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Dinta Zembo
Snuff Box
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:28:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:
Are you serious? Yeah let's rewrite the code because a very small minority of our customers prefer it that way. WTF?
Are you serious? It's not like a font change affects all of EVE's code that makes up the game mechanics. |
Signal11th
243
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:33:00 -
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Dinta Zembo wrote:Signal11th wrote:
Are you serious? Yeah let's rewrite the code because a very small minority of our customers prefer it that way. WTF?
Are you serious? It's not like a font change affects all of EVE's code that makes up the game mechanics.
Mate you can try and be glib all you want but really so according to CCP 6% of as you say paying customers aren't happy with it (this 6% probably moan at everything) so you want it changed? So what they are paying customers, they can always spend their money somewhere else if they are not that happy over a font.
Sometimes I think it's why CCP have trouble fixing the big stuff because they get waylaid fixing all the silly stuff.
I God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Louise seklkara
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:41:00 -
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Talthrus wrote:The things that are most frustrating to me are solely related to the new numbers:
- Numbers have almost no spacing between them (maybe a pixel?). Is this just something in my client? Can I fix this?
- 8s, 0s, and 9s are particularly hard for me to tell apart at a quick glance. I have to spend extra time confirming that I read prices correctly. It was much easier to read numbers with the old font. Maybe this is related to my screen size/view distance but it's almost unbearably annoying.
The rest of the font seems okay, if a bit cartoonish.
I agree with you. Especially regarding the numbers ( 8s, 0s and 9s). When I check my market orders I know a 0 is a zero, nothing else. I understand that using a slashed zero is useful when you don't know if you're seeing a zero or the letter o in a chat message for example. But now I find it more difficult to spend an hour checking prices. |
SMT008
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:52:00 -
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Well, I like the slashed 0 on system names or on character names, but the "0" in the market and basically everything that is KNOWN to be a number and not a "O", then those "0" should be regular "0" and not slashed ones.
Slashed zeros are harder to read. I mean, they are "heavier", if you know what I mean.
Also, the "." and "," should be more visibile. On the speedometer, you can barely see it when your capital ship's undocking at 79.5m/s. The "." is just too smal, and you can read "795m/s". |
Risingson
Mezzanine Inc INDP
0
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:58:00 -
[575] - Quote
the font and its implementation are beta / apart from font tweaks maybe an uppercase option plus one intermediate step between lowest and next size ? Eveeye.com-áNew Eden Bordcomputer Systems |
Bridget Banks
Mirrage Inc.
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:23:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:[quote=Dinta Zembo][quote=Signal11th]
so according to CCP 6% of as you say paying customers aren't happy with it
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Where did that 6% came from ? Was there a survey ? No one asked me if I like the new font. I don't and I know more people who don't, so it's alot more then 6%. |
Scortched Merc
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:43:00 -
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I'm jumping into the 6% bandwagon... fix/go back to the old font!
I am the 6%... I'm going to go plant a tent in the park across the street at CCP!!! E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your tears fuel my internet spaceship. |
Veriasse Valence
Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
15
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:53:00 -
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After living with the font, it still irks me to no end.
That said, Crucible is otherwise so niiiiiiiiiice. Just because we dislike the font and wish it could change doesn't mean we disapprove of the release! At least I dont. |
Kaede Kimura
Epsilon Inc STORM.
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:55:00 -
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New typeface is GREAT, and an improvement on the old one. People don't know what's good for them. |
Signal11th
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:59:00 -
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Bridget Banks wrote:Signal11th wrote:[quote=Dinta Zembo][quote=Signal11th]
so according to CCP 6% of as you say paying customers aren't happy with it
I Where did that 6% came from ? Was there a survey ? No one asked me if I like the new font. I don't and I know more people who don't, so it's alot more then 6%.
Try reading the rest of the thread then?? God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
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Dimitar Sokarad
Knights of Gallifrae
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:10:00 -
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When did we get EvE for windows v 3.0??? I was promised enhanced graphics! To be fair the in space stuff does look good, but, my UI is rather hideous...
I don't know who thought the 1930's senior citizen sized font was a good idea, but you fail. I have heard people talking about how hard the old font was to read on big screens. Ok, maybe it needed to be changed, but, this font is horrid. It makes the entire UI and all of the changes you affected to it look cheap and 20 years out of date. Not to mention, the changes you made to the fitting window, arguably the best looking part of the UI, make it look like something out of 90's shareware. I cringe every time I have to open my fitting window, and do everything I can to avoid opening it. If going back to the old font is not an option, fine, but find one that doesn't make the game look cheap and out dated please. |
Jenn Makanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:19:00 -
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I like the new font
more people complain, than say nice things. it's normal. so that 6% is likely to be overstating things. |
Mograthi
11
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:22:00 -
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Archa4 Badasaz wrote:Can someone of those who love this new font change your graphic settings to 1024x768 and windowed, and tell how do you find this new font then? Especially the overview window...
Why the heck would i do that when i am not running on a early 90's CRT that is only capable of that? How about you go spend $150 on a LCD that supports 1920 X 1080? |
Archa4 Badasaz
Viziam Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:29:00 -
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Mograthi wrote:Archa4 Badasaz wrote:Can someone of those who love this new font change your graphic settings to 1024x768 and windowed, and tell how do you find this new font then? Especially the overview window... Why the heck would i do that when i am not running on a early 90's CRT that is only capable of that? How about you go spend $150 on a LCD that supports 1920 X 1080?
I only want to hear your opinion - what will you think about new font with those settings... I just want to find out - is that really the Resolution settings or what...
And about spending money - yeah a laptop with monitor... I just don't see that work.
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Dimitar Sokarad
Knights of Gallifrae
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:31:00 -
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Mograthi wrote:Why the heck would i do that when i am not running on a early 90's CRT that is only capable of that? How about you go spend $150 on a LCD that supports 1920 X 1080? LMAO that must be why they did it! So you could run EvE on an early 90's CRT! |
Nalia White
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:36:00 -
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i am buffled with the 6%... i think it's waaaaay more than that oO
i mean when i first logged in the chat was all about the new font and how the people didn't like it. not one other topic about the rest of the expansion which is mindblowingly good! all about the font... 6% is way to optimistic |
bonoMonsterK
Dark Shadows X
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:41:00 -
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6% is nonsense :D It's 4/5 posts or something like that . That font is as someone already mention like from 20 years old game, I just cant belive its still there :( . |
Dinta Zembo
Snuff Box
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Posted - 2011.12.01 20:23:00 -
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Scortched Merc wrote:I'm going to go plant a tent in the park across the street at CCP!!!
I lol'd |
Oylmpia
Oylmpia Holdings Ltd
0
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Posted - 2011.12.01 21:41:00 -
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bonoMonsterK wrote:6% is nonsense :D It's 4/5 posts or something like that . That font is as someone already mention like from 20 years old game, I just cant belive its still there :( .
If the new front is from a 20 year old game, then the new old font (there was a better, earlier font before the new old one) was from a game played with sticks and cones.. in other words, ancient! |
Psychophantic
171
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Posted - 2011.12.01 21:54:00 -
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions. |
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Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
160
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Posted - 2011.12.01 21:58:00 -
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6% reporting in |
Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
140
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Posted - 2011.12.01 22:04:00 -
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Archa4 Badasaz wrote:Can someone of those who love this new font change your graphic settings to 1024x768 and windowed, and tell how do you find this new font then? Especially the overview window... Hey, I tried it on this old TV and you're right! This font is terrible! |
Frederick Khurlheim
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.01 22:16:00 -
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New font is far more legible for me, especially in nullsec, where the old system names were rubbish. Is that a 6 or a G? A 0 or an O? Who knows! Now it's very clear, which is much appreciated. |
Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
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Posted - 2011.12.01 22:23:00 -
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Razin wrote:Archa4 Badasaz wrote:Can someone of those who love this new font change your graphic settings to 1024x768 and windowed, and tell how do you find this new font then? Especially the overview window... Hey, I tried it on this old TV and you're right! This font is terrible!
I went to my 92 year old grandmas house and tried it on her Samtron CRT and it does look like ****.
she says she is getting rid of 3 of her 4 EVE accounts until CCP gets there darn tootin act together. CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Archa4 Badasaz
Viziam Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.12.01 22:27:00 -
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Trainwreck McGee wrote:Razin wrote:Archa4 Badasaz wrote:Can someone of those who love this new font change your graphic settings to 1024x768 and windowed, and tell how do you find this new font then? Especially the overview window... Hey, I tried it on this old TV and you're right! This font is terrible! I went to my 92 year old grandmas house and tried it on her Samtron CRT and it does look like ****. she says she is getting rid of 3 of her 4 EVE accounts until CCP gets there darn tootin act together.
Yeah very funny :) I laughed so hard...
Seriously I like to play this game on my laptop... I like to play this game where ever I want (using laptop) , not sitting in one place for hours (desktop)... |
Jougal
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2011.12.01 22:31:00 -
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I think its great that CCP finally addressed the 0O issues the old font had. However, forcing everyone to use a different font that solves a problem was inevitably going to cause alot of heartache. How CCP didnt see this coming is beyond me. The solution should have been to give us several fonts that could distinguish the difference between 0 O, and allow us to choose the one that suited us the best. I suffer from Dyslexia and the new font makes the game almost unplayable for me. My eyes start to literally vibrate in thier sockets after reading the new font for more than a few moments.
The solution to this problem and most problems you (CCP) encounter should generally involve the question:
How can we empower our customers to do more with our game content after the solution?
The answer should almost always be: give them more options.
By simply adding 5 fonts and a drop down box in the settings to choose one. You could have solved the same problem and avoided 99% of the hate on the forums now being issued at the new singluar font.
I dont know who comes up with your development planning but whoever it was let us down. And they let CCP down and they let themself down.
Good effort. But. Please try harder CCP. |
Mal Darkrunner
Zero Tau Research Institute
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Posted - 2011.12.01 22:34:00 -
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After a quick-and-dirty count of the posts in this thread, of the nearly 300 characters who have posted, I count roughly 45% of characters for the new font/scaling/UI, 42% against it and 13% trolling/offtopic/no opinions. |
Psychophantic
171
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Posted - 2011.12.01 22:40:00 -
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Two accounts unsubbed.
Might return when this issue receives more attention than a condescending dev saying that we're an insignificant minority. |
Fraa Bjorn
Cell 317
10
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Posted - 2011.12.01 22:42:00 -
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I'm OK with the font, but it is way way too large. To give a specific example, to me (on 1920x1080) I get a good sized font in the chat when I press the little [A-]. That size would be good to have throughout the UI. HOWEVER - even in my chat-example, while the size of that font is good, it's too w-i-d-e, reminds me of Courier. PLEASE CCP! Are you using truetype fonts? If so let us drop our own .ttf's in a folder for the game to use. You won't have to care about licensing then... I've tried UI scaling to 90%, but that introduces other problems in the unreadable-department. A corp-mate of mine reports that he gets a headache reading the new font, but I dunno how to quantify that... All games have QQ, but only Eve has Q.Q |
Oylmpia
Oylmpia Holdings Ltd
0
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Posted - 2011.12.01 23:02:00 -
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Mal Darkrunner wrote:After a quick-and-dirty count of the posts in this thread, of the nearly 300 characters who have posted, I count roughly 45% of characters for the new font/scaling/UI, 42% against it and 13% trolling/offtopic/no opinions.
Most likely the majority is happy and keeps on playing.
The usual suspects hanging on forums post positive opinions and then the small % of haters come all here and exaggerate the amount of negative opinions. |
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