massive amounts of screen realestate, I am an industrialist and my assets lists and the industry screen seem much harder to uses now so I don't believe that it is only pvp players who are finding this font difficult to use, even if they do not have the pain associated with it that I do. |
Elder Ozzian
Stargates and Smuggler Barons
8
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:00:00 -
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Well, i have to admit that i like the new fonts better than the old-one.. But the stack-amount indicater should be bigger. |
Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:07:00 -
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I like new font more than old. I also don't play on a laptop.
I Support the Goons! |
Xoria Krint
The Movement
36
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:11:00 -
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The new font may be ugly. But it's very functional and easy to read. IMHFO 
Pro tips: If you don't like how it looks in the chat. Change the fontsize to the lowest and then make it larger twice. Much easier to read. |
Pestilent Industries
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
7
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:15:00 -
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The new font is absolutely atrocious. Fix it. Bring back my old font or you will be the 21st percent. |
Kiddow
Com-Star
SOLARIS - SYNDICATE
2
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:26:00 -
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flank steak wrote:wow you have known this was coming out for about a month and you choose today to complain about it? Seriously forum warriors?
this is just a plain simple knockout argument.
most users dont have time for read every single feature change and it's implications.
2. reminds me of cheap asian default game font. very ugly.
the dimensions are not "right". compare the item icon to the item name and to the stacked number.
this looks like all rules for typography had been violated on purpose.
the commas are so small it becomes hard to get informations on the first glimpse.
3. the font brakes the overview size. i have to resize the whole overview to be able to read all my tabs.
the same applies to the drone window.
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Whyumadtho
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:37:00 -
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Pretty jawdropping you can't pick a different font.
Almost as jawdropping as a crappy window mode for 6 years was.
lol @ CCP |
Ceratin
Dark-Rising
Executive Outcomes
1
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:38:00 -
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Font bad mmkay, ui scalability is a great idea, sure ppl with weird and wonderful sized monitors are very happy
However you may want to go chat to ur web development team about the choice of font / color and weight. You dont take a sharp font and slap it on top of a (game in this case) thats full of soft shading because the contrast between the two causes focus issues when your looking at it. I can feel this immediatly when playing, it is quite physically uncomfortable and i have no eye sight problems that im aware of, please consider changing it or adding an option to revert it back to the old one
Just to balance out the moaning, the new warp + cyno effects are way sexy :) |
Talaan Stardrifter
Universal Exports
THE UNTHINKABLES
9
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:57:00 -
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Took a while to get used to it, but I think it's good.
Definitely much more legible than the last |
Gracie Knoll
AFL-CIO
2
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Posted - 2011.11.30 14:00:00 -
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Yeah one more vote against the Font.
It reminds me of what you used to see on CRT amber screens in the 80s. Bad juju.
I wonder if downloading the font itself to the system would help any? Can't find it in the CCP program folders though.
One thing that could be fixed though are the PROPORTIONS. Between content body, tab names, contextual menu and item quantity (with 90% scaling and font size =9) your eyes are constantly readjusting. The font proportion should be consistent across the board. |
Hark Hanam
Elarion Nation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.30 14:11:00 -
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I didn't saw the font yet, but i think of something reading this thread :
Changing font always cause problems of readability : you need to get used to it (some hours, some days) before being able to compare, otherwise it's just saying that something you used to read is easier to identify than something you never had to read.
Don't get mad if you feel it's useless comment, it's just comment.
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mkint
410
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Posted - 2011.11.30 14:12:00 -
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I do have to say that I feel bad for punkturis. She comes across as so nice and sweet, and nobody seems to much like the work she's done on the font.
Regarding the claims that it is our fault because we haven't tweaked every last setting and tried every last combination of settings I just have to call bullshit. Name a single piece of software since the creation of the crt that requires that much end user tweaking to be minimally functional. Excepting free homemade os's of course. Eve already has too many things that make it unplayable out of the box. This is a game, not an enterprise application . The game should get better over expansions not worse. |
Floydd Heywood
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2011.11.30 14:38:00 -
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mkint wrote:I do have to say that I feel bad for punkturis. She comes across as so nice and sweet, and nobody seems to much like the work she's done on the font.
Nonsense, even on the forums a majority says they like the new font better, just count the posts. And everyone knows that people are more likely to voice their complaints than their praise. Which means that a huge majority likes the new font better.
The old font almost made me stop playing EVE on day one because my eyes hurt from all the reading in this horrible, small, illegible font. New font is not perfect but much much better.
The people who hate the new font seem to be a sizable minority though, so CCP should try to solve their problems too. It seems that most people who say the new font is not readable and hurts their eyes are playing on tiny screens (19'' or smaller). Surely CCP can find a way to make the font look better on small screens without reverting to the old terrible font. |
Psychophantic
162
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Posted - 2011.11.30 14:43:00 -
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Floydd Heywood wrote:huge majority
sizable minority |
Dinta Zembo
Snuff Box
21
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Posted - 2011.11.30 14:51:00 -
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How about an optional patch with the old font?
(and start working on an option to choose a font after that) |
Telkeetna
Northern Lights Outfitters
0
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Posted - 2011.11.30 14:52:00 -
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Love the new font. It is easy to read and looks great at my resolution. |
Floydd Heywood
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2011.11.30 14:55:00 -
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Psychophantic wrote:Floydd Heywood wrote:huge majority
sizable minority
Your point being?
If for example 80% of players like the new font that's a huge majority. If the other 20% dislike it that is a sizable minority. CCP couldn't afford to ignore the pain of 20% of their players, even though they a clearly the minority. |
Fidelium Mortis
Quantum Cats Syndicate
2
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Posted - 2011.11.30 15:01:00 -
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The new font coupled with UI scaling is a godsend for larger screens from a purely utilitarian perspective. I currently run EVE on 1920x1200 and 1920x1080 monitors and this is a welcomed improvement.
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Ham Beast McBackfat
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2011.11.30 15:14:00 -
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The spacing between the characters could use some adjustment. As others have pointed out the decimal gets a bit crowded and difficult to see.
Overall the new font is a huge improvement for me. |
Horus Menvra
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2011.11.30 15:16:00 -
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I must say that at first I strongly disliked the new fonts and actually found it to be a tad more difficult to read, but after scaling to 90% and taking a day to get used to the new font, I've found that I actually like it a great deal more than the old font.
Job well done...even if it takes us a few days to adjust! |
Hark Hanam
Elarion Nation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.30 15:19:00 -
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Now that i have tried it, here's my opinion : nothing wrong with the font, it's readable, smooth. |
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
113
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Posted - 2011.11.30 15:23:00 -
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As much as I love to gripe about things in EvE sometimes, the new font is a vast improvement IMO. |
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