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Sevarus James
Minmatar Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.17 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: Sevarus James on 17/03/2007 21:38:25 After having lived in Great Wildlands for a period of time, and then moving into the drone regions when we joined our current alliance, I have to agree with a lot of the points Stamm made, as well as agreeing with Oveur on his counterpoints (most). The bugged npc's have been reported, multiple times, and are annoying. The word that the low end roids are getting fixed is long overdue, but at least they are getting fixed. As an 0.0 industrial/combat corp we had to make serious changes to how we operate as a corp, and while they worked for us (good co-ordination and excellent skills by my directors), a lot of corporations just wouldn't be able to make the transition. It is harder out here than in the regular 0.0 zones for a lot of reasons that have already been gone over here.
The discussion about bounty vs. no bounty is one that is somewhat worriesome though. The drones "bounty" is completely tied to the market, while the other regions are not. An angel saint is worth X baseline no matter how much the module drops change. The drone worth fluctuates, and with the mineral market indexes crashing definitely reduces the worth of those rats.
Our corporation lives by the motto "adapt and overcome", but sometimes the last part of that sentence is completely dependent on the developers making sure that its actually possible. I'm glad that Oveur has responded with the things that ARE fubar currently. As long as the roids get fixed, then hardship or not, this region becomes more viable again for corporations that build without the current 'hoops' that we are forced to jump through.
And just a quick edit for the 'shutup and flame' crowd. Live out here for awhile. Stamm wasn't "whining", he was asking valid questions, to which Oveur replied with answers. Answers are ALL we want so that we can plan/plot and live in our home of choice.
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.17 21:53:00 -
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My only real question about the new regions is the ore capacity of the asteroids...is it really intended to be so low that its nearly worthless to mine? And if it was intended, was it also intended that Trit (the most cumbersome mineral in the needed quantities) be so rare? _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Star Commander
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FactorzGT
Vendetta Underground
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Posted - 2007.03.17 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ozzie Asrail
The reward is not quite on par with the difficulty...
agree wholeheartedly
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FactorzGT
Vendetta Underground
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Posted - 2007.03.17 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Oveur
* Broken asteroids Should be fixed now, the reseeding was wrong
* Lack of tritanium/pyerite Intentional
1) Broken Asteroids This is a vague title for an issue ... there are several ways "broken" can be defined.
if i understand the reply that the roids "re-seeding" issue has been fixed, then i think you mean that the ore content per roid is the same. The aspect that was "fixed" is the repsawn rate of these roids ???
2) Lack of tritanium/pyerite These low ends being the backbone of all industry combined with low end asteroids with very small ore content ... this is killing us. I really think that it would not be too much to ask to have Veldspar and Scordite with huge ore content ... it is of no use to the market in empire from out here. But it is of the utmost importance to the backbone we so desperately need.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.03.17 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: Wylker on 17/03/2007 22:30:35 Dear Thoric and Stamm:
I was going to reply to your replies, but then I read the thread and realized that plenty of people (including Oveur) already pwnt your ignorance/general stupidity right in the face. enjoy!
whaaa whaaa whaaa i want everything to come super easy to me because im in the new regions... whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lol@u
Originally by: "CCP Oveur"
* No Hauler Spawns - Intentional * Broken belt rats (flying off at 12KM a second, as if they 'bounced') Bugreport it * Broken exploration sites (more so than other space) Should be fixed in 1.4 * Broken asteroids Should be fixed now, the reseeding was wrong * Broken rewards for belt rats Intentional * No static complexes Intentional * Lack of tritanium/pyerite Intentional * No faction spawns Intentional * No conquerable stations Intentional
If you don't like it there, there are about 5000 other solar systems which you can go for.
If you don't like it there, there are about 5000 other solar systems which you can go for.
If you don't like it there, there are about 5000 other solar systems which you can go for.
more lawlerskates. ok im done :)
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Qolde
Minmatar Rising Knights SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.17 22:44:00 -
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I've seen this thread a lot of times, but this time i didnt read it all. All of the people I know who visit the new regions think it is heaven and have no problem hauling all those mins to empire in a t1 hauler. Also, maybe it isn't meant for you to have everything you need in one region, just like every other region in the game, you will need to go to emprie or trade with your friendly neighbors in regions that have what you want because I'm 100% sure you have some mineral that they can use. In the south they usually need nocx and zyd. In the north they usually need mega and mexallon.
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Jotan Veer
Wings of Turul Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.17 22:58:00 -
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Edited by: Jotan Veer on 17/03/2007 22:55:42 Don't worry guys, once you put down enough outposts and a big faction takes away your space it will get improvements.
Just like there is now gallente ice in Paragon Soul (Amarr ice region by default) and the docking bounce is fixed in GQ2S-8.
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Sir Bart
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.03.18 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Oveur
* Broken asteroids Should be fixed now, the reseeding was wrong
Does now mean now? Like if we check our belts right now, the roids should be seeded properly? People in alliance are hoping for tuesday but it looks to me like you think there is not a problem currently to be fixed? Region in question is H3J8-U.
Originally by: CCP Oveur
If you don't like it there, there are about 5000 other solar systems which you can go for.
What I don't like is your tone. When we report bugs to you in your game, I expect a thank you, not this smart alek remark.
-Bart
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Xelios
Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.18 00:53:00 -
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Well thanks for the replies Oveur, let me give you some calculations since I know you guys love those.
When I first set foot in the new regions I made a spreadsheet to calculate profit from alloys. It takes about 23 drone BS to fill a giant secure can with alloys. 3 giant secure cans amount to:
1361 Glossy 3046 Lustering 3346 Motley 679 Opulent 2072 Plush
That's 138 Drone BS worth of alloys and amounted to about 250 mil profit before the mineral price crash. Which made each Drone BS worth, on average, just under 2 mil isk.
Using current market prices for minerals that same stack of alloys amounts to 144 mil isk. Which makes a Drone BS worth, on average, about 1 mil isk. Is this a reasonable figure considering those alloys need to be refined, transported to empire then sold before you see a single isk of profit?
Keep in mind this requires at least 2 characters, one ratting and one hauling. A single triple BS spawn will fill a Raven's cargohold.
So I'm left with just one honest question regarding the belt rats, is this the ratio of work to reward you intended?
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Chib
Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.18 02:18:00 -
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low end minerals have increased significantly in price and since ships use considerably more trit than nox/zyd and factor in cost of compression and transportation and for most refine tax then it makes production out there completely unfeasable especially cap contruction ---------------------------------------------
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Kaylana Syi
The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.18 02:51:00 -
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Astroids need to be fixed.
Belt rats that go fast is something many 0.0 spawns share. Sansha's traveling away from a belt at 1.2k ms is rare but it happens.
Zydrine used to be 1000 isk per unit in 2003. Doesn't matter if it goes back down some.
Team Minmatar
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Darpz
Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.18 03:19:00 -
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all other regions in eve have ways to be self sufficent we don't. we do still need we need a more balanced mineral availablity, and some more unique flare to the new regions
what I would do if I was ovuer -Change Drone Alloy Composition form drops to be aproximately more inline with ship production. if unwilling to do this maybe RP it that the Drones harvest all the lowends for production of more drones, and allow us to find Drone exploration sites that have a Large amount of the lowends that the drones are harvesting. -Give us some unique rewards. from exploration (faction Drones, Faction Drone ships (wtb Infested Domi/Vexor) -Release the Capital Miner that the carebears have all been asking for as a giant Veldspar/Scordite devour
yes Killing drones is aproxamately inline with rating. but there are alot more logistics involved in relising that profit. all other regions have multiple ways to profit from the space we don't we have rating thats it, and maybe mining if that is truley fixed to be equal to other regions. Other regions have Complexes that give unique racial rewards, we do not. other regions have officer spawns that give unquie ratial rewards we do not. I think its time for the devs to join an allinace in the new regions and truely live out there and compare it to regions like Delve and Fountain (they should be familiar with those) and deicide for themselfs if they truley are balanced or even competitve with the rest of 0.0
you say you don't mind zyd plumiting in price since your npc index puts it at 1024 and it was to high before, and yet due to this surplus of highends in the new regions we export most of our highends since logistically it takes ALOT of teamwork to produce out here using alot of mechanics in the game that aren't at all indended (mineral compresion) if it wasn't for mineral compresion production in the new regions in its current form would be impossible, and even with it its alot more dificult than it should be.
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Vactet
Immortalis Silens Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.18 05:28:00 -
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Good points all around...my turn. "PROFIT" is the end line. Great, we can all agree. This game is all about making isk and using said isk to have fun (Building a cap ship, buying a hulk, etc). There..are...many paths to profit. 1)The low sec pirate. His path to profit is ganking folks and selling their modules. Its fun for them so they do it. 2)The high sec miner. They sit in a belt and..mine. Fun for them, not for others, but its their calling it seems. 3)0.0 ratter. They love to rat and dont mind the grind to get rich ratting. 4)0.0 Production. HARDEST OF ALL AND YOU JUST FRACKING GIMPED IT IN THE NEW REGIONS! Want to understand why? To rat..you need a ship capable and modules and skills. To..produce. You need the arrays or a station. You need the bpo's and/or bpc's. You need minerals. You need someone with the skills to do it efficently (PE LVL5). You need a hauler to move minerals from spot X to the array. You then need a way to deliver the built item (Ammo/Modules arent a big issue, but ships can be) (So for battleships, you need someone who can fly them to the station if thats your market hub). Theres ALOT of things in the production chain. And by totally killing our ability to get low ends..you break the chain. Here..ill give you another concept. Lets say...you want to build ship XYZ. It requires...4,000,000M of Trit, 2,000,000M of Pye, 4000zyd, 2000mega. Ok...mega zyd..no problem. Go rat (or in our case. the ratters pay their fee's with mega/zyd.). Now..for trit. Mining is bunked. Figure you get...7mill trit/2mill pye per belt. Sure...this solves that. Thats nice right? What happens when you get heavy production...say...5 BS orders in a day? You cant mine all that easily with the way the roids are right now. So..mineral compression. You LOOSE some minerals, incuring a small dent to your profit. So..you increase your price to compensate. Prices go up. Economics over.
Fix it all, reconsider the "Intentional (Screwups)". Cause breaking one part is gonna break it all.
And in a response to...Darpz...i see you werent the only one thinking that if some devs were living in the new regions...for a month or more...that then they would see. But no, they are comfortable in..(Oh..cant say that anymore..hmm).
I still personally think that the devs should have a meeting with the ALLIANCE leaders from the new regions, a round table so to speak. Listen to them, they generally know what they are talking about (They usually dont get to that position otherwise).
Sometimes the world needs to be kicked in the face to stop drooling on itself like an ignorant child. ::Public Relations Director for Immortalis Silens. ::Im paid to talk, not to be civil. |

Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.18 07:23:00 -
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Finally some more talk about this;
No matter what arguments there r on the table there is a few fact:
mining should be given everywhere - in kali space it is not - u cant mine since every roid pops in 1 hulk cycle
exploration is buged
price of minerlas directlly effect awards on our ratz - wich is not like this for any other space - i am wondering will devs adjust our drops to make them valuable enought or will they lower drop when mins will go back up (i already noticed diference in alloys drop) __________________
Lack of tritanium - erm that is consequence of broken roids - so how can that be intentunally?
Finally after 4 month of bug reporting and petitoning; few times being threthend by being baned - becouse i am reporting a bug devs anounced that main things will be fixed
Asteroid belits and exploration; i loged into singulerity where 1.4 should have been active and i noticed no changes; 100K of veldspar in rock and 300-500 crokite in roid. So i dont c this being fixed as it is like it was!!!! Secondlly why adresing onlly G5KW - it might be true that DMC was really active on this bug reporting thingys; but all space released with Kali is like that!!
About hawlers and factions spawns w cant argue with CCP - if they decided to do it without it and without complexes i guess we cant do nothing; they could decide other way thow; but roids and explorations there is no decisin it is broken from first time of space being open and acording to singulerity it will stay broken! (might be that they will grow after we pop roids and that they will actually grow)
Anyhow it is unresponcible to leave all this ppl in broken space for 4 month; taking care of cosmetic stuff insted of important bugs is not sutable in mine opinion.
What bothers me even more is that there is nothing said about most anying bug i ever say and experianced; i have specific setup on mine abadon and i am used to it so i exectlly know how it performs; one day i go to belt and ship just didnt work; i petition it and GM tould me to go and repack all mine mods. After i did that ship was as it should be. So whenever i go in space for pvp or rating i should go and repack mine mods to be 100% certain it will work?
After 4 month in new region i have to admit i am a bit tired! All this bugs around me made my game redicilus insted of having fun. And as i said b4; if this bugs wont be repaired then unancor all my stuf, and teleprt DMC from where we cam from; Giving all LOVE to certian ppl in game with all BPOs and all god stuff in region and to some nothing is just unacceptable anymore.
Mining and exploratin with actuall rewards should be given no mater your intentions!!!
Looking forward on 1.4 - hopefully i wont need to feel another bug report and petiton!
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Clorthos
Gallente Tau Ceti Global Production Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.03.18 07:38:00 -
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5 min to mine out a 30km big veld roid in a covetor ( one covetor ) the values int he roids are broken in the drone spaces.
As for the npc trailer spawns not being there as intended, they are in the database and not spawning so there seems to be a conflict of stories here.
5000 other systems to go live in? I can garantee that if "your" favorite alliance lived in the new regions there would be npc trailer spawns, sttatic plexes, faction drones, and rewards not linked to the market price on zyd, and working roid spawns.
I have 4 accounts and 2 of them are useless in the new regions with roids being broken making industry out there broken.
that is 30 dollars usd per month being wasted by me for toons i cannot use there, each patch to fix things is getting farther and farther apart, giving less and less hope for a workable situation.
Current market prices making the bs spawns worth about 1 mil makes it 3 times harder than chaining a 3 mil bs spawn in old 0.0. drones spawning inside roids and flying off at 12kms in and out for hours on end keeps that belt free from any other spawn or until downtime making that belt useless to try to rat in. no low ends from trailer spawns or low end roids with the correct number of units in each one is the biggest handicap in the area.
wtf move out here?
seriously get this sorted !!
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Verite Rendition
Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.
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Posted - 2007.03.18 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Oveur
Originally by: Stamm
Originally by: CCP Oveur
Oh, now I understand better the loot, you mean the composition is to zyd/nocx heavy? I hadn't thought about it like that, I was referring to rogue drones not having loot, which is one of their main traits (CONCORD doesn't give a flying intercourse about rogue drones).
The composition is however intentional, you don't have all but we can datamine this specifically. There are other sources than the new regions for the compounds so I wouldn't single that out as the only reason for price fluctuations.
Again, thanks for replying Oveur, you may not realise it, but by simply replying to me you've probably shown a bit of a light at the end of the tunnel for all the frustrated new regions alliances.
Yeah, it's what I meant. I see what you mean about the zyd/nocx. Of course we shouldn't have perfect building requirements in minerals dropping. However, are you intending doing anything about zyd/nocx prices if they continue to drop?
Zyd has gone to about 50% of what it was when the new regions come out. Nocx stood a little better, but the price has been crashing.
Zydrine 180 day average
Nocxium 180 day average
Those are the two minerals that rogue drones are "heavy" on, and it's pretty clear the price is plumetting.
Would we do anything about the market price if it drops? The short answer is no, we don't want to mess with the economy in a direct manner. However, we have through time changed composition and distribution of minerals to addres certain long-term situations.
However, as long as for example Zyd stays around 1024, it's base price, we have no worries.
With all due respect Oveur, you mess with the economy every time you patch something in the game. When you make large changes like tweaking asteroid spawns, opening new regions, tweak invention, or changing how rats pay their poachers, you're directly influencing the economy. Since the release of Kali the Zydrine:Pyerite price ratio has dropped over 75%(that is, 1 unit of Zyd buys only 1/4 the number of units of Pyerite it previously bought), and all of this directly relates to changes you made in that patch. Please quit saying you don't want to mess with the economy, you do it every day. It has turned in to a thin excuse. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic |

Vactet
Immortalis Silens Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.18 08:52:00 -
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Glad to see you on this thread now Cruel Fox and the rest of yall too. I am glad at what I am seeing... What am I seeing you ask? People, players, standing up and telling the dev's NO. Dev's like to get this idea that they are all powerful and they often get reputations as demi-god type figures in games. Hey..guess what...you arent. You are a person, plain and simple so shrink the ego a bit.
We..are not stupid.. We..are not blind.. We..are not going to accept lack of support.. We..PAY YOUR SALARIES..
Oh god, you ban one or two, ok little loss. Keep doing it and suddenly you are just going to have you and your friends playing. What will it be called then? (I dont think I even have to say it, everyone is thinking it) Cause it wont be EVE anymore.
Its time for the community to take back their rights. What rights? The rights our subscriptions entitle us to.
Heres something i found entertaining.. "As for the npc trailer spawns not being there as intended, they are in the database and not spawning so there seems to be a conflict of stories here." Know what that makes me think? "Uh oh we forgot and are trying to cover it up so it seems that we havent been putting fluff into the game instead of actual stuff"
How..about this...a drastic idea.. FULL STOP OF CURRENT DEVELOPMENT OF ANY FURTHER EXPANSIONS/ADDONS/NEW FEATURES! Fix the current problems..first. You...sorta fixed the lag, i will give credit there. (I dont think jita lag will ever be solved, but oh well) All devs, gm's, etc should be brought into working on the current bug reports. Got so many? Well cause there are alot of bugs! Get them fixed. I dont know about anyone else but as MUCH as I am looking forward to seeing what is to come from Sovereignty 2.0, i care more about getting the current problems fixed.
Also another thing of note...Ov was posting alot until suddenly the sights of the unhappy customers were brought onto him. Not like conflict or something? Wouldnt be any if you were fixing problems not trying to convince us that there arent any.
Sometimes the world needs to be kicked in the face to stop drooling on itself like an ignorant child. ::Public Relations Director for Immortalis Silens. ::Im paid to talk, not to be civil. |

Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.18 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Oveur
* Broken asteroids Should be fixed now, the reseeding was wrong
Oveur, please a slight explanation of this one.
1. What is reseeding exactly? Does that mean that if we mine a roid and it pops, it will be back a few days later with a normal starting size, and it will in fact 'grow' just as fast as in other regions?
2. Will you fix all drone regions and not just the one mentioned? -------------- In completely unrelated news, after careful research, the Guiding Hand Social Club concludes that no member of the Guiding Hand Social Club is guilty of corptheft. |

Death Merchant
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.18 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Vactet Glad to see you on this thread now Cruel Fox and the rest of yall too. I am glad at what I am seeing... What am I seeing you ask? People, players, standing up and telling the dev's NO. Dev's like to get this idea that they are all powerful and they often get reputations as demi-god type figures in games. Hey..guess what...you arent. You are a person, plain and simple so shrink the ego a bit.
We..are not stupid.. We..are not blind.. We..are not going to accept lack of support.. We..PAY YOUR SALARIES..
Oh god, you ban one or two, ok little loss. Keep doing it and suddenly you are just going to have you and your friends playing. What will it be called then? (I dont think I even have to say it, everyone is thinking it) Cause it wont be EVE anymore.
Its time for the community to take back their rights. What rights? The rights our subscriptions entitle us to.
Heres something i found entertaining.. "As for the npc trailer spawns not being there as intended, they are in the database and not spawning so there seems to be a conflict of stories here." Know what that makes me think? "Uh oh we forgot and are trying to cover it up so it seems that we havent been putting fluff into the game instead of actual stuff"
How..about this...a drastic idea.. FULL STOP OF CURRENT DEVELOPMENT OF ANY FURTHER EXPANSIONS/ADDONS/NEW FEATURES! Fix the current problems..first. You...sorta fixed the lag, i will give credit there. (I dont think jita lag will ever be solved, but oh well) All devs, gm's, etc should be brought into working on the current bug reports. Got so many? Well cause there are alot of bugs! Get them fixed. I dont know about anyone else but as MUCH as I am looking forward to seeing what is to come from Sovereignty 2.0, i care more about getting the current problems fixed.
Also another thing of note...Ov was posting alot until suddenly the sights of the unhappy customers were brought onto him. Not like conflict or something? Wouldnt be any if you were fixing problems not trying to convince us that there arent any.
Um... 1)What game have you been playing? 2)Threats like this don't work or help. 3)Decaffeinated.
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Okkie2
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Posted - 2007.03.18 09:41:00 -
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Edited by: Okkie2 on 18/03/2007 09:40:24
Originally by: Vactet
Also another thing of note...Ov was posting alot until suddenly the sights of the unhappy customers were brought onto him. Not like conflict or something? Wouldnt be any if you were fixing problems not trying to convince us that there arent any.
The DEVs tend to stop posting once people start flaming and the posts start getting less and less constructive (e.g. your own post) ......
btw this happens especially when people start whining about the issue with certain alliances getting more attention as others 
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MailFan
Horizon.Inc Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.18 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Xelios Well thanks for the replies Oveur, let me give you some calculations since I know you guys love those.
When I first set foot in the new regions I made a spreadsheet to calculate profit from alloys. It takes about 23 drone BS to fill a giant secure can with alloys. 3 giant secure cans amount to:
1361 Glossy 3046 Lustering 3346 Motley 679 Opulent 2072 Plush
That's 138 Drone BS worth of alloys and amounted to about 250 mil profit before the mineral price crash. Which made each Drone BS worth, on average, just under 2 mil isk.
Using current market prices for minerals that same stack of alloys amounts to 144 mil isk. Which makes a Drone BS worth, on average, about 1 mil isk. Is this a reasonable figure considering those alloys need to be refined, transported to empire then sold before you see a single isk of profit?
Keep in mind this requires at least 2 characters, one ratting and one hauling. A single triple BS spawn will fill a Raven's cargohold.
So I'm left with just one honest question regarding the belt rats, is this the ratio of work to reward you intended?
QFT
We have to work harder for less profit than any other 0.0 region. That may have been intentional, but maybe you could have made that clear before we spent all those hours on setting up our new home.
Less profit = less ships = less defense = lesser time for the other alliances to come and take over our space. If they actually want our space, which if they don't should say enough  --
I'm in this mood because of scorn. I'm in a mood for total war
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Fletcher Vardy
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Posted - 2007.03.18 10:25:00 -
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OK i have been in the new regieon since the patch and live in the so called G5 regieon .Roids here are small !!!!they respawn fine -twice a week (compared to Deklien) and have a size in porportion with other regieon in 0.0`s .BUT the roid size is 1/10 that of other areas (fade dek branch)so a normal crokite roid mite be between 3000-8000 units everywhere else ,but in the newly opened space from revalations all roids (full grown)are 1/10 that ,from 300-800 .Its like ccp forgot a 0 .So on respawn day they pop out at like 100-120 (iam talking about Crokite ,bistot high end ore).I have played eve for 3 yrs almost and skilled to one of the main professions in game .To be a miner -how can i mine when i cant even activate my lasers for ONE CYCLE!!!!!!!!!!!!WTF.This has got to be a mistake RIGHT? u make skills and implants to advance ppls ore consumption ,give them hulks with all these nice crystals ,and so on .But HELLO ! i suck a hole roid in one cycle of my lasers.I would like to think that ratting wasnt the only way ccp expected the new regieon pilgrams to make it out here ,I mean damm the hole economic value of game was that all ore (thusly making mods ships and ammo)was labored by capsuleers.come on ccp take a hulk and try to mine in new regieon u will see what i mean . |

Stamm
Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.03.18 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Fletcher Vardy OK i have been in the new regieon since the patch and live in the so called G5 regieon .Roids here are small !!!!they respawn fine -twice a week (compared to Deklien) and have a size in porportion with other regieon in 0.0`s .BUT the roid size is 1/10 that of other areas (fade dek branch)so a normal crokite roid mite be between 3000-8000 units everywhere else ,but in the newly opened space from revalations all roids (full grown)are 1/10 that ,from 300-800 .Its like ccp forgot a 0 .So on respawn day they pop out at like 100-120 (iam talking about Crokite ,bistot high end ore).I have played eve for 3 yrs almost and skilled to one of the main professions in game .To be a miner -how can i mine when i cant even activate my lasers for ONE CYCLE!!!!!!!!!!!!WTF.This has got to be a mistake RIGHT? u make skills and implants to advance ppls ore consumption ,give them hulks with all these nice crystals ,and so on .But HELLO ! i suck a hole roid in one cycle of my lasers.I would like to think that ratting wasnt the only way ccp expected the new regieon pilgrams to make it out here ,I mean damm the hole economic value of game was that all ore (thusly making mods ships and ammo)was labored by capsuleers.come on ccp take a hulk and try to mine in new regieon u will see what i mean .
It's unclear what Oveur is meaning about the asteroids, but realistically he can only mean that they are being "fixed" as in once the patch goes in on Tuesday, when a rock is popped it'll respawn with a decent amount, and the existing roids will grow over time.
Hopefully that is what he means, and I can get in my Tormentor, and get rich mining Veld.
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Armois Delgato
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.18 10:36:00 -
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I must say, in hindsite, INVICTUS- thank you for leveraging our station. Fountain has been infinitely more profitable for me than LQ ever could have been.
In real points: Yeah... they really should fix the NPCs and the roids out in new regions land. Though, to be honest, static plexes shouldn't exist anywhere, it should all be exploration plexes from here on out.
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Hardac
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Posted - 2007.03.18 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Cloora ...and the cute cat pics like the one licking himself and saying "I has a FLAVOR!" LOL!
it's off topic but I'd just like to add that that nearly had me taking a trip to the hospital after I just about choked to death on some raisin bran  
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.03.18 11:18:00 -
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so... what about a drone "faction" and what faction items should they drop? ^^ (oooh i wanna fly a drone ship - requires hacking V and spaceship command V )
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Eliax
Gallente Horizon.Inc Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.18 12:22:00 -
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Hi Oveur.
Source: Patch notes (misc): An asteroid seeding issue in the G5KW region has been addressed.
- Important, its about the Kali regions, G5KW is only one region.
What does seeding actually mean? 1)You mean they grow to a bigger size after respawn? 2)Or do you mean you increased the rate of growing speed after respawns.
Im hoping its number 1) cuz with 2) we will still have a problem. Doesn't matter how fast the growing speed rate is if the mass doesn't get larger then 1/10 th of what they actually should be.
If its number 1) i hope its finnally fixed, if its number 2) we will see the roids a little bigger after respawn but still not the size they should be.
Think im talking crap? Watch my words, i might actually be right, and i so hope im NOT.
We, and also you cannot see on the testserver if its fixed, i mean, how do you guys know if it will be fixed when they can't test it?
- Ok, lets just cross fingers and hope for the best.
CCP, listen to these people, fix the bugs first. Invest more in bugfixing, it will make customers happy, and in the end programmers will be having less issues making expansions. Progamming on a buggy platform is just a disaster waiting to happen...
Next, i would like to support Fletcher and Cruel Fox replies, the guys do have a lot to say in DMC alliance who currently own G5KW region. There not talking crap, they live there since kali opened and know a lot of facts better then any programmer, dev can.
Yes, they are bug reporting too.
Wich brings me to this final thingy:
Originally by: "Oveur"
-If you don't like it there, there are about 5000 other solar systems which you can go for.
Sorry, but i don't like the tone of that. You should know, its not that simple to just "go for" other low sec regions. Its CCP job to make sure everything is as fair for anyone as possible. Everyone should have the same chances...
And we are currently living in the most crappy solar systems of eve. Again, crossing my fingers for the fix.
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Vladimir Ramanov
Amarr Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2007.03.18 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Oveur
Originally by: Stamm The new regions are BROKEN.
If you don't like it there, there are about 5000 other solar systems which you can go for.
If we don't like it there are also dozens of other MMO's on the market, please bear that in mind before posting such childish remarks.
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Xaroth Brook
Minmatar Doomcraft
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Posted - 2007.03.18 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Vladimir Ramanov
Originally by: CCP Oveur
Originally by: Stamm The new regions are BROKEN.
If you don't like it there, there are about 5000 other solar systems which you can go for.
If we don't like it there are also dozens of other MMO's on the market, please bear that in mind before posting such childish remarks.
tbfh I find the constant *****ing from the players who claim to be the majority of EVE, far more childish.
so there are a few bugs, they are fixing it.. and the drones aren't a faction, so there's no faction spawns... nor hauler spawns.. live with it? it's not like they start handing out jammers to every drone and having them shoot on pods.. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Xaroth Brook Brainiac of Doomcraft
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Daelin Blackleaf
No Joy Corp Pride - Honor - Duty
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Posted - 2007.03.18 14:15:00 -
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Am I to take it from this that the new regions are working as intended.
That intention being to drive miners all over the cluster to ratting for bounties as mining has become utterly pointless by comparison unless you can mine 23/7.
The zydrine base price may be 1024 but having it there creates a huge difference between isk/hour from a Drake and isk/hour in a Hulk... unless of course your in an alliance with so many high quality systems you can mine Arkonor all day.
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