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Emma Ravon
Arbosa Industries
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:06:15 -
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new icons suck balls please go back to the way the where no one likes them |
Natascha Kerenski
SUDDEN STRIKE SOCIETY
5
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:06:27 -
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so once you figured out which icon represents a rookie ship, what icon stands for a standard frig, which one is a assault frig...and so on, you still have to look in the columns at the type to know if its a gallente one or minmatar.....because there is the decisive difference.
somebody said more playful is good in my opinion its just fluff and absolutly not needed! In most situations you have to decide in a single second if you attack or run and functional minimalistic crosses working just fine! cause second information that this mess of icon dosent show, the important one, is the exact hull you are facing.
Edit: dont get me wrong this is meant as constructive feedback/criticism. If you do a new overview, it should have a clear advantage over the old one. I just cant get the advantage here. |
wappie weed
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:08:13 -
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i need to anoy somebody .... i realy hate the way my ship is now why change something that works fine now myship is unstable no fun i gave up alot to make it stable now you people rune it big time
and ya the overview items... why change it it worked great ... and its anoying to look at something you click on ..
lool when you looting containers or wrecks real fast you get sick from the screen turning and rolling over |
Azrael Sheriph
Original Sinners The Bastion
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:08:51 -
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Did you seriously allow station serives to be entosised during non vulnerability hours?
i though you were smarter than that.
cause if you did
1 your giving the defender daily quests. 2 your giving a total licence to troll to attackers 3 your giving complete free kills to pirates (which we all though was the point of a vunrablity window)
gj ccp |
chmeee kzin
Raging Main Zero Fux.
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:09:19 -
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The new icons... well, looks like we are playing in Lego world.
My first thought after jumping through gate and looking at overview was... Oh my! look at all the pretty colored flashing "smart fab units" wait? since when did "smart fab units" have lasers?
Note to self: Build new ship to replace one lost in L-EGO system.
You guys do know how the cognitive recognition process works right? Brain matches symbol with object, brain assigns priority, brain stores. New symbols introduced for same object confuses brain and prompts the brain to issue the "WTF error message".
oh well, I will adapt |
Dominous Nolen
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union Mordus Angels
51
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:09:26 -
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Johnny Suicide wrote:Natya Mebelle wrote: ZERO improvements on starmap, which are direly needed.
How do you figure this as they just redid the entire map and it looks wicked awesome.
New Map looks nice but isn't close to functional in ALOT of areas.
This is EVE, Not Hello Kitty: Island Adventure
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Powder and Ball Alchemists Union - "Turning Lead into Gold since 2008"
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Jellas
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:11:20 -
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New icons are horrible and do not carry any meaning . The designer should look for a new job. |
Koba Kyogen
Ultima Unitatis The Asylum.
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:12:06 -
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Horrible Icons.
Terrible.
* PLEASE * Give us the option to turn off the new icons, or scrap the change altogether. This was not necessary, and is now an ugly burden.
Koba |
Natya Mebelle
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:12:58 -
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Johnny Suicide wrote:Natya Mebelle wrote: ZERO improvements on starmap, which are direly needed.
How do you figure this as they just redid the entire map and it looks wicked awesome.
You might want to read this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5524993#post5524993
And then you want to read this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5702402#post5702402
Since system scanning went live, I have not seen a SINGLE person saying they preferred the new map over the old one. Not a single one. This includes forum, corp chat, other chats. This includes people who hardly scan, to those who scan for a living, ranging from PvE hacking to scanning down ships quickly in order to warp a fleet to the target.
Only because it "looks" wicked awesome, doesn't mean it FUNCTIONS better than before. Which it clearly does not.
Usability is more important than looks. Make it useful first, then improve the looks WITHOUT cutting down on functionality. Sadly, this mantra seems to be forgotten more and more each passing year, on a global scale. |
Koba Kyogen
Ultima Unitatis The Asylum.
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:15:07 -
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chmeee kzin wrote:The new icons... well, looks like we are playing in Lego world. You guys do know how the cognitive recognition process works right? Brain matches symbol with object, brain assigns priority, brain stores. New symbols introduced for same object confuses brain and prompts the brain to issue the "WTF error message".
exactly.
How do we erase twelve years of visual cues and muscle memory? Why the hell was this a priority?
Change it back !! Or - give us the option to turn it off.
Whiskey tango foxtrot.
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Makkuro Tatsu
Spontaneous Massive Existence Failure
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:17:33 -
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Emma Ravon wrote:new icons suck balls please go back to the way the where no one likes them
Tim: "CCP should not have changed icons." Tom: "We should never have come down from the trees." Tina: "Trees? Getting out of the ocean was a mistake."
I do like the new icons better than the old ones. Like many changes in life they take a little getting used to, that's all. Get a grip. |
Dominous Nolen
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:17:56 -
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Natya Mebelle wrote:Johnny Suicide wrote:Natya Mebelle wrote: ZERO improvements on starmap, which are direly needed.
How do you figure this as they just redid the entire map and it looks wicked awesome. You might want to read this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5524993#post5524993
And then you want to read this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5702402#post5702402
Since system scanning went live, I have not seen a SINGLE person saying they preferred the new map over the old one. Not a single one. This includes forum, corp chat, other chats. This includes people who hardly scan, to those who scan for a living, ranging from PvE hacking to scanning down ships quickly in order to warp a fleet to the target. Only because it "looks" wicked awesome, doesn't mean it FUNCTIONS better than before. Which it clearly does not. Usability is more important than looks. Make it useful first, then improve the looks WITHOUT cutting down on functionality. Sadly, this mantra seems to be forgotten more and more each passing year, on a global scale.
First thing I did when this went live was switch back to the old map. For anyone that does any form of scanning this new map is useless.
This is EVE, Not Hello Kitty: Island Adventure
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Powder and Ball Alchemists Union - "Turning Lead into Gold since 2008"
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Nikki Issier
Member of Member of Member of Member of
2
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:18:38 -
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Don Pera Saissore
35
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:18:47 -
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Faruzen en Divalone wrote:Don Pera Saissore wrote:http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66945/1/UIModernization_Blog_Screenshot.jpg
Can we have this plz Isnt it almost the same as it is right now after the update? Its practically the same! You criticize just to criticize i think.
How is that "practically the same" In the preview we have nice filled out triangles with different width and size all easily distinguishable when placed near each other.
I think your eye sight was damaged by the new overview, i would sue ccp if i were you |
XSANATOS
Bane and Pain Limited Expectations
0
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:18:57 -
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Missing new alliance logos !
Why no information about this to us, the site for the thread is broken, still no info !
CCP FIX IT
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Nemesis DCC
Dead Crow Cult
0
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:19:30 -
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How the hell do I fix my problem? Game gets stuck when launched and not responding (Win 8). Tried everything and it won't bloody start. Changed to WIn 7 Compatibility mode and made it just worst. Somebody having the same problem and managed to fix it? |
inflogim
Blue Color Works
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:19:51 -
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new icons .... arghhhh; what a garbage |
Nikki Issier
Member of Member of Member of Member of
2
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:21:05 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Carnyx has been successfully deployed on June 2 during an extended downtime. Carnyx brings many new features to EVE Online, including fully revamped icons in space and in the overview, the first set of sovereignty changes, fantastic new graphic shaders, module rebalances, the Caldari Tech-3 destroyer "Jackdaw" and more. You can check out details of all these features on the new Updates webpage, here. The full details of all changes and improvements are available in the patch notes. For general discussion and feedback regarding Carnyx, please use this thread.Please report issues with the release on the PC in the Carnyx issues thread. For Mac users, there is, as always, a thread on the Macintosh forums for discussion of this release here.
Nice job guys |
Rilixpilix
Gladius Veritatis Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:22:09 -
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dear CCP please stop hurting my eyes and bring back the old overview icons thank you
P.S. NO there is NO WAY you can fix those |
Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
200
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:22:58 -
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Natya Mebelle wrote:Eli Stan wrote:I spent a few hours over the weekend PvPing on SISI and found the new icons useful for telling different ship types apart when looking at the battlefield. Much better than differently sized squares. While this is true, it still does not solve the issue that some icons are not as clear cut as others and too similar when there are lots of different ship types around. There are even not enough distinctions between Tech1 and Tech2 ships on an icon level. So again, we are not even half there. Hi, Natya! o/
While we are indeed not at a point where every ship type can be discerned by an in-space icon, we're a lot closer now than we were before when all we had were some differently sized squares, some of which were actually shared by differently sized ships. Also, I'm not so concerned about discerning T1 vs T2 ships - for example Caracal vs Cerb. That would start introducing too much clutter, IMO. Just like I don't need in-space icons to differentiate an Exeq logi from an Exeq Navy blaster ship. Or a slow Vexor from a fast Stabber. Just knowing "Cruiser" is enough.
I think CCP have gone far enough for an initial deployment of new icons. Now CCP just need to see how things shake out as players adjust to the new icons from use, rather than an initial gut reaction.
Quote:There are also more things to Eve than just PvP. Sharing the same kind of icons with NPCs, and also having icons which are too similar to each other is not going to help anyone in the long run. Look at neutral NPC icons. Can you tell what is a player, and what is an NPC just by icon alone? No, you can not.
Actually - and I do realize that this might be unique for me and doesn't apply to everybody, or even anybody, else - it's extremely easy for me to tell neutral NPCs from other players after this patch. It's not by icon, which I've never used to begin with. That's because all players are colored to me - purple for fleetmates, red/yellow for legal lowsec targets, and teal for everybody else. It makes it extremely easy to pick out ships from non-ships on the overview.
Quote:I do not want to congratulate CCP on a change that causes more bad things than good ones. For me, it's working out to a nice improvement so far.
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Altomir
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:23:36 -
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New icons are MONSTROSITY!! Remove this and forget it ever happened ASAP!!!! |
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:24:39 -
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New icons for ships -> good, now I can tell what I'm shooting. New icons for everything else -> no, just no. Who thought that changing gate icon into a pac-man is an improvement? Celestials becons icon? Is it 90'? Very bad design and I don't think it was necessary.
"-What are you doing?"
"-Docking."(...)
-"It's not possible"
-"No, it's necessary."
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SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
280
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:25:50 -
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Someone explain to me the reason the notification caused by the Entosis Link is game wide? System or constellation wide sure, but universe wide goes directly against the idea of the new sov system.
Buddy Program: If you sign up with my buddy invite link and subscribe with a valid payment method - I will give you 95% of the going rate for PLEX!
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Saisin
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:26:00 -
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Update went fine, and I do like the new icons. Can't believe someone is ready to pay 1b8 for a Jackdaw in Jita
Now looking forward to test the entosis link on services that needs to go down, as orders have been given
"surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope...
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Judith Baker
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:28:01 -
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Alt tabbing back into the game is much slower for me now in fullscreen mode. |
Bravo Ghost
Shadows Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:28:44 -
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Anyone else having a tough time adjusting to the new icons?
I find they look terrible especially when scaled and some of the icons just look like they belong in a pack-man game! Personally I would prefer the ability to make and import my own, having a decent knowledge of design software I am Sure I could make way better icons
Thanks for trying CCPGǪ |
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1649
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:30:09 -
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Nami Miyasaki wrote:The icons are awesome!
Objectively good artistic work.
Only reason why people dont like them is because they havent become used to associate the icons yet.
I regret to inform you that that is a steaming pile.......
We have had plenty of experience of these icons on SISI and more than enough time to adapt, IF you were correct.
You are not.
These issues were reported, multiple times, by many people, and in spite of being told our views were being taken account of, they were ignored. That is a valid choice I suppose, but now they will encounter the full mass of dissatisfaction. This could have been so easily avoided, by actually acting on the feedback.
The design is poor, but that can be lived with, however, apart from the mass blobs of icons in space overlaying each other into an illegible mess, icons of cruisers and below are just illegible and indistinguishable. Possibly OK with 20 year old eyes and 20/20 vision, but anyone else is so out of luck.
Please tell me how one "gets used" to something that cannot be clearly seen? Or is 30 years old the new blind? If one restricts the game to teenagers, well, one will get the customers one deserves.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
5576
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:32:26 -
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Removed an off topic post.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Violent Grey
Walking On Marshmallows
2
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:34:01 -
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sweet, today is a good day. I get my accounts re subbed and a new patch release... haha! good morning to everyone :P |
Brad
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:34:40 -
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I'm getting crashes, stalls and bsods when using multiple clients now. Turning everything from high to low detail and using the launcher gives you about 5 mins while not using the launcher and max graphics crashes before the 2nd client loads. I never get crashes or bsods and I play all the latest. Everything is up to date driver wise. Sort it out pls
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