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MailFan Horizon.Inc Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.21 09:45:00 - [181] Edited by: MailFan on 21/03/2007 09:41:54 And why the f*ck do I get 2/3rd of alloys out of a BS wreck compared to before the patch? Instead of improvements we got nerfed? -- I'm in this mood because of scorn. I'm in a mood for total war
Karanth Gallente Crazy 88's O X I D E	Posted - 2007.03.21 09:57:00 - [182] I travelled hundreds of light-years, and all I got was this lousy region This is a fighter for the Crazy 88's. It is protecting the assets of the OXIDE Alliance and may attack anyone it perceives as a threat. Threat level: About 60 words per minute I'll see your beer, and raise you a goat kebob- Tirg
Vort X EON Order Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.03.21 10:45:00 - [183] Since im in the new area, there are nothing else to do but to kill rats in the belts. I was sure that the exploration sites will be added, but ain't happened. I've got few systems with unknown signals, but they are just inpossible to locate. YQM for example, the signal is there, you can cover everything with 4 quest probe, but it just wont find anything while the multispectral probe says hey, here is an unknown sign, probably plex. The same issue as before. It wasn't fixed, so there is nothing else to do in EVE for the residents of the new region but kill roids. Yeah, I could go for pvp one could say, which I'd love to, but until we've got standing with RED it would be suicide. All I can say I'm bored here, but still have hope.
Vactet Immortalis Silens	Posted - 2007.03.22 12:29:00 - [184] Edited by: Vactet on 22/03/2007 12:32:34 Dun Dun Dun im back. Had some..ahh..issues with the alliance the corp i am in was in. Long story, dont worry. Anyways. Sad to hear that they didnt fix the regions..figured as much. The corp I am in, IMSIL, moved back to Molden Heath for the moment before we redeploy to a different 0.0, once we find out where to go exactly... It came down to this: Current state of 7-k Region (Pre Patch)=Unplayable by an industrial corporation that is self sufficent, or should be for the most part. Then the whole thing with the alliance went down (Why is it that some people dont like being told they are wrong? Oh well, moving on) so that made it easy. But yeh, real sorry to hear the regions are still screwed up, feared it would be so. Now then...replies and thoughts on things people said... Originally by: Cruel Fox And as i expected they didnt fix the roids! all ore amounts as they were nearlly at 0! But they did fix DRONES; they hit harder and drop less! Hmm i dont remember reporting bug saying drones droping to much and dont hit hard enought! Oye. Nerf for the loose. Good job devs. You made the problem worse. I swear, sometimes i think its you [devs] that needs to be hit with the nerf bat, yeesh. Now...to a few critics...batter up. Originally by: Xelios Vactet, you're not doing anyone any favours by flaming devs and demanding things be changed. The new regions have a concept that's never been tried before in EVE, and like any new concept it needs to be balanced. Most of us are just providing feedback to CCP in the hopes that the problems will be recognized and fixed, not whining on about how we're entitled to have things handed to us on a silver platter. Not flaming devs thank you. Flaming would include alot more cursing coming out of me and mentioning something to do with gerbils. Call it being abrassive, rash, and angry....but trust me...that was not me flaming. As for demanding? Dang right I am demanding, my 45 bucks a month gives me this right as does every other person's monthly bill to CCP give them the same right. And just what am i Demanding? (Incase you werent paying attention and all). First off? That CCP Listen and respond to the players. Christ, if they get yelled at and go cower until its over then im seriously surprised. Second off, that they fix, or atleast release a plan to fix the problems. Sitting stagnate is not acceptable. You mention providing feedback. Have you...read any of my posts? Its all feedback, both on the new regions and on Oveur's rather annoying attitude about the entire thing. (Yeh yeh, i know i got an attitude too). Whining. Ok enough. Stop assuming you know my intentions, its becoming annoying, that and the whole putting words in my mouth thing. I am demanding that the new regions get an equal shake, just like the rest of the 0.0 regions. NO better, NO worse (And its worse right now). Next... Originally by: Snake Doctor Listen man-- You're getting this worked up over a game? There are like 30 more regions. Why don't you move to one of them and stop complaining about it? How about taking a break from Eve... It's all me me me with some players--- while that's all fine and good for you, this is mmo. If they go ahead and make every change suggested because some player throws a fit, the game will suck for the rest of us. Some of us like that the devs did it intentionally. I've been saying it all along. As a group, the new regions are fun, but if you're playing to win eve, maybe it's time for a break? So..now its your turn. Yes, i get worked up over problems that occur in anything that i invest my time into. Wether this is school, work, or in this case EVE. Its called caring about something, look into it. 30 More regions, uh...no. All regions should be equal..in the end (Note: Yes..I do mean 0.0. And notice i said...IN the end.) Actually, i was proclaiming rather loudly for all of those living in the new regions, not just myself, not just my corp, and not just my alliance (at the time). CONT Sometimes the world needs to be kicked in the face to stop drooling on itself like an ignorant child. ::Im paid to talk, not to be civil. ::I will respond to any critic, be warned though, I have a
Vactet Immortalis Silens	Posted - 2007.03.22 12:31:00 - [185] Edited by: Vactet on 22/03/2007 12:31:05 Jesus. Did i ever say "FIX 7-K first". No, i said "Hey G5 aint the only one, what about the other regions?". And this is NOT a case of making a change for one player. Read the forum, look how many people from many different alliances, with many different beliefs, are screaming for THE SAME THING. Im playing to have fun with my friends. And maybe you should be the one taking the break, you seem way to used to the dev's sticking long cylindrical objects close to your backside, might want to look into that. Next... Originally by: Death Merchant Um... 1)What game have you been playing? 2)Threats like this don't work or help. 3)Decaffeinated. 1)EVE, or why would i be posting on the eve forums. Really, time the witty questions better. 2)Threats...people misconstrue things way to easily in the current politically correct society of the world. No threats, just demands that the devs listen and respond to the players that pay their saleries. How bout this mmk...you do what you think/feel will help and I will do what I feel will help? Ok that sounds greeeaat. 3)-.- that...was before any caffiene had touched my stomach, heh. In Closing. The chance of myself posting in/on this thread again is slim as my corp has moved out of the new drone regions because the developers have made any sort of manufacturing or industry not viable there any longer, and as a production corp, the issue should be obvious. However, I wish good luck to Cruel Fox and the others in getting the bugs in the new regions resolved in a fast manner. Sometimes the world needs to be kicked in the face to stop drooling on itself like an ignorant child. ::Im paid to talk, not to be civil. ::I will respond to any critic, be warned though, I have a
Breyghun Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2007.03.23 11:13:00 - [186] Hmmmmzz .. not sure if this will get looked at cos it's turned into a monster thread and it's probably hard now for the Dev's to pick through it. So, keeping it simple; 1. The new Regions exist. There has been an impact on mineral prices. Adapt to prosper. Remember to factor in the whole value of a drone (including Salvage). 2. Gaming excitement and challenge. Yup the drones are a little tougher and it's harder to make a living out there but that's fun! 3. Faction stuff. Yeah this is needed. Storyline stuff about Drone Commanders showing up makes good sense. Perhaps the discovery of a Cyborg race may provide a future expansion opportunity? 4. Exploration. Well these are new regions so it figures that there should be interesting stuff to discover. Say arc sites with mysterious drone buildings. 5. Mining. I don't see why the roids shouldn't behave the same as everywhere else in the game. So there it is, my two penneth of what I reckon needs to be in but get over "fixing the new regions". Zyd prices will soon recover if enough people "move along". schlepp, schlock, schmaltz, scmooze, ****** are all the words you need in life.*
Eliax Gallente Horizon.Inc Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.23 13:22:00 - [187] Originally by: "CCP Oveur" Broken asteroids Should be fixed now, the reseeding was wrong Nothing has been fixed, as i said before, wtf is reseeding anyway? Its the values the ore contains thats wrong. I waited till after patch, after roid respawn and... I couldn't even complete 1 cycle with 1 strip miner I on 1 crokite roid.
Teldar Novastorm Eastern Heritage O X I D E	Posted - 2007.03.23 13:36:00 - [188] Originally by: Breyghun Hmmmmzz .. not sure if this will get looked at cos it's turned into a monster thread and it's probably hard now for the Dev's to pick through it. Its not hard to "pick through" Everyone here in the new regions is saying the same things. Originally by: Breyghun 2. Gaming excitement and challenge. Yup the drones are a little tougher and it's harder to make a living out there but that's fun! No, its not fun, suddenly Im doing more for less with the drone alloy nerf, with no explanation as to why? I cant even mine because the asteroids are broken and have 1/10th the ore in them that they should, so killing drones and recycling their alloys is still a better way to go. There might as well be NO belts in the systems in the new regions. If the roids at least had decent amounts in them, it would give a nice break from ratting (droning?)the drones only drop alloys (which are depreciating in price because ccp couldnt forsee the effect all this Zyd with no Trit in the new regions would have on empire), no modules, and give no bounties. There are no plexes, not even hidden ones out here. Why should the new regions be this much WORSE than everywhere else in the game? Id like someone from ccp step up and explain this mess please. Even if changes arent coming for a month or 2 just having someone answer our questions properly without the "if you dont like it, leave" attitude would go a long way to helping us understand if you intentionally screwed up the new regions to bone anyone moving in there, or if there are fixes coming to bring them more on par with the older regions in game.
Breyghun Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2007.03.23 13:56:00 - [189] Originally by: CCP Oveur Originally by: Stamm The new regions are BROKEN. The new regions are as they are supposed to be. They were never supposed to be "tougher" themselves, they were supposed to be built up by players, which requires logistics which is tougher. If we go through it item for item: * No Hauler Spawns - Intentional * Broken belt rats (flying off at 12KM a second, as if they 'bounced') Bugreport it * Broken exploration sites (more so than other space) Should be fixed in 1.4 * Broken asteroids Should be fixed now, the reseeding was wrong * Broken rewards for belt rats Intentional * No static complexes Intentional * Lack of tritanium/pyerite Intentional * No faction spawns Intentional * No conquerable stations Intentional If you don't like it there, there are about 5000 other solar systems which you can go for. This was the CCP response The only thing still in play is therefore fixing the roids issue and contributing ideas for spicing up the new Regions but leaving them as something different. If you are still getting roid problems then report them with details. schlepp, schlock, schmaltz, scmooze, ****** are all the words you need in life.*
Teldar Novastorm Eastern Heritage O X I D E	Posted - 2007.03.23 14:35:00 - [190] Originally by: Breyghun This was the CCP response The only thing still in play is therefore fixing the roids issue and contributing ideas for spicing up the new Regions but leaving them as something different. If you are still getting roid problems then report them with details. It has been bugreported, with ZERO feedback. They gave a vague "reseeding" problem fix, but didnt explain what was actually fixed and as far as we can see, nothing was. Also while static plexes are intentionally left out of the new regions (wtf, even empire gets static plexes?) there arent even HIDDEN plexes that they claim were going to be fixed.
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.03.23 15:09:00 - [191] Originally by: CCP Oveur * Broken asteroids Should be fixed now, the reseeding was wrong They have NOT been fixed! Galaxian Recruitment Info
3rdD Dave Gallente Dark Entropy Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.03.23 15:34:00 - [192] CCp said " Quote: The only thing still in play is therefore fixing the roids issue and contributing ideas for spicing up the new Regions but leaving them as something different. WTF is the point of living here if you cant make ISK?
Drater	Posted - 2007.03.23 15:53:00 - [193] The problem with Oveur Stating "If you don't like the new regions there are 5000 other ones" Is that... Moving takes effort. Given that the new residents complain SO MUCH about a LITTLE MORE effort. You see where I'm going.
Illyria Ambri Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.23 16:53:00 - [194] Originally by: Drater The problem with Oveur Stating "If you don't like the new regions there are 5000 other ones" Is that... Moving takes effort. Given that the new residents complain SO MUCH about a LITTLE MORE effort. You see where I'm going. Yes it means all the many corps and alliances that moved to the new regions based on false promises and overinflated expecations due to CCP would be forced to move into the already occupied good regions resulting in conflict and logistical nightmares for trying to move an allinace. The place you are going is to a choice... CCP can either fix their broken roids and new regions to bring them on par with their promises and make them decently useful.. Or entire alliances can quit cause CCP is incompetant Forcing entire alliances to pack up and move cause CCP is stupid isn't a valid option. ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Happiness is a warm railgun, Love is a stocked missle launcher. Sexual extacy is watching that NME Battleship go boom. "Will i
Snake Doctor Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.23 18:31:00 - [195] Man. This topic will never die. The devs spoke on this issue. What do you want? A personal letter for every concern? Oveur answered your question. This thread has totally run its course. Every time you post to this one, a cute kitten dies. Did you know that? Not just the cute ones, but those ultra-cute soft and cuddly ones with the big orange fur. Yeah. You know what ones I'm talking about. ~160 cute and cuddly kittens have died as a result of rehashing things over and over. Are you guys happy now? Your mom goes to college...
Sir Bart Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.03.23 20:44:00 - [196] Originally by: Snake Doctor Man. This topic will never die. The devs spoke on this issue. What do you want? A personal letter for every concern? Oveur answered your question. This thread has totally run its course. Oveur didn't really understand the problem it seems. The region we live in H3J8-U is a new region, and the asteroid belts are broken in it. They are not fixed. Some people read his post and thought he was saying they are fixed and when 1.4 comes out they will be repaired but we have waited and confirmed, our region's asteroids are still broken and still need to be fixed. Can a dev please look at the problem instead of just giving us **** for reporting bugs? -Bart
Cruel Fox Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.23 20:52:00 - [197] well this patch should fix roids and exploration: guess what Roids and Exploration still broken But we got 1 nice imporvement: Drones r now broken, they dont drop nothing at all from time to time. So we have broken roids broken ratz and broken Exploration; can someone explain me whats still left? siting in outpost i guess
Sir Bart Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.03.23 21:05:00 - [198] I should be more specific since a lot of people are just saying the asteroids are broken and not going into specifics. The problem is the amount of minerals in each asteroid. They pop so fast when you mine that although we have people in our alliance with many hulk accounts, the abc's in our outpost system don't get touched. Why? The pop so fast it's more of a hassle than a profit to mine them. They pop and you spend your time moving your hulks to the next asteroids. Are we supposed to start fitting afterburners on our hulks to get any use out of our space? Please look at your so called tables and tell us you're going to handle it. Thanks. P.S. the region in question is H3J8-U (system is 5ed-4e). -Bart
Standard Deviation	Posted - 2007.03.23 21:20:00 - [199] Edited by: Standard Deviation on 23/03/2007 21:18:06 Originally by: CCP Oveur If you don't like it there, there are about 5000 other solar systems which you can go for. have you guys looked at your regions lately and the disparity between them. The total bugs in some vs. others. Why does Delve and fountain have constellation sov. for NPC stations but GW doesnt. Why do some regions have an ridiculous amount of off grid belts you can no longer scan down. Why are static complexes left in the game, when everyone and i mean nearly everyone i meet in game prefers the exploration system, and yes this includes people that farm static complexes. Do you guys even look at this stuff, do you have explanitions for it. Or is it just screw you, move... Well i guess if you cant fix your game/stop cheating there is about 5000 other games we can go play. I love most parts of this game, but what arrogance in your post. Grow up and stop acting like a child.
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.03.23 22:25:00 - [200] Originally by: Snake Doctor Man. This topic will never die. The devs spoke on this issue. What do you want? A personal letter for every concern? Oveur answered your question. This thread has totally run its course. Every time you post to this one, a cute kitten dies. Did you know that? Not just the cute ones, but those ultra-cute soft and cuddly ones with the big orange fur. Yeah. You know what ones I'm talking about. ~160 cute and cuddly kittens have died as a result of rehashing things over and over. Are you guys happy now? Kittens will continue to die until I'm confident the Devs are aware of the problem. Galaxian Recruitment Info
Snake Doctor Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.23 22:57:00 - [201] Here's the thing; Oveur already told you they made things a certain way out there. How can this thread be in any way constructive any longer? +5 kitties. Your mom goes to college...
Reachok Amarr Low Grade Ore Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.03.23 23:06:00 - [202] Originally by: Snake Doctor Man. This topic will never die. The devs spoke on this issue. What do you want? A personal letter for every concern? Oveur answered your question. This thread has totally run its course. Every time you post to this one, a cute kitten dies. Did you know that? Not just the cute ones, but those ultra-cute soft and cuddly ones with the big orange fur. Yeah. You know what ones I'm talking about. ~160 cute and cuddly kittens have died as a result of rehashing things over and over. Are you guys happy now? Valuable feedback there!! Anyway, I've mined lows in Stain, in Catch and in Empire. In those areas planet sized veldspar does NOT pop in 2-5 cycles of my T1 fitted covetor. People posting the above type of comments either do not understand the frustration or are just trolling. We all came out for the open spaces to make new homes, to mine, to rat and to explore. What we got are broken asteroids, broken exploration sites and broken promises. If CCP would simply fix the one issue with the asteroid respawn and growth rate, most of the protests would calm down I believe.
Reachok Amarr Low Grade Ore Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.03.23 23:08:00 - [203] Originally by: Snake Doctor Here's the thing; Oveur already told you they made things a certain way out there. How can this thread be in any way constructive any longer? +5 kitties. Dude, there are 5000 other threads you can troll in if you're not happy with this one.
Par'Gellen Gallente Low Grade Ore	Posted - 2007.03.23 23:15:00 - [204] Originally by: Reachok Originally by: Snake Doctor Here's the thing; Oveur already told you they made things a certain way out there. How can this thread be in any way constructive any longer? +5 kitties. Dude, there are 5000 other threads you can troll in if you're not happy with this one. R O F L M A O! --- CCP : Save my mousewheel!
Snake Doctor Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.23 23:34:00 - [205] Originally by: Reachok Originally by: Snake Doctor Here's the thing; Oveur already told you they made things a certain way out there. How can this thread be in any way constructive any longer? +5 kitties. Dude, there are 5000 other threads you can troll in if you're not happy with this one. You're missing the point. By "fixing" the roids, the devs will just make them actual size. Tiny. Then people will whine about that. They've already said they won't increase the ore amount, just the spawn rate. They've already given concrete answers to these questions. Sure, it sucks that the new regions are so bleak. I lived out there. I mined a little. I ratted a bit. I thought it sucked too until I realized what exactly they are doing out there. Adding any more to this is only deconstructive. We got answers to the questions we asked. Some of us REALLY LIKE that the new regions ARE SO DEVIOID OF ANYTHING. Surely someone else can back me up on this. I feel like Ka-Tet +/-1 or 2 more even know what it's like out there and this thread really shows it. Some of us want the challenge, that's why we went out there. If we wanted another GW or Venal or some region well endowed with tons of ** everyone wants, we'd move there. Really, back off on the accusations of trolling--- when someone comes to your own little quiet lake and petittions that they steam roll right over it in favor of a wal-mart, you'd have something to say about it too. Your mom** goes to college...
3rdD Dave Gallente Dark Entropy Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.03.24 00:01:00 - [206] well i would love my corp to move else where but we have soo much time invested in POS fittings and logistics its just not practical to simply up and leave like Oveur said. Straight up, the new drone regions are rubbish, its simply not worth fighting for, and with alloys prices dropping making peeps work harder for longer its just not fun anymore. Theres just no real incentive ISK wise to stay here so Oveur saying " Were leaving them as something differnt " just doesn't cut the mustard. Again, not everyone up here is miners,so if the roids do get fixed..what about Npc drops which are becoming crap, the spawn rates are sparse some times as well.. IMo take your new regions and shove them lol.
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.03.24 00:32:00 - [207] Originally by: Snake Doctor You're missing the point. By "fixing" the roids, the devs will just make them actual size. Tiny. Then people will whine about that. They've already said they won't increase the ore amount, just the spawn rate. They've already given concrete answers to these questions. Sure, it sucks that the new regions are so bleak. I lived out there. I mined a little. I ratted a bit. I thought it sucked too until I realized what exactly they are doing out there. Adding any more to this is only deconstructive. We got answers to the questions we asked. Some of us REALLY LIKE that the new regions ARE SO DEVIOID OF ANYTHING. Surely someone else can back me up on this. I feel like Ka-Tet +/-1 or 2 more even know what it's like out there and this thread really shows it. Some of us want the challenge, that's why we went out there. If we wanted another GW or Venal or some region well endowed with tons of **** everyone wants, we'd move there. Really, back off on the accusations of trolling--- when someone comes to your own little quiet lake and petittions that they steam roll right over it in favor of a wal-mart, you'd have something to say about it too. There's lots of stuff the new regions aren't supposed to have - they don't have them. But there's stuff the new regions ARE supposed to have - they don't have them either. There is a problem with asteroid spawns. Nowhere else in Eve do the rocks spawn so small. It's got to be some kind of error/bug. The rocks are spawning approx 5-10% of the size they should. Galaxian Recruitment Info
Rudlls Minmatar Ascent of Ages Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.24 02:26:00 - [208] Edited by: Rudlls on 24/03/2007 02:27:26 Originally by: Cruel Fox well this patch should fix roids and exploration: guess what Roids and Exploration still broken But we got 1 nice imporvement: Drones r now broken, they dont drop nothing at all from time to time. So we have broken roids broken ratz and broken Exploration; can someone explain me whats still left? siting in outpost i guess NOW I got it! the drone regions are preparation for the walking in stations Oveur, you are forgetting you are not talking to children, but to PAYING customers, who are asking you, the "Service Provider" to fix the service you are SELLING. Please, spare us of your ourbursts of attitude. None of the requests here are unreasonable, and everyone was VERY patient. You promise fix and deliver nothing. How are we supposed to take it? :edit for readability
Xelios Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.03.24 03:17:00 - [209] Quote: Some of us REALLY LIKE that the new regions ARE SO DEVIOID OF ANYTHING. Surely someone else can back me up on this. Not me, I'd like some content with my space thanks. What's the point in living there if you have to go somewhere else to do anything that's not pvp? How is an alliance with multiple outposts supposed to support itself when every roid in the region is broken? Jump minerals down from empire? Might as well just pack up and go live there then, it completely defeats the purpose of having your own space in 0.0. People claim 0.0 space and set up outposts to be self sufficient, how are you supposed to be self sufficient when every aspect of pve in the new regions is either broken or non-existant? It's a wasteland, a desert. Plain and simple.
Reachok Amarr Low Grade Ore Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.03.24 04:10:00 - [210] Originally by: Snake Doctor Originally by: Reachok Originally by: Snake Doctor Here's the thing; Oveur already told you they made things a certain way out there. How can this thread be in any way constructive any longer? +5 kitties. Dude, there are 5000 other threads you can troll in if you're not happy with this one. You're missing the point. By "fixing" the roids, the devs will just make them actual size. Tiny. Then people will whine about that. They've already said they won't increase the ore amount, just the spawn rate. They've already given concrete answers to these questions. Sure, it sucks that the new regions are so bleak. I lived out there. I mined a little. I ratted a bit. I thought it sucked too until I realized what exactly they are doing out there. Adding any more to this is only deconstructive. We got answers to the questions we asked. Some of us REALLY LIKE that the new regions ARE SO DEVIOID OF ANYTHING. Surely someone else can back me up on this. I feel like Ka-Tet +/-1 or 2 more even know what it's like out there and this thread really shows it. Some of us want the challenge, that's why we went out there. If we wanted another GW or Venal or some region well endowed with tons of **** everyone wants, we'd move there. Really, back off on the accusations of trolling--- when someone comes to your own little quiet lake and petittions that they steam roll right over it in favor of a wal-mart, you'd have something to say about it too. Now see, that was much better!! But once again, you have missed the point. I'm not asking for complexes. I'm not asking for stations. I'm not asking for anything that isn't within reason. Yes, the drone regions are bleak. And yes the roids are broken. Fix the roids, is all I'm asking. Please explain how making them actual size makes them smaller? My corp mined up some veld and other lows the other night. Bunch of hulks and covetors in high sec space. Took a while on roids that are smaller than the new region roids. None of us are asking for giant sized maximum overdrive roids. Just the same size as other places in eve. In Catch, which had only a few systems we could mine anything close to high end ores in, the veld and scord had the same respawn and growth rates of empire. The same in Stain. So, what is wrong with asking for that same thing in the drone regions? We're not peeing in your lake dude, we want to add some wastewater management to it.

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