Originally by: Commander Lorne

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Edited by: Commander Lorne on 30/04/2009 12:51:55
Edited by: Commander Lorne on 30/04/2009 12:51:04
When it says under the official eve wiki page on ambulation about it being in the 2009 time-frame does that mean for sure it will be released in 2009?
Also is there going to be a winter expansion for eve?
Saying this cos I've been looking everywhere for a bit of news on ambulation.

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Originally by: Wubinator

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Originally by: Ruze

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Originally by: Crystal Six

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50+ pages? Yikes! In case these ideas haven't been thrown in there, here's a couple (if they have been, just consider me seconding them! ;) )

Every button you can currently click on in the station screen (repair, insurance, medical, bounty office, agents, etc, perhaps even hangar) should be places you need to travel to within the station to interact with them. These areas would be in addition to new areas, like the bar. Maybe some agents would be found IN the bar, depending on the time perhaps.

The game's realism should carry into station ambulation. Nail down those mechanics in stations and develop those mechanics so that eventually, people would be able to enter structures other than stations.

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I agree. Don't change the way it can be done sitting in ship at the moment, just add it in.

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I disagree, they always said that the people that do not want to use Ambulation will not be affected by it. When you force people to walk around to get an agent mission or find a repairshop that rule has been thrown out the door.

They should not at all change much ... just add new things people can do if they want to do that.

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Originally by: Spartus Raile

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Originally by: Aricaan

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Funny thing for me is I hang out in low pop systems, which means the stations are going to be empty!

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Stations will have AI characters running around, and hopefully your corp will be joining you for meetings/drinking sessions/gambling. :)

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Originally by: Kyuudousha

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Used to play this game, some years ago.. 2005 or 2004, don't recall exactly. Except for there being a lot more ship types and suchlike not all that much has changed really so I was quite pleased when I heard about "ambulation" One of the biggest "holes" in Eve is social interaction, just not the same thing if you can't meet face to face. But also... it instantly occurred to me that they should take it a step further. Why limit it to stations? there are mines, road houses, labs, slave camps that we should be able to enter.. or board.. maybe even other ships! It could be to meet friends on the bridge of their ship. Enter a roadhouse to meet with mercs or just have a beer and listen to the band, a slave pen to buy slaves... And it could be made into alternative ways to solve missions. Instead of blowing up that damn habitat, board it and fight your way through to the boss infps style.

EVE is STILL a rather empty place in spite of it all.

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Originally by: Kyuudousha

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Used to play this game, some years ago.. 2005 or 2004, don't recall exactly. Except for there being a lot more ship types and suchlike not all that much has changed really so I was quite pleased when I heard about "ambulation" One of the biggest "holes" in Eve is social interaction, just not the same thing if you can't meet face to face. But also... it instantly occurred to me that they should take it a step further. Why limit it to stations? there are mines, road houses, labs, slave camps that we should be able to enter.. or board.. maybe even other ships! It could be to meet friends on the bridge of their ship. Enter a roadhouse to meet with mercs or just have a beer and listen to the band, a slave pen to buy slaves... And it could be made into alternative ways to solve missions. Instead of blowing up that damn habitat, board it and fight your way through to the boss infps style.

EVE is STILL a rather empty place in spite of it all.

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Originally by: B1FF

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Originally by: Wubinator

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Originally by: Ruze

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Originally by: Crystal Six

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50+ pages? Yikes! In case these ideas haven't been thrown in there, here's a couple (if they have been, just consider me seconding them! ;) )

Every button you can currently click on in the station screen (repair, insurance, medical, bounty office, agents, etc, perhaps even hangar) should be places you need to travel to within the station to interact with them. These areas would be in addition to new areas, like the bar. Maybe some agents would be found IN the bar, depending on the time perhaps.

The game's realism should carry into station ambulation. Nail down those mechanics in stations and develop those mechanics so that eventually, people would be able to enter structures other than stations.

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I agree. Don't change the way it can be done sitting in ship at the moment, just add it in.

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I disagree, they always said that the people that do not want to use Ambulation will not be affected by it. When you force people to walk around to get an agent mission or find a repairshop that rule has been thrown out the door.

They should not at all change much ... just add new things people can do if they want to do that.

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Which is kind of nonsensical. When offered two ways to do something with the exact same end result, a quick way or a long way, people are going to pick the quick way.

Sure the long way will be fun for novelty sake a handful of times but people will revert to the quick way.

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Originally by: B1FF

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Originally by: Wubinator

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Originally by: Ruze

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Originally by: Crystal Six

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50+ pages? Yikes! In case these ideas haven't been thrown in there, here's a couple (if they have been, just consider me seconding them! ;) )

Every button you can currently click on in the station screen (repair, insurance, medical, bounty office, agents, etc, perhaps even hangar) should be places you need to travel to within the station to interact with them. These areas would be in addition to new areas, like the bar. Maybe some agents would be found IN the bar, depending on the time perhaps.

The game's realism should carry into station ambulation. Nail down those mechanics in stations and develop those mechanics so that eventually, people would be able to enter structures other than stations.

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I agree. Don't change the way it can be done sitting in ship at the moment, just add it in.

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I disagree, they always said that the people that do not want to use Ambulation will not be affected by it. When you force people to walk around to get an agent mission or find a repairshop that rule has been thrown out the door.

They should not at all change much ... just add new things people can do if they want to do that.

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Which is kind of nonsensical. When offered two ways to do something with the exact same end result, a quick way or a long way, people are going to pick the quick way.

Sure the long way will be fun for novelty sake a handful of times but people will revert to the quick way.

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Originally by: Alora Venoda

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Edited by: Alora Venoda on 30/04/2009 19:13:08
there is a lot of potential for new kinds of agent missions inside stations...

detective missions - talk to different NPCs to get clues and track down an NPC or item (maybe even within a system or constellation). once found, interact with it to complete the objective.

meeting - meet a specific NPC in a specific place in a specific station, and possibly give or collect items.

delivery/pickup - drop off or pickup an item at a specific place inside a station.

recruiting - talk to different NPCs to recruit them (ie- gather up the homeless laying about), and then bring them back to your agent.


and then if they add special stations at exploration sites or mission complexes, you could go inside to meet with some NPC or complete some objective...

or what if you could go inside those casino modules you sometimes see floating around?

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Sometimes the quick way is stopping by that particular service on your way out.

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And you're adding a little
more complexity for a much more interesting environment. I don't see it as trouble. Sure people will do most
of that in their ships but it will make the inside of a station much more useful and fun to explore.

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I hate it when content is there that you can't interact with.

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Originally by: Aiolus

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i guess someone has asked that allready, but going through 54 pages to find it out is sick.
so, WHEN are we going to see this feature actualy implemented? I watched that video over a year ago and no more feedback have come to my attention since, which is strange given the fact that there are so many official announcementfrom devs about other smaller matters, but nothing on this.

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And to give my side of view about this... i totaly love this ambulation feature, and i beleive that in order to contribute to the realism of EVE, all station services should be accessed from in-station rooms by your avatar. This might apear much uncomfortable to most, but in the long term, i like it better. Maybe the only features that should still be used from within your ship should be fitting/hangar.

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Another thing i liked is the feature that will let you see the traffic outside the station. This is awsome and will give the ability to actualy see if your station is camped by hostiles outside. (isn't it stupid to be in a station and have no means to perceive whats going on outside? wtf...)

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And another idea, not sure if someone has allready posted it: Station defence. For example, guns mounted on the station to shoot hostiles, and even player-owned (and financed) NPCs orbiting the station would make an excellent addition (something like 2-3 BS plus 2-3 support wouldn't mean much to unbalance the 0.0 PVP but it would contribute a lot to the game realism).

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I read somwhere about scale issues. Yes, stations should become MUCH bigger if you want to effectively convince people that an infinite amount of capital ships can dock in...

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Rentable apartments, for corps to use as offices, or individuals as... "private" places to have "fun" ;-)

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The Shantytown Initiative

Allowing individual players to buy, anchor and maintain their own housing module would enrich the EVE universe and serve as an easy bottom rung on the Starbase-ownership ladder. This could of course open up a whole can of worms, so weÆre proceeding with caution here.

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Note: For me this feature is the most important expansion ever in this game, so devs give more food for thought and make sure it comes to us as fast as posible (\o/ can't wait!!! \o/)

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Note2: Dont forget that after this you have the planetary flight project to complete SOON and later on the planetary stations SOON because there are a lot more MMOs out there ready to kick in and you are not doing a very good work on bringing new features fast enough atm. If you can't compete, they will put you out of business and i'd hate to see EVE losing popularity, its my favorite game.

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Originally by: The BringerofOrder

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Morning all,


Fighting/Shooting in stations;

First off i know CCP have stated they won't be doing it at first. But i have to ask this.

Why the frig are so many people against it? The reason i see put fourth so often is that of your a member of the elite, why would you dirty yourself with something so low as shooting someone with your own hands? Which i in no way shape or form see as a valid argument. Gods killed and warred with each other all the time, why wouldnt a demi god?

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The Winter Expansion

We will be reporting on the winter expansion as it draws closer. All I can say, is that it is focused on sovereignty and you will not be able to walk in it. Check on the dev blogs in the weeks and months to come for more updates. Those who are into RSS and those kind of things can also subscribe to our RSS feeds.

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Originally by: Caelum Dominus

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This is internet spaceship game, .

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Originally by: Serpents smile

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And to give my side of view about this... i totaly love this ambulation feature, and i beleive that in order to contribute to the realism of EVE, all station services should be accessed from in-station rooms by your avatar. This might apear much uncomfortable to most, but in the long term, i like it better. Maybe the only features that should still be used from within your ship should be fitting/hangar.

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There will be, at least from the start only a few stations with access to WiS.

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Originally by: Neesa Corrinne

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I just wanted to stop by this thread and put my two cents in real quick.

When I started playing EVE almost four years ago, it was a spaceship game where everyone had a little picture that everyone else could look at. Your sex didn't mean squat, because your spaceship didn't grow boobs if you picked a female picture.

So I picked a female picture. Mind you, it wasn't an avatar at that point and there were ZERO plans in the works in 2005 for us to ever have avatars based off of those pictures. So here we are four years later and we're going to have avatars based off our pictures. Now if this was something I had been aware of four years ago, I would have picked a male avatar instead.

What I want is a refund on my sex and the choice to change my name to reflect my sex. If CCP wants to add a permanent link to my old picture and name to my bio as a result of changing my sex and name, then I'm perfectly cool with that, but I really have no desire to walk around in stations as a chick.

CCP keeps throwing ridiculously game changing crap into this game patch after patch with no recourse for the players except to completely remap a new set of skills. This, however, is different. I can't simply remap my attributes and spend 6 months training a new sex, I'm stuck with what I have.

And no, making a male alt isn't good enough. I want my main, with my skills and my corporation and my alliance... except I don't want to be a chick now that our little meaningless thumbnail portraits are going to be playable avatars.

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