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Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
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Posted - 2011.12.01 23:32:00 -
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Still don't like it. I changed my scaling, settings etc. It just looks horrible. Love how my blueprints look like this now:
Hammerhe
ad I Bluepr
int
I play 1920x1080 and I have a new system. Just looks like a 3yr old on a commodore 64 made this. Are you seriously all playing the same game? I can understand the need for making a font readable, but why can't we have options? I could read the old font just fine. Considering almost every other MMO has custom UI's and we are stuck with this, is it too much to ask for say, 3 fonts to choose from?
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Laegor Stormborn
Viziam
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.12.01 23:51:00 -
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New font is terrible. Fix it. |
bonoMonsterK
Dark Shadows X
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Posted - 2011.12.02 00:07:00 -
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Oylmpia wrote:Mal Darkrunner wrote:After a quick-and-dirty count of the posts in this thread, of the nearly 300 characters who have posted, I count roughly 45% of characters for the new font/scaling/UI, 42% against it and 13% trolling/offtopic/no opinions. Most likely the majority is happy and keeps on playing. The usual suspects hanging on forums post positive opinions and then the small % of haters come all here and exaggerate the amount of negative opinions.
Well I think that majority don't believe that posting on forums could help solve this, so they don't even bother . Seriously nobody playing "lower res" like 1024*768 / 1152*864 can't say that font is ok. I saw some pics of ppl playing eve on high res and yes it's not that bad but on these lower ones it's just absolutely terrible. Just try it yourself . |
Cozmik R5
Dock 94
63
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Posted - 2011.12.02 00:19:00 -
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30 pages of the "Font" thread... the hard-headedness of the average EVE forum whiner knows no limits!
Here, have some cheese.
Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
160
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Posted - 2011.12.02 00:32:00 -
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I don't think CCP's attitude is right. Even if the 6% figure is true 6% is not at all a neglectable percentage. In fact, the BEST course of action should be CCP giving us OPTIONS of choosing the new and the old font. Anything less is just excuse and incompetence.
No excuse CCP. Just do your job and DELIVER. In fact, which CCP dev is in charge of UI and fonts? |
Oylmpia
Oylmpia Holdings Ltd
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 00:48:00 -
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bonoMonsterK wrote:[quote=Oylmpia][quote=Mal Darkrunner]Well I think that majority don't believe that posting on forums could help solve this, so they don't even bother . Seriously nobody playing "lower res" like 1024*768 / 1152*864 can't say that font is ok. I saw some pics of ppl playing eve on high res and yes it's not that bad but on these lower ones it's just absolutely terrible. Just try it yourself .
My new CRT in 2000 had 1600x1200, the old one in '96 1280x960.. I really don't want to feel the CRT era again in 2011, sorry 
Of course I'd like a nice shiny fully customizable ui like in WoW where you can choose whichever you font like, and in general adjust every pixel in UI for your liking.
Fat chance CCP doing that though. The UI is still basically what it was in 2003. |
Signal11th
243
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Posted - 2011.12.02 00:51:00 -
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Jodis Talvanen wrote:I don't think CCP's attitude is right. Even if the 6% figure is true 6% is not at all a neglectable percentage. In fact, the BEST course of action should be CCP giving us OPTIONS of choosing the new and the old font. Anything less is just excuse and incompetence.
No excuse CCP. Just do your job and DELIVER. In fact, which CCP dev is in charge of UI and fonts?
Ship spinninggate version 2, zzzzz
You can't please all people all the time invaribly there will always be a minority that doesn't like or feel like they need something changing.
I personally have a fairly decent pc running a fairly high res and the new fonts are very pleasing to my eye BUT unfortunately I can't tell the O's from the 0's when I'm using logmein from work. UNTIL THIS IS SORTED OUT CCP I'M UNSUBBING because I haven't get feck all else to complain about.
I'm sure some people on here just really really really really have to postively without any shadow of a doubt complain about something.
I mean really, it was ship spinning 6 months ago or jump bridges or whatever they were complaining about then but no MY GOD/RANDOM CHAIN OF EVENTS(for the atheists) you haven't given me a choice of fonts how dare they.
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Laegor Stormborn
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.02 00:58:00 -
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You can please everyone, just like they did with ship spinning. It just takes a bit of effort. |
Signal11th
243
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Posted - 2011.12.02 00:59:00 -
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Laegor Stormborn wrote:You can please everyone, just like they did with ship spinning. It just takes a bit of effort.
funny really because I couldn't have cared less about ship spinning. So really your argument is baseless.
In fact I'm going to elaborate a bit, I really don;t care what EVE looks like I really don;t , I couldn't give a rats a ss if it looked like a car crash on my screen, All I want is when I log in something interesting that can or will happen when I'm flying around.
When the game is near perfect and I'm landing on planets shagging the local natives and flying off with Darius's clothes that he left on the beach then I'll complain about how my eyes hurt because I'm looking at EVE on a 14" monochrome CRT screen on 512*128 res in EGA colors (one for the old school)
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Pestilent Industries
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2011.12.02 01:56:00 -
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I am glad you didn't care, but I could care less about you. |
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Dimitar Sokarad
Knights of Gallifrae
2
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Posted - 2011.12.02 02:25:00 -
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I would not even be opposed to a change in the font, UI, fitting window, what have you, but...
When the changes made look as though an incredibly insignificant amount of time was spent on them, I dislike. When the new fitting window looks better with screen shots from various early-mid 90's video games shopped in, over my shiny Machariel, I have a problem.
Please in the future spend more than 5 minutes updating the UI on a patch/expansion
(see Devs, players can be condescending too) |
3ronco
requalivahanus
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 09:24:00 -
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Dear CCP,
i knew you would screw the UI and font stuff right the moment it got public that there's going to be a change although i admit it must have been a pain in da a** job to implement such a beast. You contradicted a scalable font rendering system in a way i thought was never possible. Think a moment about what was intended and what you've done:
- font (style) not selectable
- not any size adjustable
- font size not effective on all texts
- font spacing is ... ehrm spacious! ... & not adjustable!
Well for b) a size of 50% or 300% may not seem plausible but it's a user decision not a developer decision to use such a size. User may decide if it's readable or not. For c) it just doesn't make any sense to adjust font size on tabs & titles only and everything else is left as it is.
It seems to be a CCP tradition to implement such things half baken and then taking away the most important options from being user adjustable. Now i'm left with a scalable font rendering and a font which is too big for my taste. Skill window looks penetrated same goes for market which is more usable with a small font showing a lot of orders.
No offense, just constructive criticism. Hate it, love it but don't ignore it. |
Signal11th
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Posted - 2011.12.02 09:42:00 -
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Pestilent Industries wrote:I am glad you didn't care, but I could care less about you.
But you cared enough to post, shucks .... Your post is almost as worthless and pointless as this one.
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Don Aubaris
Consolidated Holdings
War Ensemble.
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 10:40:00 -
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So...is this the post where you go to complain about the font ? :)
I'm not saying that the old one had no problems. But this correction is certainly not an improvement.
At 'low res' it's terrible. It does get indeed a bit better when you improve your screen resolution. But that one was set on a level that I found best for me. Why should I need to increase that for a game?
From the specs : "The minimum screen resolution for EVE is 1024x768." So there should have been atleast an effort to make it look nice at that resolution.
I suggest that DEV that has made this, is forced to work at that resolution for all her work for the next year. Stop spoiling them by giving them super high res stuff.
And why management allowed a font change at this time is incomprehensible. You went flat on your face with the previous expansion. This one should lure players back. And you think something as controversial as a font change will do that? You can't win with that. No one start playing again because there is a new font. People do get obset because there is a new font. Or is this a non documented spec increase. Which is always nice to introduce when subscriptions are going down. right? |
Mira Kale
The Hippies
The Bohemians
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Posted - 2011.12.03 00:36:00 -
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Not liking the new font, very poor job.
It seems somewhat subjective as some of the posts here are positive, however I am finding
- Font is too large outside chat windows
- Very poor quality management, embarrassing text overlap in *many* UI dialogs
- Seems like whoever made this never thought about kerning
Very retrograde step for me. |
cyclobs
Loud Curse Enterprises
5
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Posted - 2011.12.03 04:53:00 -
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new font is almost as bad as my own handwriting and that's an achievement on its own.
now i'm not saying the old font wasn't bad, i never had any issues with it my self but that's because i have good eyes and liked it being small.
we've gone from bad to bad. CCP needs to implement a way of changing font. |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2011.12.03 05:44:00 -
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LOL, can't believe the BIGGEST gripe of this PATCH, err Xpac for eve was the FONT ... tsk, tsk tsk.
Admit it, the FONT IS AWESOME and you playing in your CRT generic Asian brand 15inch monitor from 2001 in the back corner of the basement as you listen to some 45 rpm vinyl records and 8tracks just isn't cutting it anymore. If you want to play with low end specs go back to wow, really.
Fact is, when I play from my netbook, since I have heard the biggest gripe was from small monitors, I realized the FONT IS AWESOME still.
Yes, yes, I can admit a toggle on/off functionality of sorts MIGHT be good, but honestly I would love CCP letting us choose MORE fonts besides the standard, instead of letting us switch to the old one which WAS CRAP.
IF this was the most disappointing issue from the "community", the patch ... err xpac was a success!
We need more patches like these , dubbed Crucible.
So much, so much to patch still, but a good start nonetheless. |
Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.12.03 06:17:00 -
[618] - Quote
I like the new font, I can read it :) |
Raimo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
37
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Posted - 2011.12.03 07:13:00 -
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New font is for the worse, much less readable in chats especially, and changing UI scaling and text size doesn't work like one would assume. It does have some basic functionality that the old one didn't (like "0" and"O") but this should not definitely be final, and having the option to use the old one would be good. |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2011.12.03 09:31:00 -
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you tally up the pros and cons of the new font the result is NOT THAT BAD CHILL DUDERS
it is like if i went on second life and raged where's the spaceships |
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Vasilij Ramius
HexMux
0
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Posted - 2011.12.04 01:49:00 -
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given how much reading there is in this game, this font change pretty much took me out of playing eve online |
cyclobs
Loud Curse Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.04 02:22:00 -
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Mograthi wrote:Archa4 Badasaz wrote:Can someone of those who love this new font change your graphic settings to 1024x768 and windowed, and tell how do you find this new font then? Especially the overview window... Why the heck would i do that when i am not running on a early 90's CRT that is only capable of that? How about you go spend $150 on a LCD that supports 1920 X 1080?
post like these are annoying as ****.
LAPTOPS DON'T HAVE ******* 100 INCH SCREENS AND BILLIONS OF ******* PIXELS ON THEM, GET OF YOUR HIGH HORSE |
Amber Green Thorn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.04 02:47:00 -
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Nothing truly wrong with the new font. CCPTorfi said himself that it was developed and integrated into Crucible at breathtaking speed and that it involved two departments.
In rushing this out to please us ungrateful bastards, CCP posted up a font that in some sizes/kerning etc looked very very good- and in others looked like cack. Thing is - they messed the whole thing up by coming out with the flawed concept of being scaleable in the first place.. Wrong move.
Some posters have complained about mild headaches - all the way through to some players in comas ; I'll tell you this now - The new scaleable UI uses the same font in incremental sizes -plus it mixes both bold and normal styles just to confuse your brain. In effect those migraine sufferers are basically having to refocus (or micro refocus) your eyes every time you go from chat to market to description window etc etc repeat to fade. The laws of print design, whether online or on paper, are pretty damned well fixed on this. DO not Do it!!
Alarm bells ought to have rung out. Crucible waved it's shiney baubles at us; dipped 'the bag' on us - and we nodules dropped the ball.. All those greasemunkis on the test server hang your liitle munki faeces in shame. Shoulda told us..
I'm confident that CCP will revise this all soon.
When this game came out back in 2003-stroke-oatcake it received plaudits for its uber slick, polished UI. They'll fix it.
EDIT OH god.. .. didn't mean to write so much......... TL;DR = Just shut the f uck up |
Shkolnica
7
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Posted - 2011.12.04 06:43:00 -
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Adamonus wrote:...give them time to like the new font ^^....some cry because of problems, and some cry just because of anything new.
Function clearly is more important than any liked design in this case.
Are you kidding?
Current font made eve ui look like a piece of crap.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/341/20111204063706.jpg/ |
Sin Rei
FA we are
0
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Posted - 2011.12.04 06:48:00 -
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Dear CCP.
Please change back to the original font or atleast give us the option. This new font is disgusting and looks nothing like EVE. It reminds me of some medievil, fantasy type game font. Its also crap to read and makes everything too big.
Don't fix what ain't broke.
Thankyou. |
Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
143
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Posted - 2011.12.04 07:00:00 -
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Sin Rei wrote:Dear CCP.
Don't fix what ain't broke.
Thankyou.
Old font was broke.
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Miyau
Perkone
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.12.04 19:43:00 -
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Gotta say, I'm not a fan of the new font. It's more noisy, takes up more space and looks too rounded (I think? Hard to describe, but it's not as sleek as before). It actually seems very dated in style, it reminds me of early word processors. |
Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
22
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Posted - 2011.12.04 20:37:00 -
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I must say, I love the new font. On my screen anyway, it's much easier to read. That being said, I wouldn't object to giving players the option for the old font if that's what they prefer, and if it's not a big technical problem. |
yer mammy
Angellic Industries
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Posted - 2011.12.04 23:49:00 -
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I think the fact that the dev team believes they can't make a font that is legible and nice looking at the same time is a telling sign that they weren't good enough for the task at hand.
but hey! at least they totally got the legibility part, right?
oh wait, this guy has a -31 sec status.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7142/6456061049_77ff5e059f_m.jpg
maybe in another 7-10 years we'll get something better. |
Psychophantic
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Posted - 2011.12.05 06:52:00 -
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Maxpie wrote:giving players the option for the old font if that's what they prefer, and if it's not a big technical problem.
They can sink millions of dollars into WoD but giving us two fonts is an insurmountable obstacle.
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