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DemetRYS
Relentless Terrorism Separatists
11
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:05:39 -
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CCP - Do you guys test anything before patching? Are you sure you do? Like, REALLY sure? Because it doesn't look like you do.
Not sure what's worse: a dev department that doesn't test, or a dev department does test and produces patch this buggy anyway. |
Steijn
Quay Industries
683
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:08:10 -
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CCP Claymore wrote:Panterata wrote:Hey Lebowski, who is responsible for the icons?
Tell him to write something here on the players and not hide as a mouse! That would be me and my team, Team Game of Drones. We are reading the feedback you are providing. All I can say at the moment is please take some time to get used to the new icons if this is the first time you are seeing them. It has been a while since they last changed, if ever, and it will take a while to learn them again. We are aware that the new icons do not look great with 90% UI Scaling. This is an issue we are looking at but is a bigger project due to the nature of UI Scaling. We are monitoring your feedback and will try and respond to your issues and concerns. Thank you for all your feedback so far.
i changed mine to 100% after you replied to my previous post. They still look ****!!
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epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1652
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:08:56 -
[243] - Quote
CCP Claymore wrote:Panterata wrote:Hey Lebowski, who is responsible for the icons?
Tell him to write something here on the players and not hide as a mouse! That would be me and my team, Team Game of Drones. We are reading the feedback you are providing. All I can say at the moment is please take some time to get used to the new icons if this is the first time you are seeing them. It has been a while since they last changed, if ever, and it will take a while to learn them again. We are aware that the new icons do not look great with 90% UI Scaling. This is an issue we are looking at but is a bigger project due to the nature of UI Scaling. We are monitoring your feedback and will try and respond to your issues and concerns. Thank you for all your feedback so far.
Please provide your playerbase, with eyes that do not operate with the usual physics regarding optics in the real world. As that seems to be the only alternative, if you continue to persist in designing icons that do not take into account real world issues of legibility.
Walk down to your local optician, and ask his opinion, you really have a serious problem here, and need to face up to it.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
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Slava Gagarin
Space Traffic Control
1
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:10:51 -
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1. new overview icons are very bad !
2. why do you changed rats + ( awfull ) idea realy , pluses is better and more simple !
3. please keep it simple !
good luck |
DllOverRun
Tommy Wat Inc.
1
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:11:42 -
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The overview icons are just total rubbish its a strain to see what's what now :( Grrrrrrrrrrr not a happy hector :( |
Panterata
BRUTAL GENESIS GaNg BaNg TeAm
54
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:11:47 -
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CCP Claymore wrote:Panterata wrote:Hey Lebowski, who is responsible for the icons?
Tell him to write something here on the players and not hide as a mouse! That would be me and my team, Team Game of Drones. We are reading the feedback you are providing. All I can say at the moment is please take some time to get used to the new icons if this is the first time you are seeing them. It has been a while since they last changed, if ever, and it will take a while to learn them again. We are aware that the new icons do not look great with 90% UI Scaling. This is an issue we are looking at but is a bigger project due to the nature of UI Scaling. We are monitoring your feedback and will try and respond to your issues and concerns. Thank you for all your feedback so far.
Hi CCP Claymore. The ppl don't want to get used to them. They want to have an OPTION to use old one or new! Personally for myself and my corp mate and old players we want to use the old one.
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S810 Jr
C.Q.B Snuffed Out
17
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:12:30 -
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All I have to say about the new icons is:
To the Jita statue? |
Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
502
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:16:38 -
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Thank you for your buff to large scale gang warfare. It would appear the easiest way to deal with the new icons is to ensure you have 3 times as many on grid as your opposition.
Nice stealth balance to help current sov holders defend their territory against small gangs testing out the new entosis links. |
Kaldi Tsukaya
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
86
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:17:32 -
[249] - Quote
CCP Claymore wrote:Panterata wrote:Hey Lebowski, who is responsible for the icons?
Tell him to write something here on the players and not hide as a mouse! That would be me and my team, Team Game of Drones. We are reading the feedback you are providing. All I can say at the moment is please take some time to get used to the new icons if this is the first time you are seeing them. It has been a while since they last changed, if ever, and it will take a while to learn them again. We are aware that the new icons do not look great with 90% UI Scaling. This is an issue we are looking at but is a bigger project due to the nature of UI Scaling. We are monitoring your feedback and will try and respond to your issues and concerns. Thank you for all your feedback so far.
Sh*t deflectors on maximum, captain!
Hang in there, pickup a bottle or two for your crew, and you'll get through this. Most of the icons seem logical. Tough art project when you are given <40 pixels to work with... |
Komercijala
Aura Solutions
2
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:17:56 -
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hello ccp i need to say GET BACK OLD ICONS this ones are terrible PLEASE |
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Carrion Crow
Darkness and Voices
8
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:18:16 -
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Caracal... Cerberus...
Oh my.
They are incredible.
Still pondering icons... |
Vic Jefferson
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
312
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:19:24 -
[252] - Quote
CCP Claymore wrote:Panterata wrote:Hey Lebowski, who is responsible for the icons?
Tell him to write something here on the players and not hide as a mouse! That would be me and my team, Team Game of Drones. We are reading the feedback you are providing. All I can say at the moment is please take some time to get used to the new icons if this is the first time you are seeing them. It has been a while since they last changed, if ever, and it will take a while to learn them again. We are aware that the new icons do not look great with 90% UI Scaling. This is an issue we are looking at but is a bigger project due to the nature of UI Scaling. We are monitoring your feedback and will try and respond to your issues and concerns. Thank you for all your feedback so far.
Honestly though the feedback on the test server feedback forum is pretty much a microcosm of what is happening here, with at least a 3:1 bad:good ratio. With the new map, players were happy with the option to turn it off - I was extremely happy I could still use the old map. It will take you a long time to iterate through this sufficiently to please a majority of people, so in the mean time it would be hugely beneficial for both designers (using metrics of usage), and players to have the option to go back to the old icons, so they can play the game the way they like to in the mean time.
Options. To not have them and have something like this forced just makes lots of friction happen.
Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM X
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Lord Makk
Trust Doesn't Rust Triumvirate.
14
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:20:17 -
[253] - Quote
CCP Claymore wrote:Panterata wrote:Hey Lebowski, who is responsible for the icons?
Tell him to write something here on the players and not hide as a mouse! That would be me and my team, Team Game of Drones. We are reading the feedback you are providing. All I can say at the moment is please take some time to get used to the new icons if this is the first time you are seeing them. It has been a while since they last changed, if ever, and it will take a while to learn them again. We are aware that the new icons do not look great with 90% UI Scaling. This is an issue we are looking at but is a bigger project due to the nature of UI Scaling. We are monitoring your feedback and will try and respond to your issues and concerns. Thank you for all your feedback so far.
You can respond by reverting the icon garbage, have you looked at it? Are you a Monopoly fan?
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Shinah Myst
SoT The Gorgon Empire
34
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:22:29 -
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Okay, you got me there CCP. How much should I pay for you to bring back the old icons? No seriously, just tell me the number. Because I am not going to get used to the mess. I am not going to lose ships shooting MTU or a station service instead of the enemy just because you think I should give a try to something nobody asked you for. Well, if you give me free ships, then I might reconsider ofc. You could've fixed the damned twitch.tv integration that you introduced in the half-baked state (resets resolution to 1024x768, etc) months ago and never touched after that. |
Tren-chance Kumamato
Chaos Crusaders
1
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:22:49 -
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The icons look like crap, They were fine they way they were, like most of the other UI changes ccp has made in my time playing. Still prefer the square targeting instead of the round targeting, The square ones fit on the screen better, etc. Wish I could CHOOSE between one or the other..
I don't think I care for the need to change things that were fine to make it look like you're doing something, anything, at all.
*this alt expiring in seven days, main character is already expired many days ago*
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Panterata
BRUTAL GENESIS GaNg BaNg TeAm
60
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:23:46 -
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Claymore you do the same mistake with the Tooltips and with the Opportunities - you just ignore the players!
Please just this time make the things right and make an option to use the old icon style! |
Vol Arm'OOO
Bagel and Lox
381
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:23:55 -
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Natya Mebelle wrote:Let's see...
Getting rid of 50mm plates and micro shield extenders is good, further tiericide on those modules is good either. BUT. You should have named them Size - codename - fluff name - Armor Plates / Shield Extender. Next step to Sovereignty... I remain hopeful, let's see how it goes. This concludes the positive changes.
Negative changes and absences? ZERO improvements on opportunities, which are direly needed. ZERO improvements on starmap, which are direly needed.
Overview icons which are not optimized for all UI scales. Overview icons are now IDENTICAL to players and NPCs in shape.
You got a good amount of flak for the previous overview icon "attempts" of yours, and you didn't learn anything of it? Great, now the icons are "hollow" and you got a bit more abstracts into the triangle shapes. But the problem is, that there are too many things that still can be confused with existing overview icons.
So, you don't have any "bracket" and "cross" shaped icons any more? If that really is the case, then this is by all means THREE steps backwards while taking only one step forward. Yes, the ship icons needed an overhaul. No, the direction of the change was not good.
Making frigates now look like mobile depots is like the worst thing ever.
Regarding the star map - there is one improvement that needs to be made - turn off the beta/new map as default. Fortunately there is a fix - go to your settings and turn off the beta/new map. With the beta/new map turned off everything is good.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
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Lahnius
4
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:25:59 -
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omg ... the overview now reminds me of space invaders from 1979 ... this is absolutely horrible ...
someone took a corvette and turned it into a volkswagon. ack! |
gigX
Balkan Mafia Circle-Of-Two
6
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:26:20 -
[259] - Quote
CCP Claymore wrote:Panterata wrote:Hey Lebowski, who is responsible for the icons?
Tell him to write something here on the players and not hide as a mouse! That would be me and my team, Team Game of Drones. We are reading the feedback you are providing. All I can say at the moment is please take some time to get used to the new icons if this is the first time you are seeing them. It has been a while since they last changed, if ever, and it will take a while to learn them again. We are aware that the new icons do not look great with 90% UI Scaling. This is an issue we are looking at but is a bigger project due to the nature of UI Scaling. We are monitoring your feedback and will try and respond to your issues and concerns. Thank you for all your feedback so far.
The new icons are totally r e t a r d e d and it looks like I`m playing tetris now and not eve online. Is this copy/paste from world of tanks? (Is this Heavy Tank or Tank Destroyer?) What was wrong with old icons? (After 10+ years of playing this game you are changing something that still works and looks ok)
So whats next? Game will look like Minecraft? |
xSlaughtershy
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
4
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:27:16 -
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who the hell QA'd this? Fire this group of employees yesterday. |
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Slava Gagarin
Space Traffic Control
3
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:27:38 -
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Niraia wrote:I don't know what all these new icons mean. I don't see why I should have to learn them after using the old ones with no problems for 10 years.
please change back
people need old icons |
Miss Blueprint
BIueprints
3
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:28:44 -
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xSlaughtershy wrote:who the hell QA'd this? Fire this group of employees yesterday.
They just need to learn from their mistakes, and give us an option to change back |
Tyr Dolorem
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
75
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:29:26 -
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Was it bring your daughter to work day when you did pos mods?
http://i.imgur.com/HwVv8oA.jpg
Dear god... |
Draganica
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
0
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:29:55 -
[264] - Quote
I embrace change. Really I do. But the new overview icons are f***ing awful. |
Nightfox BloodRaven
State Protectorate Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:30:20 -
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my god... i almost got killed by a destroyer.. thought it was a mobile tractor unit was like why is that moving and locking me LMFAO LOL..
plz go back to bracket it was simple easy to use.. |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
114
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:31:09 -
[266] - Quote
CCP Claymore wrote:Panterata wrote:Hey Lebowski, who is responsible for the icons?
Tell him to write something here on the players and not hide as a mouse! That would be me and my team, Team Game of Drones. We are reading the feedback you are providing. All I can say at the moment is please take some time to get used to the new icons if this is the first time you are seeing them. It has been a while since they last changed, if ever, and it will take a while to learn them again. We are aware that the new icons do not look great with 90% UI Scaling. This is an issue we are looking at but is a bigger project due to the nature of UI Scaling. We are monitoring your feedback and will try and respond to your issues and concerns. Thank you for all your feedback so far.
Thanks for responding!
I'm also getting the feeling that it's not just at 90% that it's a problem, and even after some time, the testing folks still were not happy. We were actually given the same response during Incarna, concerning the unusable/unreadable UI icons then.
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Golemag
Deep Space Explorers Inc.
3
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:31:45 -
[267] - Quote
CCP Claymore wrote:Panterata wrote:Hey Lebowski, who is responsible for the icons?
Tell him to write something here on the players and not hide as a mouse! That would be me and my team, Team Game of Drones. We are reading the feedback you are providing. All I can say at the moment is please take some time to get used to the new icons if this is the first time you are seeing them. It has been a while since they last changed, if ever, and it will take a while to learn them again. We are aware that the new icons do not look great with 90% UI Scaling. This is an issue we are looking at but is a bigger project due to the nature of UI Scaling. We are monitoring your feedback and will try and respond to your issues and concerns. Thank you for all your feedback so far.
hey CCP Claymore, as a real world genius and a guy responsible for many improvements in the tech field in the past 20 years, take my 2 cents:
"Sometimes we lose objectivity while in process of bettering ourselves and our products. Inevitably, everyone comes to the point where we have to look back at the first step and see why we started it. Most of the time we come to realize that we didn't have to do anything at all. So you have a choice: - Keep looking forward for the potential of new customer base while leaving all your current customers to leave disappointed. - Step back and make sure you have your consumers on solid ground happy with your product. Then human nature always pushes us to look forward again, this time with new ideas and solid legacy. "
GÇ£Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.GÇ¥ |
Roy Stoneheart
Northstar Patrol
0
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:32:58 -
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Muahaha, continue crying about icon change gues. I love to see you cry and not actually do anythinga bout it but cry :D.
Let it sink - all the sudden they are good :D |
haralampijem
Fatal and The rabbit The G0dfathers
0
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:33:07 -
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The new icons are awful! |
Mark Onzolov
Revolution in Perfektion
0
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:34:32 -
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Hi,
the new icons are a no go for me, sry but on 90% UI-Scale i couldnt identify the icons.
Make an option in the settings for switching between old and new icon style and i believe all players will be happy
Fly safe
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