This is only the beginning.

What will follow:

- Beta clone 5,000 AUR
- racial cross skill certificate 10,000 AUR
- fly a Battlecruiser for a week? 3,000 AUR
- T2 Weapon training certificate 15,000 AUR
- summon a NPC-Titan for 1 hour 5,000 AUR (this might go too far )

Enjoy.

Except it's being marketed everywhere as free to play. Evidently CCP called it free-to-play on the press release, at least.

So essentially it's a bait and switch scheme.....

OK everyone, what do you think of this:

One day of Omega clone activation: 200 Aurum.

This would be good for those who can only free up enough time for one or two play sessions a week. But I am not sure it would be good for the game.

one problem i see is that the gallente alpha characters will have a slight advantage over the other 3 races when it comes to industrials.

gallente have an industrial for each type.

1. 1x for ore hold
2. 1x for pi hold
3. 2x for cargo hold
4. 1x for ammo hold


the other races do not.

will ccp introduce industrial ships to do this for each of the other 3 races to balance it out?


also will alpha accounts be able to use a noctis?

There are good and bad free to play models out there. From blatand money grab with micro transactions to fair "only pay what you play" games. Most players fear that their game get become pay-to-win when the publisher adds a free-to-play option. I don't think EVE can get much more pay-to-win as it is now. You can buy everything but player skill and freinds and CCP made a clever system to ensure that the pay-to-win money will be payed to them :)

It is after all a business for CCP even if it is recreation for us.

Can I suggest CCP simplifies the list of what skills are available to each race's Alpha Clone to the following catagories:

• Common (which has the majority that are shared between them all)
• Amarr
• Caldari
• Gallente
• Minmatar

That way people can compare the differences between each race easier.

I would love to see Alpha permadeath or limited to 10 reclones before they have to buy an Omega for at least one cycle to reset the counter back to 10. Make them like slaves in lore to our Omega. haha

how i think alpha accounts should be restricted

1. all races can cross train so new players can get a proper taste of eve online but only upto cruiser and medium sized weapons at level 3

2. restrict the max skill level for alphas to 3 for all the primary skills - max level 5 for drone operation skill but max level 4 for all other drone related skills. cannot train heavy drones or fighters (to stop people using geckos)

3. make all t2 modules require level 4 or higher

4. make all bc or larger ships require spaceship command 4

5. make all t2/t3 ships require at least 1 level 5 skill

6. mining barges/exumers/orca/freighters/jf/capitals cannot be used on alpha accounts

7. entosis, cloak, and cyno mods cannot be used on alpha accounts

8. pi is limited to level 2 command centers and level 2 inter planetary and level 2 remote sensing (max 3 pi colonies)

9. only one alpha account per computer can log in at any one time

10. alpha accounts can train mining frig 2

11. alpha accounts cannot create corporations or alliances but can join existing ones however they cannot be ceo of an existing corp or alliance.

12. alpha accounts cannot anchor structures larger than MTU or Mobile Depot

13. alpha accounts cannot assign/drones to other players

14. alpha accounts cannot do t2 invention/copy blueprints etc

15. alpha accounts cannot build t2/t3 or capital ships

16. alpha accounts cannot have more than 5 buy orders or 10 sell orders at any one time.

17. alpha accounts are forced to safety green in high sec

could you make it any more obvious how poorly the csm is treated by ccp

My goodness and I thought only Amarr toons loved slavery.
I think the fear that is making so many cry out for an ever expanding list of restrictions is something CCP would be foolish to accept. Forced green in high sec is contrary to the love of ganking CCP clearly has, you don't have to like reality but you should face it honestly. CCP wants a game of violent exploding spaceships by ever increasing in size fleets, it's what they have made their claim to fame on. Expecting them to lure a new crop of players in and then restrict them from helping realize that is naive at best.

SNIP

I did, which didn't make your statements of supposed encouragement for a doomed idea any less ridiculous. It's still wrong and will remain wrong in regards to Alpha / Trial accounts being used as Candles. Only because they've trained the skill doesn't mean they can use it as Alpha Clone. Because they can't. They never will. And CCP won't allow it. CCP knows well enough how much they would break the game if the'd allow it. Cynosural Field Theory was never trainable on trial accounts to my knowledge, regardless of NPE iteration. For a reason.

Q: Are there restrictions on simultaneous log on for Alpha Clones?

A: We have not decided whether the simultaneous log on restrictions from the current trial system will apply to Alpha Clones. The decision will partly depend on your feedback, as well as our technical investigations over the coming months.

Q: Can other players see my clone state?

A: No, only you will be able to see your clone state. We think that seeing the clone state of other players would provide too much strategic value to make it public.

i think its only fair that if you want to go to route of suicide ganking you should pay for the game. otherwise you drive out all the paying players that like to mine or do indy stuff in high sec . if high sec is full of free playing suicide gankers. that would only make the low sub numbers even worse.

alpha accounts can still get kills in low / null / worm space without the safety restriction

Dear CCP,

I have a question. I just started playing EVE, with a paid subscription. Will I be given all of those skills for free come November? Or, should I just stop my subscription now, and wait to get them in November?

how i think alpha accounts should be restricted

1. all races can cross train so new players can get a proper taste of eve online but only upto cruiser and medium sized weapons at level 3

2. restrict the max skill level for alphas to 3 for all the primary skills - max level 5 for drone operation skill but max level 4 for all other drone related skills. cannot train heavy drones or fighters (to stop people using geckos)

3. make all t2 modules require level 4 or higher

4. make all bc or larger ships require spaceship command 4

5. make all t2/t3 ships require at least 1 level 5 skill

6. mining barges/exumers/orca/freighters/jf/capitals cannot be used on alpha accounts

7. entosis, cloak, and cyno mods cannot be used on alpha accounts

8. pi is limited to level 2 command centers and level 2 inter planetary and level 2 remote sensing (max 3 pi colonies)

9. only one alpha account per computer can log in at any one time

10. alpha accounts can train mining frig 2

11. alpha accounts cannot create corporations or alliances but can join existing ones however they cannot be ceo of an existing corp or alliance.

12. alpha accounts cannot anchor structures larger than MTU or Mobile Depot

13. alpha accounts cannot assign/drones to other players

14. alpha accounts cannot do t2 invention/copy blueprints etc

15. alpha accounts cannot build t2/t3 or capital ships

16. alpha accounts cannot have more than 5 buy orders or 10 sell orders at any one time.

17. alpha accounts are forced to safety green in high sec (however accepting a duel or can baiting is allowed)

if this goes ahead jf/freighter runs will get expensive real fast.

imagine uedema to niarja full of alpha account gankers. no freighter/jf will get through

step 1 bump freighter/jf

step 2 gank webber

step 3 gank freighter jf

lol

how i think alpha accounts should be restricted

1. all races can cross train so new players can get a proper taste of eve online but only upto cruiser and medium sized weapons at level 3

2. restrict the max skill level for alphas to 3 for all the primary skills - max level 5 for drone operation skill but max level 4 for all other drone related skills. cannot train heavy drones or fighters (to stop people using geckos)

3. make all t2 modules require level 4 or higher

4. make all bc or larger ships require spaceship command 4

5. make all t2/t3 ships require at least 1 level 5 skill

6. mining barges/exumers/orca/freighters/jf/capitals cannot be used on alpha accounts

7. entosis, cloak, and cyno mods cannot be used on alpha accounts

8. pi is limited to level 2 command centers and level 2 inter planetary and level 2 remote sensing (max 3 pi colonies)

9. only one alpha account per computer can log in at any one time

10. alpha accounts can train mining frig 2

11. alpha accounts cannot create corporations or alliances but can join existing ones however they cannot be ceo of an existing corp or alliance.

12. alpha accounts cannot anchor structures larger than MTU or Mobile Depot

13. alpha accounts cannot assign/drones to other players

14. alpha accounts cannot do t2 invention/copy blueprints etc

15. alpha accounts cannot build t2/t3 or capital ships

16. alpha accounts cannot have more than 5 buy orders or 10 sell orders at any one time.

17. alpha accounts are forced to safety green in high sec (however accepting a duel or can baiting is allowed)

you still can't remember plex exist, even in a post where you discusses plex

this is really amazing how badly you want to not be wrong

unfortunately for you, today is just like any other day, a day filled with you both metaphorically and literally faceplanting left and right