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Serenity Steele Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Operations Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.10 10:21:00 - [1] There is now a preview available of the EvE Strategic Map Book. Pending final sign-off from the gods of EvE, It's fully ready to go to print. Please download the PDF preview of The Forge and Querious and give your opinion! The Eve Strategic Map book shows every region in Eve-Online translated into 2D, for Solo, Corporate and Alliance level players interested in PvP, NPC/Complex running, POS operations, Trade and Mining. See all resources a single page - Roids, Ice, Complexes, COSMOS, Moons, Stations Services, Sec Status 3D Overlapping jumps untangled into clear 2D layout Easily see routes, corridors, hubs, dead-ends and bottlenecks Each map includes strategically important systems from neighboring regions Orphaned constellations and connecting jumps included on main region map Original æNorth South East WestÆ orientation kept from flattened in-game map Grid Reference system for communicating locations on Voice comms Usable with the Revelations edition of EvE Online, the printed book will: Opens flat on your desk for easy reference while playing Coated paper enables write-on/wipe-off using pencil or dry erase marker Includes transparent stickers to mark new player outposts as they are built Look forward to hearing your considered opinions. /Serenity. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2007.03.10 10:25:00 - [2] If it is anything close to the one you showed me at the fanfest - it will be super and I'll def try get my hands on a copy. Help me help you .

RaWBLooD	Posted - 2007.03.10 10:32:00 - [3] I like interacting with people for that kinda info, and wont eve universe change too fast too quick for it to be worthwhile ??
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.03.10 10:39:00 - [4] Holy crap dude those are awesome. And isolating just a map of forge is sweet. I love you! I think the way the complexes are labeled or explained in the legend is a bit confusing though. Maybe just me. - - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - or automatic signatures - - - - - - - - "186,282 miles per second; It's not just a good idea, it's the law."
Jelek Coro Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.10 10:46:00 - [5] Difficult to read... too much is crammed in which hurts the eyes... I prefer Ombey's 2D maps.... very easy and doesn't leave you wandering what all the little symbols mean...
zykerx Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.10 10:53:00 - [6] liked the1 at eon magazine better easyer to read and this1 with all the symbols is rly confusing
William Hamilton	Posted - 2007.03.10 11:00:00 - [7] Why must the sec-status be written sideways? It took me a while to figure out what the symbols were, would be simpler and easier to read if they were right-way-up...
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2007.03.10 11:18:00 - [8] Originally by: Chribba If it is anything close to the one you showed me at the fanfest - it will be super and I'll def try get my hands on a copy. What he said.
Scilent Enigma Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.10 11:49:00 - [9] Really nice, would most certainly want a copy of these maps.
Lardarz B'stard Amarr Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.10 12:35:00 - [10] very sexy maps http://listen.cosmosradio.org:8000/live

Trypho Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.10 12:55:00 - [11] Nice work! This will come in very handy
Ombey	Posted - 2007.03.10 13:20:00 - [12] /me looks at my 2d maps. Looks at Serentity's. Throws mine in the bin. Nice one SS, looks very sexeh! I'll be buying one :) -- ombeve
Ma'lice Minmatar Sexa Inc	Posted - 2007.03.10 13:29:00 - [13] That is f'n Awesome. I can only imagine the amount of time you put into this project. This should definitely be added to the upcoming USER MANUAL, do to be released soon. IMHO. Originally by: Portios Smith 1 v 1 are like sex, be selective or catch a bug
ToxicFire Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2007.03.10 13:35:00 - [14] Nice Join the save Stargate SG1 Campaign Today! http://savestargatesg1.com/
Plasticine Perfection	Posted - 2007.03.10 13:36:00 - [15] Those are very, very nice! If only the new, seamless map could be made to look like that in-game Now, Serenity, could you log into EVE so I can exchange my ISSCA shares please?
Valarkin	Posted - 2007.03.10 13:36:00 - [16] Originally by: Ombey /me looks at my 2d maps. Looks at Serentity's. Throws mine in the bin. Don't you dare. I'd be lost without your clear, concise, printable and markable maps. These noew maps look nice, but for down home practical usefulness, I'll be sticking with Ombey.
Ma'lice Minmatar Sexa Inc	Posted - 2007.03.10 13:38:00 - [17] Originally by: Ombey /me looks at my 2d maps. Looks at Serentity's. Throws mine in the bin. I gotta argue that. Your map has saved me many ships many of times. And has saved me a lot of time in jumps when plotting long travels. (autopilot just doesn't do it well enough.) And I'm sure your pioneering was the basis that spawned this new awesome map. Originally by: Portios Smith 1 v 1 are like sex, be selective or catch a bug
Zaiyo Modi	Posted - 2007.03.10 14:08:00 - [18] Edited by: Zaiyo Modi on 10/03/2007 14:09:14 Here are my thoughts on the preview map: -dont like the sec status number tilted at a 90 degree angle -dont like the font used for the sec status, some numbers look like letters -having sec status written as .2 instead of 2 would look better imo -having complementary graphics indicating sec status would be nice imo, like a darker gray on the system names for 0.0 areas, and a lighter one for low sec and high-sec systems.
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.10 14:11:00 - [19] I have to agree with some of the above really, the Eve-Maps are slick but they are more often than not an information overload. For someone like me, who just prints off the regions they need and uses it as a reference, the Ombey maps are far superior. AND FREE! What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Elissen Amarr Feral Tendency	Posted - 2007.03.10 15:41:00 - [20] The preview you had with you at the FanFest looked awesome already, can't wait until I got myself a copy of the final. And the little things like stickers for marking new outposts are really usefull, it keeps your book up to date ---- ICSC Jumpplanner tool - Routeplanner for all jumpcapable ships!

Victor Valka Caldari Archon Industries	Posted - 2007.03.10 16:00:00 - [21] They look pretty nifty, I'll say that much. However, I prefere Ombey's maps because: a) I can scribble on them, b) Related to (a), I can print them in bulk. I do how this could be a must have for a hardcore EVE aficionado, tho. Originally by: Diana Marc Notice that BoB is agreeing with RA's concern. That's like Elrond and Sauron agreeing to reduce carbon emissions.
Ma'lice Minmatar Sexa Inc	Posted - 2007.03.10 16:25:00 - [22] Originally by: FireFoxx80 I have to agree with some of the above really, the Eve-Maps are slick but they are more often than not an information overload. For someone like me, who just prints off the regions they need and uses it as a reference, the Ombey maps are far superior. AND FREE! Yeah, I missed that part in the F.A.Q.: "> *When and where can I buy* the EvE Strategic Map Book?" exactly how much are you planning on charging for this? And is that gonna be ISK or RL money? The inquiring minds of the community would like to know Originally by:** Portios Smith 1 v 1 are like sex, be selective or catch a bug
Zoi Opia Oxide Academy	Posted - 2007.03.10 17:36:00 - [23] Nice maps! Would very much like to see them printed on glossy paper. :) Here's some suggestions: 1) Rotate the security status numbers either 90 degrees or, if you want them to be sideways for some reason, 180 degrees. It's more natural to turn landscape papers counterclockwise and portrait papers clockwise, at least for me. ;) 2) The yellow dots for complexes are a bit confusing. If you have more than one complex in a system it's difficult to see the exact amounts. Maybe you could use darker shade of yellow for those lower complex levels that are not present and brighter dots for those that are. That way you wouldn't have to subtract one from the dot count of every lower complex level possibly in the system. E.g. system with 2x3/10 & 5x10 complexes would have bright dot on 5, two bright dots on 3 and darker dots on 1, 2 and 4. 3) Start coordinate grid from top left or bottom left corner, not from bottom right. 4) Altough (or even because) the background is black, white is still a perfectly valid color to use in notation. 5) Increase the contrast between station/outpost background and security status number.
Bosie Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.03.10 17:40:00 - [24] Black background is bad is this will cost me a fortune in ink to print out. I'll be sticking with Ombey's maps for now thanks. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND." .
Tanis Bastar Caldari Interstitial Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.10 18:45:00 - [25] They look quite nice, but I don't like the black background. I have found Ombey's maps to be fully adequate (well actually, really awesome) and they probably offer all of the info that I really need. -BoB Delenda Est-
Johnathan Roark Caldari Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.03.10 22:33:00 - [26] I will probably be getting one depending on cost. The black background scares me as far as cost is concerned. The sec status being sideways is my only concern, basically you have to turn the map to read it easy. Do you have an estimate on how much its going to cost? $20, $30, $40, $50? Corporation Management Improvement
Halkin Locus Solus	Posted - 2007.03.10 22:34:00 - [27] nice
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.10 22:43:00 - [28] Eye candy is always nice, but competing with a 2-D/3-D integrated map with real-time statistics is a little tough. - If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine.
Sovy Kurosei Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.10 23:02:00 - [29] I can't see the sec status easily since it is sideways. You can barely make out the station services icons too. I think what would be better is to have different maps for different audiences. To a ratter or PvPer I don't have any interest in knowing if a system has ice or not. ___________________ Feel free to contact me in-game or join my public channel THERI-Public.
Treelox Amarr Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2007.03.10 23:13:00 - [30] Serenity, they look very sharp. Unfortunetly to me its more of a collectors item, and less useful to me on a day to day basis. Ombey maps, laminated with a grease pencil FTW, especially since these things change often. How do you plan to deal with changes to the map? Brand new additions every few months? I ask, since in the last year CCP has made changes on at least 4 occasions that have changed the map. -- FTEK \| Production ~ Research ~ Sales ~ Omber Zombie's Wet Work

Serenity Steele Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Operations Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.11 00:04:00 - [31] Good feedback so far, thank you! I'd like to give a little history on the maps development, to help understand how best to use them. Call it a retro-blog if you will :) Overall principle The overall principle of the design was prioritised: 1) Simplify the map of jumps so that key routes can be easily seen at a glance, while keeping the placement so that you could quickly find features on the 3d map and vice-versa. 2) Add systems 'out of region' that were really important - complexes, stations, refineries, short-cut routes across multiple regions etc. (There are 10+ systems from other regions on every map) 3) Provide as much data as possible without compromising 1), using symbols that enable to visually scan for the data. From a strategic standpoint, you need to short-list systems and constellations that are worth further research. Black Background = IG Map Feel The black background is for professional printing press, keep with the game map feel. It's not meant that people will be printing it on their home/work/copy centre printers. Rotated Sec Status The sec-status being sideways is the result of a design challenge. - In fast-paced 0.0 operations, it's important to see the routes and system name right, not sec status. - For finding NPC/mining locations, it's important to easily see the routes and sec status, not name of the system. If sec status is oriented in the same direction (or same font) as the names of the systems, then in all 0.0 space (or "number-plate land" as it's been called), it becomes slow to visually scan for system names and vice-versa for sec status. The 90 degree rotation was serendipity in a bug when rendering the maps once, but it was so effective at separating these two needs, is why it made it into the current version. It works very well on printed materials, not so well in a PDF! Please keep the feedback coming :) Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
Serenity Steele Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Operations Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.11 00:21:00 - [32] More retro-blog Game map changes Map changes in-game can be divided into three groups: Outposts Outpost Alert email and stickers cover these. Between expansion changes. These are small, effect usually 1-4 regions and (so far) focus on de-crowding around +1 sec systems and highways. If the change removes jumps, black permanent marker pen ftw. instructions will be on the web site. If the change is adding jumps around +1s, chances are they won't really be strategically important OR not on a map you'll use anyway. The yearly expansions (eg. Revelations) map-changes have a heavy effect -So realistically, the major patches would be cause for a new edition. However, the current average player plays EvE for 6 months. For us old-timers, if the regions you play are effected, it does yes mean getting a new edition. These are ofc. simply aspects of paper - but paper is cheaper than more screen-sapce on monitors Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
Elisa Day Survey Division Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.11 01:59:00 - [33] Edited by: Elisa Day on 11/03/2007 01:57:09 Very nice! I'm a really big fan of "information overload" myself, and these maps are lovely indeed. I really do think that tilting the sec status numbers is pointless though, I can't speak for how it will look when it's on paper, but on the screen it's just enormously irritating and confusing. Good job! EDIT: Nice touch on the grid squares, just saw them, maybe there should be very faint grid lines over the map? Right now it's very difficult to tell what systems belong to which grid square.
chrisreeves Gallente Asgard Protectorate Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.11 02:17:00 - [34] WOW, Serenity, for some reason I like this even more that the other preview I saw. Waiting for that "> Pre-order soonÖ" link to be clickable :) -----------------
Peri Stark Gallente Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.03.11 04:51:00 - [35] I hate black backgrounds on the computer, i sure don't want them on paper. The main use of maps like these is to plan movements. There is just to much stuff jammed on the map that you can take your time and get off the in-game map if you need it. I think I'll just stay with Ombey's maps. ================================================ Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!
Andargor theWise Collateral Damage Unlimited Insomnia.	Posted - 2007.03.11 04:55:00 - [36] Originally by: Ombey /me looks at my 2d maps. Looks at Serentity's. Throws mine in the bin. Nice one SS, looks very sexeh! I'll be buying one :) If you stop making your maps, I'll get your pod, wherever you are, CONCORD be damned. Save your pod. Make more maps. - Got grief? Revelations MySQL Database
Ombey	Posted - 2007.03.11 07:32:00 - [37] Originally by: Andargor theWise If you stop making your maps, I'll get your pod, wherever you are, CONCORD be damned. Save your pod. Make more maps. I'll keep doing them, I was just commenting on how nice SS's are. And now I'll get out of his thread, never to return -- ombeve
Serenity Steele Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Operations Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.11 10:02:00 - [38] Ombey! No need to skip the thread - given the traffic exchange between our cross-linked mapping sites, there is a definite different needs for different people. Together we just make more total happy players Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
Mortania Minmatar Carbide Industries Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.03.11 10:42:00 - [39] Clearly you've put a ton of work into these. They do feel a little over produced, now though; when compared to the original EON ad. I was hyper pumped about the maps when that add came out. These feel too cluttered. As for the sideways numbers, clever solution to the problem. I'd contend that outside of 0.0, low, high that the vast majority of people don't care about the exact sec status and it would leave you more room for describing the station. Right now the tiny black pips on a black background almost completely disappear. That said, I'd pay good money for these if they came with a soft copy that allowed me to remove or append data as was useful to me. ---
Laboratus Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.03.11 11:06:00 - [40] It takes a while to learn to read that map. But, it's ok. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats

Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.03.11 11:36:00 - [41] What you're saying about putting the sec status sideways makes a lot of sense, but it's a compromise that doesn't suit everyone. Maybe just use color, no numbers, or some other non textual symbol like a pie diagram (1 slice per sec point). Personally all I care about when it comes to sec is whether its under 0.5 or 0.0 anyway. - - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - or automatic signatures - - - - - - - - "186,282 miles per second; It's not just a good idea, it's the law."
Aero089 Exiled.	Posted - 2007.03.11 11:50:00 - [42] Oh come on, why Querious?! You're giving the enemy an advantage here! Your signature is too coo so we nerfed it.
Barbicane Minmatar The Gun Club Zzz	Posted - 2007.03.11 12:59:00 - [43] Oh, I really want one of these maps. Any idea of what the price will be? My only concern is about the readability for the big regions like Domain or Metropolis. Are they still squeezed onto just one page? Any chance of getting a preview for one of those regions?
Serenity Steele Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Operations Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.11 16:08:00 - [44] Edited by: Serenity Steele on 11/03/2007 16:09:36 Originally by: Johnathan Roark I will probably be getting one depending on cost. The black background scares me as far as cost is concerned. The sec status being sideways is my only concern, basically you have to turn the map to read it easy. Do you have an estimate on how much its going to cost? $20, $30, $40, $50? The printing company quotations I gathered indicate <=$20 using high-quality printing and coated paper based on a fixed pre-order minimum run :) The final price and print quality will be up to CCP. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes The OSS	Posted - 2007.03.11 17:03:00 - [45] Edited by: DrAtomic on 11/03/2007 17:01:23 Looks cool, however.... I'd put some more spacing between the complex and belt indicator, it's hard to see now even in the PDF form and will be less readable in printed form. Also i'd like to see a mineral indicator for everything up from and including omber. Ow and another print concern, please make it so that they are easy flipable and make page references to exit systems. ----------------------------------------------- My Top 10 List
Sable Lowell Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.11 17:15:00 - [46] Originally by: Bosie Black background is bad is this will cost me a fortune in ink to print out. I'll be sticking with Ombey's maps for now thanks. If I understand correctly, this maps are for sale as a book, not to be printed out.
Xenofur Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.11 18:55:00 - [47] will make them more expensive, but i'd suggest putting some of the extra info on seperate transparent plastic overlay sheets and make the ring binder you seem to use such that people can open it and change stuff around, thus basically creating maps that contain the info they need.
Barbicane Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.11 19:06:00 - [48] Originally by: Xenofur will make them more expensive, but i'd suggest putting some of the extra info on seperate transparent plastic overlay sheets and make the ring binder you seem to use such that people can open it and change stuff around, thus basically creating maps that contain the info they need. I thought about that too, but let's face it - it's probably going to make the end product much more expensive. I'd be willing to pay approx $30 for the way it is now (provided quality is good) or perhaps $35 with those transparent overlays. I doubt the extra $5 will cover the added costs though. What about you? -- I'm looking for a new corp
Valarkin	Posted - 2007.03.11 19:51:00 - [49] Originally by: Serenity Steele Ombey! No need to skip the thread - given the traffic exchange between our cross-linked mapping sites, there is a definite different needs for different people. Together we just make more total happy players Just so. I guess I kinda forgot to mention how cool I think yours look Serenity. As has been said before though, I think of your format as more a coffee table book (or would that be glossy religious tract: Have you found Eve?) than a keep it on the desk for 'work' kinda thing. It just occurred to me that really, you are offering the Atlas while Ombey is offering the AAA route planner maps. It might be that those classifications could serve as a useful statement of differentiation between the projects. The glossy print format you are using means that any changes to the universe will require a new printing run to incorporate. The same holds true for any errors or omissions in the editorial or printing processes. This then limits its usefulness as a route planner or tactical tool. An atlas tends to contain more static and historic information: political boundaries, census data, economic data, natural resources, landmarks, political information, things like that. I know that I would be much more interested in buying an annual atlas which showed the changes and activities of the previous year and all the information that Ombey's maps now do not or cannot show. Anyhow, didn't mean to write a book....great job, both of ya.
Xenofur Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.11 19:54:00 - [50] Originally by: Barbicane What about you? Just throwing suggestions out. I wouldn't pay cash for tools that exist only to display complex data, but are in no way or form customizable anyhow.

SeismicForce Clear Horizon Industries	Posted - 2007.03.11 21:49:00 - [51] The maps look very nice, a lot of work been put in there. Only problem that I can forsee is that CCP might change more systems, jumps and belts around in their "Need for Speed" project. How are these changes going to be dealt with? Another little thing, it would be good to note the out-of-region destination system's security level, there are quite a few high -> low sec jumps that could pose a problem for the unwary. Keep up the good work

Deckard Bishop Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.03.11 22:00:00 - [52] i use Ombey's maps at the mo..... but i will be getting the book as well, i am impressed :) does take a bit of time to learn to read it.... but i guess i will learn!!!! forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website! Contact Support - Report Bug - Join ISD

Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.11 22:47:00 - [53] The only thing I wish was different......was that the damn book was on my desk now instead of "soon (tm)". Excellent work here...and on the mailing list, the outpost info is excellent as well. Ubuntu 3d-Linux Desktop+EVE
Serenity Steele Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Operations Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.12 01:01:00 - [54] Originally by: Laboratus It takes a while to learn to read that map. But, it's ok. The trick is to know what you want you're looking for. It's not necessary to memorise the entire legend. Think of a scenario eg.; I want a low-sec system with loads of asteroid fields in a dead end and a refinery = So look for red circles, with low numbers and big arcs on the right, and a station nearby with a dot in the 'top-left' position. (or) My corp wants to build an refinery outpost somewhere with low moon count = Look for systems with a long arc on the left, with high numbers in grey systems. (or) I want to NPC and run complexes in low-sec = Look for bright-yellow complex indicators in red-circled systems. (or) I'm running from some empire war guys = Look at the systems and ways they connect, can you throw them off with a loop around through different gates rather than autopilot courses? etc. Reading Station Services The dots are alphabetical in clock-wise direction starting at 12 o'clock; Clone, Factory, Lab, Refine. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
Bull Frog Amarr Great Roid Union N Transport Co. The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.03.12 22:50:00 - [55] Good God thats alot of work put into it I will give you that, but for me its just too involved to be of quick reference value, I mean thats what all this is about isnt it... speed. I can look up on multiple sites the info I need that you have here and some that you don't, in less time than it takes me to decode your system. It might be worth it to take a step back and say "Why am I making this all so complex?" Also color codes work wonders when you use more than just a few. Still alot better than I could ever come up with.
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2007.03.13 02:15:00 - [56] Cheers :) Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
Shaner Amarr	Posted - 2007.03.17 00:25:00 - [57] oO awesome maps
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 00:35:00 - [58] Hmmm, looks funky and all, but not the top dog for me. The fact it can't be home-printed (black back ground), and that it'll cost money, go fundamentally against my instinct that all things pertaining to the internet should be free. Further, it's lack of customizability (due to the fact you just buy a print, and don't have the source material) is a big kkiller for an EVE map. In terms of usability, I still prefer Ombey's venerable old maps. The black back ground, while nice, would make it impossible to write on and annotate (if you'd dream of annotating something you've paid for). The information overload makes it more difficult to use in a hurry, too, which is the only purpose in a hard copy map; if I had 10 minutes to look something up, I'd use the even-more-detailed online resources. That said, if the price is right, I still might buy it as a collectors item --------
roBurky StateCorp	Posted - 2007.03.17 01:31:00 - [59] I was excited about these maps way back when the preview was in E-ON, and have been ready to order ever since. But this latest version in the preview PDF is a little disappointing. Why is sec status represented as symbols? It's not going to be much use for planning out a starbase location or picking a ratting/mining spot if the truesec isn't easy to read. ---
Armin Novastorm Gallente I-Omniscient-I	Posted - 2007.03.17 02:24:00 - [60] Originally by: Ombey /me looks at my 2d maps. Looks at Serentity's. Throws mine in the bin. Nice one SS, looks very sexeh! I'll be buying one :) Nooooo@}!\|\|\|@$*($&( I like yours!

Serenity Steele	Posted - 2007.03.17 11:07:00 - [61] Thanks for the feedback. As a result of your collective comments, the following changes will be made to the maps: - Complex indicators simplified (particularly for multiple complexes) - True Sec Status rotated back to vertical position - Map grid labelled Left to right (reverse of current order) Originally by: roBurky Why is sec status represented as symbols? It's not going to be much use for planning out a starbase location or picking a ratting/mining spot if the truesec isn't easy to read. Sec status is represented as numbers, not symbols So it is indeed useful for planning a starbase location, picking a ratting/mining spot etc. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.03.17 11:07:00 - [62] Thanks for the feedback. As a result of your collective comments, the following changes will be made to the maps: - Complex indicators simplified (particularly for multiple complexes) - True Sec Status rotated back to vertical position - Map grid labelled Left to right (reverse of current order) Originally by: roBurky Why is sec status represented as symbols? It's not going to be much use for planning out a starbase location or picking a ratting/mining spot if the truesec isn't easy to read. Sec status is represented as numbers, not symbols So it is indeed useful for planning a starbase location, picking a ratting/mining spot etc. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
Sadao Minmatar Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.03.17 11:44:00 - [63] I just love them. I think you have done an awesome job. HOW MUCH LONGER!!!!!GRRRRRrrrr
Sadao Minmatar Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.03.17 11:44:00 - [64] I just love them. I think you have done an awesome job. HOW MUCH LONGER!!!!!GRRRRRrrrr
Ral Ulgur	Posted - 2007.03.17 12:41:00 - [65] Nice work! I'd love to see the color code for constelletion and region jumps changed though. IMO region jumps should be in red lines and constellation ones maybe in a shade of blue. That's just me though. Also I would like an appendix with more detailed infos of systems sorted by region listing things like 'true sec status' and 'number of moons' asteroids available etc...
Ral Ulgur Eve guardians R i s e	Posted - 2007.03.17 12:41:00 - [66] Nice work! I'd love to see the color code for constelletion and region jumps changed though. IMO region jumps should be in red lines and constellation ones maybe in a shade of blue. That's just me though. Also I would like an appendix with more detailed infos of systems sorted by region listing things like 'true sec status' and 'number of moons' asteroids available etc...
pulsarite Gallente Point-Zero Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.18 17:40:00 - [67] Just wondering, since these are going to be published in the middle of one of EVE's greatest wars, whether their will be enough Outpost stickers? If you have noticed this notice then you will notice that this notice should not be noticed. Alex Karp > "You are a maniac puls."
Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.03.18 17:47:00 - [68] Originally by: pulsarite Just wondering, since these are going to be published in the middle of one of EVE's greatest wars, whether their will be enough Outpost stickers? Should be, the rate of construction of new outposts has been rather slow since the wars started. Lots of change of ownership, but few new builds. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
ED Grubermann Boot To The Head	Posted - 2007.03.18 22:12:00 - [69] looks really great... only thing that worries me is when changes happen. They add more systems, or they change jump routes to reroute traffic from overloaded nodes... or new stations pop up.. or they might decide to move complexes... but it looks really great.. if i had visa, i would definately buy it...
Ikki Phoenix Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.18 23:07:00 - [70] Very nice,I like what I saw. Since I am still kinda new,I have a hard time reading it,but from the little I understand,it is very clear and easy to read for me. Two questions: 1.If I got this right,it would be a book of maps,correct?if that is the case,how are players are going to update their maps when maps do change and such? 2.You said it would cost around $20/copy.Are you planning on doing a promotional discount?Like lets say the first 100 get 10% off or something? And when do you expect the maps to be ready?

Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.03.19 00:44:00 - [71] Originally by: Ikki Phoenix 1.If I got this right,it would be a book of maps,correct?if that is the case,how are players are going to update their maps when maps do change and such? Answered here Originally by: Ikki Phoenix 2.You said it would cost around $20/copy.Are you planning on doing a promotional discount?Like lets say the first 100 get 10% off or something? The volume required to get the price down requires pre-order already. What CCP chose to use for a pre-order encouragement is up to them. It may be as simple as there will only be a limited # printed. Originally by: Ikki Phoenix And when do you expect the maps to be ready? The maps are ready to print. We're all waiting on CCP to put the pre-order up. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.03.19 00:59:00 - [72] So... will they be available in the shop here on eve-o? That would be marvellous. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Ikki Phoenix Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.19 03:36:00 - [73] Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: Ikki Phoenix 1.If I got this right,it would be a book of maps,correct?if that is the case,how are players are going to update their maps when maps do change and such? Answered here Originally by: Ikki Phoenix 2.You said it would cost around $20/copy.Are you planning on doing a promotional discount?Like lets say the first 100 get 10% off or something? The volume required to get the price down requires pre-order already. What CCP chose to use for a pre-order encouragement is up to them. It may be as simple as there will only be a limited # printed. Originally by: Ikki Phoenix And when do you expect the maps to be ready? The maps are ready to print. We're all waiting on CCP to put the pre-order up. Thank you for the response How about something like "if you buy the book,any major additions can be printed".CCP can control that thru the account system
Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.03.22 06:49:00 - [74] Originally by: Ikki Phoenix Thank you for the response How about something like "if you buy the book,any major additions can be printed".CCP can control that thru the account system I'll pass on the suggestion Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
Phelan Lore Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.22 07:09:00 - [75] It's sort of confusing how you can't see systems in other regions when they are between systems in the same region. You should show systems in other regions, but have them greyed out. -
Zoi Opia Oxide Academy	Posted - 2007.03.22 07:45:00 - [76] Originally by: Serenity Steele As a result of your collective comments, the following changes will be made to the maps: Is there going to be a preview version with these changes included?
Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.03.23 07:29:00 - [77] Originally by: Phelan Lore It's sort of confusing how you can't see systems in other regions when they are between systems in the same region. You should show systems in other regions, but have them greyed out. I'm not quite sure what you mean. Would you mind giving an example system name to help me work out what you're refferring to? Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.03.23 07:31:00 - [78] Originally by: Zoi Opia Is there going to be a preview version with these changes included? Yes! I'll publish an announcement as soon as the new set is rendered. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
Phelan Lore Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.23 20:59:00 - [79] Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: Phelan Lore It's sort of confusing how you can't see systems in other regions when they are between systems in the same region. You should show systems in other regions, but have them greyed out. I'm not quite sure what you mean. Would you mind giving an example system name to help me work out what you're refferring to? Like if you are flying from Jita to Taisy (both in the forge), the fastest route takes you out of the forge through that empty area on your map. -
Lemen Meringue Cult of Lemen	Posted - 2007.03.23 21:51:00 - [80] Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: Zoi Opia Is there going to be a preview version with these changes included? Yes! I'll publish an announcement as soon as the new set is rendered. Hope it isn't too late to remove the newly removed ice belts from the maps. Looking forward to a book of good maps.

Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.03.24 10:35:00 - [81] Originally by: Phelan Lore Like if you are flying from Jita to Taisy (both in the forge), the fastest route takes you out of the forge through that empty area on your map. Ok I see what you mean. Taisy is actually in Lonetrek, and the constellation is included on the Forge map, because it's 2 jumps through to Tribute. Taisy (LoneTrek) << On Forge Map Already Nalvula (LoneTrek) << On Forge Map Already Jan (LoneTrek) Autaris (LoneTrek) Vellaine (LoneTrek) Alikara (The Citadel) New Caldari (Forge) << On Forge Map Already Jita (Forge) << On Forge Map Already ofc. It's a balance between keeping the maps legible, and covering important routes. The route you highlight is also a short-cut from Jita to Tribute, which is important, so thanks for the tip :) Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
Sharcy Sonnema	Posted - 2007.03.24 10:58:00 - [82] Originally by: Ombey /me looks at my 2d maps. Looks at Serentity's. Throws mine in the bin. Please don't, I prefer yours --
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.03.24 11:13:00 - [83] It looks great, but why dont you make it a website instead so you can update it and also let people access it from everywhere? It would also make navigation easier etc. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune
Zartmann XUKRUT United Corporations of Eve	Posted - 2007.03.24 12:38:00 - [84] Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: Ombey /me looks at my 2d maps. Looks at Serentity's. Throws mine in the bin. Please don't, I prefer yours Don¦t u dare to commit this unspeakable sin! IMHO, there a partnership merge here to be made hint. Originally by:* Jim McGregor It looks great, but why don't you make it a website instead so you can update it and also let people access it from everywhere? It would also make navigation easier etc. /Signed 100% Make it so, the buyers got VIP Access to it, enabling to fully download updates, corrections. And of course on-line viewing... the key here would be adding aggregated value to your already excellent product. BTW, what about trowing also a cool color marker pen into the package? /me will definitely got one as soon as it available. My focus CNR version Svenstaro¦s Caldari Fleet 1280x1024 Wallpaper
Tinwan Sonomura	Posted - 2007.03.26 13:28:00 - [85] I love the preview, yes it may take a little getting used to because its new but it is great! Please CCP, get this approved so we can get our long awaited copies! Rashid Starfury
Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.03.27 20:52:00 - [86] Originally by: Tinwan Sonomura I love the preview, yes it may take a little getting used to because its new but it is great! Please CCP, get this approved so we can get our long awaited copies! Rashid Starfury Cheers, keep more posts like that coming! Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - System Sovereignty - Alliance Rank
Castelo Branco Caldari Eye of God X-PACT	Posted - 2007.03.28 19:24:00 - [87] Edited by: Castelo Branco on 28/03/2007 19:20:56 OK CCP. Get the clearence for it. We are waiting a long time to get the printed map. Serenity, some estimated time arrive? I really, really want to buy it. PS: You ship to South America, right?
Rhaegor Stormborn	Posted - 2007.03.28 19:38:00 - [88] I think I will purchase your book when it becomes available.
Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.04.01 08:12:00 - [89] Originally by: Castelo Branco Edited by: Castelo Branco on 28/03/2007 19:20:56 OK CCP. Get the clearence for it. We are waiting a long time to get the printed map. Serenity, some estimated time arrive? I really, really want to buy it. PS: You ship to South America, right? New set of proofs Fed-ex to CCP this week. Then I'll know more. Looking at the webstores, both CCP and Whitewolf ship to the entire planet Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - System Sovereignty - Alliance Rank
Janice Forge House Ordos	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:06:00 - [90] make them a little bigger and a little more space between the items.... perhaps a set of sub numbers for NPC stations/outposts? like in the bottom left of each have a Planet #, moon # ? or something? they could be color coded for type if needed....

Fzoul Steel Frontier Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:23:00 - [91] What is the feasibility of being able to purchase the PDF version such that we could then print them out in a larger-scale format (assuming the PDFs are of a high enough resolution)? Regardless, they are very nice and I look forward to being able to purchase them.
Chuck Tucker	Posted - 2007.04.02 23:44:00 - [92] OMG, eve-o SHOP again ??? May I ask you if there will be possibility to order from other place ? PLEASE provide alternative internet shop other than EVE-O. Those lazybones honky mafas would screw up during shipping and charging process everything disposed to screwing up and even go beyond it, constantly opening new horizons of making things lame. I dont want to have business with them unless i really forced to. Sry.
cptgone	Posted - 2007.04.12 09:11:00 - [93] DLed the PDF Preview and I love it. One thing i'd like to see added: Station Services should include R&D/manufacturing etc. slots. Looking forward to buying the book :)
Nerogk Shorn Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2007.04.12 17:11:00 - [94] Edited by: Nerogk Shorn on 12/04/2007 17:13:25 I do really like these maps. Once you learn the system they can be referenced very quickly. Although they have more information than ombey's maps, the lack of curvey lines makes it easier to read. Are there curvy lines like ombey's map in other regions (that may require them). One change I would like to see is that the ice symbol changed. I really love how you can scan the region and see exactly where the high sec and low sec pockets are. The blue circle outside the sec color circle makes it much harder (at least on the pdf). I can still read the sec circle color, but I have to look at it. If, instead, I scan the entire region, I see Blue, Green, and Red pockets when Blue actually consists of Green and Red. It just makes quick reference a lot harder in that area. Edit: One thing I noticed, about Ombey's maps that I also liked is the low-to-high sec jump indicator. It's simple and if small enough it doesn't destract from the rest of the map. It makes it easy for us pirates to make sure we don't get concorded. yarr D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
Best	Posted - 2007.04.14 23:45:00 - [95] would love one of these, looks frickin great
Dal Thrax Caldari Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2007.04.15 00:11:00 - [96] What's the eta on this? Looks cool but it's been in the coming soon stage for awhile now. Dal Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed. delaying startup again. soon as i have time i will fill you in on the details
Castelo Branco Caldari Eye of God X-PACT	Posted - 2007.05.05 18:24:00 - [97] Well, well, well... 20 days pass and no word about ETA time or something else (change or improvements). News? Please.
Taketa De Gallente Seneca Federation Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.07 01:02:00 - [98] Must say I really like this idea and the execution. One thing I would have loved to make this better (more expensive tho) is a layered approach. Between each 2 map pages there is also a transparent plastic "page" that has additional info on it like the complexes and roid and stuff. You can lift it to see the base map or lower it to allow the base map + additional info. This would have 2 advantages: 1. It would keep the base map from getting crowded by making some of the information optional and so maybe allow more information or in an easier to read/clearer way. 2. It would allow writing on with the correct markers that can be wiped again. One could make notes, strategic markings, etc... but remove them again later. The big downside of course would be an increase in price and it would have to be a more exact manufacturing process since the map and the plasic page would have to line up pretty precicely. Anyway, GJ on doing this --- The Advanced Drone Control Panel.
Kain IV Caldari Advanced Security And Asset Protection	Posted - 2007.05.07 01:26:00 - [99] I'm growing more and more anxious about these maps being available. Is there anyway we could get some sort of update?
Larno Gallente Avatars of Doom Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.05.07 01:55:00 - [100] Really good but I think the colour you use to denote ice presence is really poor. ---------- "Whining gets you stuff, that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."

Urubu	Posted - 2007.05.07 16:29:00 - [101] I've been looking for something like this. It looks very sleek. Also the sticker sheet to somewhat cope with dynamic content is a good idea. Great work. May I suggest some improvements for readability though? -The blue for systems with ice should show more contrast to the blue for system connection lines. Make them brighter or a different color altogether. -Blips for station facilities are hardly readable. Black on dark grey? White or another bright colour allows people to glean information much quicker. It will also easily show station presence in a system. -The way you handled complexes and asteroid presence is a simple yet elegant solution. Only problem is that they are superimposed, thereby affecting clarity a little bit. Not a biggie, still thought I'd mention it. -It would be nice if you would implement gridlines, make them very thin, perhaps also dark as they're not so vital for referencing to. Placing the lines shouldn't be too hard as you already have the basis for the tile structure. I imagine moving the systems into their proper grid when overlapping the lines is quite a female dog. It makes it easier for those communicating to to look up the systems you're talking about. Keep it up and please finish it SOONer. Urubu
Duke Val'Doom	Posted - 2007.05.13 10:07:00 - [102] One thing I could think of that would make adding updates a little easier would be to print these out on note book sized cards that you can just slide in and out of those plastic paper protecters that go in 3 ring binders, then if a system changes all someone needs to do is order the card for the effected area, or buy cards for new regions added. Could also use a grease pencil to make our own notations for info we think is more important such as changes to systems and such, and to ink out jumps that get taken away/added at other times. Anyways, just my thoughts. Map looks great! :-)
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.05.13 10:12:00 - [103] Looks fantastic, but black background makes my printer eat ink. Maybe have a white background? Not sure how that would look. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune
Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.05.17 23:37:00 - [104] Thanks again for the more feedback. I agree on the station indicators - they need to be fatter and easier to see. Bringing up contrast on the station service indicators and same for the ice will both be done. The original background was a colour like a screen-shot of the cloud/gas formations you see in some systems. The reason for the mid-tone colours was to enable viewing against that. Since going for a pure black background, there is nothing stopping going for a higher-contrast (or "bring the brightness up") now. So what's happening with the maps? Well 2 preview printed books were sent out at the start of May. One to Oveur, and one to the CEO of CCP \| White-Wolf North America. The phone call I had with Oveur last week, he said it's good to go (ie. creative approval). White-Wolf are responsible for publishing - they've been investigating reducing printing cost via printing in USA / China, which has taken since February. I keep pushing it along ... Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - System Sovereignty - Alliance Rank
tropic28	Posted - 2007.06.04 08:09:00 - [105] maps look fab all right when can w have the full download?
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2007.06.04 08:20:00 - [106] This looks RAD :D I'd love a copy. _________________ Burn.
Wiggly Jiggly	Posted - 2007.06.04 08:57:00 - [107] If these are for sale I suggest this thread be locked and the user warned about promoting a business enterprise. Even sales for ISK would violate the EULA. If not, expect me to try and sell some nick nacks I have around here in these forums. Seems all I have to do is slap a EvE sticker on a old toaster and call it a Megathron Toaster to skirt the EULA if this user gets away with this activity.
Drakar Verge Black Star Trading	Posted - 2007.06.04 12:12:00 - [108] Edited by: Drakar Verge on 04/06/2007 12:12:37 Like everyone else.. 1) make the sec status at a 0degree angle instead of 90 or 270, whichever that is 2) have a white bg version possible? i dont care b/c i will be printing it at work
Bentus Kushani	Posted - 2007.06.04 12:18:00 - [109] Oh, full book, PLEASE. This is incredible! Excellent work.
MotherMoon	Posted - 2007.06.05 08:45:00 - [110] Coated paper enables write-on/wipe-off using pencil or dry erase marker... I love you

Flump Amarr Renegade Traders	Posted - 2007.06.05 12:27:00 - [111] yer nice job, once you know what the symbols mean that matter to you it seems pretty straight forward. could of done with this years back.
Mikal Drey Purgatorial Janitors Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.05 15:09:00 - [112] hey hey Firstly; nice work. just a few Q's 1) Price ? 2) What makes your product better than the compeition ? 3) with the removal or static asteroid belts and other updates isnt the printed book version already out of date before it hits the doorstep ? 4) you are offering 300mil for Language Translation help. Considering you are/wll potentially be making RL cash from it do you thnk that is a little on the cheap side ? 5) Will updates/changes make reprinted editions and what price will they be offered at ? 6) again Good Work its this kind of community suport that makes eve so great :)
Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.06.05 21:31:00 - [113] Edited by: Serenity Steele on 05/06/2007 21:31:11 Originally by: Mikal Drey hey hey Firstly; nice work. just a few Q's Cheers. 1) Price ? Up to CCP at the moment. Waiting on them for publishing. Less than it cost me to colour laser-print the example review copies ;) 2) What makes your product better than the compeition? Well, both have 3D Overlapping jumps untangled into 2D layout I would suggest EvE Strategic Maps' unique points are: Maps + Easily see routes, corridors, hubs, dead-ends and bottlenecks + Original æNorth South East WestÆ orientation kept from flattened in-game map + Each map includes strategically important systems from neighboring regions + Orphaned constellations and connecting jumps included on main region map Usability + Opens flat on your desk for easy reference while playing + Grid Reference system for communicating locations on Voice comms + Grid Reference displayed in ICSC Jumplanner results for easy locating for cap ships + Coated paper enables write-on/wipe-off using pencil or dry erase marker Quality + Visually in-line with the EvE-Online universe + Professional Press print quality + All data, jumps etc. computer validated against the EvE-Online database + My Avatar is a Sexeh redhead 3) with the removal or static asteroid belts and other updates isnt the printed book version already out of date before it hits the doorstep ? The map layout is most important. The asteroid count is just bells and whistles. Outposts have stickers to place in the maps. 4) you are offering 300mil for Language Translation help. Considering you are/wll potentially be making RL cash from it do you thnk that is a little on the cheap side ? I think the equivalent of a 90 Day GTC and getting some stardom in your language sub-community is reasonable for a pretty short translation list. Besides, it's all I can offer atm, and I'm grateful to the people who were willing to help. 5) Will updates/changes make reprinted editions and what price will they be offered at ? It depends entirely on how popular the first edition is as to whether there will ever be a reprint. Maybe it will be only limited edition. The source graphics files I keep up to date with the latest changes in EvE. 6) again Good Work its this kind of community suport that makes eve so great :) Cheers :D Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Syril Mert Dawn of a new Empire Pure.	Posted - 2007.06.05 22:10:00 - [114] Depending a bit on price, but I would probably buy them. Nice for collecting, but I'm also getting tired of the paper sheets flowing all over my desk and never finding the right one when I need it quick :)
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.06.05 22:22:00 - [115] Been waiting for one of these since I saw the 'prototype' at fanfest last year.
Mosic	Posted - 2007.07.02 21:30:00 - [116] I'd love to pre-order this, it's a real step above any other 2d maps available at the moment.
Ash Vincetti Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.07.02 21:43:00 - [117] I would definitely be interested in a pre-order as well, should that help speed the process along. ----- free bree!
Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.07.09 18:15:00 - [118] Originally by: Mosic I'd love to pre-order this, it's a real step above any other 2d maps available at the moment. Originally by: Ash Vincetti I would definitely be interested in a pre-order as well, should that help speed the process along. Yes, pre-order will speed the process along, good to know there is interest in pre-ordering. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Eudare Meswime	Posted - 2007.07.12 01:29:00 - [119] Love it, When will it be available? Comeon, I need it now !!
Eudare Meswime	Posted - 2007.07.12 01:41:00 - [120] OH, Forgot, of course I want to see the full book. But, I really want the glossy write on desktop version. I'm using Ombeys printed on my printer for now, but this is exactly what I want. Come On, I need it NOW !!! Thanks for the work.

vr0p Gallente Hatori Mining Services	Posted - 2007.07.12 02:05:00 - [121] Originally by: "Ombey" /me looks at my 2d maps. Looks at Serentity's. Throws mine in the bin. Nice one SS, looks very sexeh! I'll be buying one :) Please don't. I prefer yours, which have more intuitive symbolism, and I get eye strain with white text on black background.
Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.07.22 22:18:00 - [122] Originally by: Eudare Meswime OH, Forgot, of course I want to see the full book. But, I really want the glossy write on desktop version. I'm using Ombeys printed on my printer for now, but this is exactly what I want. Come On, I need it NOW !!! Thanks for the work. Thanks to each of you for your feedback. Based on all the comments, I've refreshed the preview download and legend to the current prototype version; - Sec Status is now rotated to vertical orientation - Complexes are shown more simply Also there is a segment on EvE TV which has some video of the prototype. Some more improvements are due before launch with the goal being to release around FanFest. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Shin Ra Origin Unknown.	Posted - 2007.07.23 00:58:00 - [123] I was fortunate enough to have a look at the prototype at the Den Haag meet on Saturday and I must say its very very impressive.
Serenity Steele Rearden Steele	Posted - 2007.07.23 22:24:00 - [124] Glad you like it :) Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
An Anarchyyt Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.07.23 22:28:00 - [125] Originally by: Eudare Meswime OH, Forgot, of course I want to see the full book. But, I really want the glossy write on desktop version. I'm using Ombeys printed on my printer for now, but this is exactly what I want. Come On, I need it NOW !!! Thanks for the work. This is what I do too. But I can't wait for this printed version.
minercolbra	Posted - 2007.07.29 05:22:00 - [126] NK YOU THANK YOU looking forward to ur finished product ------
FarScape III	Posted - 2007.07.29 06:33:00 - [127] I'd buy it just for the nastalga of it, how much? I know you would need to charge a good amount of shiping, like 5$ or something, i would pay abought 20$ I would think. ad maybe another fee for updates and extra single pages. but I do not have any debt so I'm lucky and might want to pay less if I had like allot of debt on credit cards or something. A Minmater City... Cool! My Skills
Nig C	Posted - 2007.08.14 22:35:00 - [128] Hello! I like this Map and will buy a printed version. Maybe download-able to print it by my own. Don¦t know if U allready talked about this point. I was to lazy to read the whole topic. In the lower left corner of the map, there is a symbol which shows the Corp of the rats. It would be nice if near the symbol, the dealt dmg and the dmg i should deal were marked. happy EVEing
Kitrij	Posted - 2007.08.24 19:46:00 - [129] Originally by: Johnathan Roark I will probably be getting one depending on cost. The black background scares me as far as cost is concerned. You don't pay for the ammount of ink used, when printing professionally. You pay per plate. As the strategic maps have so many colours, it probably won't be printed in PANTONE colors, but in CMYK color, which is four plates (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black)
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution	Posted - 2007.08.25 08:35:00 - [130] Originally by: Kitrij You don't pay for the ammount of ink used, when printing professionally. You pay per plate. As the strategic maps have so many colours, it probably won't be printed in PANTONE colors, but in CMYK color, which is four plates (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black) Yes, this is the reason for using a professional printing press: To keep the EvE look and feel, and keep the cost down. Once using a printing press, the main thing that reduces cost is the volume of the print run. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank

Nihn Lemai	Posted - 2007.08.25 11:21:00 - [131] Originally by: Nig C It would be nice if near the symbol, the dealt dmg and the dmg i should deal were marked. I dont think its a good idea to try to jam any more info into these maps. I, for one, dont find them confusing... yet. But were close to the boiling point.
Castelo Branco Caldari The Undertakers Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.09.13 12:09:00 - [132] Litle bump.. Almost 1 year from the fist post and no word about ETA. Some news?
Vishous Port Royal Independent Kontractors	Posted - 2007.09.16 20:15:00 - [133] Originally by: Serenity Steele Some more improvements are due before launch with the goal being to release around FanFest. That would put it about a 45 days left before they hope to have it ready. I hope they do, because I'll certainly be on the preorder list as soon as it's available.
Richard Colfax	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:59:00 - [134] Absolutely awesome, depending upon the price I would also be very interested in getting this. Seems like an invaluable tool for sure
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution	Posted - 2007.09.17 00:18:00 - [135] Originally by: Vishous Originally by: Serenity Steele Some more improvements are due before launch with the goal being to release around FanFest. That would put it about a 45 days left before they hope to have it ready. I hope they do, because I'll certainly be on the preorder list as soon as it's available. It's been ready to go to print for 12 months, all the delay is waiting on CCP \| White wolf. You know how it goes .. CCP merged white wolf, then the guy assigned to do sign-off moved to the states, then white wolf moved offices, then they wrote the pretty coffee-table book, then .. sigh That said, it will be released within the next 45 days regardless of glacial movements in Iceland. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Boomx	Posted - 2007.09.17 07:57:00 - [136] A must have... can't wait to buy one.
Inosin Caldari Stardust Heavy Industries	Posted - 2007.09.22 08:53:00 - [137] Hope i will get my fingers on one soon.
DoanEven Meswime	Posted - 2007.09.24 18:48:00 - [138] Edited by: DoanEven Meswime on 24/09/2007 18:50:52 In March it was ready for print, waiting on EVE Gods to wave and say "It is Good!" What is happening? When will we be able to order? -- Oh, logged on just to say this then I scrolled up and saw the 45 day post. Creeping eternity Batman, will it ever happen?
Boomx	Posted - 2007.10.09 22:54:00 - [139] Sweetheart, just give it to us already. Name your price...!
Bacci Galu Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.10.09 23:49:00 - [140] Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: Kitrij You don't pay for the ammount of ink used, when printing professionally. You pay per plate. As the strategic maps have so many colours, it probably won't be printed in PANTONE colors, but in CMYK color, which is four plates (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black) Yes, this is the reason for using a professional printing press: To keep the EvE look and feel, and keep the cost down. Once using a printing press, the main thing that reduces cost is the volume of the print run. My family owns a DTP Printing facility here in australia, i used to help manage it back before i ventured off into my own thing...anyways.. Binding is where they sting ya price wise...pending the binding method u choose ( i assume ring, as you state it will lie flat). Printing itself is rather cheap provding they dont have to stuff around with your artwork (bleeds, colours (ie convert to cymk) ect)... On topic Nice job Maker of thy sig Yes i do make sigs, banners, corp logo's ect...

Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2007.10.11 19:22:00 - [141] Cheers. I've been testing a digital print facility in the USA that also enables doing single A3 maps as well as the book, and the quality is excellent, so will probably stick with that. If you know of one in Australia, it'd be beaut if you could EvEmail me the URL :) /Serenity. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Cyril RABBLE-RABBLE Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.10.13 15:39:00 - [142] Originally by: Serenity Steele It's been ready to go to print for 12 months, all the delay is waiting on CCP \| White wolf. You know how it goes .. CCP merged white wolf, then the guy assigned to do sign-off moved to the states, then white wolf moved offices, then they wrote the pretty coffee-table book, then .. sigh That said, it will be released within the next 45 days regardless of glacial movements in Iceland. Almost a month has gone by from this post. Still no press release, blog, notice, or any other word from CCP... I'm guessing the glacial movements struck again or we'd have work on a date by now... Just wondering if there is any updated information. Really looking forward to getting a copy. insert witty sig here.
False Myrm Minmatar F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2007.10.13 18:01:00 - [143] Originally by: Wiggly Jiggly If these are for sale I suggest this thread be locked and the user warned about promoting a business enterprise. Even sales for ISK would violate the EULA. If not, expect me to try and sell some nick nacks I have around here in these forums. Seems all I have to do is slap a EvE sticker on a old toaster and call it a Megathron Toaster to skirt the EULA if this user gets away with this activity. Except it's being published by CCP smart guy.
False Myrm Minmatar F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2007.10.13 18:15:00 - [144] Originally by: Cyril Originally by: Serenity Steele It's been ready to go to print for 12 months, all the delay is waiting on CCP \| White wolf. You know how it goes .. CCP merged white wolf, then the guy assigned to do sign-off moved to the states, then white wolf moved offices, then they wrote the pretty coffee-table book, then .. sigh That said, it will be released within the next 45 days regardless of glacial movements in Iceland. Almost a month has gone by from this post. Still no press release, blog, notice, or any other word from CCP... I'm guessing the glacial movements struck again or we'd have work on a date by now... Just wondering if there is any updated information. Really looking forward to getting a copy. Well, the thing about glaciers is they move very, very slowly... FalseMyrmidon of TW Fame
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2007.10.17 22:55:00 - [145] Originally by: False Myrm Well, the thing about glaciers is they move very, very slowly... Yep. A little too slow given the "need for speed". Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Vishous Port Royal Independent Kontractors Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2007.10.21 19:02:00 - [146] Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: False Myrm Well, the thing about glaciers is they move very, very slowly... Yep. A little too slow given the "need for speed". I believe that a boost is needed to get CCP, white wolf, and however else you need confirmation from to move this priority up. cough cough goon style cough cough Sorry, something in my throat there. But seriously, CCP and the other I don't think realize the importance of this, and need a fire lit under their rear to get it signed. Granted, it could be that they are just overly busy with rev3, but I don't see the issue with why White Wolf hasn't gotten back to you yet, nor do I see what will delay CCP anymore after FanFest. I hope they get back to you shortly Serenity Steele.
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2007.10.22 22:40:00 - [147] Edited by: Serenity Steele on 22/10/2007 22:44:11 You don't mean a .. [queue dramatic music] .. Threadnought? If people really want to support, there welcome to post "i want one" on this thread. Thanks to those of you who that have already done so earlier! Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Oniko Sengir Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2007.10.22 23:16:00 - [148] I want one!
JudasMac Minmatar NYIT Gangstaz SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.23 04:24:00 - [149] Edited by: JudasMac on 23/10/2007 04:24:50 DYAMN! I WANT IT BAD!
Zek Flint	Posted - 2007.10.24 08:07:00 - [150] I want one. Was wondering if you could possibly include damage types that the pirates do in each region as well??? Thanks.

Castelo Branco Caldari The Undertakers Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.10.25 14:18:00 - [151] I want it, and I want it NOW!!! And YES for NPC damage type.
Willow Whisp Sadist Faction	Posted - 2007.10.25 14:20:00 - [152] STILL WANT ONE!!ONE!!!1ELEVENTY!!!11! ... [center]
Devon Vorberg Gallente Miles From Nowhere	Posted - 2007.10.25 17:54:00 - [153] I have been sitting in Iraq all year waiting for you to offer these for sale so I can have something besides E-On to sate my EVE appetite when I'm stranded from the internet for a few days/weeks. If you need more "I want one" from people in order to get this project finished, I hope this works! Cheers! Devon Vorberg
Dkorg	Posted - 2007.10.25 18:51:00 - [154] Originally by: Ombey /me looks at my 2d maps. Looks at Serentity's. Throws mine in the bin. Nice one SS, looks very sexeh! I'll be buying one :) Don't you dare. I prefer yours. I find them easier to read. Plus you can write on them.
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2007.10.25 22:21:00 - [155] Originally by: Devon Vorberg I have been sitting in Iraq all year waiting for you to offer these for sale so I can have something besides E-On to sate my EVE appetite when I'm stranded from the internet for a few days/weeks. If you need more "I want one" from people in order to get this project finished, I hope this works! Cheers! Devon Vorberg Thanks. The more "I want one" the better :) Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.10.25 22:49:00 - [156] I'm interested. -- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today!
Montaire Genbuku. Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.25 23:11:00 - [157] Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: Devon Vorberg I have been sitting in Iraq all year waiting for you to offer these for sale so I can have something besides E-On to sate my EVE appetite when I'm stranded from the internet for a few days/weeks. If you need more "I want one" from people in order to get this project finished, I hope this works! Cheers! Devon Vorberg Thanks. The more "I want one" the better :) I want one, and so do 20 or so people in my corp. Serious - this is gold.
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2007.11.01 00:26:00 - [158] Edited by: Serenity Steele on 01/11/2007 00:29:24 I've just printed off a pack of region maps in A3 format for people at Fanfest to check-out, with the goal of having the book orderable and downloadable from the website around the 15th November. If you sign-up on the web-site, you'll receive an email as soon as it's available. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Vishous Port Royal Independent Kontractors Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2007.11.03 11:22:00 - [159] You have no idea how much this is pleasing. EVE-O forums will not allow me to express such emmotions. But yes, glad we have a date to look forward to. If it's not to much of a request, after fanfest, if we can get a few scans on the eve-maps website so thous of us unable to make it to fanfest can drool on our keyboards instead over the uberness which is the eve-maps. Don't worry Ombey, we still love your maps.
Ombey Obsidian Inc. KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.04 09:25:00 - [160] Originally by: Vishous Don't worry Ombey, we still love your maps. People either use them or they don't, it's no problem. I love what Serenity has done though, a properly printed map is a great idea. I'll be buying one for sure. -- 2d EveMaps

Imperius Blackheart Caldari Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.04 21:43:00 - [161] I love Ombey's work, and use his maps often, but for ease of use a flip book would be great, i'd buy one. http://www.myspace.com/cakeisalie
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.11.04 21:49:00 - [162] Originally by: Imperius Blackheart I love Ombey's work, and use his maps often, but for ease of use a flip book would be great, i'd buy one. I agree, except I still can't decide if I'd buy this or not, as I'd just put Ombey's maps in a binder. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Danalog STK Scientific Black-Out	Posted - 2007.11.07 06:27:00 - [163] They looked even better this year than they did last year, I'm definitely buying a copy when it comes out!
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2007.11.12 01:46:00 - [164] Originally by: Danalog They looked even better this year than they did last year, I'm definitely buying a copy when it comes out! Thanks :) Received a lot of good feedback on the maps at Fanfest. Having pasted a number onto the Jita tables, it was interested to see the ones Goonswarm stole from the BoB table. Just waiting on the test-print to come back now. If all good when it arrives (1-2 weeks), a message will be sent to all eve-maps subscribers, letting them know where to order. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Adam Weishaupt Minmatar Pyrrhus Sicarii The Church.	Posted - 2007.11.12 03:02:00 - [165] Looking awfully good. Much will depend on the price, but you've done a marvelous job, and that comes from a lifelong cartophile - you manage to display a large amount of information in a way that only took me about a minute to absorb. Very nice, and attractive as well.
Ikki Phoenix Gallente The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.12 03:18:00 - [166] Looks great I will for sure get one.But how would updating works?
Thoo Rau Gallente Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.11.15 11:51:00 - [167] It's really a good job. If I can, I would have your book, to see all the universe of eve :) [URL=http://www.kernelofwar.com/forum][IMG]http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/9476/thoorau
Shinhan Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.11.15 12:00:00 - [168] Originally by: Ikki Phoenix Looks great I will for sure get one.But how would updating works? From the FAQ: Quote: > How can I keep my book updated when new outposts being built? At the back of the book you will find a sheet of stickers, which you can stick over systems as outposts are built. Sign-up to the Outpost Alert! for the updates via email. A list all outposts built in chronological order will also be shown on this site once the book is released. To make it easy, there will be a little feature where you just count the number of stickers you have left (or have used) and it will tell you the new outposts to mark. -- Selling apples, 1 signature each. ѼѼѼѼѼѼѼ
lady2isis Caldari Philae Temple	Posted - 2007.11.16 07:32:00 - [169] i would definately buy this!! be it real cash or isk! really need something as good as this. although i would love to have an actual laminated book, but the idea of updates or expansion of new systems by CCP kinda bugs me. so IMHO, an e-book account with perhaps additional features like a personal website for the user to write personal notes or even for corps to use these maps to plan hauling routes or attack plans. but no matter what, im in :) i am who i am; therefor i am Her
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2007.11.16 07:51:00 - [170] Been eagerly waiting for this since I saw it at fanfest a year ago. C'mon, gief. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? GMP and TNP

Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2007.11.16 13:11:00 - [171] Thanks for the feedback! Discussions at Fanfest gave this more momentum with CCP. Will keep you all up to date as I know more. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Serena Hennessy Koshaku Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.19 02:06:00 - [172] I Want One :) And next time, the bree is on me :)
Haargoth Agamar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.19 02:27:00 - [173] Want badly!
Windryder New Fnord Industries Black Scope Project	Posted - 2007.11.19 07:58:00 - [174] I want one. Please.
Yosarian Hand Of The Tahiri Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.11.19 09:25:00 - [175] For your next project, how about 3d-region maps made from those little chemistry molecule plastic bits? I want Molden Heath hanging from my ceiling :) Just release the d**m maps already!
Reticenti The Antilles Legion Quantum Star Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.19 09:26:00 - [176] yes plz
Alex Harumichi Gallente Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.11.19 09:48:00 - [177] Looking good, I'll definitely buy a copy or two.
solosnake Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.11.19 10:02:00 - [178] I want (at least) one.
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.19 10:15:00 - [179] Been on the waiting list since pretty much the beginning. I will be using both this and ombey's 2d maps. The updated pdf is looking really good. Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE
Viro Melchior Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.20 01:45:00 - [180] Edited by: Viro Melchior on 20/11/2007 01:53:52 Edited by: Viro Melchior on 20/11/2007 01:51:02 I want one!!!!!!!!!!!111!!1 Originally by: Ombey Originally by: Vishous Don't worry Ombey, we still love your maps. People either use them or they don't, it's no problem. I love what Serenity has done though, a properly printed map is a great idea. I'll be buying one for sure. The only thing I don't like about Ombey's maps is that they are confusing when you try to reference them versus the in-game map. I personally will have a copy of each map, since I can keep printing Ombey's ones out if I need to change something I've written in. I'll use SS's maps for running fleets - I have an alt logged on on my 2nd monitor with the in-game map visible for searching for highlights like active players, plus SS's map on the desk for quick reference on names, routes, and easy comparison to the 2nd monitor. And I'll keep Ombey's printouts on hand for jotting trade routes down, recording POS/moon info onto, and so forth. Two VERY excellent contributions to the community. SS's is "nicer", but also represented more effort and actually going through a formal publishing. Ombey's has all the info you need at a glance, and is easier to read, and has serious advantages with it's white background and printability. Also SS, make sure to make available additional stickers for order, as I guarantee down the road people will start to run out unless you put in 200 extra stickers for outposts beyond what's already built ;)

Sovereign533 Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.11.20 02:55:00 - [181] hi mate... ;) you know i do... =) remember? that dutch collective guy from fanfest =D
Marcus Davonsure Fairlight Corp FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.11.20 19:41:00 - [182] Edited by: Marcus Davonsure on 20/11/2007 19:42:29 I want one, no two. Please, please, please
Lofaro	Posted - 2007.11.21 14:46:00 - [183] When? "Soon" can't come soon enough.
Trypho Minmatar Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.11.21 15:44:00 - [184] I can`t wait for it to be released! \o/ News/Contenteditor EVEZone.nl & MMOZone.nl
Puke The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:58:00 - [185] I want one here
Argus Sirius	Posted - 2007.11.25 16:36:00 - [186] I wanna have one too, please!
Ex0101 Gallente Malicious Intentions The Church.	Posted - 2007.11.25 16:53:00 - [187] These would make christmas shopping for everyone so much easier! Need!! --
dor amwar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.25 18:36:00 - [188] Originally by: Ombey /me looks at my 2d maps. Looks at Serentity's. Throws mine in the bin. Nice one SS, looks very sexeh! I'll be buying one :) o.0 dude, please don't stop yur maps. they are great.
Nostravinci	Posted - 2007.11.30 09:12:00 - [189] Edited by: Nostravinci on 30/11/2007 09:11:48 I need your love... ... maps so bad, SS Wouldn't it also be an option to provide buyers with some kind of key they can use to download a digital version of the maps? I don't want to mess up the book too much (as it will be worth loads of money in 30yrs), so a digital (pdf) copy would be more than welcome. For people like me with two monitors, it's an ideal solution.
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2007.12.02 22:48:00 - [190] Originally by: Nostravinci Edited by: Nostravinci on 30/11/2007 09:11:48 I need your love... ... maps so bad, SS Wouldn't it also be an option to provide buyers with some kind of key they can use to download a digital version of the maps? I don't want to mess up the book too much (as it will be worth loads of money in 30yrs), so a digital (pdf) copy would be more than welcome. For people like me with two monitors, it's an ideal solution. I think I have a solution to this one, place the digital version in 4:3 ratio. Do you think that would solve it? Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank

Denour	Posted - 2007.12.19 04:58:00 - [191] Are these done yet? Now? ...now? I can has map? Please?
kestrael nanahara	Posted - 2008.01.07 01:04:00 - [192] I want one
Cyril RABBLE-RABBLE Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.10 06:21:00 - [193] I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on one of these books. Can we get any type of update on the progress? They were ready to go to the printer almost 2 months ago. SoonÖ is starting to get frustrating... insert witty sig here.
Cyril RABBLE-RABBLE Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.10 06:26:00 - [194] I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on one of these books. Can we get any type of update on the progress? They were ready to go to the printer almost 2 months ago. SoonÖ is starting to get frustrating... insert witty sig here.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.01.10 06:35:00 - [195] I'm starting to think this isn't ever going to happen :( pink supporter! Future art director at CCP! or texture guy, either or :P http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Drop Was in class with these folks :P
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.01.10 18:41:00 - [196] It will happen. Read the last line of text in the EON Issue #010 Advert Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.01.10 19:01:00 - [197] Originally by: Serenity Steele It will happen. Read the last line of text in the EON Issue #010 Advert not to be mean but EON 3 said factional warfare was happening years ago. and EON 9 said it would be out right before trinity. but I will keep my eyes open :) right along with the that eve movie those guys are making and the eve homeworld mod. pink supporter! Future art director at CCP! or texture guy, either or :P http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Drop Was in class with these folks :P
Vishous Port Royal Independent Kontractors Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2008.01.11 15:42:00 - [198] I believe at what is happening is that Serenity is going threw a lot of red tape right now with CCP and its other partners on this. Thou the sooner this gets done the better, because I'm sure ppl right now are starting to loose interest due to the amount of time it's taking.
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.11 16:52:00 - [199] I prefer the 2d Ombey maps. Free and a great resource. Thanks Ombey! Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Rusty Scissors	Posted - 2008.01.15 18:19:00 - [200] Just wanted to make a comment (it has probably already been said but oh well): The system security level is extremely difficult for anyone who is red-green colorblind to read.

Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.01.16 01:59:00 - [201] Originally by: Rusty Scissors Just wanted to make a comment (it has probably already been said but oh well): The system security level is extremely difficult for anyone who is red-green colorblind to read. Actually I don't think it's been mentioned before. Do you have any suggestions that would make it easier for color blind players? How do you deal with this in the game client, when looking at security status? Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
xergher	Posted - 2008.01.17 10:46:00 - [202] Starting to wonder if it will be out before the next expansion, Revelations was mentioned start of the thread, Trinity is now running, by the time it's available it may be out of date.
Lil'Red Ridin'Hood Snake Assault	Posted - 2008.01.17 11:08:00 - [203] Edited by: Lil''Red Ridin''Hood on 17/01/2008 11:08:28 Originally by: Serenity Steele Actually I don't think it's been mentioned before. Do you have any suggestions that would make it easier for color blind players? How do you deal with this in the game client, when looking at security status? There's an article on this topic right here. To make it short, this should help in most cases: Quote: One way to avoid confusion is to alter the lightness and darkness of the colors. The color-blind person may still see the same color, but they can tell that the areas colored with these colors are different.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.01.17 11:16:00 - [204] anyone remember that funny troll that said these maps were unfair and a legal issue? rofl good times.
Anhammerad	Posted - 2008.01.17 11:56:00 - [205] When will it be out? How much will it cost?
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.01.18 19:21:00 - [206] Originally by: xergher Starting to wonder if it will be out before the next expansion, Revelations was mentioned start of the thread, Trinity is now running, by the time it's available it may be out of date. Actually, it's constantly updated ready for release. I'm working on Trinity version (of both the site) and book at the moment. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.01.18 19:22:00 - [207] There's an article on this topic right here. To make it short, this should help in most cases: Quote: One way to avoid confusion is to alter the lightness and darkness of the colors. The color-blind person may still see the same color, but they can tell that the areas colored with these colors are different. Thanks very much for the information! Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Krima Sumyungi Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.01.18 21:01:00 - [208] Originally by: Terminus adacai I prefer the 2d Ombey maps. Free and a great resource. Thanks Ombey! Same here. Book is just a money grab, and offers nothing other than novelty value, as its info will be outdated soon after it's published.
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.19 08:48:00 - [209] Alliance ranking with station updates etc. Any idea on when that is gonna be updated? It used to be pretty quick now but I think it's almost months now. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
FingerThief Gallente	Posted - 2008.01.19 09:36:00 - [210] Edited by: FingerThief on 19/01/2008 09:36:19 Originally by: Krima Sumyungi Same here. Book is just a money grab, and offers nothing other than novelty value, as its info will be outdated soon after it's published. For some it's about it being usefull ... for me ( and others ) it would be about novelty value. I have boxed versions of EVE in shrinkwrap, t-shirts, caps, glasses, keychain ... you name it. It has EVE as content or logo ? I will most certainly get it. FT

Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.01.21 04:32:00 - [211] Originally by: Fred0 Alliance ranking with station updates etc. Any idea on when that is gonna be updated? It used to be pretty quick now but I think it's almost months now. Alliance ranking is running daily again. Outpost Alert resumes weekly service next Sunday :) Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - Sovereign Systems - Alliance Rank
Max Essen Gallente Serenity Engineering and Transport Company deadspace society	Posted - 2008.01.24 14:29:00 - [212] Awsome work done on this. I did not find it too cluttered at all. Actuakly, once I got the hang of the key, it was quite easy to focus in on the items I wanted to view. Of course, I want the printed version as I will enjoy the updates and making my notes. Looking forward to gettingmy hand on this soon. Real Men Structure-Tank
Cyril RABBLE-RABBLE R-I-P	Posted - 2008.02.09 02:45:00 - [213] Originally by: Serenity Steele It will happen. Read the last line of text in the EON Issue #010 Advert Well... EON says its available for pre-order but the eve store shows nothing. CCP seems to have failed again. ----------------------------------------- insert witty sig here.
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.02.09 19:25:00 - [214] Originally by: Cyril Originally by: Serenity Steele It will happen. Read the last line of text in the EON Issue #010 Advert Well... EON says its available for pre-order but the eve store shows nothing. CCP seems to have failed again. I thought the EON #10 (Don't have it one yet) Said ... "available for pre-order soon in the EvE-Online store." But yes, it will be sold through the EvE-Online Store . We're waiting for the pre-order capability to be set-up. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps - Outposts & Sov - Alliance Rank
Cyril RABBLE-RABBLE R-I-P	Posted - 2008.02.09 19:58:00 - [215] Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: Cyril Originally by: Serenity Steele It will happen. Read the last line of text in the EON Issue #010 Advert Well... EON says its available for pre-order but the eve store shows nothing. CCP seems to have failed again. I thought the EON #10 (Don't have it one yet) Said ... "available for pre-order soon in the EvE-Online store." But yes, it will be sold through the EvE-Online Store . We're waiting for the pre-order capability to be set-up. Add says soon, article says now. I posted after reading the article and before I made it to the add. I was just hoping that pre-order was up so that we could at least get the price... ----------------------------------------- insert witty sig here.
Jamie Hara Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.10 02:53:00 - [216] Wow, that's really nice. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Ash Vincetti Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.02.10 03:23:00 - [217] I eagerly await the pre-order announcement ----- free bree!
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.02.13 19:04:00 - [218] Originally by: Cyril Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: Cyril Originally by: Serenity Steele It will happen. Read the last line of text in the EON Issue #010 Advert Well... EON says its available for pre-order but the eve store shows nothing. CCP seems to have failed again. I thought the EON #10 (Don't have it one yet) Said ... "available for pre-order soon in the EvE-Online store." But yes, it will be sold through the EvE-Online Store . We're waiting for the pre-order capability to be set-up. Add says soon, article says now. I posted after reading the article and before I made it to the add. I was just hoping that pre-order was up so that we could at least get the price... Me too! ≡v≡ Strategic Maps - Outposts & Sov - Alliance Rank
Tataki Wisako Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold	Posted - 2008.02.14 12:25:00 - [219] I love two-dimensional out of game maps when navigating through space or scouting an area. The preview of your maps certainly looks pretty, but to be honest these maps convey less information and are harder to read than Ombey's Maps. You also seem to waste a lot of available space on each sheet while having very small icons for each system, which are too close to each other. Sorry, not buying them. :( The one thing i do like better is that your maps have a black background.
Castelo Branco Caldari The Undertakers Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.02.16 11:26:00 - [220] Bump.. Not at EveStore yet, despite what say E-ON magazine. Some ETA?? I really would like to buy it..

Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.02.16 13:47:00 - [221] Originally by: Castelo Branco Bump.. Not at EveStore yet, despite what say E-ON magazine. Some ETA?? I really would like to buy it.. I'm relucant to give an ETA until I know that the EvE-Store is all set to go (IIUC some changes need to be made for adding PayPal). To save jumping back to this thread, you can subscribe for email notification when they're ready :) ≡v≡ Strategic Maps - Outposts & Sov - Alliance Rank
Sleepkevert Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.16 23:22:00 - [222] Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: Castelo Branco Bump.. Not at EveStore yet, despite what say E-ON magazine. Some ETA?? I really would like to buy it.. I'm relucant to give an ETA until I know that the EvE-Store is all set to go (IIUC some changes need to be made for adding PayPal). To save jumping back to this thread, you can subscribe for email notification when they're ready :) Eve store with paypal? And with awesome maps? This just made my day _ Sign my sig!
Dalmau	Posted - 2008.02.17 15:21:00 - [223] It's amazing! Much better than the rest of Eve maps I've ever seen! Thx for all that work and hope to see the rest soon!
Koldz Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2008.02.26 20:46:00 - [224] Well. I like the look of this a lot. There are a few things I would have done differently, but.. its a toss up. Printing out the quite good Ombrey maps, (which are awesome as well) and laminating them and binding them... best case at Kinko's is 170 US for the lamination alone. Closer to 350 if I have them printed there). Or.. buying this. Since my wife will throw pots and pans at me if I spend 350 bucks for a game book, looks like I am waiting on this. I do have a second monitor.. but I would like to have something I can lay out on a table and LOOK at. Hopefully its out soon. Look forward to being able to buy it. Koldz
Vishous Port Royal Independent Kontractors Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2008.03.06 20:57:00 - [225] Just saw an advertisement when I first turned on eve advertising EON with big letters "EVE STRATEGIC MAPS". Anyone get eon that can enlighten us about what it's about please? And does CCP plan on giving any date on when it will be available in their store?
Scorpius Scar	Posted - 2008.03.06 21:12:00 - [226] Yeah I'd like to know what MORON decided to advertise a product that deosn't exist yet. Way to go! you might as well have made it a dead link. No new news on this.
Cyril RABBLE-RABBLE R-I-P	Posted - 2008.03.06 22:53:00 - [227] That add got me all happy and ready to order... at least it should be sooner rather then soonÖ at this point. ----------------------------------------- insert witty sig here.
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.03.06 22:59:00 - [228] Originally by: Scorpius Scar Yeah I'd like to know what MORON decided to advertise a product that deosn't exist yet. Way to go! you might as well have made it a dead link. No new news on this. Guess that makes me a MORON, of galatic proportions I'd put the ad into the latest EON, not sure how fast things would go. All EON ads make their way to the eve login screen. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps - Outposts & Sov - Alliance Rank
Zapatero	Posted - 2008.03.06 23:07:00 - [229] Serenity Steele's Strategic Map book was advertised via the in-game splash screen, as are all ads that appear in EON. Assuming no disasters befall those brave souls tasked with updating the EVE Store site, the book should be available for pre-order next week. (My diary says 14th). Publication will follow fairly soon after, but we also have a magazine to send to print in the next two weeks, so the schedules are well inked at this point in time. Final decisions are being made with regard to things like grammage, which also impacts on the postage costs, but we'll have all that decided soon enough and everything will go in an official news story as soon as every 't' is crossed and 'i' dotted Thanks for being patient. - Z EON \| blog
Serena Hennessy Koshaku Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.06 23:13:00 - [230] I've been waiting for this for a long time, especially after seeing the samples at the fanfest! Can't wait to see it in the mail, glad to hear the pre-orders are coming soon; I'd like to be one of the first :) Thanks for your continued hard work at getting this out to us, Serenity; the anticipation is killing me!

Vishous Port Royal Independent Kontractors Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2008.03.08 13:04:00 - [231] A very positive response that I very much look forward too pre-ordering this weekend.
CptEav1s Gallente	Posted - 2008.03.10 18:13:00 - [232] I've just looked over the site and the preview that is currently avaliable, I actually did a little something like this myself without all the detail just for poping in and out of 0.0, very helpful. The only problem I seem to have with this map book is that I think your trying to pack far too much information into each map, I've looked over the legend and I am hard pressed to make sense of what half of it means, hope this is not the case when it comes out because I think alot of people might find the same problem. Cheers - CptEav1s Sarge "Hey, Grif chupathingy how bout it? I like it got a ring to it" I BRAKE FOR PUMAS!
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey	Posted - 2008.03.10 18:57:00 - [233] What?! Not everyone uses Ombey's Maps which are free? I had no idea. ;)
Cygnus Scott Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.10 19:19:00 - [234] Originally by: Ombey /me looks at my 2d maps. Looks at Serentity's. Throws mine in the bin. Nice one SS, looks very sexeh! I'll be buying one :) No way man. I like your maps. Printer friendly, not too hard to figure out, and very very useful and also important FREE! Your work really is appreciated by those in the community, even ones that look like "!"s and are relatively new.
Idara Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.10 20:19:00 - [235] Originally by: Zapatero Serenity Steele's Strategic Map book was advertised via the in-game splash screen, as are all ads that appear in EON. Assuming no disasters befall those brave souls tasked with updating the EVE Store site, the book should be available for pre-order next week. (My diary says 14th). Publication will follow fairly soon after, but we also have a magazine to send to print in the next two weeks, so the schedules are well inked at this point in time. Final decisions are being made with regard to things like grammage, which also impacts on the postage costs, but we'll have all that decided soon enough and everything will go in an official news story as soon as every 't' is crossed and 'i' dotted Thanks for being patient. - Z This gonna be another one of those "Europe only" things that costs $50 shipping to cross the pond? --- in EVE - Idara
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.03.11 17:11:00 - [236] Originally by: Idara Originally by: Zapatero Serenity Steele's Strategic Map book was advertised via the in-game splash screen, as are all ads that appear in EON. Assuming no disasters befall those brave souls tasked with updating the EVE Store site, the book should be available for pre-order next week. (My diary says 14th). Publication will follow fairly soon after, but we also have a magazine to send to print in the next two weeks, so the schedules are well inked at this point in time. Final decisions are being made with regard to things like grammage, which also impacts on the postage costs, but we'll have all that decided soon enough and everything will go in an official news story as soon as every 't' is crossed and 'i' dotted Thanks for being patient. - Z This gonna be another one of those "Europe only" things that costs $50 shipping to cross the pond? No! ≡v≡ Strategic Maps - Outposts & Sov - Alliance Rank
Cyril RABBLE-RABBLE R-I-P	Posted - 2008.03.24 05:38:00 - [237] Between the news about the shipping delays from the eve store and some of the previous issues I'm starting to think there is only 1 person that works in that department... I can see why you would be reluctant to post a date... I'm crossing my fingers that when they get back from their 5 day break it might make it up on the store page. Still not holding my breath though. Still looking forward to getting the email saying that it is available. I think this will be a great resource to have. ----------------------------------------- insert witty sig here.
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.03.25 00:32:00 - [238] Originally by: Cyril Between the news about the shipping delays from the eve store and some of the previous issues I'm starting to think there is only 1 person that works in that department... I can see why you would be reluctant to post a date... I'm crossing my fingers that when they get back from their 5 day break it might make it up on the store page. Still not holding my breath though. Yes. Fortunately the Maps won't be shipped from Iceland, they'll be shipped directly from MMM Publishing in the UK, which has more than 1 person Originally by: Cyril Still looking forward to getting the email saying that it is available. I think this will be a great resource to have. I'm can't wait to send the email that they're available ≡v≡ Strategic Maps - Outposts & Sov - Alliance Rank
Serena Hennessy Koshaku Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.30 22:24:00 - [239] /me checks the eve store again. :( It's been a couple of weeks since the last update; any news Zapt? Serenity has been talking these things up as long as I can remember, and the teases he's posted here and displayed at fanfest are just too good to be true! March is almost over - I needs my book :(
Sir Nimmo	Posted - 2008.03.30 23:16:00 - [240] A wee update would be greatly appreciated. I have been putting off an order from the Eve store for a couple of weeks now whilst waiting for the book to become available. Can't wait until it is ready though.

Eudare Meswime	Posted - 2008.04.01 17:51:00 - [241] March is gone, April is here. I've been following this for about 2 years now, or all my life, been too long to remember. Will it ever happen?
Zapatero	Posted - 2008.04.02 18:28:00 - [242] All I can say is the book will be on sale (pre-order) soon. My lords and masters at MMM are bugging CCP on a daily basis and we are just waiting for their web guys to do the business. (Over-simplified analogy: We are literally waiting for the shopkeeper to put up the sale signs - sadly we don't have the keys to get in and do it ourselves.... which is probably a very good thing as we'd steal all the socks) Sorry about the wait, but the wait is only a mini-Soon - Z EON \| blog
Rethe Henney TRantor Corp. House of Mercury	Posted - 2008.04.04 12:47:00 - [243] Hey! it's available at the EVE-Store great. Thanks for your work Serenity! - Trantor - Corporation Francophone (Website)
Idara Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.04.04 13:30:00 - [244] Ordered mine. Any way to avoid using the aneurysm-inducing in game map. --- in EVE - Idara
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.04.04 15:00:00 - [245] Edited by: Serenity Steele on 04/04/2008 15:03:13 Wow .. you guys get in fast. I've very happy to say that after 2 years of hard work, late-nights, multiple revisions, gold-plating and being able to name systems of entire regions in my sleep, it is now available for order.in the CCP Store. Thanks to the guys at EON and for making it happen! ≡v≡ Strategic Maps - Outposts & Sov - Alliance Rank
Baron Erique Bhavana Singularity	Posted - 2008.04.04 15:41:00 - [246] While I really like Ombey's maps, these are excellent as well and I was looking forward to buying a copy. The price is very reasonable, but shipping that costs more than half of what the book does? Is the Eve-store the only place from which I can buy this?
Moriko Mari Enima Machine	Posted - 2008.04.04 15:50:00 - [247] Edited by: Moriko Mari on 04/04/2008 15:51:14 Worth a trip to the forums ;) Ordered one cheers.
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.04.04 16:24:00 - [248] Originally by: Baron Erique ... The price is very reasonable, but shipping that costs more than half of what the book does? Is the Eve-store the only place from which I can buy this? They're distributed from the Europe, hence the relatively high shipping rates to "Rest of the World". The book is quite substantial, with very thick paper and cover. AFAIK they will only be available from the eve-online store for the time being. http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancerank.asp Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps - Outposts & Sov - Alliance Rank[/url]
Maggie Thatcher Volunteer Militia for State Security	Posted - 2008.04.04 16:53:00 - [249] Ordered one, because its cool.
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.04.04 17:03:00 - [250] Awesomeness, ordering Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed

Tamayo The JORG Corporation Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.04.04 17:39:00 - [251] Ordered...they look most deluxe ! ...it ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go... ...if you think you need it, hereÆs the place to feed it. But it ainÆt pretty...
Castelo Branco The Undertakers Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.04.04 17:42:00 - [252] Yes, I check the price for "Rest of the World" shipping (I'm at South America) and shipping price is really big, around U$ 11 for a book map around U$20 (price of maps if fine, btw). I think one of solution is let people buy others items together at eve-store, so we can get more lower ship prices for more stuffs. Actually, the way it is designed, the site do not let you buy the maps and the Art of EVE book together for example.
Cyril	Posted - 2008.04.05 00:11:00 - [253] Ordered mine! The price is great! Shipping is shipping... To be honest I'd have probably paid more for the book then the book + shipping ended up at. I can't wait to have get it! Is it shipping now or is this still a pre-order? ----------------------------------------- insert witty sig here.
Vested Interest	Posted - 2008.04.05 23:07:00 - [254] are you going to release this as a PDF download?
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.04.05 23:45:00 - [255] Originally by: Cyril Ordered mine! The price is great! Shipping is shipping... To be honest I'd have probably paid more for the book then the book + shipping ended up at. I can't wait to have get it! Is it shipping now or is this still a pre-order? It just went on order Friday, so is effectively pre-order at the moment until the print-job is completed. http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancerank.asp Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps - Outposts & Sov - Alliance Rank[/url]
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.04.05 23:48:00 - [256] Originally by: Vested Interest are you going to release this as a PDF download? AFAIK, there are no plans to release a PDF download. The way the maps are (wire-o) binded to lay flat on your desk when at any given map, is part of of it's usefulness. http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancerank.asp Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps - Outposts & Sov - Alliance Rank[/url]
Ehrine Ashbark Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.04.06 15:34:00 - [257] Whooot, Finally. Copy ordered and I suspect my houstmates will be ordering their own shortly as well :) Can't wait to get it after looking at the preview prints at the last fanfest :)
Zapatero	Posted - 2008.04.06 22:53:00 - [258] ooh, at last! A hearty congratulations to SS for seeing the project through to get EVE Maps published! I'm honoured to have played a small part - Z EON \| blog
Muscaat Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.04.06 23:16:00 - [259] Bought Been looking forward to this...
MotherMoon	Posted - 2008.04.06 23:28:00 - [260] nice this will help huang nicely. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Yosarian	Posted - 2008.04.07 18:22:00 - [261] Very nice. Ordered!
DaemonExodus	Posted - 2008.04.07 18:37:00 - [262] Can't wait for my next paycheck and I will be ordering mine soon!
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.04.08 09:24:00 - [263] Thanks to all of you who have posted support here. It makes the effort worth it :) Also received a number of nice emails. If you're not the type, feel free to drop a comment on my blog Originally by: Zapatero ooh, at last! A hearty congratulations to SS for seeing the project through to get EVE Maps published! I'm honoured to have played a small part - Z At last indeed! thanks for your help in getting this far :) http://www.eve-online.com/eon/strategicmaps.asp Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store[/url]
Countess NotFarOut2	Posted - 2008.04.08 09:38:00 - [264] Dont take it wrong, but I prefer the donwloadable 2D's from Ombey. Why pay real money if ISKies will siffice?
Mortalitis Taurus Inc Mournival Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.08 23:54:00 - [265] orderd mine
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.04.14 21:15:00 - [266] Thanks to everyone who has ordered Maps so far. I took a proof copy to Gankathon, which was very popular, and even readable by the murky light of a mobile phone in a dark gothic bar! ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store
DoanEven Meswime	Posted - 2008.04.16 13:43:00 - [267] Whew, 8 pages of "When can we order?" 1 page, so far of "Yea, we can order!!" Now, how many pages of "How long will my order be 'PENDING'"?
Enthoq In Excess Enterprises	Posted - 2008.04.17 10:22:00 - [268] Great work! My hobby is interesting for history and cartography;real worlds and fiction worlds. I am order eve maps! Thanx Serenity,your work is my pleasure.
Drano Kay Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.04.20 03:25:00 - [269] Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: Vested Interest are you going to release this as a PDF download? AFAIK, there are no plans to release a PDF download. The way the maps are (wire-o) binded to lay flat on your desk when at any given map, is part of of it's usefulness. Why is it a problem to do both? why can't you choose digital download / binder versions? Would likly get extra sales if they are sold seperate. For me, a binder is LESS useful not more. I would definitely buy them if I could have them in PDF/Image format instead of a binder. Oh well, perhaps I'll buy them anyways and then scan them >_< But again, a binder for me is a deal breaker, not added usefulness. In any case, thanks! Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.04.26 23:34:00 - [270] Originally by: Drano Kay Why is it a problem to do both? why can't you choose digital download / binder versions? Would likly get extra sales if they are sold seperate. For me, a binder is LESS useful not more. I would definitely buy them if I could have them in PDF/Image format instead of a binder. Oh well, perhaps I'll buy them anyways and then scan them >_< But again, a binder for me is a deal breaker, not added usefulness. In any case, thanks! It's not in a binder, it's a metal-spiral bound book, the kind you get on technical manuals

Jasay Swedish Aerospace Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.04.29 15:58:00 - [271] So has anyone actually received a map? My order has been pending for a month nowà.
Chan Su	Posted - 2008.04.30 01:47:00 - [272] I got an email from the publisher on 04/18 saying shipping would be delayed a few weeks while Seren mapped the "new" content. My CC was charged however upon order confirmation. Any update on this, SS?
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.05.01 14:20:00 - [273] Happily last night I finished all the Empyrean age content updates to the EVE Strategic Map Book and it's off to the print press - I expect shipping to start around 16th May. The guys at EON will be emailing everyone to keep them up to date. Thanks for everyone's patience on the delay - having the new content will definitely be worth the wait! ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store
Lonen Tolento	Posted - 2008.05.01 15:08:00 - [274] excellent job and ill be ordering one come payday can i make a small suggestion hides from lynch mob if u do a new updated one in a few moths might be worth adding like acetate (sp?) over each map so in effect you can scribble notes over the maps that are wipe clean for like tactical ideas and so on please dont kill me in game hides but still welldone on the project :)
Nova Fox Gallente	Posted - 2008.05.01 15:38:00 - [275] How about expansion pack prints for future content when it becomes available instead of making a new edition every pack? Tender Ship's Logistics Sister Ship
Lord Fitz Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.01 17:26:00 - [276] Originally by: Castelo Branco Edited by: Castelo Branco on 04/04/2008 17:48:37 Yes, I check the price for "Rest of the World" shipping (I'm at South America) and shipping price is really big, around U$ 11 for a book map around U$20 (price of maps if fine, btw). wow, some people usually get it good, in Australia typically shipping is at least $10 even if coming from within the country, for stuff from Europe / USA it can get up to $50 USD of shipping, even for books. Mind you it's not usually that bad if you can bundle things together, though most shipping is based on weight. The book could just as easily be $30 USD with 'free' shipping ;) Less complaints, same outcome :o But yeah, $10 shipping from Europe is pretty good I would have thought, for places like South America and Australia especially.
mikcor	Posted - 2008.05.04 19:17:00 - [277] can i this buy with paypal. I have no creditcard. Give a german dealer for this strategie map? nice day mikcor
Wren Alterana Minmatar The Baros Syndicate Kissaki Republic	Posted - 2008.05.04 19:51:00 - [278] Originally by: Nova Fox How about expansion pack prints for future content when it becomes available instead of making a new edition every pack? seconded. I still luv it though. *buys
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.05.15 12:01:00 - [279] Originally by: mikcor can i this buy with paypal. I have no creditcard. Give a german dealer for this strategie map? nice day mikcor They are currently only available through the EVE Store. An alternative would be to use a friend/family members credit card and pay them the cash. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.05.15 12:03:00 - [280] Originally by: Wren Alterana Originally by: Nova Fox How about expansion pack prints for future content when it becomes available instead of making a new edition every pack? seconded. I still luv it though. *buys It's a good idea, and I had thoughts along the same lines. It really depends on the scope of future changes as to what is the best method. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store

Zakgram Atomic Heroes Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.15 12:39:00 - [281] Mine arrived this morning. Hurrah. Initial thoughts. Pick a page (e.g. 17) - look at Fovilhi and Zaid in C7. Since it's printed on glossy black it's very difficult to spot that Fovihi has a station whereas Zaid doesn't. Now look at Dysa in G9 - it's got 2 station services but the little dots are so small and are dark red against a dark red on black that I have to pick the map up and hold it close. Same with the dark green ones - the only ones that are really clear are outposts where the dots are black and the circle bright yellow. I guess I'm saying that the colour red and green are too dark. As is the grey as well for 0.0 - it would probably have been better being brighter. What would also be really useful would be an alphabetical list of each system and what page and grid reference. That way when you are lost you can quickly look up the system you're in and jump to the page and grid to find where you really are. Overall, not unhappy with it.
DoanEven Meswime	Posted - 2008.05.15 19:05:00 - [282] I'm upset, jealous, and many more emotions. How come Phalanx guy got his before I got mine? Actually, I'm very excited and impatient. Please Mr. Postman, hurry that book to me. Does it come with care and feeding instructions? How do the new regions connect to current ones? How many new regions? Systems? Will small alliances be able to carve out a niche, or will it favor the large alliances? So many questions and no book to look at. Raise that whip as you walk through shipping !!
Zakgram Atomic Heroes Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.16 06:45:00 - [283] Originally by: DoanEven Meswime I'm upset, jealous, and many more emotions. How come Phalanx guy got his before I got mine? 'Cos Phalanx are special. Originally by: DoanEven Meswime Does it come with care and feeding instructions? A sheet that says hello and now look properly at the legend instead of just looking at your home system. Originally by: DoanEven Meswime How do the new regions connect to current ones? In the book with lines. In game with jump gates. Originally by: DoanEven Meswime How many new regions? Systems? Will small alliances be able to carve out a niche, or will it favor the large alliances? 1, 40 or so, no,no. It's mainly low sec so of little value to alliances. Originally by: DoanEven Meswime So many questions and no book to look at. I got mine though. Yesterday
RedLion Caldari Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.16 06:57:00 - [284] Why can't I order this as a normal store product? I can't check out my "super phun thyme" amarr t-shirt from normal store and this in the same go? Whyyy? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The Gallenteans must be destroyed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.05.16 11:48:00 - [285] Originally by: Zakgram ... What would also be really useful would be an alphabetical list of each system and what page and grid reference. That way when you are lost you can quickly look up the system you're in and jump to the page and grid to find where you really are. ... Hi Zakgram, thanks for the feedback. I'll post the alphabetical listing onto the site this weekend along with an IGB site to show GridRef on your current system. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store
Rheinkraft D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.05.16 12:00:00 - [286] got mine and its great, thanks serenity & very good work Under The Black Flag Est 2004
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.05.17 11:43:00 - [287] Originally by: Rheinkraft got mine and its great, thanks serenity & very good work Thanks Rheinkraft ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store
dreamsequencer Amarr Freelancer Union Unaffiliated	Posted - 2008.05.17 20:58:00 - [288] I just got an e-mail that my copy is being posted. Can't wait. --- Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori ---
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.05.18 07:25:00 - [289] Originally by: dreamsequencer I just got an e-mail that my copy is being posted. Can't wait. Cool dreamsequencer!
Ridjeck Thome The Older Gamers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.18 08:36:00 - [290] ive picked up a few errors and omissions so far (eg; low sec system marked as high sec, omitted belt info for perrigan falls), where do I send the details?

Nicholas Barker MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.05.18 09:33:00 - [291] Originally by: Serenity Steele Includes stickers to mark new player outposts as they are built [/list] I BLOODY LOVE STICKERS ---
Kretin JuBa Corp	Posted - 2008.05.18 12:54:00 - [292] I received my order yesterday and it looks stunning and no doubt will be a great asset. I have found a few errors as mentioned in one of the above posts about systems marked as high-sec when are actually low-sec, where do I send details?
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.05.18 13:14:00 - [293] Originally by: Ridjeck Thome ive picked up a few errors and omissions so far (eg; low sec system marked as high sec, omitted belt info for perrigan falls), where do I send the details? If you could please email them to support (at) eve-maps (dot) com, that would be great. There are a number of changes in the Empyrean Age data that are different to the current server, so I can check. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.05.19 20:45:00 - [294] Originally by: Zakgram What would also be really useful would be an alphabetical list of each system and what page and grid reference. That way when you are lost you can quickly look up the system you're in and jump to the page and grid to find where you really are. Hi Zakgram, at your request I've put an alphabetical and alphabetical/page listing onto the website for download in Excel and CSV format (CSV is for website developers). ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store
Nykole Caldari Genesis Rising	Posted - 2008.05.19 21:09:00 - [295] debated a while on the book, then heard all the good reviews about it, and i decided to get it... i started my order... then i got to another screen... $11.60 for shipping? brining the total cost to $31.55.. oh well... thats a bit much for me. guess i'll stick to the free ones.
Xicon	Posted - 2008.05.19 22:40:00 - [296] Originally by: Nykole debated a while on the book, then heard all the good reviews about it, and i decided to get it... i started my order... then i got to another screen... $11.60 for shipping? brining the total cost to $31.55.. oh well... thats a bit much for me. guess i'll stick to the free ones. Don't forget that for $11.60 (less than a gallon of gas or a couple of pints of beer - at least here in UK, which is where we pay the bills) it is shipped by Priority Airmail and you don't have to 'wait 28 days for delivery' now that it is out there. Order today, ships (flies) tomorrow. And believe me, you won't be disappointed. Publisher, E-ON http://www.eve-online.com/eon/ Issue #011 Now Shipping EVE Strategic Maps now shipping
Zapatero	Posted - 2008.05.20 11:30:00 - [297] Originally by: Xicon Originally by: Nykole debated a while on the book, then heard all the good reviews about it, and i decided to get it... i started my order... then i got to another screen... $11.60 for shipping? brining the total cost to $31.55.. oh well... thats a bit much for me. guess i'll stick to the free ones. Don't forget that for $11.60 (less than a gallon of gas or a couple of pints of beer - at least here in UK, which is where we pay the bills) it is shipped by Priority Airmail and you don't have to 'wait 28 days for delivery' now that it is out there. Order today, ships (flies) tomorrow. And believe me, you won't be disappointed. Considering I haven't been able to type for 3 days since boxing up hundreds of those damn maps, I think $11.60 is far too cheap And actually, here on the south coast (as opposed to London), you can get three pints of beer for that price, two bales of hay for your horse, eight chickens or seven wives. - Z EON \| blog
DoanEven Meswime	Posted - 2008.05.20 12:06:00 - [298] I got a notice that mine shipped quite some time ago but it has not arrived yet. Do I need to pod the mail person? I saw the blurb about next day air or whatever and now I'm worried. Any way to check status of shipment?
Zapatero	Posted - 2008.05.20 13:26:00 - [299] Originally by: DoanEven Meswime I got a notice that mine shipped quite some time ago but it has not arrived yet. Do I need to pod the mail person? I saw the blurb about next day air or whatever and now I'm worried. Any way to check status of shipment? I would hope that US & Canadian buyers will start getting them from Friday, mainland Europe starting around now-ish (Ms. Steele got hers today). Of course all territories and states are different and you should expect to give a few days of leeway. People should certainly get them before the release of the expansion :) - Z EON \| blog
Nykole Caldari Genesis Rising	Posted - 2008.05.20 14:39:00 - [300] Originally by: Xicon Don't forget that for $11.60 (less than a gallon of gas or a couple of pints of beer - at least here in UK, which is where we pay the bills) it is shipped by Priority Airmail and you don't have to 'wait 28 days for delivery' now that it is out there. Order today, ships (flies) tomorrow. And believe me, you won't be disappointed. the only disappointment is that it is out of our budget... too bad i can't pay for this using isk...

Razzy Gallente PROGENITOR CORPORATION Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.20 21:17:00 - [301] Well, I ordered one of these for myself today - cant wait to see how good it is, the preview seems very nice indeed, and the fact it is upto date with the new empyrean age stuff is even better :D :) now just to wait for that postman....
Xicon	Posted - 2008.05.20 22:19:00 - [302] Originally by: Razzy Well, I ordered one of these for myself today - cant wait to see how good it is, the preview seems very nice indeed, and the fact it is upto date with the new empyrean age stuff is even better :D :) now just to wait for that postman.... If you ordered before 15.40 BST today then it is already in a mail van/plane/train. If it was after that, then it will go out tomorrow. Just a note for all ESM buyers; a current glitch in the order system means that 'Pending' is not getting toggled to 'Shipped' when we ship, but rest assured we are shipping daily. Publisher, E-ON http://www.eve-online.com/eon/ Issue #011 Now Shipping EVE Strategic Maps now shipping
Davd Cibri	Posted - 2008.05.20 22:56:00 - [303] I just checked the order status page and it still says the order is pending instead of shipped, should I be worried? I received the email stating my copy has been shipped so I'm not entirely sure whats going on. I ordered my copy the day it went on sale; please tell me there hasn't been an error. I live in the United States
Syniztur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.21 00:03:00 - [304] /reads poast... /rubz eyez... /re-reads poast... Quote: ...You can order it at... /tosses poast into the bin -------------------------------------------------- \| Do unto others, before they can do unto you! \| --------------------------------------------------
Norwest Siege Warfare And Recon Missions	Posted - 2008.05.21 01:07:00 - [305] Edited by: Norwest on 21/05/2008 01:07:24 Heh, I can't wait till it goes 'thump' on my door. Preview pages were very shiney indeed, and I'm really looking forward to the intel so my corp can get set up for FW. ***** Rule 27: 'Don't be afraid to be the first to resort to violence.' -The Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates [schlockmercenary.com]
Wren Alterana Minmatar The Baros Syndicate Kissaki Republic	Posted - 2008.05.21 01:15:00 - [306] is there a way to track the shipment so I can estimate how long until it arrives? _________ Dynamic Maps
Enthoq In Excess Enterprises	Posted - 2008.05.21 08:29:00 - [307] My strategic Maps are delivered yesteday!I am so happy! They are great!I am to much satisfied. Naw lets go to exploring of universe with new navigation maps.
Zwel Haa	Posted - 2008.05.21 09:48:00 - [308] Edited by: Zwel Haa on 21/05/2008 09:49:51 (sorry wrong Char, > Rethe Henney) The maps are very well done, nice job Serenity. I've wait this book for months now and I'm really happy to see that the book is exactly what we need when we have to travel across the galaxy ! THANKS !
Xicon	Posted - 2008.05.21 09:50:00 - [309] Originally by: Wren Alterana is there a way to track the shipment so I can estimate how long until it arrives? I'm afraid not. We shipped all pre-orders on Wednesday 14th May, and now ship daily for latest orders. As a time estimate, it obviously depends on where in the world you live, but you can expect the following: UK - 1 to 2 days Europe - 3 to 6 days America - 4 to 8 days RoW - 5-10 days Publisher, E-ON http://www.eve-online.com/eon/ Issue #011 Now Shipping EVE Strategic Maps now shipping
Davd Cibri	Posted - 2008.05.21 22:42:00 - [310] Originally by: Davd Cibri I just checked the order status page and it still says the order is pending instead of shipped, should I be worried? I received the email stating my copy has been shipped so I'm not entirely sure whats going on. I ordered my copy the day it went on sale; please tell me there hasn't been an error. I live in the United States Could someone answer my questions please :) my post ended up being at the end of the previous page, might be easy to miss.

Xicon	Posted - 2008.05.21 22:45:00 - [311] Originally by: Davd Cibri Originally by: Davd Cibri I just checked the order status page and it still says the order is pending instead of shipped, should I be worried? I received the email stating my copy has been shipped so I'm not entirely sure whats going on. I ordered my copy the day it went on sale; please tell me there hasn't been an error. I live in the United States Could someone answer my questions please :) my post ended up being at the end of the previous page, might be easy to miss. Yep - your copy was shipped last week. The order system has also now been fixed so that it shows 'Shipped' instead of 'Pending' once it has been shipped. :)
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.05.21 22:57:00 - [312] Originally by: Rethe Henney The maps are very well done, nice job Serenity. I've wait this book for months now and I'm really happy to see that the book is exactly what we need when we have to travel across the galaxy ! THANKS ! Cheers Rethe, good to hear from you. Good luck on your travels ;)
Davd Cibri	Posted - 2008.05.21 23:15:00 - [313] Originally by: Xicon Yep - your copy was shipped last week. The order system has also now been fixed so that it shows 'Shipped' instead of 'Pending' once it has been shipped. :) Awesome! Thanks for responding. I've been eagerly waiting for it in the mail, I'm really looking forward to receiving my copy
Tellnan Matkiel Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.05.22 01:32:00 - [314] Received mine. Very nice look. Only really negative comment at first glance is one already mentioned - that the black dots for station services isn't always clear.
mr vimes	Posted - 2008.05.23 07:01:00 - [315] Ok got mine it was very very quick cos i ordered it night before and by next day whummp!! on my doormat fantastically fast.. ok i love the way the graphics are detailed some niggles i know some have already pointed them out but as you want constructive critism here's mine.. 1. Regarding the legend its a bit awkward at the beginning i think it been better on a seperate page so you can glance at it when looking at the pages.. 2. I and a friend of mine agree we feel this book should be twice its size so you can double the size of the print, cos I myself am using a magnifyer (Old eyes) and still having problems seeing all the info contained in the dot. 3. The graphics are clever cos i used a pair of 3d glasses and they do jump out of the page at you albeit still hard to read. 4. As said before the black background is good shame that the constrating colors are to dark to see even in a good light.. Overall it was well thought out ok a Tad expensive but i see why would of been nice thou to add a few extra's like a acompaning CD /DVD rom with the maps on so they can be updated on PC and then transfer that data with stickers onto the maps but hey dont get nothing for free now adays I hope this not to critical its not complaints just my own opinion
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.05.23 07:30:00 - [316] Originally by: mr vimes 3. The graphics are clever cos i used a pair of 3d glasses and they do jump out of the page at you albeit still hard to read. Wow that is a serendipitous effect. Were you using red/blue or blue/green glasses? ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store
dreamsequencer Freelancer Union Unaffiliated	Posted - 2008.05.24 10:40:00 - [317] This morning, I filled my Eve-mug with some hot Arabica coffee, and started browsing through the Strategic map book. It looks awesome. This is the art of eve part 2 Kudos for a job well done Serenity Steele. Or should I say: goed gedaan Shayne --- Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori ---
Mat rix Grail Seekers	Posted - 2008.05.24 11:32:00 - [318] ordered mine 24hrs ago, and arrived in good condition. very pleased with the maps, thx Grail Seekers
mr vimes	Posted - 2008.05.24 14:28:00 - [319] Originally by: Serenity Steele Wow that is a serendipitous effect. Were you using red/blue or blue/green glasses?[/quote Dont know think im color Blind!! anyway hope my efforts are noted
Goldfrapp	Posted - 2008.05.24 15:14:00 - [320] Ordered mine on thurs night it arrived sat morning

Wren Alterana The Baros Syndicate Kissaki Republic	Posted - 2008.05.24 17:56:00 - [321] I was told that it was a mistake to buy this, but I really like it. having Ombey's maps online is nothing like actually holding the map. _______ Make Races swappable in portraits
Bryce Calladan CAD Inc. Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.05.24 18:03:00 - [322] Great buy, I pre-ordered it when it was announced, and it arrived before the ads were up to buy it in the client. Awesome layout, easy to find what I'm looking for and plan routes. Quite good to use when scouting for roams. It's really handy in null sec and empire alike. Thanks for this, Serenity! two thumbs up! _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.05.27 17:01:00 - [323] [Also posted this in a different thread] Just received the Map book. Like it very much! I do have a question: according to the book, Perrigen Falls doesn't have any asteroid fields, and the outpost at 1A8-6G has no services. Is this a sign of things to come in the upcoming expansion, or am I reading the map wrong? ...
JDrex	Posted - 2008.05.27 17:57:00 - [324] I got a question, for those of you in the US what carrier delivered it? Pre-ordered a while back and still haven't gotten it yet maybe I'm just being impatient though
Matt calvert Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.05.27 22:57:00 - [325] Edited by: Matt calvert on 27/05/2008 22:57:48 Very nice work, after a little time to understand color and icon it's very clear :) Just a little error, in wicked creek jump between GM-50Y and 4NDT-W doesnt appear :(
RangerZero	Posted - 2008.05.28 10:59:00 - [326] On my print is side 41/42 missing :-( So I have no maps from Kor-Azor and Lonetrek. How can I get a "complete" one ?
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.05.29 05:37:00 - [327] Originally by: RangerZero On my print is side 41/42 missing :-( So I have no maps from Kor-Azor and Lonetrek. How can I get a "complete" one ? Please email customer support (See below) Originally by: "https://secure.eve-online.com/eon/" E-ON Customer Support For all customer service enquiries, please email [email protected] ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.05.29 10:18:00 - [328] Originally by: JDrex I got a question, for those of you in the US what carrier delivered it? Pre-ordered a while back and still haven't gotten it yet maybe I'm just being impatient though Please check your order to see it's shipping status, if it's not been shipped, please contact [email protected] ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Histracko Intergalactic House of Pi Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.29 13:16:00 - [329] Wow this book is amazing, excellent work Serenity!! I did find one error though, should I post it here or send it to someone?
clonkrieger Imperium Forces Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.05.29 13:40:00 - [330] Can you use marker pens or any form of pen on these maps? ___________________________ Returned after being absent. Updating...

DoanEven Meswime	Posted - 2008.05.29 14:52:00 - [331] Has anyone experimented with marking on the pages. I tried a silver sharpie, not enough contrast. For those that don't know, the sharpie can be "erased" by going over with a dry write marker. Go figure. Same holds true on dry write board, go over permanent marker with dry write marker, brings it right up. Back to subject - while the sharpie works, I'm nervous about it. Has anyone tried grease pencils? Any other suggestions? Love the maps!!
JDrex	Posted - 2008.05.29 16:44:00 - [332] Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: JDrex I got a question, for those of you in the US what carrier delivered it? Pre-ordered a while back and still haven't gotten it yet maybe I'm just being impatient though Please check your order to see it's shipping status, if it's not been shipped, please contact [email protected] It changed from pending to shipped right around when I got the email saying they would be shipped out 2 weeks ago
Kirith Kodachi Strife Mercenaries Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.29 18:04:00 - [333] Originally by: JDrex Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: JDrex I got a question, for those of you in the US what carrier delivered it? Pre-ordered a while back and still haven't gotten it yet maybe I'm just being impatient though Please check your order to see it's shipping status, if it's not been shipped, please contact [email protected] t changed from pending to shipped right around when I got the email saying they would be shipped out 2 weeks ago I live in Canada and just got mine last night. So I'd give it another week for the postal service to get it to your hands.
winthrowe Node Alpha Defense Research	Posted - 2008.05.29 18:07:00 - [334] I recieved mine yesterday as well, in eastern Canada. Thanks Serenity, this is awesome :)
Havok Pierce D00M.	Posted - 2008.05.29 18:55:00 - [335] Edited by: Havok Pierce on 29/05/2008 18:56:16 Serenity, I've modified your helpfully-provided index list into something that's more easily printable--would you like a copy of the raw source and a PDF (in case something likes this gets into the next dead-tree version)? If you want, what I'd do is toss it up on some personal webspace and then evemail you a link so you could grab it and decide from there what to do with it. It's nothing fancy, but I just couldn't get past the fact that there wasn't a printed index (although I can see why you'd omit it... it's fscking huge). Also, for the next time you do this, did you consider the use of clear overlays for getting more information onto these works of beauty? Originally by: CCP Wrangler There's a Community petition category??
clonkrieger Imperium Forces Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.05.29 19:17:00 - [336] Well. I've just placed an order and I think i'll not be upset with it :P ___________________________ Returned after being absent. Updating...
Tamayo Viziam	Posted - 2008.05.29 19:54:00 - [337] I received my copy the other day It is excellent !! Thank you for all of your hard work Serenity !!! ...it ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go... ...if you think you need it, hereÆs the place to feed it. But it ainÆt pretty...
LongHong Dong	Posted - 2008.05.29 20:06:00 - [338] HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
Prisoner 257 Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.05.29 20:08:00 - [339] Originally by: LongHong Dong HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I Spamming a fitting?
Havok Pierce D00M.	Posted - 2008.05.29 20:11:00 - [340] Originally by: Prisoner 257 Originally by: LongHong Dong Forum spam Spamming a fitting? Please don't feed the trolls, dear. Just report the posts.

JDrex	Posted - 2008.05.30 16:09:00 - [341] Ok it came today, this thing is awesome, great job
davey wavey	Posted - 2008.05.30 20:00:00 - [342] Very nice, well chuffed with it. Just one thing pls give quility control a good kickin, lots of green systems when it should be red, some systems on most pages, but i am sure Kador should not all be green
Heiya	Posted - 2008.05.31 02:59:00 - [343] I am overall impressed with the quality of the maps. They are really beautiful. I am however very disappointed with the ability to see the station services. I literally cannot see the dots that indicate which services are available and I have 20/20 vision. I think that the array of dots (and the outside size of the system circle) could have been made larger without significantly affecting the map size or usability. This was my primary reason for buying the book.
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.05.31 13:30:00 - [344] Originally by: Havok Pierce Edited by: Havok Pierce on 29/05/2008 19:12:35 Edited by: Havok Pierce on 29/05/2008 18:56:16 Serenity, I've modified your helpfully-provided index list into something that's more easily printable--would you like a copy of the raw source and a PDF (in case something likes this gets into the next dead-tree version)? If you want, what I'd do is toss it up on some personal webspace and then evemail you a link so you could grab it and decide from there what to do with it. It's nothing fancy, but I just couldn't get past the fact that there wasn't a printed index (although I can see why you'd omit it... it's fscking huge -- printing is not for the short of paper). Also, for the next time you do this, did you consider the use of clear overlays for getting more information onto these works of beauty? Hey Havok, Thanks very much, received your email and will place a link to it on the Index page with credits :) /Serenity ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.05.31 13:35:00 - [345] Originally by: Heiya I am overall impressed with the quality of the maps. They are really beautiful. I am however very disappointed with the ability to see the station services. I literally cannot see the dots that indicate which services are available and I have 20/20 vision. I think that the array of dots (and the outside size of the system circle) could have been made larger without significantly affecting the map size or usability. This was my primary reason for buying the book. I agree the station services need more contrast to be able to spot well from an overview/glance in gamer lighting scenarios. It will be addressed in any future prints. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Cyril RABBLE-RABBLE R-I-P	Posted - 2008.05.31 21:26:00 - [346] Got my copy yesterday. Very nice. Only thing I see so far is that the new outpost stickers are a touch too big and block out the moon and asteroid data. And as everyone knows the number of moons really says a lot about how to go about 'acquiring' an outpost from someone else. ----------------------------------------- insert witty sig here.
Norwest Prima Civitas	Posted - 2008.05.31 22:02:00 - [347] Just got mine in on Friday in western Canada. Very shiney indeed. Only comments/critique I can really make is teh contrast on the stations, but that's been mention only a few dozen times already ***** Rule 27: 'Don't be afraid to be the first to resort to violence.' -The Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates [schlockmercenary.com]
Delfyr	Posted - 2008.06.02 18:30:00 - [348] Serenity, I posted this in another thread before finding this feedback thread. I am curious what you might be able to tell me on the follow: Browsing through some maps I found a few areas that I frequent appear to either be mislabeled or are changing significantly. Specifically Great Wildlands. M-MD3B (Currently has 2 stations) the new map has this marked as 1 outpost E02-IK (Currently has 1 station) the new map has this marked as 1 outpost. N-DQ0D (Currently has 1 station) the new map has this marked as 1 outpost. Are these real misprints... or is Great Wildlands changing that significantly?
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.06.03 18:01:00 - [349] Originally by: Delfyr Serenity, Browsing through some maps I found a few areas that I frequent appear to either be mislabeled or are changing significantly. Specifically Great Wildlands. M-MD3B (Currently has 2 stations) the new map has this marked as 1 outpost E02-IK (Currently has 1 station) the new map has this marked as 1 outpost. N-DQ0D (Currently has 1 station) the new map has this marked as 1 outpost. Are these real misprints... or is Great Wildlands changing that significantly? These are real misprints. Everything is correct except the colour. When running the checking queries, I didn't have one to check the colour of the systems :( All the other data (sec status, station services, asteroid belts, moons, jumps) are correct. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
BLACKSTONES	Posted - 2008.06.03 18:46:00 - [350] I finally got my copy of the book in the mail except it go pretty much destroyed in shipping.

Cailais VITOC	Posted - 2008.06.03 18:56:00 - [351] Mine arrived in pristine condition and frankly its awesome - great work Serenity C. VITOC - Amarr Corp for Faction Warfare!
w00kie98	Posted - 2008.06.03 19:58:00 - [352] Got mine last week in great condition. Wanted to use it a few days before passing judgment on it. Great design and easy to use, above posts noted. I have a much easier time using this than the pdf's on my PC. I just grab the book, thats always open to my area, and I'm good to go. I can also take it to the easy chair and plot my next moves. Thanks Serenity. Well worth the price and wait.
Havok Pierce D00M.	Posted - 2008.06.03 20:37:00 - [353] Edited by: Havok Pierce on 03/06/2008 20:37:16 Originally by: Serenity Steele Hey Havok, Thanks very much, received your email and will place a link to it on the Index page with credits :) /Serenity When? I accidentally nuked my own copy of it... Originally by: CCP Wrangler There's a Community petition category??
Squasar Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.04 23:05:00 - [354] I ordered mine 1 1/2 weeks ago and live in the US and have yet to receive them. I'm starting to get worried.
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.06.05 20:30:00 - [355] Edited by: Serenity Steele on 05/06/2008 20:30:13 Originally by: Squasar I ordered mine 1 1/2 weeks ago and live in the US and have yet to receive them. I'm starting to get worried. Reading the other posts on the USA, you should be ok. It appears to be in the range of 1-3 weeks. If your order doesn't show as "shipped" on the order tracking, then please email: eon [at] mmmpublishing [dot] com They handle all purchase/order related questions. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Isayo Arkindra Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.06.07 16:41:00 - [356] Edited by: Isayo Arkindra on 07/06/2008 16:43:02 Tiny suggestion of something that I feel is "missing" on the maps. A small overview on where the displayed region is in the EVE universe. While flipping away on regions that I'm not familiar with, I need to flip between the "overview" map (page 2?) to locate it in the universe. Just a small map, no names on it - highlighting where it is. Forgot to add: Really love the book otherwise! Excellent work! :) __________
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.06.07 20:00:00 - [357] Originally by: Isayo Arkindra Edited by: Isayo Arkindra on 07/06/2008 16:43:02 Tiny suggestion of something that I feel is "missing" on the maps. A small overview on where the displayed region is in the EVE universe. While flipping away on regions that I'm not familiar with, I need to flip between the "overview" map (page 2?) to locate it in the universe. Just a small map, no names on it - highlighting where it is. Forgot to add: Really love the book otherwise! Excellent work! :) Nice suggestion for each page. Thanks! Something that will save flipping to page 2 is the loose introduction sheet (Dear Fellow EvE Player...) Contains the overview map as well :) ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Seramyr l'Ethia GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.08 06:54:00 - [358] I bought it for the convenience of having a more portable, if spartan, version of GF's maps and it's actually come out rather well. Nicely done. In the future however you may wish to use a light gray background rather than solid black. The main appeal of printed maps is the ability to add notation or reference marks as needed, and while given the non-glossy nature of the mapbook this is still possible it has to be done with permanent ink (silver gel) rather than erasable (pencil).
Ebusitanus Segunda Fundacion T e r c i o s	Posted - 2008.06.08 12:07:00 - [359] Will this be eventually offered through Amazon or similars like the novel? After a very bad experience while ordering from the eve shop I do not plan in loosing any more money that way. ------------------------------------------------ "Stop quoting laws, we carry weapons!" Pompey the Great to the defenders of a besieged city who were crying outrage.
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.06.09 16:25:00 - [360] Edited by: Serenity Steele on 09/06/2008 16:26:50 Originally by: Ebusitanus Will this be eventually offered through Amazon or similars like the novel? After a very bad experience while ordering from the eve shop I do not plan in loosing any more money that way. Have no fear .. The book is shipped directly by EON publishers (mmm publishing), so it's different people monitoring the orders and packing/shipping. There are no plans to make it available through Amazon (or equivalent). ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age

Pedowitsch	Posted - 2008.06.10 22:15:00 - [361] Hey Serenity, first of all, i received my copy today and i have to say its a really great work! But could it be, that the colors for low-sec systems in kador are green instead of red? For example hiremir or sechmaren [D5] should be red i think.
Squasar State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.06.11 21:26:00 - [362] Just got my copy today and the maps are SWEET!!! Much thinker book than I thought. And for my fellow US New England players thinking about ordering them. 2 weeks 2 days for shipping.
Alt Sauce	Posted - 2008.06.11 21:43:00 - [363] So, it's $20 for a starmap?
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.06.14 12:08:00 - [364] Originally by: Alt Sauce So, it's $20 for a starmap? No it's $20 for a map of asteroid belts, moons, sec status, complexes, cosmos agents translated to 2D to clearly see jumps, connections and stations systems on 70 pages of high-quality printed paper with a bonus binding for easily keeping it flat on your desk. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.06.14 16:58:00 - [365] Originally by: Squasar Just got my copy today and the maps are SWEET!!! Much thinker book than I thought. And for my fellow US New England players thinking about ordering them. 2 weeks 2 days for shipping. Thanks Squasar :) ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Yosarian MediaCataclysm	Posted - 2008.06.14 18:28:00 - [366] they are absorbents too if you spill stuffs@!
Neermark JotunHeim Hird X13 Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.14 19:14:00 - [367] Hey Serenity I like my map a lot, already saved me a lot of isk and time. Would like a bit brighter edition where you could write additional info other than that it's perfect ! How many copies have you sold so far ? Yay For the new ALIGN BUTTON !!!!
Naella Ascendant Strategies Inc. Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.06.15 17:59:00 - [368] Edited by: Naella on 15/06/2008 18:02:03 Heya Serenity, Received my copy yetserday, it's NICE! Thank you very much for this job well done! However I found a small error. Page 20, I7 the jump Sakhti -> Gademam is missing. The jump Gademam -> Sakhti however on page 41, D10 is there. Haven't found any other errors yet. Regards, Naella
Maelos	Posted - 2008.06.16 22:39:00 - [369] Well done! I am very happy to have my first piece of EVE gear :-). The comments about the station services are true, but reading them is not all that much of a pain, as a great deal of systems are filled with a contrasting color. It took a little over a week to arrive, but I am very pleased with the result and gladly would have paid double if need be. I look forward to your future projects and possible expansions to this map book. Keep up the good work :-)
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.06.18 17:22:00 - [370] Originally by: Maelos Well done! I am very happy to have my first piece of EVE gear :-). The comments about the station services are true, but reading them is not all that much of a pain, as a great deal of systems are filled with a contrasting color. It took a little over a week to arrive, but I am very pleased with the result and gladly would have paid double if need be. I look forward to your future projects and possible expansions to this map book. Keep up the good work :-) Thanks Maelos :) ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age

Nabukanozor	Posted - 2008.06.19 05:29:00 - [371] Edited by: Nabukanozor on 19/06/2008 05:33:06 Edited by: Nabukanozor on 19/06/2008 05:30:23 Dear Serenity Steele, Fantastic job Just receive it, surprised to find treasures hidden just next jump. Great tools for traders. Certainly took a hell of time to compile all the informations. Possible improvments who can be nicer: 1) A general index in alphabetic order for all the systems with reference to their region and grid position on the region map (May be opposite of the universe map) 2) An index of systems for each region, with may be the stations faction name and services. 3) May be change some colors (services on stations) who make the reading more easier without having a magnifying glass). Will look forward to future products Nabu
Lia Gaeren Pole Dancing Vixens	Posted - 2008.06.19 15:40:00 - [372] I'm strictly a high sec runner, but I impulse bought this and it is sweet. Good information even for me - I can imagine it being super-useful for someone who travelled about more than me. And for other UK folks - it took 1 day to arrive after ordering :)
Chuck Tucker	Posted - 2008.06.23 03:00:00 - [373] Is there any chance we can see these wonderful maps printed on plastic sheets or heavily laminated paper ? Mean, like a plastic playing cards stuff. Totally waterproof, and dry-erase marker friendly. Using marker is one thing I was always eager for. Then the map gets really "war-room" look. And BTW, can you please ask MMM publishing to consider LARGE Universe map (something like A0 format or greater). It would be a killer. A lot of ppl would buy it just for room deco.
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.06.25 06:44:00 - [374] Originally by: Nabukanozor Edited by: Nabukanozor on 19/06/2008 05:33:06 Edited by: Nabukanozor on 19/06/2008 05:30:23 Dear Serenity Steele, Fantastic job Just receive it, surprised to find treasures hidden just next jump. Great tools for traders. Certainly took a hell of time to compile all the informations. Possible improvments who can be nicer: 1) A general index in alphabetic order for all the systems with reference to their region and grid position on the region map (May be opposite of the universe map) 2) An index of systems for each region, with may be the stations faction name and services. 3) May be change some colors (services on stations) who make the reading more easier without having a magnifying glass). Will look forward to future products Nabu Thanks for the suggestions Nabukanozor; 1) Is available as a downloadable on the website 2) Will add some more info to the web-site. 3) Fully agree! You need good lighting at the moment to read them. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.06.25 21:24:00 - [375] Originally by: Lia Gaeren I'm strictly a high sec runner, but I impulse bought this and it is sweet. Good information even for me - I can imagine it being super-useful for someone who travelled about more than me. And for other UK folks - it took 1 day to arrive after ordering :) Thanks for the feedback Lia! ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.06.25 21:25:00 - [376] Originally by: Neermark Hey Serenity I like my map a lot, already saved me a lot of isk and time. Would like a bit brighter edition where you could write additional info other than that it's perfect ! How many copies have you sold so far ? Thanks Neermark! More than I expected, but less than I hoped ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.06.27 06:27:00 - [377] Originally by: Chuck Tucker Is there any chance we can see these wonderful maps printed on plastic sheets or heavily laminated paper ? Mean, like a plastic playing cards stuff. Totally waterproof, and dry-erase marker friendly. Using marker is one thing I was always eager for. Then the map gets really "war-room" look. I was originally going for laminating all the pages, but it would more than doubled the cost of the book. If you slowly push a pencil through the middle of the ring-bind, it will come undone neatly, and you can laminate the individual pages. Originally by: Chuck Tucker And BTW, can you please ask MMM publishing to consider LARGE Universe map (something like A0 format or greater). It would be a killer. A lot of ppl would buy it just for room deco. It has been done! The next edition of EON that just went to print contains an massive map (larger than the old one with edition 4) that I made for them. It's got all the eve maps page numbers marked next to the region names :)
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.07.03 01:08:00 - [378] The Legend/Preview for EVE Strategic Map Book is now available for download in 16 Languages: English + 中文 + ČeÜtina + Dansk + Deutsch + Frantais + Islenska + Italiano + Norsk + Magyar + Polski + PortuguOs + RomGnă + Русский + Espa±ol + Svenska The Legend is the only page your friends need translated to use the Map Book. Credits to for the translation are on each download. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Caldreean Dawnwalkers	Posted - 2008.07.03 02:06:00 - [379] Make a post when the 2nd edition is out, with all these errors and color issues corrected. Might take a peek then.
Xicon	Posted - 2008.07.03 12:15:00 - [380] Originally by: Chuck Tucker Is there any chance we can see these wonderful maps printed on plastic sheets or heavily laminated paper ? Mean, like a plastic playing cards stuff. Totally waterproof, and dry-erase marker friendly. Using marker is one thing I was always eager for. Then the map gets really "war-room" look. And BTW, can you please ask MMM publishing to consider LARGE Universe map (something like A0 format or greater). It would be a killer. A lot of ppl would buy it just for room deco. It's done. Issue #012 of E-ON - the official hard copy EVE Online magazine - comes with a HUGE (A1) map poster showing every region, all jumps, security status and Faction Warfare-enable regions, and every region includes ESM page number, so it complements you copy of the map book perfectly. Free with every copy of E-ON issue #012, now shipping. Publisher, E-ON http://www.eve-online.com/eon/ Issue #012 Now Shipping EVE Strategic Maps now shipping

Haakelen Gallente Genesis Rising	Posted - 2008.07.08 18:38:00 - [381] Bumping a worthy thread. Got mine yesterday, and it's quite impressive. Reminiscent of the kind of manuals you'd get from flight simulators in the mid-90s, or games like Wing Commander. Some of the nicest looking game-related printed material I've come across. And quite useful, too.
Castelo Branco Caldari Eye of God Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.10 14:48:00 - [382] Originally by: Caldreean Make a post when the 2nd edition is out, with all these errors and color issues corrected. Might take a peek then. Yes, I just waiting for second and revisated edition to buy it. Originally by: Chuck Tucker Is there any chance we can see these wonderful maps printed on plastic sheets or heavily laminated paper ? Mean, like a plastic playing cards stuff. Totally waterproof, and dry-erase marker friendly. And yes, if I have the option to choose the heavy plastic one, I really will option to it (even if the cost will be double). An dry-erase marker friendly will be awesome! After all, thank you Serenity
Captain Zienna Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.14 14:32:00 - [383] Will it ever be an option to pay for a PDF version of this ? it would be alot easier to maintain in the long run. We only live once, try to get the most of it before you blow up..
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.07.14 22:37:00 - [384] Originally by: Captain Zienna Will it ever be an option to pay for a PDF version of this ? it would be alot easier to maintain in the long run. There are no plans for a PDF version, the physical form is an important part of the usefulness of the maps. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Bloody Love	Posted - 2008.07.22 14:39:00 - [385] I don't know if it was mentioned already, too many pages to read it all , but the jump from Muvolailen to Jita is missing... Otherwise, great book
Dyvim Slorm Relentless Storm Cartel	Posted - 2008.07.24 12:54:00 - [386] Can someone tell the Eve Store about it shipping the next business day, order is still pending two business days after placing order.
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.07.26 12:54:00 - [387] Originally by: Bloody Love I don't know if it was mentioned already, too many pages to read it all , but the jump from Muvolailen to Jita is missing... Otherwise, great book Cheers :) ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.07.26 12:55:00 - [388] Originally by: Dyvim Slorm Edited by: Dyvim Slorm on 24/07/2008 14:23:26 Can someone tell the Eve Store about it shipping the next business day, order is still pending two business days after placing order. Edit: Just checked and it's now marked as shipped, you might want to change the ad in the sig though. Ships from the UK next business day, don't know if that makes a difference to how you count your days due to time-zone. Good to hear it was shipped promptly. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Lhasa Casp GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.31 09:54:00 - [389] Got mine in the mail today, about a week after ordering. The spiral binding and weight of the paper makes this feel like a real quality piece of goods. If you're like me, and already have a self-made binder with nicely printed downloaded maps - you'll be trading up when purchasing this book. Highly recommended.
Marie Trudeau Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.31 11:01:00 - [390] Definitely a great grab! I have been using the downloadable maps for some time, but having a printed resource is much handier than alt tabbing away to check a map. It's also an impressive looking product: a nice hard cover and the paper is quite thick and glossy for each map. Quite a good job, Serenity, thanks for the effort! --------------------------- Backstory at: [url=http://eve-search.com/thread/163363/page/1] here [/url]

Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.07.31 11:14:00 - [391] Edited by: Garia666 on 31/07/2008 11:14:18 I want to point out there is a free version available. Which you can download every system in pdf style. which has exactly the same or more information. Altough this one looks flashy i rather get the updated version of the website for free. Ill be nice to not @ the link but its out there ;) www.garia.net
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.08.01 17:01:00 - [392] Originally by: Lhasa Casp Got mine in the mail today, about a week after ordering. The spiral binding and weight of the paper makes this feel like a real quality piece of goods. If you're like me, and already have a self-made binder with nicely printed downloaded maps - you'll be trading up when purchasing this book. Highly recommended. Glad you like it, and particularly that you see it as an upgrade :) ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.08.02 06:56:00 - [393] Originally by: Marie Trudeau Definitely a great grab! I have been using the downloadable maps for some time, but having a printed resource is much handier than alt tabbing away to check a map. It's also an impressive looking product: a nice hard cover and the paper is quite thick and glossy for each map. Quite a good job, Serenity, thanks for the effort! Thanks Marie :) ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
J Squared	Posted - 2008.08.13 20:59:00 - [394] I knew I wanted to buy a copy of the mapbook once I saw all the great reviews and had the preview card in my copy of E-ON. Took me a bit to decide to commit the funds, so I go to the site with CC in hand only to see this: Quote: EVE Strategic Maps First Edition sold out. Pre-order now for Second Edition û coming soon. /sad First I heard about it selling out. When will the next batch be ready? and will it have any changes or corrections? Thanks, J¦
TheTrueHorror	Posted - 2008.08.14 12:35:00 - [395] Edited by: TheTrueHorror on 14/08/2008 12:35:24 How long does it take for this item to arrive to Australia? I ordered mine a while back and it still isnt here. Does the store use surface mail to ship overseas items?
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.08.14 18:08:00 - [396] Originally by: TheTrueHorror Edited by: TheTrueHorror on 14/08/2008 12:35:24 How long does it take for this item to arrive to Australia? I ordered mine a while back and it still isnt here. Does the store use surface mail to ship overseas items? Not sure for Australia. Please check it says shipped on http://store.eve-online.com/store/comersus_customerShowOrders.asp?redirecturl=comersus_customerShowOrders.asporder tracking, and contact eon [at] mmmpublishing.com if you are concerned. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.08.14 18:14:00 - [397] Originally by: J Squared I knew I wanted to buy a copy of the mapbook once I saw all the great reviews and had the preview card in my copy of E-ON. Took me a bit to decide to commit the funds, so I go to the site with CC in hand only to see this: Quote: EVE Strategic Maps First Edition sold out. Pre-order now for Second Edition û coming soon. /sad First I heard about it selling out. When will the next batch be ready? and will it have any changes or corrections? Thanks, J¦ It will have some small corrections and we are determining what changes(additions) will be included at the moment. A key part of the thinking on additions is to fit this into the needs of owners of the 1st edition. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.08.14 18:14:00 - [398] The first edition of EVE Strategic Maps is sold out! Don't miss out on the second edition. Pre-order yours now at the Eve-Online store. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Beatriz Branco	Posted - 2008.08.14 20:48:00 - [399] First of all, this is not pointed personally to no one, please Serenity do not take it as personal attack. I am very anxious to a second edition, and I really want to grab one of this maps. However I only will buy it if the mistakes / misprints be fixed / corrected. I did not buy it for the first time because I know that (usually) fist edition always get some errors and readers tend to point this errors to editors. I am not asking for a new type of maps, I am asking for ôcorrect the errors that many plays already point right here in this threadö and update the second edition with the outposts already build until now. There is not point of print a new edition with old data / old mistakes. That is it, and thank you for your remarkable job to make these maps.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2008.08.14 21:46:00 - [400] Are we going to get a sticker pack to make neat looking updates for added outposts and such? New Ship Idea: Tender Supply Ship, The Logistics Sister

Kelron Queldine Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.08.14 22:13:00 - [401] Do you have a rough estimate for when the 2nd edition will be shipping?
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.08.15 19:19:00 - [402] Originally by: Beatriz Branco First of all, this is not pointed personally to no one, please Serenity do not take it as personal attack. I am very anxious to a second edition, and I really want to grab one of this maps. However I only will buy it if the mistakes / misprints be fixed / corrected. I did not buy it for the first time because I know that (usually) fist edition always get some errors and readers tend to point this errors to editors. I am not asking for a new type of maps, I am asking for ôcorrect the errors that many plays already point right here in this threadö and update the second edition with the outposts already build until now. There is not point of print a new edition with old data / old mistakes. That is it, and thank you for your remarkable job to make these maps. Hi Beatriz, Thanks for your feedback. The answer is Yes to all your questions: - Corrections: I compiled a master list of all corrections in this thread/outpost alert thread and email. There are two categories: Programmatic corrections: eg. Wrong colour for a sec status. I am updating my database queries to ensure the type of error is caught. This means that not only the specific errors posted here are caught, but any errors of the same type are caught. Design improvements: eg. Difficult to read station icons. These will be dealt with on the design template, effecting all icons on all pages. - Outposts Built: All outposts built at time of going to print will be on the printed page. Stickers will be included as per 1st edition. There will also be some additional content provided, depending on the outcome of feedback from current Map owners. As soon as I have this information, a complete list of Edition 1.1 features will be released. /Serenity. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store \| eve-maps.com
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.08.15 19:20:00 - [403] Originally by: Nova Fox Are we going to get a sticker pack to make neat looking updates for added outposts and such? The current book already has stickers for placement of outposts, and this will be included in the updated version. Is that what you were referring to? ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store \| eve-maps.com
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.08.15 19:29:00 - [404] Originally by: Kelron Queldine Do you have a rough estimate for when the 2nd edition will be shipping? I've not received the print/ship deadlines at the moment, however the update work is already going and as soon as I know dates I'll post it up on this thread. Roughly (and I make no commitment to this until I hear dates from MMM Publishing) For the first print run it took: 7 days for CCP approval + 10 days for actual printing and start shipping all pre-orders. I've already started the updated design, but not received the time it's booked in for printing. As soon as I know more, I'll post up! ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store \| eve-maps.com
Pufnstuf	Posted - 2008.08.16 10:02:00 - [405] Hi Serenity I received my copy of the EVE Map book and I first want to say how well detailed and easy to use this book is, it makes navigating and finding locations much easier then the F 10 map that is built into the eve game. Second the design of the book is first rate, the use of a black background works well with the flow of colors used to highlite each type of jumps and systems. I would highly recommend this book to any eve player. Thanks again for all your hard work pufnstuf
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.08.19 20:10:00 - [406] Thanks Pufnstuf!
Sythyss Twilight Trading Twilight Imperium	Posted - 2008.08.20 07:21:00 - [407] awesome. pure. awesome. epic. win. go serenity!!
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.08.21 17:53:00 - [408] Originally by: Sythyss awesome. pure. awesome. epic. win. go serenity!! Cheers!
Neermark JotunHeim Hird X13 Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.21 18:22:00 - [409] How many prints are you making this time more than 1st edition or the same ? I really like my map....
Stins Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Operations	Posted - 2008.08.21 20:32:00 - [410] I got the map as well, and it rocks! Yet, I still manage to get lost once in a while so I wrote a quick php page that will tell you the page and the grid of your current location. example! It works pretty simple.. Just download the source below and upload it to a server with php support. No database needed, it will read the grid from the csv that is included. Once you got it uploaded, put your ingame browser to the page, and pin it down. After every session change the page will reload and will tell you exactly where on the map you are :) Download! Stins, ISS Finance Director

Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.09.02 23:34:00 - [411] Ok, Inspired by Stins, I've created a beta version of a 2D mini-map viewer. What is that you say? Check out the 2D EVE Mini Map Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Demench	Posted - 2008.09.03 02:41:00 - [412] The IGB is cool and all, but is there a way to make the image larger? It's extremely tiny as is, and unable to even come close to reading or making out any detail whatsoever.
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.09.03 06:23:00 - [413] Originally by: Demench The IGB is cool and all, but is there a way to make the image larger? It's extremely tiny as is, and unable to even come close to reading or making out any detail whatsoever. The focus at the moment is on providing a visual reference to the grid-system in EVE Strategic Maps. Making it larger wouldn't make it possible to view/keep on the overview - since it would consume the entire screen space. What I will look into is how to make a "zoom" option, to show more detail on the current system you're in and surrounding systems :) ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store \| eve-maps.com
Amator Vialis Gallente Tenichigo Kaigun Spectrum Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.03 08:45:00 - [414] Nice and functional.All information is where i need it to be.Maps + 2D minimap = Winning Combination. O/ Serenity Steele
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.09.03 18:21:00 - [415] Originally by: Amator Vialis Nice and functional.All information is where i need it to be.Maps + 2D minimap = Winning Combination. O/ Serenity Steele Cheers Amator :) ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store \| eve-maps.com
Demench	Posted - 2008.09.04 01:16:00 - [416] Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: Demench The IGB is cool and all, but is there a way to make the image larger? It's extremely tiny as is, and unable to even come close to reading or making out any detail whatsoever. The focus at the moment is on providing a visual reference to the grid-system in EVE Strategic Maps. Making it larger wouldn't make it possible to view/keep on the overview - since it would consume the entire screen space. What I will look into is how to make a "zoom" option, to show more detail on the current system you're in and surrounding systems :) Roger. I kinda deduced that after thinking about it for a while, but nice to hear you're looking into zoom functionality.
Maxxamo	Posted - 2008.09.09 22:32:00 - [417] Serenity, Any idea on when the maps will ship? It's been a month or so now, and while I don't usually mind waiting I am about to retract and just get used to the free versions. Any estimation on date? Cheers!
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.09.13 16:02:00 - [418] Originally by: Maxxamo Serenity, Any idea on when the maps will ship? It's been a month or so now, and while I don't usually mind waiting I am about to retract and just get used to the free versions. Any estimation on date? Cheers! Hi Maxxamo, The books are due back from the printer on coming Friday (about 5 days). Not sure on the low-sec poster yet, but expect +/- 2 days on that, so should be shipping within a week. Soon as I know details I'll post up, also on the site. Serenity :) ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store \| eve-maps.com
Amator Vialis Gallente Tenichigo Kaigun Spectrum Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.16 07:36:00 - [419] Status of my ESM has been changed to shipped. Woohoo!
SiJira	Posted - 2008.09.22 17:27:00 - [420] hey these are really nice Trashed sig, Shark was here

Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.09.23 22:29:00 - [421] Originally by: Amator Vialis Status of my ESM has been changed to shipped. Woohoo! Yep, they're out there! ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store \| eve-maps.com
Aliedora	Posted - 2008.09.25 15:55:00 - [422] is the new version out or not? if so, what's changed in it?
Vync Caldari Sex Education	Posted - 2008.09.25 22:33:00 - [423] Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: Aliedora is the new version out or not? if so, what's changed in it? Yes, It's out! I've blogged a list of changes on my blog covering the 2D Eve maps. Plus it comes with a free A1 poster for low-sec, which shows all the relevant low sec systems from all maps :) /Serenity. awesomeness, ordered. I was just a little confused by the store page which still says Pre-order.
F'lan Ker DAB G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.09.26 10:23:00 - [424] S! My order slammed into the mailbox today, a very happy camper here. Nice work, will come to good use. And those thinking of price, 18Ç is NOTHING if you comapre how much goes to a bar, a pub or whatever ;) Thank you a lot, another happy customer. ----------------------------------------------------- ~Let Chaos Entwine On Defenceless Soil~
Aliedora	Posted - 2008.09.26 12:30:00 - [425] well, I've ordered, too. loved my 1st edition ESM, and by the looks of it, the second edition is even better. many thanks to Serenity Steele for hard work.
ZephyrLexx Caldari Earth Federation Space Forces	Posted - 2008.09.26 13:47:00 - [426] could have had a little heads up / advertising that a 2nd edition was on it's way. I only ordered my "first edition" a couple months ago and now it's obsolete. thanks a lot for wasting my money
kayentelva Minmatar Remedy Inc.	Posted - 2008.09.26 15:17:00 - [427] FYI the quote on the minimap page has an extra 'S' in the address which could throw some people off: "How MINIMAPS.EVE-MAPS.COM works" it should be: "How MINIMAP.EVE-MAPS.COM works"

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2008.09.26 21:12:00 - [428] Received a copy of the maps today, the smell of new maps is... awesome. Secure 3rd party service ■ Veldspar

Amator Vialis Gallente Tenichigo Kaigun Spectrum Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.01 06:58:00 - [429] Maps finaly arrived, they are.... beautiful.
Aliedora	Posted - 2008.10.02 21:16:00 - [430] the new ESM is pure awesomeness. got mine today and I have to say, the changes are great! many thanks for full system index. only one question: what does gray color in the system name signify? some systems in index are grayed out and I can't figure out why.

Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.10.09 02:41:00 - [431] Originally by: Aliedora the new ESM is pure awesomeness. got mine today and I have to say, the changes are great! many thanks for full system index. only one question: what does gray color in the system name signify? some systems in index are grayed out and I can't figure out why. Glad you like it :) Greyed out systems in the index; These are strategically important systems which appear on "other" region maps. eg. - A high-sec system near the edge of 0.0 would be on several other maps - A system with a 0.0 outpost near the edge of a map would appear on other maps - A 0.0 outpost next to a low-sec system would appear on other maps - A system that connected several regions would appear on several maps ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store \| eve-maps.com
Tari Redhel Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.10 20:48:00 - [432] Edited by: Tari Redhel on 10/10/2008 20:53:31 For some reason the minimap doesn't show for me. The most I get is an empty border :-( Further investigation reveals that no gifs are visible to me in the igb. Jpg's work fine though.
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.10.11 17:06:00 - [433] Originally by: Tari Redhel Edited by: Tari Redhel on 10/10/2008 20:53:31 For some reason the minimap doesn't show for me. The most I get is an empty border :-( Further investigation reveals that no gifs are visible to me in the igb. Jpg's work fine though. Ah good to know - thanks for determining the reason as well; That's a pretty easy conversion for me to make. BTW - are you on PC/Mac or Unix client? ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store \| eve-maps.com
ZiG Ziegler	Posted - 2008.10.14 18:43:00 - [434] Has anyone from Canada been lucky enough to receive theirs yet? I have yet to have the pleasure of reading mine. A good friend of mine said that his first edition took over six weeks to arrive. :(
Tumbles Blue Labs Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.10.19 08:25:00 - [435] Just took a quick look at the Faction Warfare map: http://www.eve-maps.com/download/factionwarfare/GallenteCaldariFactionalwarMapv1-1.pdf Heads up the Red and the Green colors are really close for a r/g color blind person. I would consider changing the brightness of the green color and making it a bit darker or increasing the width of the high sec lines. Also i really like how the figure ground is laid out with the region labels sitting below the system routes and labels. nice work. cheers, Tumbles
Beatriz Branco	Posted - 2008.10.30 12:26:00 - [436] Originally by: Tari Redhel Edited by: Tari Redhel on 10/10/2008 20:53:31 For some reason the minimap doesn't show for me. The most I get is an empty border :-( Further investigation reveals that no gifs are visible to me in the igb. Jpg's work fine though. I have the same problem with IGB. No image when load minimap. Btw, work fine in an out of game browser.
RedLion Caldari Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.30 13:21:00 - [437] Eve-maps.com (alliance ranking) seem to not update properly in like half a month! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The Gallenteans must be destroyed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.11.04 23:14:00 - [438] Originally by: RedLion Eve-maps.com (alliance ranking) seem to not update properly in like half a month! It's fixed. There was an alliance with a NULL value for the Alliance tag in the API. It's back on track now!
deltarising	Posted - 2008.11.20 01:17:00 - [439] some complaints: some hi sec systems use hard to see colors and the symbols are small. Also what the heck is up with some 0.4 systems colored green as in hi sec?
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.12.02 21:08:00 - [440] Edited by: Serenity Steele on 02/12/2008 21:09:08 Originally by: deltarising some complaints: some hi sec systems use hard to see colors and the symbols are small. Also what the heck is up with some 0.4 systems colored green as in hi sec? These sound like comments from the first version (blue cover), where I missed a query to check color vs. security status. Can you name some specific systems? The 2nd version (orange/red colour on sale now) fixed this with additional database checks before going to print. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store \| eve-maps.com

Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.12.03 23:04:00 - [441] Originally by: Chribba Received a copy of the maps today, the smell of new maps is... awesome. Smells good is always good :) ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store \| eve-maps.com
Camino Nachtmeister	Posted - 2008.12.18 14:21:00 - [442] I received my orange edition yesterday, started to "work with it" for several hours - just cant get enough of it. the maps aint just a fan article, but a solid peace of "immersion" into Eve. The other thing I did beside my map-study was to set up a 2nd monitor, to be able to a) fly safe, b) reading the map and c) looking from time to time to the legend as long as i am not use to and to later to have the universe-map "at hand". maybe You will think of 1-2 small "inlets" to the next edition - small seperate, "loose" cards with the universe and the legend? meanwhile i ll help myself with selfmade printouts, carefully laminated ;-) funny idea with the stickers to update outposts one last remark: the in game minimaps are still beta? unfortunately i cant actually make use of them, cuz they are way too small! I am playing on a high-rez 30inch display - and as the maps seem not be "scaleable" - they have the size of stamps. I can read the "map-title", Sinq Liason e.g., the rest is a highly detailed "abstract" of a lot of lines and a yellow square. Any plans for a kind of "zoom"?
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2008.12.18 19:52:00 - [443] Originally by: Camino Nachtmeister ... one last remark: the in game minimaps are still beta? unfortunately i cant actually make use of them, cuz they are way too small! I am playing on a high-rez 30inch display - and as the maps seem not be "scaleable" - they have the size of stamps. I can read the "map-title", Sinq Liason e.g., the rest is a highly detailed "abstract" of a lot of lines and a yellow square. Any plans for a kind of "zoom"? Thanks for your feedback Camino, I'm really pleased that you like it :) Separate card for the legend/universe should be easy enough to do by changing the order of legend/index/universe map, so Universe/Legend can be pulled out no problem. The mini-map I could add a "big/small" option to. The idea was really to make it quick to find the location on the printed maps - so just look at the cluster of lines/shapes and then see it quickly on the printed detail map. Do you need more rez, or is it ok if it's still abstract? ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store \| eve-maps.com
Camino Nachtmeister	Posted - 2008.12.20 14:13:00 - [444] Milady Steele, the idea of a flip-out page for the legend and/or universe overview map for the printed map-book is even greater (instead of a loose extra card/page). For the in game mini map: if thats the idea of getting an ingame-abstract (didnt came up to my mind) as a quick reference for the printed map - fine, cool, perfect. As I stated i can read the "title" of the actual map/region i am in. And the actual system (name) including page and grid is listed (for convenience) in the top line of the minimap window. Thats perfect - mea culpa (that i couldnt "read" the mini map better before, i thought i had to interact "more" with it). That given, your map-tool "performs" as good as i can think of! sincerely
Joven Ravyn Gallente UK Corp	Posted - 2008.12.24 01:40:00 - [445] I have the Blue Cover of EvE Maps and I've only really just started to use it (had the maps for nearly a year i think) due to my EvE time being on and off while going thru some life stuff. Just wondering is there a huge amount of changes to the newer version (orange) or am i Better off waiting till after march when all this new stuff is going to happen and you'll end up doing another v3 of EvE maps? (or you looking at a yearly thing with EvE maps) I know EvE maps isn't a huge amount of money (price of a hardback book in the UK) but if only a little amount has been updated, then it loses it value for money appeal. Don't get me wrong, EvE maps is a wonderful tool and a brilliant book, I may not have used it as much as some people probably have but I can see the time and effort that's gone into it :) so do keep up the good work :) ______________ Thanks Joven Ravyn
DJ Geist	Posted - 2008.12.24 02:04:00 - [446] I ordered this and I like it. The legend takes some getting used to, but is logical and consistently applied. The maps themselves look beautiful and it is all bound nicely in a close-wire binding. I am concerned about leafing through the maps in the midst of gameplay, which is different from when I flip through the book with clean hands in pristince conditions. So I wanted to see if I could undo the wire and laminate the pages, but no go. So for now I will scan the maps and laminate new pages. I would pay a little bit more (just a little more - don't gouge us please) if there was a "you can flip through these maps with oily pizza fingers all you want" laminated edition
Kintonar Flitlanus Pear of Anguish	Posted - 2008.12.24 06:20:00 - [447] These maps are impressive. Easy to read, understand, and navigate. Something like this really does open up the universe to you. You can see into your enemies backyard without ever visiting.
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2009.01.08 20:50:00 - [448] Originally by: Joven Ravyn I have the Blue Cover of EvE Maps and I've only really just started to use it (had the maps for nearly a year i think) due to my EvE time being on and off while going thru some life stuff. Just wondering is there a huge amount of changes to the newer version (orange) or am i Better off waiting till after march when all this new stuff is going to happen and you'll end up doing another v3 of EvE maps? (or you looking at a yearly thing with EvE maps) I know EvE maps isn't a huge amount of money (price of a hardback book in the UK) but if only a little amount has been updated, then it loses it value for money appeal. Don't get me wrong, EvE maps is a wonderful tool and a brilliant book, I may not have used it as much as some people probably have but I can see the time and effort that's gone into it :) so do keep up the good work :) There are a few changes that make it easier to use (Index at the back, better contrast for low-lighting conditions, small error corrections, and more "off region" systems) and also it comes with a low-sec poster. There are only a few small and insignificant changes to the map. The Blue-Cover original from April 2008 still does the job and you can download the index and print your own here. The Grid-references are also the same, so you can use the in-game minimap My advice is wait till you play EVE some more and then decide if you really get into it again or have poor lighting at your desk. The poster should be available separately, but CCP store is still soon(tm) on creating the order option.
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2009.01.19 21:16:00 - [449] Originally by: DJ Geist I ordered this and I like it. The legend takes some getting used to, but is logical and consistently applied. The maps themselves look beautiful and it is all bound nicely in a close-wire binding. I am concerned about leafing through the maps in the midst of gameplay, which is different from when I flip through the book with clean hands in pristince conditions. So I wanted to see if I could undo the wire and laminate the pages, but no go. So for now I will scan the maps and laminate new pages. I would pay a little bit more (just a little more - don't gouge us please) if there was a "you can flip through these maps with oily pizza fingers all you want" laminated edition I'll talk to the publisher about it. We initially investigated laminating all the pages, but it increases the cost dramatically - if you have access to a laminating machine (eg. via work etc.) then its probably cheaper to do it that way (since the added cost is 0 from a personal perspective).
Serenity Steele Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information	Posted - 2009.01.19 21:16:00 - [450] Originally by: Kintonar Flitlanus These maps are impressive. Easy to read, understand, and navigate. Something like this really does open up the universe to you. You can see into your enemies backyard without ever visiting. Great to hear - it does what it's meant to do! :)

Rowan Opterapt	Posted - 2009.01.22 21:52:00 - [451] Got it. It is real nice and I like it a lot. Here are a few suggestions to improve the 3rd edition :) - Make the inter-region jump lines more different, right now the only difference between a constellation and a region jump is pink vs red; very hard to see, especially in low light. Besides, who cares about constellations anyways :) - I love the black background and as an aesthetic choice, it is perfect. If you decide to go more practical, a lighter color that you can write on would be better. I am still undecided which I would prefer, but when I look at the Post-It notes I have in there, maybe I'd prefer to have a lighter background. - The index should be split in two parts, the empire index and the nullsec index. Mostly because it takes me three times as long as it should to find something in empire because of all the nullsec system designations getting in the way. And I have yet to be looking for a system that I didn't know if it was in empire or nullsec. In any case I think it would still be faster to look in both indexes than to look in the current one, each index would be more uniform. Cheers
Nikita Alterana Gallente The Antikythera Mechanism	Posted - 2009.01.22 22:01:00 - [452] I get this feeling your going to need a new book after M10
Kaptain Kruncher	Posted - 2009.01.23 22:50:00 - [453] Diggin' mah maps. Bought one for my bro too. Thanks for makin a quality product Serenity.
Jack Calypo	Posted - 2009.01.26 10:56:00 - [454] Last week I bought the maps, do they include the new Apocrypha expansion
CzeroX	Posted - 2009.02.10 07:08:00 - [455] Just a small correction to http://www.eve-maps.com/download/factionwarfare/GallenteCaldariFactionalwarMapv1-1.pdf version 1.1, july 08 Onne connects directly to Deninard Sorry 4 mentioning it in case you have already corrected this in advance :)
Cebit	Posted - 2009.03.02 09:29:00 - [456] is the ingame 2d map still working???Cant get past that login screen....got the eve-maps book,and this is a great suplement to it...
Mrs Snowman	Posted - 2009.03.02 09:46:00 - [457] How long until the second Faction warfare map ?
Lemming Lottery	Posted - 2009.04.27 22:13:00 - [458] Is eve-maps site still being updated? Outpost Alert Data updated: Sovereignty: 19/03/2009 Alliance Members: 19/03/2009 Outpost Ownership: 19/03/2009 New Outposts: 19/03/2009
Kry Nanase Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.05.04 22:55:00 - [459] I don't know if this has already been said. I just bought the second version of evemaps, and official outpost updates webpage says there is 1 in N7-KGJ, page 37, K1. It should be K11. Two more outposts are reported in page 37, ESM K1, 5C-RPA and GB-6X5. However 5C-RPA is in K12 and GB-6X5 in K11 (there are no systems in K1) Also, does anyone know the meaning of the white A in Amarr, Sarum Prime and some other systems? I can't find it in the legend, but it may be my fault, I just got them today.
Zaraki KenpachiSan	Posted - 2009.05.11 21:06:00 - [460] I received my copy of ESM 2nd edition today. Well, let me say that every good strategic map that want to be called so, should really be plastic-coated. Yes, every page plastic-coated, so that we could be able to write and delete with proper markers. /sad

Furrot	Posted - 2009.05.27 01:18:00 - [461] Hi, I just wanted to say that I really like my copy of the 2nd edition. I actually understand the tactical layout of my home system a lot better now and have a better idea of what to do in each region. I like it a lot, but I feel the one thing it could use more of is detail in the legend. Other people have mentioned things like the greyed out system names in the index or the border on the grid being different colours and I think I would have felt a little less confusion if some things were a little more clear. It took me a while to figure out what the difference between a Station and an Outpost was for example. I have few questions still. What is the difference between a red 10 and a red -1 system? Why are the names of some regions such as Essence yellow instead of of white like the rest? What do the skull and crossbones icons means on the Universe map? I also feel like some of the basics should be expanded in the legend to help new players. I confused the comon enemy guide for sovereignty at one point. Explaining that each of the racial icons at the top mean one thing and what the damage type icons mean would tie things together for new players nicely. I also still don't understand what the difference between cosmos, beacons and complex is and would have liked a one sentence description perhaps explaining why these resources are valuable. Thanks for all the hard work, I'm definitely going to recomend it to everyone I know in EVE.
Fafnagul Caldari Insurrection Inc	Posted - 2009.06.10 14:35:00 - [462] I guess I'm slow today, or obtuse, or whatever... I just brought up the beta mini-map in the in-game browser, and for the life of me, I can't find any way to resize the map to a readable size. The browser never allows me to resize the small mini-map window no matter where I move the mouse cursor. So, just color me as stupid today, but someone please enlighten me as to what the hell I'm doing wrong!!!
Vintnor	Posted - 2009.06.17 18:32:00 - [463] As a beginer to EVE at the new year I went and purchased teh maps. Now I am extreemly glad as I am planning my first POS. With the maps I have been able to pin point resources and links to systems. Thanks it made a NOOB have a bit more infromation to help with the journey called EVE. -Vintnor DiEisen
McBrite Smegnet Incorporated	Posted - 2009.06.24 15:52:00 - [464] Out of stock? When will it be back? http://www.battleclinic.com/kill_sigs/signature_display.php?string=McBrite
phatpauly	Posted - 2009.07.20 13:34:00 - [465] would be nice if the ****ing thing worked in game. i've been trying to get it working for the last hour
Kurunto Wormhole Organized Reconnaissance Movement	Posted - 2009.07.26 21:24:00 - [466] Looks like there's a third edition in the store now, no updates in this thread or on eve-maps. Care to provide info on what's different than the first two?
SilverSwann	Posted - 2009.07.28 13:25:00 - [467] I love the eve strategic map's. and i have found them very usefull, but i dislike the fact that when you update the outposts with the stickers you always cover over vital system information. if there could be a way to mark the new outposts without concealingthis info then that would make the map far more useable.
Zahn Retmas Caldari BIG	Posted - 2009.08.23 21:56:00 - [468] Serenity Steele Just recieved EVE Strategic Maps Edition 3 in the mail about 3 days ago. Great product, I love it. There is an error on page 21 though as the map shows a connection between Murema and Airshaz in Domain. It's just a small error and with the sheer number of systems and stargates in the game it's not a big deal. I have been to the system (as I don't trust the auto-pilot as far as I could throw it) and there isn't a connection there. Thought you should know so you can keep updating this outstanding product!! "Try not, do or do not, there is no try!' - Ancient green guy...
Veldya Guristari Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.08.24 00:10:00 - [469] Originally by: Chribba If it is anything close to the one you showed me at the fanfest - it will be super and I'll def try get my hands on a copy. They need a Chribba special edition which tells you how many Velds rocks are in the system you jumped into.
Crimsoneer Gallente Knowledge Stick Station	Posted - 2009.09.21 11:07:00 - [470] I've ordered edition 3...Should get here one day, but the post is being tremendously crap right now so god knows. I'll post up when I find out if anything new and exciting has been added. --------------------------------------- Pods and Pills, a low sec blog



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