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Snezana Snezic
Stvarno losi momci Brothers in Arms Alliance
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:44:59 -
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You still want to nerf Null sec? Next attack could be fatal
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Vitarius Solarius
Facehoof Out of Sight.
88
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:45:42 -
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Can i SD mah Hel now?
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3385
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:46:30 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:Y u no nerf bounties? From where all those ISKs are printed anyway?
Because subcap ratters don't, according to CCP, need a nerf. |
Ringo Caldari
The Institution of Death Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:47:15 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Ringo Caldari wrote:You Guys know the real reason behind this right?
Why let players pay for game time with isk they grind for hours upon hours when we can reduce the income and make it less and less possible for players to play without having to dish out the ol'credit card to buy plex.
CCP - where we don't really give a **** about your in game economy as long as you line our pockets Why would they do that when every single account subbed to the game with PLEX give them more money than an account subbed directly via CC?
Not sure I follow, If you buy plex with IRL money yea, but I can put In time and effort to rat and make isk to pay for my accounts, ergo, no money from my irl wallet to ccp. |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners ChaosTheory.
16075
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:47:56 -
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ivona fly wrote:Just add CAPITAL MISSILE DEFENSE SENTRY and CAPITAL NEUTRALISER SENTRY to the missions
borrow some code from the citadels
Stats _________________________ Hitpoints : really Stronk Damage : 100k per volley Range : Forever _________________________
only targets captial ships or has 99% reduction in effects to non capital ships
Add / subtract the rate of fire for balance
Now carriers are not gimped for PvP!!!
This is about the only reasonable counter proposal I've seen. Too bad it will be drowned out by all the "U SUK CCP" being posted ...
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Ebony Texas
The Alabaster Albatross Sev3rance
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:48:29 -
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its beyond time ccp just remove the security status in null-sec since this impacts everyone regionally. also not all null-sec bounties are the same so you need to stop that bullcrap thinking its an isk faucet for everyone when in fact it isn't..
remove TRU-SEC and bring that to null sec systems.. that's where you imbalanced the income.. Provi for instance is the worst place to earn an income as our pilots struggle to make enough to afford their ships.. this is the change that's needed..
you need to balance out the security system beyond anything else than to keep backtracking and breaking capitals.. this is terrible balance as yet you've proved once again that you have no idea what you're doing when it comes to having a fully balanced game.
Give us Tru-sec.. these players are not some high-sec carebear dwellers.. they have taken the risk and dove straight into the real game in eve online.. the null sec game and that's how ALL of NEW SHOULD BE PLAYING...
but of course we know you wont nerf that high-sec incursion income.. oh no no no.. you wont dare hurt those guys..
Carriers and Super's deserve the love just as much as the rorqual and you have failed back to back on both with these nerf's.. this is totally pathetic.. you need to send this to Seagull cause its obvious she broke her spreadsheet and now filling our socks up with coal..
SHAME on you CCP SHAME SHAME SHAME!
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Valiant Swart
Fearless Tiger. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:48:52 -
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so ccp nerfing all ways to make isk and have cut down plex does this mean that ccp wants to sell more plex it seems this way to me.
nerf **** have the server drop so people lose **** because of it brilliant ccp |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3385
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:49:13 -
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Ringo Caldari wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Ringo Caldari wrote:You Guys know the real reason behind this right?
Why let players pay for game time with isk they grind for hours upon hours when we can reduce the income and make it less and less possible for players to play without having to dish out the ol'credit card to buy plex.
CCP - where we don't really give a **** about your in game economy as long as you line our pockets Why would they do that when every single account subbed to the game with PLEX give them more money than an account subbed directly via CC? Not sure I follow, If you buy plex with IRL money yea, but I can put In time and effort to rat and make isk to pay for my accounts, ergo, no money from my irl wallet to ccp.
Where is the PLEX you buy on the market coming from?
CCP does not give a damn who's money it is as long as it become an income for them. It's still more money for them at the end of the day. |
Ganja Wheels
The Cynosural Sisters Really Strong Alliance
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:49:15 -
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i'm sure all your customers, who have just spent real money on injectors and plex to fly carriers and supers, will happily spend more money injecting other ships now you have ruined these. Plan worked CCP
Why would anyone commit a 2-3 bill carrier, when a battleship will do similar damage for a lower price?
This is an unnecessary and badly thought out nerf |
Revival Lolloking
Oscura Simmetria The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:50:20 -
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But honestly ... are you crazy? Do you want mass abandonment by the players of this game? There are no words ... convince yourself that you are making a mad mistake!!!! Do not mix the abnormal mining of some regions with the carrier ratting ... there are two different things you have to solve in different ways !!! |
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Dawny Star
Control-Space DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:50:59 -
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Ok to offer a slightly different suggestion to lowering our perceived mountains of ISK.
Give us a reason to PVP again. Null sec wars are a huge ISK sink, they create lots of player content, generate headlines, and gave alliances a reason to be competitive with each other. I have more ISK than I used to because I used to spend a lot more time invading/defending Sov. I used to enjoy it too.
We blew much more **** up when we was able to travel.
One of the reasons I can earn a lot more ISK these days by the way is Fatigue/Jump range. I can rat really quite safely these days, I'm more concerned about wormholers when ratting than I am of the biggest null sec pvp alliances in EvE. Why? Because I know as well as they do that to avoid a day or more of fatigue it takes 2-3 hours to cross the region I live in in a carrier/dread.
If you have to kill super/carrier income because all the above is not up for discussion than ffs please just lower rat bounties instead. My super is not that bloody OP. |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3385
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:52:18 -
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Ebony Texas wrote: but of course we know you wont nerf that high-sec incursion income.. oh no no no.. you wont dare hurt those guys..
Can't wait for everyone to jump on that gravy train only to see how cancer it actually is because even with 3 spawn active, you will never really have more than 9 fleet running at the same time in HS. |
Lightning Q
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:53:53 -
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Ellowah
Since I've been ratting in a carrier for a few weeks now, I can see that you indeed can make a ton of isk this way. And this is indeed a broken mechanic in a certain way.
The security and endless ammount of sites is something I found odd, especially compared to HS It's not because you mine a random spawned jaspet site in HS that you get an instant new one
However nerfing carriers and supers is not going to change anything ! well except a pvp nerf for them
Whoever makes these decisions should know by now PEOPLE ADAPT so nerfing 1 or 2 specific types of ships WILL NOT WORK in the long run
Even if you decide to nerf something for a good reason 5% 10% increments I can get but 30% in one go???????? So this means the ship also becommes 30% cheaper right? Since it's basicly a worthless piece of junk now
Maybe every1 will start smartbomin their sites with their alt armies, who knows Instead of a carrier pilot who actually has to do stuff to make this isk and keep his fighters moving
How about compare isk gained vs the actual actions per minute the account is doing? gues who's going to be at the bottem :p Since this is what EVE strives for right? ACTIVE gameplay?
I find it hard to believe you are all sitting on this pile of market/isk info even with the monthly economic dev blogs and this is what commes out of it ?
One suggestion, since EVERY1 is ratting alone and I want to do stuff with my friends how about a new type of site which spawns random and can/HAS to be run with multiple people instead of solo. (in capitals ofc) Making some use of these new force auxilaries which only undock for pvp
It's THE biggest reason I prefer WH's over anything else in EVE more having to group up to get stuff done While still keeping the scale of things relativly small
And 4 days in advance? rly? it's not like you train for caps in 4 days RLY bad call CCP
Kind Regards, LQ
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3385
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:54:01 -
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Dawny Star wrote:
Give us a reason to PVP again. Null sec wars are a huge ISK sink, they create lots of player content, generate headlines, and gave alliances a reason to be competitive with each other.
Null sec wars are not an ISK sink. They never are and probably never will be. |
PkControl
Cuervos Imperiales Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:54:03 -
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Nice! you **** the carriers again, the last nerf (fighter radius increase) convert the fighters to Crystal Fighters, uselles in PvP, and now you -+-+-+holes increase the chance to hit +15% and reduce the damage???
Why the **** i train since 2006 my Character to all super skills to 5 if i cant use it more in PVP or PVE? What the hell is your problem?! now you cant kill another ships if they hotdrop you! and your Fighters insta-pop if you try use it to defend yourself, the same HP and Resistances but MANY less damage and the ******* Crystal fighters... i own a Super or a rookie ship now?!?!?!
This game is dying and you PRESS MORE To KICK more players from EvE?!!?!? what type of idiots you have in your meetings when you launch that type nefings?!?!? |
Zuri Sae Kouyama
Raised By Wolves Inc DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:54:36 -
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The damage nerfs are too high. If you at the same time would give fighters ECM immunity or at least introduce a new mid slot module that increases ECM resistance of fighters, together with the damage nerf, would be justifiable the damage reduction. Only reason carriers are strong in pvp at the moment are numbers, because we can't field them alone anymore as it would just get jammed out, by a t1 frigate, and die.
The real solution would be to nerf bounty payouts per NPC, or even better the speed of VNIs and Ishtars. Or you could change the sov system to something that doesn't allow sov to be taken in interceptor fleets so that people would actually risk losing some ISK when fighting for sov. |
Anne Bonnay
Gargamels Lair
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:55:05 -
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Pretty much all the points that come to mind have be listed throughout this thread
After all the nerfs to high sp/isk intensive isk generation it is finally time for me to unsub
Great Job CCP, Keep killing EVE!! |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners ChaosTheory.
16075
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:55:14 -
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I'll say again, all the accusations of "omg CCP just wants me to buy plex" are stupid.
If CCP wanted you to buy plex theiy'd BUFF fighters so you can generate isk easier to buy plex. Plex is money in the bank for CCP |
yogizh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
50
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:55:30 -
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Ganja Wheels wrote:i'm sure all your customers, who have just spent real money on injectors and plex to fly carriers and supers
This. |
Driczinella
Oscura Simmetria The Volition Cult
0
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:55:34 -
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JITA BURN!!!!! |
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Crash 888
TRINTEX
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:57:28 -
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Give children candy and snatch it away again, they'll cry.
Best not to give it to them in the first place |
Eye-Luv-Girls wDaddyIssues
Hookers N' Blow
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:58:09 -
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Sapphire Voice wrote:Eye-Luv-Girls wDaddyIssues wrote:Personally I think all the changes of late are all good. Its way too easy for people en mass to farm the game.
There shouldnt be any sources of AFK, Passive Income.
Well done ccp. You got payed by CCP or what?))))
Not really I just enjoy the salt and tears when they nerf stuff. The first round of rorqual nerfs everyone was up in arms threatening to sell all their rorquals, and unsub accounts. Its a big joke.
Everyone will calm down in a week go back to whatever they were doing and adjust. |
Nut Cullet
Diversity 101 The Bastard Cartel
15
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:58:53 -
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Great changes , although i feel you should reduce the figers by 40% |
Onslaughtor
Phoenix Naval Operations Arataka Research Consortium
175
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:59:05 -
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Knowing some of the offenders I agree with the idea of the nerf. How ever a 20% reduction in damage for the fighters on a normal carrier is painful in PvP. So might I suggest a few gives to the take so that PvPing is still worthwhile in these ships. Change the damage nerf to 15% and open up the fighter bays to support 3 support squadrens. This way carrier pilots still have a bit more teeth in PvP and can actually put thier carriers support fighter bonuses to work in combat, as of right now only the web and point fighters are really used. |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3387
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Posted - 2017.06.09 16:59:22 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:I'll say again, all the accusations of "omg CCP just wants me to buy plex" are stupid.
If CCP wanted you to buy plex theiy'd BUFF fighters so you can generate isk easier to buy plex. Plex is money in the bank for CCP
Their point of view doesn't even make sense if you forget about that. "CCP want us to buy more PLEX" is stupid when you are crying about nerf to player income. Who the **** is gonna buy your PLEX if player income is so god damn nerfed anyway? |
Mace Window
C5 Flight The Serenity Initiative
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Posted - 2017.06.09 17:00:59 -
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Well this f ing sucks a load of nuts |
jkeegs Airuta
Something Something Darkside. Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2017.06.09 17:01:11 -
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305325710652997633/322757174180970496/1QfR_vBECntAao5JV1AMYpHTekp33t8kGVmoHXG21t8.jpg |
Birabanor
PWT0 Fleet Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2017.06.09 17:01:22 -
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Lucy Callagan wrote:To all the people complaining that : "I can't plex my account anymore, ccp is so greedy they want me to pay it with RL money"
Don't you understant that all the plexes that are in the game have been bought on CCP's website and therefore paying the sub in plex or RL money makes no difference to ccp ?
Now i wonder if CCP is aware of that.
All the TIME we spent on those capital skills, drone skills hulls, etc.... Nerfed... i feel like i being robbed cuse of curse you train the high end ships and modules expecting something for your dedication, u need about a year to get those skills in decent lvls and just because some retards feel like we are making insane amounts of isk you want to nerf them? yes u can make a good isk and is in line with the time spent doing PVE. but maybe ure missing that not everyone who plays eve are in school or doing nothing, most the people that i know in game are hardworkers in rl, who want to spend time having fun not getting another job grinding isk to buy stuff nor be forced to pay plexes as a pay to win sandboxgame. we already did the learning courve having fun with frigates, cruisers battleships, now after a long time we can handle capitalships and we want to enjoy them and the reward that comes with it, WE EARN THAT . |
Sharnhorst von Deathwish
STK Scientific The Initiative.
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Posted - 2017.06.09 17:01:55 -
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Guys.. guys.. guys.. and gals. This isn't the feedback center where they adapt and change roll out plans. This is where they come to let you know about the changes coming and give you any feedback they have. In Soviet CCP feedback only rolls one way.
But don't worry. Next will be HAW dps on dreads. Then all will be right in the world with only VNIs, Ishtars, and SP extractor farms will be only acceptable income source. |
Alexander Cliovelle
Special Space Cookies The Volition Cult
1
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Posted - 2017.06.09 17:02:03 -
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Seriously?
I mean give them aggro sure, but 30% are u kidding. PVP dead except as neuting platform. Could have gone with better tracking for npc, or lower bounty but no
Seriously with all the changes it seems u want everyone in rorquals, because they still are op as **** and with the changes to piratebs u may even buff demand so it is getting even better.
I seriously wonder whether CSM did say anything against that |
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