Your logic (...) is dumb as hell, but thanks for playing.

What you're doing right now is justifying it by adding some variables to it going "well if CCP crosses THAT line then surely, I'll go do something about it". I don't, this is a massive turning point in EVE and simply a bridge too far. I'm not interested in the result of that nor the changes leading to that.

Well, i don't see many people blowing up monuments in Jita over this, so i guess it's been accepted by the masses.

[quote=Damjan Fox]The skill injectors can be bought in the New Eden Store with Aurum. PLEX can be converted to Aurum. That's why.

Actually, the skill extractors have to be bought with AUR. The injectors are player made by using a skill extractor to convert SP into an injector.

So demand for extractors will push AUR demand. As AUR can be bought with ISK, there should be no direct impact on PLEX prices. If the business model is working, PLEX prices should rather go down as more people shall buy PLEX with RL money in order to convert into ISK and buy injectors. This does of course not consider all the other factors that influence PLEX prices - so my prediction is that PLEX will decrease, increase or stay stable.

Actually, the skill extractors have to be bought with AUR. The injectors are player made by using a skill extractor to convert SP into an injector.

So demand for extractors will push AUR demand. As AUR can be bought with ISK, there should be no direct impact on PLEX prices. If the business model is working, PLEX prices should rather go down as more people shall buy PLEX with RL money in order to convert into ISK and buy injectors. This does of course not consider all the other factors that influence PLEX prices - so my prediction is that PLEX will decrease, increase or stay stable.

Right now the supply of Aurum on the market is tiny compared with the PLEX supply. If there's any demand for extractors at all (and lets face it there will be because a ton of people want rid of mining 5 for starters ...) then pretty much instantly people will have to switch to buying PLEX and converting them to Aurum. So it's very unlikely this will have no effect on PLEX prices.

Whether it gets compensated by people effectively buying skills for RL money remains to be seen. That might well happen. Or people might just rat/mine/whatever more to make more ISK and spend that on skills. But this feature doesn't take any ISK out of the game -- it just moves from person to person. It does take Aurum out of the game, meaning that it will remove PLEX from the game too and that certainly ought to make the price of it go up.

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How do you convert PLEX into AUR?

Market, Aurum tokens.

This is also why the "logic" some people use about how it can't be converted (and thus couldn't be used in rmt) are mistaken, either because they don't know how it works or because they're just doing their PR shill talks.

Yes, you can convert Plex into 3500 aurum (right click option)

Or you can buy Aurum directly with RL money ( https://secure.eveonline.com/AurStore/ , generally a better deal than going through plex)

My main concern stems from the "I have to pay how much to catch up?" reaction it may cause in some new players.

Actually this I knew. What I did not know, is that there is a direct conversion method as well (1 PLEX into 3,500 AUR) .
You learn something new every day even after years of playing.

And what you didn't learn today you can now simply buy tomorrow...

Answer the question. What am I winning? And how is another player being put at a disadvantage?

Removed a misfire post at the OP's request.

Can the extractors be used in space, so we can force someone to extract skills (as an example a mining skill) as a ransom? Will he eject from the ship once the skill to use his ship is gone? Would be really nice, thx

Yes, you can convert Plex into 3500 aurum (right click option)

Or you can buy Aurum directly with RL money ( https://secure.eveonline.com/AurStore/ , generally a better deal than going through plex)

And in case anyone is looking for my reaction:

I wasn't a fan when this was first brought to the CSM. I still have concerns over it, but I've been talking with some of the proponents (players) for the idea, and what they're saying has some merit. My main concern stems from the "I have to pay how much to catch up?" reaction it may cause in some new players.

I have 257 milliion skillpoints. I have played EVE for a very long time.

The only remaining sense of achievement i got from the game was the training.

I can live with having this feature for low SP characters to help them, but 100+ million SP characters really don't need anymore assistance.

What possible incentive to continue to keep an account open for training is there - when some rich idiot can come along and in a single day create a 500 million SP monster?

For me, that rips the heart out of the game. Guts it.

And for those that say there won't be any Jita riots over this - they are right. But that's only because when things die they die 'Not with a bang, but a whimper'.

Anything over 500 AUR would be a total fail IMO.

Would be funny but you'd need to hand them the extractor that's likely worth hundreds of millions of ISK first ...

And in case anyone is looking for my reaction:

I wasn't a fan when this was first brought to the CSM. I still have concerns over it, but I've been talking with some of the proponents (players) for the idea, and what they're saying has some merit. My main concern stems from the "I have to pay how much to catch up?" reaction it may cause in some new players.

How often does this need explaining and why does this need explaining in the first fcking place. How stupid are folks?

Characters bought in the bazaar come with a name, a history and choices in regards to skill training. You agree to buying that character then you agree to the whole package so changing ownership of that character does not change the basic "choices have consequences" core concept of EVE. The character remains as is.

The new system allows you to syphon SP from any character with any background and any training choices and then redistribute that as you please. None of the choices that character made is retained, it throws the basic concept of EVE overboard. So a) it's so close to P2W it's not even funny and b) it completely fucks with EVE's main concept.