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Sir Bart Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.04.05 18:01:00 - [331] Originally by: Cruel Fox Originally by: Sir Bart Please check ore content in our systems and compare it to other systems. Unless it was part of the plan for the belts our rocks not to have proper amounts of minerals in them. And if that's the case, let us know, so we can plan accordingly. -Bart Bart - what u r even trying to say that could be CCP point makes no sence; or to put it other way; if CCP decided to make so small asteriods wich results on disabling mining; then we need another space where there is not posible to fire! No mining in Kali space - then let me see no pew pew somewhere! And dont start with Jita crap! Facts still stays - our mining accounts r disabled - we need money for those back! I think what I was trying to say can be figured out by reading my post. However, after trying to read your reply three times, I still don't know what you're saying, please correct your english.... it sounds like you're mad at me but I'm not sure... anyways, I think we're both on the same side and want CCP to fix the belts. -Bart
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God X-PACT	Posted - 2007.04.05 20:01:00 - [332] Agreed with Bart, I only got this part: Quote: Facts still stays - our mining accounts r disabled - we need money for those back! I also read this between the lines: Quote: Rikeka is sexy To which I agree.
Verdone Gallente Cotton Buds FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.05 20:48:00 - [333] Fix the drone complexes, half our corp is slicing their wrists after two bugged complexes
Jas Dor Minmatar	Posted - 2007.04.05 21:06:00 - [334] Can somebody fit a roid scanner and post some screenies showing huge roids, low ore. Maybe once the problem becomes 100% clear CCP will do something about it. Names, Dates, Times, Engagements, Losses, Op-Tempo or STFU!
Cruel Fox Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.05 21:59:00 - [335] Originally by: Sir Bart Originally by: Cruel Fox Originally by: Sir Bart Please check ore content in our systems and compare it to other systems. Unless it was part of the plan for the belts our rocks not to have proper amounts of minerals in them. And if that's the case, let us know, so we can plan accordingly. -Bart Bart - what u r even trying to say that could be CCP point makes no sence; or to put it other way; if CCP decided to make so small asteriods wich results on disabling mining; then we need another space where there is not posible to fire! No mining in Kali space - then let me see no pew pew somewhere! And dont start with Jita crap! Facts still stays - our mining accounts r disabled - we need money for those back! I think what I was trying to say can be figured out by reading my post. However, after trying to read your reply three times, I still don't know what you're saying, please correct your english.... it sounds like you're mad at me but I'm not sure... anyways, I think we're both on the same side and want CCP to fix the belts. -Bart Same page as u r; yes CCP should fix roids; i just said that your idea that CCP would do it intentionally makes no sence since it is DISABLING all mining acounts; and mining is 1 of main ocupation in Eve; u get lasor on nubi ship!
Lookylooklook	Posted - 2007.04.05 22:20:00 - [336] Ultimately I guess it has become clear from CCP that the issue isn't high on their priority list. What would be nice is a simple statement. Either: "The asteriods are intended to be similar in size as other regions and we will fix it eventually for the dedicated few that wish to stick it out." Or: "The asteriods are intended to be much smaller in this area along with the other draw-backs, and we have already fixed things to the extent that we intend. I feel sorry for those that decided to build outposts there. Tough ******* " If statement #1 is the case, this place is going to be invaded something fierce after the Southern war. A bunch of under-funded alliances with a bunch of outposts built up for infrastructure just waiting for displaced entities hardened in war to come pack their fudge. If statement #2 is the case at least people can get on with things and go find one of those 5000 other systems Ovy mentioned.
NeoTech Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.04.05 22:29:00 - [337] bump Originally by: DB Preacher nothing on those forums show that anyone in CCP is in RKK or have done anything to assist us and I am 100% certain that the investigation will show that nothing untoward has
Biosman ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.05 22:50:00 - [338] Has no-one got back to you guys yet? Do you feel ignored,unwanted by CCP? 10000 shuttles + Jita = NOTICED
Devious Syn	Posted - 2007.04.05 23:29:00 - [339] Originally by: Princess Jodi Dearest Bob: Please invade our Drone Regions. We need you to declare that you intend to control all of the New Regions and move there enmasse. That seems to be the only way we can get CCP to fix problems with our areas. -PJ Seriously, this is all that needs to happen.
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.04.06 09:24:00 - [340] Give us some clarity CCP. 1. Are the drone regions supposed to have extremely small roids making mining of any kind a joke? 2. Why aren't the exploration plexes fixed yet? -------------- In completely unrelated news, after careful research, the Guiding Hand Social Club concludes that no member of the Guiding Hand Social Club is guilty of corptheft.

Cruel Fox Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.06 11:31:00 - [341] Originally by: Malachon Draco Give us some clarity CCP. 1. Are the drone regions supposed to have extremely small roids making mining of any kind a joke? 2. Why aren't the exploration plexes fixed yet? Straight questions - we need straight answer!
Raptorius Eye of God X-PACT	Posted - 2007.04.06 16:17:00 - [342] Bump ffs CCP quit ignoring us!!!!!! Some people have mining skills trained and rely on it for a pvp habit. when they can't mine they will simply move on to somewhere they can. We have enough invested here to find out CCP has messd up bad and we lose great members over it to boot. Wake up CCP
NeoTech Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.04.06 16:59:00 - [343] So ehmmmm.... What are you guys doing tonight? Any partys or something going on? Ohh yea, and bump. Originally by: DB Preacher nothing on those forums show that anyone in CCP is in RKK or have done anything to assist us and I am 100% certain that the investigation will show that nothing untoward has
Darkcommander Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.04.06 18:57:00 - [344] I wonder why CCP even introduced these new regions.They might make nice isk but they are really, really boring. Try npc for a week and you will seriously think about quiting Eve.Oh wait!...u can go mine for a change...and that is as much change u can do in these new regions. Well if u are in for a thrill you can travel 35 jumps with full cargo of minerals in a indy through 0.0.Not having fun yet??...well too bad cuz that is as good as it can get...before u get blown up by one of the many camps along the way. You expect your corp / alliance to get bigger in these areas? Well bring your friends here and they might quit Eve 1 by 1...In the end there will only be the drones...and CCP prolly. You still don't believe me? WEll, practice this...buy some paint and a brush...and start paint something...anything...then...look at it till it gets dry...repeat it 3-4 times...when u are done we will welcome you to the new regions!!! YOU ARE READY!!
Gort Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.04.06 19:40:00 - [345] LOL, I think CCP is losing control over its code base. Maybe the new regions aren't fixable. The only guy who could follow the spaghetti was last seen drunk at a convention in South Transylvania about six months ago, and he never came back! An announcement may be made someday if they ever resolve his availability one way or the other. Meanwhile, in other news: Bob is doing fine and the devs are playing the game to make sure it all works correctly.... Low-tech sig: "When in doubt, empty the magazine."
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.04.06 20:50:00 - [346] This thread has now passed 20,000. Aside from some initial interest by Oveur - of which some was incorrect, there has been no other input. Galaxian Recruitment Info
Attak Trioptimum FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.06 20:51:00 - [347] I think the issue stems from one that was discussed back before Kali became a reality. This issue is that the new regions really weren't worked on at all before they were released. The systems were already all there, and so they added a few links to them and said "here, free space!". Of course, the moons hadn't been seeded. The roids were and still are broken. There were no complexes, and no exploration sights worth talking about. The distribution gave some alliances huge advantages over others in exploiting the space. The rats were extremely underdeveloped. Basicly copy-pasted versions of the ones that had been in high sec complexes. But more systems = content, right? Fine, we said. We'll go there anyway. They've got to fix them eventually, right? But there's very fundamental things wrong with these regions, that have been wrong with them since they arrived. Simple things too, like roids being bugged. Mining is one of the main professions that people do in this game, and it is completely unviable. That is absurd, completely and utterly. So what are the alternatives? Well, we can rat. This is fine, ratting is pretty straight forward, and for the most part the rats up here die and yield loot like they should. Only the loot they dropped has saturated the market so much it's made battleship drops worth 1-1.5 in many cases, rather than the 3-4 that they used to be. And unlike other regions, ratters cannot strike it rich by finding a hauler with several thousand zyd, or a faction spawn. So ratting becomes a low-income, logistical pain in the ass. Maybe we can do exploration! It's a new system that was introduced, mini professions ftw! Oh wait no, it's broken. It's like ratting/mining, only you get to wait an hour to find your warp in point. POS mining? Well, at least we got our moons seeded. Mostly. Anyone who says multiple 60+ moon systems without a SINGLE metal in them is a good framework for a POS network obviously has never run one. Ok, thats out. No static complexes, forget that. Production, we can do that! Once we spend 20 bil on an outpost. But that aside, it's possible. Only we have no low end minerals... we can't mine them, we can't rat for them (I got 150k zyd and 900k trit from a refine of rat loot. Tell me those ratios aren't screwed up). So we get to do more logistics to haul up trit/pyerite. So what do we have left? Underdeveloped systems, bugged or unbalanced resources, and little for solo pvpers to use (ie no isk infusions). Tell me please, where is the upside to this? Shouldn't there be a trade-off? Can we at least get some of the bugged stuff fixed? No. The fact of the matter is that the developers are busy fixing the other things they put in the game too early (invention anyone?) and working on letting you walk around in stations doing emotes at people. Yes, the above is all a giant, long, fat whine. And I dare anyone to refute any of it. My mining account is cancelled because it's useless up there, and my main makes isk in a pocket of 0.0 with rats that don't crash their own market value.
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God X-PACT	Posted - 2007.04.06 20:51:00 - [348] BUMP for the just cause!
LocalHost Empirius Enigmus Navy Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.06 22:16:00 - [349] /signed....... Man can we just get a response from CCP here.....
Hexman Cryo Crypt inc. FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.07 00:10:00 - [350] I think thats' the part that's most annoying: adding WORTHLESS UNNEEDED features while an entire region is SO f* UP! /sign and bump! Originally by:** Attak No. The fact of the matter is that the developers are busy fixing the other things they put in the game too early (invention anyone?) and working on letting you walk around in stations doing emotes at people. value. -= Recruitment post =-

NeoTech Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.04.07 11:17:00 - [351] Wow... second page, we cant have that now can we. CCP Just answer the damn question so we can get this out of the world! OKAY ? Originally by: DB Preacher nothing on those forums show that anyone in CCP is in RKK or have done anything to assist us and I am 100% certain that the investigation will show that nothing untoward has
ragewind Caldari VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.07 15:49:00 - [352] we all know the drop rate of the rats is messed up. we all know this is responerbel for the minneral crash. we all know this is purely due to the drone regon, were the drones are. so it brings up on to one major question and that is why has ccp so drematically affected the eve player controled market? even oveur in this very thread has said its not the intent of ccp to ever affect the market. he stated that the base price they set for zid on 1024isk.... well oveur so what, that is the cost you set (1024) the eve comunity of players had set that at 3500 ish befor the drone regons were added, yes that will be the payer bit of your player driven market! was the game unplayerbel due to OUR priceing? no was it uneconomically messed up so you couldent produce for insuance cost at OUR priceing no could you perform insurance fraud with OUR priceing? no so i guess you could say that the PLAYER DRIVEN market BEFORE the drone regones WORKED!!! now the markets are screwed up, mining acount are eather haveing time ran our or like mine are now folowing raters around colecting the items and salvageing as that is now as profiterbel as mining corockite (LOL a zid ore). this has the added advantage of laveing me with a stabel suply of minerals that now match up fairly evenly with the biuld requerbents of ships so all it means is i can biuld on site and sell on site without the effort of transporting to empire. so think all you like CCP has actively devalued a whole side of eve that was working fine.
Pellaeon DuGalle Caldari Deep Black Industries	Posted - 2007.04.07 16:03:00 - [353] Edited by: Pellaeon DuGalle on 07/04/2007 15:59:35 Originally by: ragewind so i guess you could say that the PLAYER DRIVEN market BEFORE the drone regones WORKED!!! (thus implying the market now doesn't work) As far as I can tell, thats pretty much a summery of what you wrote. The counter-argument is simply this: what makes you think the mineral market in its current, new-drone-area form is in any way broken? Sure, zyd along with other minerals (but mostly zyd) has collapsed. But this is simply a reflection of a new economic situation, and the magical hand of demand and supply has moved to a new equilibrium price. We set the prices before at 3500 or so. Now, with new drone region, we set the prices at around 2000isk. At no point was the price ever out of the collective control of the players. For the mineral prices to be "broken", they would have to end up below the minimum set by CCP, thus resulting in limitless profits based on insurance fraud. And given people know this, the minerals will never drop below this price. edit: clarification ------------------- "There is one rule for the industrialist and that is: Make the best quality of goods possible at the lowest cost possible, paying the highest wages possible."
Vactet Immortalis Silens	Posted - 2007.04.07 17:02:00 - [354] Edited by: Vactet on 07/04/2007 16:59:15 Hmm sad to see that CCP has yet to have the intestinal fortitude to say something to its critics. But for some reason I am not surprised in the least. Someone mentioned the 10K of shuttles in Jita thing... That might actually work. If every alliance in the new regions were to drop oh..5000 shuttles infront of 4-4, i bet itd get attention. Then when asked why...heh i dont even think i need to mention the answer. Oye i wonder if CCP realizes yet that p.i.s.s.ing (Sorry but an word that means "To Anger" is not meant to be nailed by the language filter. Just something else that needs a fix) off the customers is a bad business practice yet. And would someone please hit some of the devs over the head with a baseball bat? Their ego's are becoming highly annoying as of late. Sometimes the world needs to be kicked in the face to stop drooling on itself like an ignorant child. ::Im paid to talk, not to be civil. Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed.
Vactet Immortalis Silens	Posted - 2007.04.07 17:02:00 - [355] Edited by: Vactet on 07/04/2007 16:59:15 Hmm sad to see that CCP has yet to have the intestinal fortitude to say something to its critics. But for some reason I am not surprised in the least. Someone mentioned the 10K of shuttles in Jita thing... That might actually work. If every alliance in the new regions were to drop oh..5000 shuttles infront of 4-4, i bet itd get attention. Then when asked why...heh i dont even think i need to mention the answer. Oye i wonder if CCP realizes yet that p.i.s.s.ing (Sorry but an word that means "To Anger" is not meant to be nailed by the language filter. Just something else that needs a fix) off the customers is a bad business practice yet. And would someone please hit some of the devs over the head with a baseball bat? Their ego's are becoming highly annoying as of late. Sometimes the world needs to be kicked in the face to stop drooling on itself like an ignorant child. ::Im paid to talk, not to be civil. Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed.
Hexman Cryo Crypt inc. FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.07 17:25:00 - [356] hourly bump... -= Recruitment post =-
Illyria Ambri Caldari	Posted - 2007.04.07 17:58:00 - [357] Originally by: Vactet Edited by: Vactet on 07/04/2007 16:59:15 Hmm sad to see that CCP has yet to have the testicular fortitude to say something to its critics. But for some reason I am not surprised in the least. fixed ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Happiness is a warm railgun, Love is a stocked missle launcher. Sexual extacy is watching that NME Battleship go boom. "Will i
Daelin Blackleaf No Joy Corp Pride - Honor - Duty	Posted - 2007.04.07 18:45:00 - [358] Down and down the zydrine goes where it stops, nobody knows. Out of interest what currently refines from the drone region equivalent of a 1.25 battleship rat?
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.04.07 19:33:00 - [359] When is this gonna get fixed? Exploration still borked. Asteroids still incredibly small and with terribly slow 'growth'. -------------- In completely unrelated news, after careful research, the Guiding Hand Social Club concludes that no member of the Guiding Hand Social Club is guilty of corptheft.
Hexman Cryo Crypt inc. FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.08 03:56:00 - [360] bump and /sign...again... So why did they make the new regions? To sucker all of us into bringing high ends into empire market and lower prices on all ships, which was the general whining all around. -= Recruitment post =-



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