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Tom Marksson
Zima Corp Infinity Space.
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:06:23 -
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This update is horrible. If I fly a ship that costs 3 or even 25 billion ISK, I must be able to make much more profit than I could do on a 500 mil Rattlsnake. Because there's one universal rule:
I risk to lose my carrier/supercarrier to a first interceptor/cyno-Sabre while farming in null-sec, that's why I must receive an adequate amount of ISK to reimburse the loss, for example. If I don't - what's the point to undock a super? What's the point to have a super? What's the point to learn a super? What's the point to have a separate account for a capital-holder?.. What's the point to have capitals and supercapitals in game? Let's remove all of them and fly in small-scale frigate gangs.
Why don't you in addition make capitals and supercapitals 50% cheaper to restore (what do you call it?) the "balance"?
Per aspera ad astra.
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Krypleria
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
8
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:06:54 -
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Faruzen en Divalone wrote:Krypleria wrote:Faruzen en Divalone wrote:August - Breeze wrote:I put my money where my mouth is and I just CANCELED my second account that I had for my carrier pilot. I will transfer my capital pilot over to my main account. (note: I have never PVE'ed in my carrier)
I encourage everyone to do the same thing!
CCP sticks it to us, we need to stick them right back by decreasing THEIR income! So now, you can only make like 150 mil per hour instead of 200? Worth to cancel account yea. 1 hour longer time to make PLEX ... It is actually from 150m to 90m with alot more risk to fighter losses wich bring that down even more. Not too mention... the biggest problem in eve is actually there are NO more isk burners... like wars ... because .... CITADELS ! Is ISK really burned when you lose ships / citadels? Think about it. You are paying for the things to someone else. He has the money now. You lose the ship/citadel, he still has the ISK you gave him. You generate more ISK via ratting, he mines more ore and makes more ships. You give him the generated ISK, he gives you ship. So what is burned here actually is ORE, not ISK. ISK is burned via insurances that expire, LP stores, NPC repairs and market taxes. The good ISK sink would be simply more transactions. So yea, wars do it too, but its not so direct and doesnt neccesarily have the effect.
ORE is not ISK making per se... it becomes ISK when someone that RATTED or made missions or incursions pays for the ORE in either hull or modules.
Losing a ship = a part of the total amount of ISK payed for it is lost even with ofc .. SRP ...
Please think about it....
So ...
Step 1. Make nullsec "Not safe" again Step 2. Create situation in wich Alliances have incentives to go to war for territory/resources Step 3: Advertise that content
instead of :
Step 1: Nerf isk makers Step 2: Lose overall players because of lack of content Step 3: Advertise PLEX Step 4: Lose more overall players because PLEX and lack of content because less players.
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Santinav
Banished Braindead Zombies Circle-Of-Two
3
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:07:24 -
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Lucian James wrote:Total Newbie wrote:Well Played CCP ! ! ! ! !
You have taken a war game and made it nearly impossible for any entity to deploy and have a good scrap. Hello Jump fatigue.
You forced entities into a sandbox in individual regions to play magical wands meet Harry Potter. Hello entosis!
You made the sandbox indestructible by allowing thousands of citadels that take a week to destroy. Hello Upwell.
You forced people to do nothing in the game but stay in their region ratting and mining to get some form of content.
And now you want to try to blame everything on Capital and Super Capital ratting?????????
The problem CCP is your utter lack of vision and your myopic view that left the part out, that this is a WAR GAME!
Well played indeed, politicians have nothing on you. You have garnered more control over a sinking ship, with the people who fund your venture literally finding another war game to play. #CCPigs
#CCPigs |
JC Mieyli
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
77
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:07:25 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:JC Mieyli wrote:
so in short all this does is make isk scarcer and more valuable it makes plex more scarcer and more valuable it makes isk harder to obtain and encourages plex sales from players who struggle to farm isk
All of these are good things. When I started ratting and getting 20 mil isk ticks in 2011 I was like WOW, 20 mil. 20 mill per tick back then meant I was RICH lol. CCP buffed somethings and over time it took more and more and more ratting just to get the same amount of "purchasing power" I had in 2011. Now i got a Rattlesnake that can do 40 mil ticks and the feeling is like "meh" It won't happen overnight, CCP screwed up when they opened up these big isk and mineral faucets and let them run for so long, be eventually things will settle and PVe activities in null will fell like they are worth it again as you don't have to grind near as much. As I said, people are just too short sighted to see that this ends up being a good thing, especially for us who rat. im not sure why they are good things all it does is increase the time it takes people to plex it doesnt cause the price of plex to drop ccp want to keep rich players rich because they know they will hoard plex
i mean in the long term sure maybe eventually the economy could reach a certain equilibrium but not in any meaningful timeframe
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Slivo
Beehive Surveillance X877.
28
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:08:03 -
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Any test on wormhole impact with those changes ? Or is your changes only based of nullsec players ?
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Sassura
Sassy's Corporation
16
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:08:38 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Sassura wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:I said this on reddit but I'll say it here too. I know it won't stop the freak out because people can be pretty dumb when it comes to money, but here it is anyways.
People are too short sighted to understand that these nerfs (this one to carriers/supers and the one about escalations) end up helping people by making deadspace loot and pirate BS BPCs way more valuable across the board. It shifts the income making from anom grinding to doing 10/10s (sure you have to grind for them, but the fewer times you get them will eventually be made up by price after the current stockpiles are depleted). This is a good thing. People who don't agree with you may not be dumb. They may simply feel that a substantial nerf to fighters is not the best way to go about making the changes that this game needs. I know that CCP has been heavy handed in the past. BUT it's easy to look at the MERs, see when carriers got buffed, see the explosion of null sec bounty generation, and understand that fighters were the cause of that. This one time, CCP is nerfing the actual cause of the problem.
CCP have the games best interests at heart, Im sure. It's their business. That doesn't mean that there won't be frustration and backlash when they introduce heavy nerfs to fix problems that, essentially, they have caused. I'm not convinced that the damage done by fighters is the actual cause of the problem, when infact only 3 of the 6 null sec ratting anoms are even considered worth ratting. Also, I ponder how the MER would have looked if even the newest players in EvE couldn't just splash some cash on their favourite game and inject into the 'top tier' isk making. That fact makes me feel like the player base deserve a little more respect than they are being shown with the latest fixes, which feel like they still fail to address the actual problems at a base level.
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Faruzen en Divalone
Black Wings Syndicate
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:08:46 -
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Tom Marksson wrote:This update is horrible. If I fly a ship that costs 3 or even 25 billion ISK, I must be able to make much more profit than I could do on a 500 mil Rattlsnake. Because there's one universal rule: I risk to lose my carrier/supercarrier to a first interceptor/cyno-Sabre while farming in null-sec, that's why I must receive an adequate amount of ISK to reimburse the loss, for example. If I don't - what's the point to undock a super? What's the point to have a super? What's the point to learn a super? What's the point to have a separate account for a capital-holder?.. What's the point to have capitals and supercapitals in game? Let's remove all of them and fly in small-scale frigate gangs. Why don't you in addition make capitals and supercapitals 50% cheaper to restore (what do you call it?) the "balance"?
No you cant simply make more money with bigger ships indefinitely. It would ruin the game economy if more people did it and prices of everything would skyrocket, making people who dont use your method of ISK generating effectively poor and not being able to afford anything, for example PLEX. |
Burberry Muffin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:09:21 -
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Gwinet wrote:Lucian James wrote: From skill injectors, to pictures of gold bar stacks as Plex, to nerfing Rorquals time and time again... CCP is coming off more and more like a money grubbing sh:t-heel of a company only interested in base profit for themselves and squeezing us out of our time and money.
Stop making it more difficult for people with less RL money and time to play this game. The people ratting in carriers and mining in rorquals spent a lot of time, money/isk and emotional investment getting into these ships. They do so because many are in areas of high-end PVP and this keeps them fighting.
If you have a problem with PVE areas with no PVP recourse... vast renter fields churning out isk that goes into a few wallets of pilots that never PVP nor spend it, find a creative way to deal with THAT problem, instead of nerfing everyone in what appears as a blatant attempt to get people to buy more Plex so you can horde our money.
I am getting really sick of your stupidity and carelessness lately.
#CCPigs
I absolutely agree!
AGREE |
JC Mieyli
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
77
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:09:38 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:JC Mieyli wrote: so in short all this does is make isk scarcer and more valuable
Go to the last economic blog, read the isk faucet figure. Then also realise that as of I think it was Feb 92% of all bounties come from Null Sec. Now finally look at the slope of the isk graph in the last month. Now apply some basic common sense, realise that the isk faucet figure jumped hugely when the carrier change went through and has been hidden for a few months by other circumstance such as the change in what defines 'active' isk, and accounts leaving again after the sudden spike when they returned. This will only slow down the recent inflation, not stop it by any means, plenty of isk will still be farmed in null and plenty of that from carriers. sure thats what im saying but to somehow translate that into a decrease in plex prices is erroneous imo
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Heleana Commodus Luyseyal
Old Town Blades of Grass
6
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:11:55 -
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Ok, lets all stop ratting in any other ship than VNI, why you may ask?
Because VNI/Ishtar gives you 20 mills ticks and you dont even need to lock targets, warp to a site drop drones and that is that, you dont need to even lock targets if your drones are set to agressive. Be back in 30-40 mins when your haven is done. Have 10x VNI accounts and thats it, and farm inflation till end of days.
CCP Logic - you DONT NEED TO DO NOTHING to get ISK because you employ high school kids that code for you, and that is not an issue. On the other hand you have drug adicts which are going trough statistical data and they gave us this perfect solution. Nerf a ship class which is already not that great at all in PvP, main reason why that class of ships even exist, because that ship can rat well, yeah it can rat good, but at a price, you can only use 1 carrier to do so, with a great micro managment from a player/APM. So it gives a good amount of isk for really big effort.
AFK VNI/Ishtars army, where you DONT NEED TO DO NOTHING for nice isk.With 0 effort, 0 skill points, 0 investment, everybody can have their personal VNI army, 5 VNI's / Ishtars basically pull same numbers as a carrier / super isk/h wise, but for 0 effort.Didnt come to your mind that this is actual problem, not carriers?
Simply introduce same mechanic which other ship have and VNI/Ishtars dont.They dont even need to LOCK THEIR TARGETS to be able to get ISK from them. |
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Panther X
High Flyers Northern Coalition.
131
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:12:05 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Sassura wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:I said this on reddit but I'll say it here too. I know it won't stop the freak out because people can be pretty dumb when it comes to money, but here it is anyways.
People are too short sighted to understand that these nerfs (this one to carriers/supers and the one about escalations) end up helping people by making deadspace loot and pirate BS BPCs way more valuable across the board. It shifts the income making from anom grinding to doing 10/10s (sure you have to grind for them, but the fewer times you get them will eventually be made up by price after the current stockpiles are depleted). This is a good thing. People who don't agree with you may not be dumb. They may simply feel that a substantial nerf to fighters is not the best way to go about making the changes that this game needs. I know that CCP has been heavy handed in the past. BUT it's easy to look at the MERs, see when carriers got buffed, see the explosion of null sec bounty generation, and understand that fighters were the cause of that. This one time, CCP is nerfing the actual cause of the problem.
If you go one step further and assess what the actual big picture problem is...there is no counter to the faucet. You need a sink to drain it. There is nothing wrong with having wealth, when there is something to spend it on. Right now there is no sink, no overflow tank, no sump pump nor levy to stop the flood. Reducing slightly ( and we are talking slightly) the amount of isk incoming, will still not resolve the issue of too much personal wealth.
Personal, Corproate and Alliance Income tax, asset repossession, removal of insurance payouts, would all be a big step in resolving the personal wealth. Bans of tax evaders, wallet negative adjusting, and forensic accounting could all be used to slow down and control the massive unflux of risk free and risk adverse income streams.
My Titan smells of rich Corinthian Leather...
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Faruzen en Divalone
Black Wings Syndicate
15
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:12:23 -
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JC Mieyli wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:JC Mieyli wrote: so in short all this does is make isk scarcer and more valuable
Go to the last economic blog, read the isk faucet figure. Then also realise that as of I think it was Feb 92% of all bounties come from Null Sec. Now finally look at the slope of the isk graph in the last month. Now apply some basic common sense, realise that the isk faucet figure jumped hugely when the carrier change went through and has been hidden for a few months by other circumstance such as the change in what defines 'active' isk, and accounts leaving again after the sudden spike when they returned. This will only slow down the recent inflation, not stop it by any means, plenty of isk will still be farmed in null and plenty of that from carriers. sure thats what im saying but to somehow translate that into a decrease in plex prices is erroneous imo
In open economy like in EVE, if everyone buying PLEX has less money, PLEX price will go down. Sellers will still want to sell it, supply is probably quite constant, but since buyers only have limited ISK, the sellers will have to reduce the price to sell their PLEX. Its really just simple economics and it does work statistically.
Still, I am not agreeing with Fighter damage nerf, PVP should not be nerfed at all! Rats should be harder to kill with fighters and anoms should not be AFK doable. |
Ezio Sotken
nul-li-fy Circle-Of-Two
11
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:14:01 -
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Burberry Muffin wrote:Gwinet wrote:Lucian James wrote: From skill injectors, to pictures of gold bar stacks as Plex, to nerfing Rorquals time and time again... CCP is coming off more and more like a money grubbing sh:t-heel of a company only interested in base profit for themselves and squeezing us out of our time and money.
Stop making it more difficult for people with less RL money and time to play this game. The people ratting in carriers and mining in rorquals spent a lot of time, money/isk and emotional investment getting into these ships. They do so because many are in areas of high-end PVP and this keeps them fighting.
If you have a problem with PVE areas with no PVP recourse... vast renter fields churning out isk that goes into a few wallets of pilots that never PVP nor spend it, find a creative way to deal with THAT problem, instead of nerfing everyone in what appears as a blatant attempt to get people to buy more Plex so you can horde our money.
I am getting really sick of your stupidity and carelessness lately.
#CCPigs
I absolutely agree! AGREE
The motion has been approved and seconded.
ALL in favor say Aye |
Orion Kerensky
Pure Avarice. Pandemic Legion
3
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:14:01 -
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CCP needs to do a better job at cloaking nerfs directed towards how players make isk. We don't want them to look too greedy as they move towards PTW |
JC Mieyli
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
77
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:15:52 -
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Faruzen en Divalone wrote:In open economy like in EVE, if everyone buying PLEX has less money, PLEX price will go down. Sellers will still want to sell it, supply is probably quite constant, but since buyers only have limited ISK, the sellers will have to reduce the price to sell their PLEX. Its really just simple economics and it does work statistically. well its not as simple as you make it sound when you have people investing in assets then the value of those assets increases as a result of ccp meddling with mineral values nerfing mining and then nerfing ratting income
those people with large stockpiles of assetts only see their wealth increase for no reason other than ccp messing with things and those people will continue to stockpile plex intil demand for plex decreases and im sure you can figure out what a decrease in demand for plex means
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Panther X
High Flyers Northern Coalition.
132
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:17:24 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:JC Mieyli wrote:
so in short all this does is make isk scarcer and more valuable it makes plex more scarcer and more valuable it makes isk harder to obtain and encourages plex sales from players who struggle to farm isk
All of these are good things. When I started ratting and getting 20 mil isk ticks in 2011 I was like WOW, 20 mil. 20 mill per tick back then meant I was RICH lol. CCP buffed somethings and over time it took more and more and more ratting just to get the same amount of "purchasing power" I had in 2011. Now i got a Rattlesnake that can do 40 mil ticks and the feeling is like "meh" It won't happen overnight, CCP screwed up when they opened up these big isk and mineral faucets and let them run for so long, be eventually things will settle and PVe activities in null will fell like they are worth it again as you don't have to grind near as much. As I said, people are just too short sighted to see that this ends up being a good thing, especially for us who rat.
You are still taking too small of a picture to make a valid argument. What about the people in Jita making bank scamming idiots? Why should they continue to rack up huge wallets with ZERO risk? Why should a small percentage alone be forced to surrender their income streams? There needs to be bigger sweeping changes in the game to keep it viable. CCP arbitrarily going after small groups of specific income streams doesn't solve anything. We will always find a way to min/max each meta they come up with, except for a game wide mechanic that affects EVERYONE regardless of income method. The wealth hoarders will have to pay more of course, but that's the cost of doing business.
My Titan smells of rich Corinthian Leather...
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Azn Assassin
Dissidence Dawn The-Culture
5
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:17:42 -
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Is this a damn joke? CCP we are past April so you can drop the April fool's routine. How about you save everyone trouble and just delete carriers and super carriers from the game. You do this CCP you'll be -1 active subscription here I'll take my second account down. Think carefully before you do this, you will lose subscriptions over taking a cheap way out on a design decision. |
Abagah Khan
Shinigami Miners ChaosTheory.
6
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:18:23 -
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Quote:If you go one step further and assess what the actual big picture problem is...there is no counter to the faucet. You need a sink to drain it. There is nothing wrong with having wealth, when there is something to spend it on. Right now there is no sink, no overflow tank, no sump pump nor levy to stop the flood. Reducing slightly ( and we are talking slightly) the amount of isk incoming, will still not resolve the issue of too much personal wealth.
Personal, Corproate and Alliance Income tax, asset repossession, removal of insurance payouts, would all be a big step in resolving the personal wealth. Bans of tax evaders, wallet negative adjusting, and forensic accounting could all be used to slow down and control the massive unflux of risk free and risk adverse income streams.
this is something ive noticed myself lately. Outside of skins, there is nothing to sink isk into. So i put it in anotehr ship.. or in this case the market, making even more isk that i have nothing to spend it on.. |
Faruzen en Divalone
Black Wings Syndicate
16
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:18:55 -
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JC Mieyli wrote:Faruzen en Divalone wrote:In open economy like in EVE, if everyone buying PLEX has less money, PLEX price will go down. Sellers will still want to sell it, supply is probably quite constant, but since buyers only have limited ISK, the sellers will have to reduce the price to sell their PLEX. Its really just simple economics and it does work statistically. well its not as simple as you make it sound when you have people investing in assets then the value of those assets increases as a result of ccp meddling with mineral values nerfing mining and then nerfing ratting income those people with large stockpiles of assetts only see their wealth increase for no reason other than ccp messing with things and those people will continue to stockpile plex intil demand for plex decreases and im sure you can figure out what a decrease in demand for plex means
Demand for PLEX will only go down if people stop playing. And price of stockpiles going up is bad in any way? The stockpiles will run out eventually, if its profitable for the owners to turn them into ISK. Then the ISK can go into circulation and into ISK sinks. Overall good. |
Dalron
Infinite Holdings Ltd
11
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:19:06 -
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Instead of nerfing carriers add some proper PVE content, add capital escalations the hubs/sanctums etc with scrambling battleships to hold the carriers in place so that content can be generated, people can still use carriers, and get great rewards but at much higher risk balancing things out. |
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Mierin Arthie
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
20
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:19:10 -
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CCP Larrikin wrote:Hi Space Friends, Coming with our release on Tuesday, weGÇÖre significantly reducing the damage output of Fighters. Why:We are making this change because Carriers & Supercarriers are too strong in PvE, specifically anomaly ratting in Nullsec. As you may have seen in the May Monthly Economy Report, there is a significant upward trend in the Money Supply. This is primarily due to NPC Bounties. This trend is unsustainable. Having such a large ISK faucet is bad for the economy, and this ISK faucet is concentrated to a relatively small number of players. We also think that Carriers and Supercarriers are a bit too effective in PvP now. This change will significantly change the PvP balance, but weGÇÖre confident that Carriers and Supercarriers will remain powerful options for PvP. What:- Light Fighters (Space Superiority): No Change
- Light Fighters (Attack): 20% reduction to Basic Attack and Heavy Rocket Salvo damage.
- Support Fighters: No Change
- Heavy Fighters (Heavy Attack): 10% reduction to Basic Attack and Torpedo Salvo damage.
- Heavy Fighters (Long Range Attack): 30% reduction to Basic Attack damage.
- Heavy Fighters (Shadow): No Change
- NPCs are 15% more likely to shoot at fighters than they are currently.
We will continue to observe the economy after these changes and will make adjustments as necessary to keep it healthy for all our players.
Why not just reduce bounty payouts? Isnt that the problem?
Please CCP, you should have at least 2 functioning braincells available at the office. Rub them togeather and you should be able to come up with something better than this. It would also go a long way in preventing errors like last nights skill pause script. |
Kendarr
Zebra Corp Goonswarm Federation
64
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:19:26 -
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CCP Larrikin wrote:Hi Space Friends.
Your not my friend!
MY DANK RATTING TICKS :'(
Zebra-Corp
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Nick Samerr
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:20:01 -
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good change :) |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners ChaosTheory.
16063
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:20:47 -
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Sassura wrote:[That doesn't mean that there won't be frustration and backlash when they introduce heavy nerfs to fix problems that, essentially, they have caused.
I've been saying this to CCP on these forums for years. They create their own problems by not understanding that they have to be careful about giving people stuff that is too powerful, because people get used to it and feel like you took something away when you balance it.
My 1st brush with this was high sec lvl 5 missions. CCP introduced lvl 5 missions to give people incentive to go to low sec, but a bug let you spawn the actual mission in high sec if you were in a low sec system that bordered high sec. A whole high sec lvl 5 community spawned around this. And CCP took YEARS to fix it. So when they did the cry was "why did you remove lvl 5s from high sec?!?!?!?".
They tried to explain that they should have never been there in the 1st place but it was too late, the anger was already there.
CCP did this again and again, lately with ratting carriers and rorqs. You can see by this thread and others how it's being perceived.
CCP, stop putting OP stuff in in the 1st place and this won't happen.
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Xantopeuss
Balcan United Elite Brothers in Arms Alliance
2
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:20:48 -
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Ok here is my opinion.... First, You guys in CCP don't know anymore what are You doing. Second, the real problem for You is not to many isk (bounty), mining, production in eve, You just work against Delve region and possible CFC in general.
Ok You will nerf fighters, rorqs etc. but You will do that to whole EVE Universe and again Delve will be No1. Why? In that one region 30000 people lives!!!! And how much people left in all others regions? 50000? I'm not takling about alts. Whit this latest updates You will only lost people... We like to play EvE but it seems that You worh very hard to make us stop... Maybe thats the real goal? You have some better game with better income so its lime for EVE to dye? Mah.... |
Fl4chz4ng3
Lost in shadow Brothers of Tangra
17
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:20:58 -
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As always wh people will be happy and the others not
Tks for this change you just lost 2 subscriptions
Enjoy your subcaps 20m ticks people !
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JC Mieyli
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
77
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:23:39 -
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Faruzen en Divalone wrote:Demand for PLEX will only go down if people stop playing. And price of stockpiles going up is bad in any way? The stockpiles will run out eventually, if its profitable for the owners to turn them into ISK. Then the ISK can go into circulation and into ISK sinks. Overall good. yep decrease in demand means decrease in playerbase the stockpiles wont run out because they are being hoarded people buy them off the market and sit on them like bars of gold they like seeing their wealth increase people with wealth dont stockpile isk they stockpile plex when the demand for plex decreases then the value of plex will decrease thats when hoarders will start to panic and start offloading their plex until that happens they will hoard it and not sell it
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Faruzen en Divalone
Black Wings Syndicate
16
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:24:11 -
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I would really like to know, if all these people saying "I am unsubing", "I am canceling my accounts" really go and do it, or just try to take CCP hostage |
Jonas Skypilot
Banished Braindead Zombies Circle-Of-Two
0
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:24:46 -
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Lucian James wrote:CCP Larrikin wrote:...there is a significant upward trend in the Money Supply. This is primarily due to NPC Bounties. This trend is unsustainable. Having such a large ISK faucet is bad for the economy, and this ISK faucet is concentrated to a relatively small number of players. From skill injectors, to pictures of gold bar stacks as Plex, to nerfing Rorquals time and time again... CCP is coming off more and more like a money grubbing sh:t-heel of a company only interested in base profit for themselves and squeezing us out of our time and money. Stop making it more difficult for people with less RL money and time to play this game. The people ratting in carriers and mining in rorquals spent a lot of time, money/isk and emotional investment getting into these ships. They do so because many are in areas of high-end PVP and this keeps them fighting. If you have a problem with PVE areas with no PVP recourse... vast renter fields churning out isk that goes into a few wallets of pilots that never PVP nor spend it, find a creative way to deal with THAT problem, instead of nerfing everyone in what appears as a blatant attempt to get people to buy more Plex so you can horde our money. I am getting really sick of your stupidity and carelessness lately. #CCPigs
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iFars
Monkey Attack Squad Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.06.09 13:24:54 -
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If you notice that a member of your company has started to collect money for a car or a house - does he begin to receive lower wages? |
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