Please launch this soon so I can actually merge my characters and do what I actually wanna do in the game!
Thanks!

You've just shocked me. Having more than one characters and wont be able to do what you want?

Please launch this soon so I can actually merge my characters and do what I actually wanna do in the game!
Thanks!

If it went higher, then players would buy plex, use farms to convert them into extractors, and sell them at a profit. If the profit of that ever gets very high, there will be a rush to exploit the available profit. Supply will rise until the market gets flooded to the point where the price drops back down.

With that, as far as SPT mechanics are concerned. Has CCP considered that by introducing this feature that it may compete with +1 - +5 implants. As the whole purpose of those implants are to speed up SP training. This could make the implants redundant or obsolete, as pilots especially PvP pilots could see this as being risk averse impacting the volume of +1 - +5 implants being traded on the market. Don't confuse the multi-purpose implants where they will always have a place in Eve, well at least for now.

Also I think CCP have tried in the past to reduce or constrain the amount of scams that go one which has been one of the major contributors to tarnishing the games image. This would surely be one of the new scamming opportunity, and as CCP has verbally stated that this feature is targeted at the "new" pilots. This could compound the issue of disgruntled pilots leaving early as they have been scammed.

First scam could be that skill extractor is stated to be a skill injector, as both are going to be available on the market, a new pilot could easily be scammed to thinking its something that it's not. The other scam is the 4 different amount of skill injectors that will exist in the market will mean that pilots will easily be scammed with this as well.

So if CCP is so focused on the new pilot and there ability to fly ships through a purchase SP feature, how will they or have they put safe guards into the game to mitigate scammers from scamming the innocent?
If CCP's true intention is to enable and empower new pilots to ascending SP quickly or quicker than the currently available training mechanism in a safer - less scammed risk, than its fair to say this is not it.

I think the aim should be to reduce the scamming to new pilots will result in a reduction of new pilots leaving in droves, cause like us, new pilots don't or at least shouldn't mind dealing with SP as it is, versus being scammed and/or shot out of the sky's in high sec. - what game mechanics are being focused in that area of the game?

One last consideration, with a further introduction of a feature that is best utilised with real world money would favour players who earn an income. Every statistic that I've seen for the last 15+ years has shown that the largest market of mmo gamers is in the 13+ - 15+ year bracket. And we all know that they don't have an income but have to depend on there parents. Hence why there's a million more "free" to play games as apposed to a monthly subscription games. And please don't try to argue that I should look at WoW or FF with there subscription as we all know that there not even scratching the surface of just how many mmo gamers there are out there in the world. Just look at PS and Xbox to show the real market potential as every child's parent is happy to buy a console and a game to start with and evolve from there - no monthly subscription is required there.

So bring on more programmers CCP I wait with baited breath for more content quicker being rolled out.

They won't be redundant or obsolete, they will still be a viable option for passively speeding up your skill training, especially if you don't want to use this upcoming travesty on principle, but even if you do use it.

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The bazaar character transfer charge is arbitrary. I don't think the AUR injector price needs to show any consideration for what I think is pretty much a handling fee to keep transfers serious and make up the cost of time.

My guess was because in the devblog Rise(?) said that the extractor costs are comparable to the bazaar transaction fee ... ... BTW I did a mistake in my calculation above (nobody noticed ), so my guess for the extractor is 70-350 AUR. The value of 1/4 PLEX was for the raw skillpoints (PLEXed farming char) and already today people are trading chars below that threshold.

My guess was because in the devblog Rise(?) said that the extractor costs are comparable to the bazaar transaction fee ...

... BTW I did a mistake in my calculation above (nobody noticed ), so my guess for the extractor is 70-350 AUR. The value of 1/4 PLEX was for the raw skillpoints (PLEXed farming char) and already today people are trading chars below that threshold.

ItGÇÿs clear that itGÇÿs the will of the community to keep virtual goods sales outside the spectrum of what we classify as the "merit economy". That refers to skills gained over time or items that have a gameplay impact. So after discussions, designs, brainstorming and all sorts of processes weGÇÿve come up with a strategy that weGÇÿve already polished with the help of the CSM and would now want to present to the larger community.

Virtual goods sales in EVE Online will evolve through sales of vanity items, first in Incarna but later in-space features. The scope will be that anything that doesnGÇÿt affect gameplay directly can be, potentially, sold for PLEX or other means.

Dear Amarrian God in Heaven this thread is at 88 pages.

I feel like I represent a very small minority of forum users in that I don't have any opposition to this feature or suggestions to "fix" it.

As a new player into eve and using sites like EVE University Wiki, I have noticed that there are core skills Core skills. Why did you not just reimburse players with these skill points and give all new players 5'S in these? that is 81 - 120 days of remaps?
Or in an ark mission you would get skill injects for certain skills like jerry rigging instead of books.

Why are you penalising Old players if they extract points from their body and re-inject them shouldn't they get the full SP as it is theirs? Yes if it was from someone else it would be understandable that they get a penalised amount.

If you look at it this way. In real life your body accepts skin graphs better if it is from its own body. But if you get a skin graph from another body you have to take medicine etc to allow it to heal faster.

These skill points injectors should also have a time period, for example, a week that you have to use them unless it's sat on the market. this way experienced well funded players can't stock pile it waiting for new releases.

Skill Extractors may only be used by characters with at least 5,500,000 skillpoints.

Skill Extractor

This item can be activated in a station to grant the user unallocated skill points. Skill injectors are consumed immediately once activated.

The amount of skill points granted depends on the total skill points the using character possesses, according to the following scale:

Characters with less than 5,000,000 skill points will receive 500,000 unallocated skill points
Characters with between 5,000,000 and 50,000,000 skill points will receive 400,000 unallocated skill points
Characters with between 50,000,000 and 80,000,000 skill points will receieve 300,000 unallocated skill points
Characters with more than 80,000,000 skill points will receieve 150,000 unallocated skill points

Skill Injectors are created using a Skill Extractor

Please launch this soon so I can actually merge my characters and do what I actually wanna do in the game!
Thanks!

That minimum was probably set for the test server. I don't think it makes any sense to talk about how they benefit new players if you have to be here three months+ to use one.

given it's going to cost 500m minimum and up to 1bn to buy an injector...i hope you have plenty of isk saved!

You can't extract skills you don't have.

I think you are confusing extracting and injecting. I'm pretty sure you can inject skills on day one of a new character.

Mr Epeen

While I understand some of you that have played for years to obtain your skill points not wanting these injectors, I also sense some of you not wanting to level the playing field at all. The idea of new players being able to pay for someone elses time in game to benefit themselves and be more "difficult" to prey on.

Personally, I just want to be able to do the things I want to do in game with maximum efficiency. I want to max my scanning skills and stealth bomber skills. Nothing more. Right now, I get 120 dps with torpedos in a Purifier. I'm looking forward to be able to max some skills out from my alt characters.

I have a very old account (2004) but only have a little over 6million skills because for years I would come to eve, spend a week trying to learn something new about the game only to be roadblocked by the skill points over time system and then leave the game.

given it's going to cost 500m minimum and up to 1bn to buy an injector...i hope you have plenty of isk saved!

The ISK value of the skill points will be below 200mil due to the fact that skill farming will be appealing to anything around and above that mark.

300 mil per 500k of SP would effectively mean eve becomes free to play. I can't see that happening as many players such as myself pay the subscription to access the servers and not solely for the accumulation of SP.