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Usul78
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2007.05.29 17:44:00 -
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I've added a list of suggestions in a seperate topic and think thats its a balanced approach to this topic. Please add suggestions or give feedback as I've read all these posts and tried to find a middle ground as most people are agreeing on some fundamental issues:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=528391
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Davey Dent
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Posted - 2007.05.29 17:50:00 -
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what ever number i am.
LEAVE THE CLOAKS ALONE, THERE ARE FINE HOW THEY ARE.
cheers 
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Cadela Fria
Amarr
The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen
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Posted - 2007.05.29 18:23:00 -
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You forgot to sign! :P
I'll add you as a count though 
Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
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Natsuki
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.29 18:32:00 -
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cloaking should turn on the 15 min combat timer and be probable. except for covert cloaks!
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btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai |
Frued
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.05.29 18:52:00 -
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I've been training for a pilgrim for the past month. I dont want all that training to go to waste.
Signed.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.05.29 19:02:00 -
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for every 1 person that signs here thers like 10 that agree in game and dont post here
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the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some |
Evolyze
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Posted - 2007.05.29 19:04:00 -
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I say No to being abel to Scan tech II cloaks, the others are fine to be scanned.
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Termy
Caldari
Omniscient Order
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.05.29 19:05:00 -
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/signed
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Not Blue = Shoot It
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leir
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Posted - 2007.05.29 19:10:00 -
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 Originally by: SiJira
for every 1 person that signs here thers like 10 that agree in game and dont post here
For every person that signs this there are 10 people who actually understand the game mechanics and what makes a game balanced and know CCP is making the right choice in ridding EVE of AFK cloakers. Don't go AFK and in most cases (or all, depending on how this gets implemented exactly) this much needed balance addition won't affect you in the slightest.
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arthell
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.29 19:10:00 -
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+1 pro-nerf
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Steel Tigeress
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Posted - 2007.05.29 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira
for every 1 person that signs here thers like 10 that abuse these modules in game.
Fixed that for you....
Cloaking was never intedned to be a "Pause" button in 0.0 or lowsec
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Space Hog
NEW DAWN CO
Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2007.05.29 19:15:00 -
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I say nerf the proto-types. But /signed none the less.
Caution
Visit Nuts |
Col Kaos
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Posted - 2007.05.29 19:17:00 -
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Add me up to it - /Signed Col Kaos. Cloaking's there for a reason; if you are able to scan a cloaked ship down, then they might as well bin the non-covert ops cloaking devices altogether.
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2007.05.29 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira
for every 1 person that signs here thers like 10 that agree in game and dont post here
Good point. So that means something like 1100 people agree with you. 
Minus all the alts of course. 
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In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
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Serret Nevets
Puppets on Steroids
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Posted - 2007.05.29 19:54:00 -
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/Signed
cloaking should be just that, cloaking. Not partially hidden for a little bit. Why fix what ain't broken, only whined about. Give me a break.
Spanking or being spanked... it's up to you. |
Firemaster
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Posted - 2007.05.29 20:08:00 -
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/signed
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.05.29 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Serret Nevets
/Signed
cloaking should be just that, cloaking. Not partially hidden for a little bit. Why fix what ain't broken, only whined about. Give me a break.
well written
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the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some |
Steel Tigeress
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Posted - 2007.05.29 20:36:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Tigeress on 29/05/2007 20:35:38
Originally by: Serret Nevets
/Signed
cloaking should be just that, cloaking. Not partially hidden for a little bit. Why fix what ain't broken, only whined about. Give me a break.
You do realize that that right there IS basically the definition for both Cloaking, and Covert right?
Didnt think so...
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.29 20:41:00 -
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/signed to stop the griefers
Originally by: Phoenixhawk
Patching.......... Oh wow look the servers didnt all shut down. Hi-Five another successful patch....Durrrwomp....Hey who turned out the lights, oh look there's light outside the wi |
Cadela Fria
Amarr
The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen
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Posted - 2007.05.29 20:42:00 -
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6 more have signed! Remember to read the OP for updates on the matter We no have 100 people who signed the petition! 
Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
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Makazee
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Posted - 2007.05.29 20:44:00 -
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/signed
Having to work out of hostile space, being able to hide helps a ton. |
Speed Devil
Caldari
Mean Machines
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Posted - 2007.05.29 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fendahl
I posted the following in the Game Development forum a while ago, but will repost it here in case you don't frequent that forum:
Unfortunately it seems that the cloaking changes won't make it in for the next patch. The code changes have already been made, but got rolled back today because the system didn't work out as intended. However, we still plan to address cloaks in a patch in the near future (without nerfing covert ops of course).
AWESOME!!!
or is it a stealthnerf to highsec suicide pirates? |
Dog Cancer
Fade Defense Patrol
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Posted - 2007.05.29 21:21:00 -
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/signed
i use cloaks on most of my ship, gets me through most trouble spots undetected
Please read the Forum rules Impersonating another CCP employee is forbidden on the forum or in the game, even in jest. -Eldo |
Blue Pixie
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Posted - 2007.05.29 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Bentula
Look, 0.0 is not lowsec ok? You dont have to be on your toes the whole time because your buddys massacre everyone they dont know who is entering it. Its alot safer than even highsec unless you directly live in a warzone, and that got nothing to do with cloakers. You think thats not fair? Again bring your buddies in BS to change it or claim your own piece. What you dont have enough buddies for that? Tough call.
And there are always some soft targets around, be it people coming back from a op far out that logged during it or other stuff, you dont need a cloaker to kill them, just good old roamings will do. Im just sick of being unable to do anything against cloakers who hang around our systems. Any mechanic needs a counter, even loggers have the aggression timer, but no some people want to be utterly invulnerable with the click of a module.
Why bother quoting me if you're not going to address anything in the quote?
You said this change won't affect people looking for guerilla warfare. You also said people won't even bother trying to probe down someone who you "assume" is at the keyboard.
First of all, how the hell are you going to know whether or not I'm at the keyboard? Secondly, with the ability to see me in your chat tab AND the means to at least attempt to hunt me down, you're just going to ignore my presence and allow me to attack your more vulnerable operations?? You're still going to be running vulnerable operations... with an ACTIVE hostile in your system looking for guerilla warfare?? Do you have any idea how preposterous that sounds?
And what's your answer if I think it's not fair? Bring my buddies in BS? A conventional war? Even though you insist this change supposedly won't affect guerilla warfare?
But you're right. 0.0 is NOT lowsec. There's a hell of a lot more iskies to be made in null-sec. And you want it to be not just safer than Empire, but a LOT safer than Empire?? Are you kidding me?
Originally by: Bentula
Ok let me explain it to you real careful, im a pvper, im constantly broke cause i fly expensive ships and alot of them. If i go and try to make money than im carebearing. I deserve some time where i can suck some roids or shoot in the belts in peace...
Oh, okay! Because YOU'RE a "pvper," you deserve some time to make "some" money, unfettered... in the richest and lowest security-rated portions of space in ALL of EVE? Anyone attempting to PvP YOU during this time should only be allowed to do so on YOUR terms?
How convenient.
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Blue Pixie
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Posted - 2007.05.29 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ares Lightfeather
The most pathetic in this thread is the fact that no one actually knows what the change will be like, yet everyone gets all worked up.
The change may actually make it more easy for cov-ops ships than now (due to the expected local channel changes), depending on the precision of the probe (which is the point where no info is known at all).
What expected local changes? What have you heard? This is news to me.
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Blue Pixie
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Posted - 2007.05.29 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 29/05/2007 11:40:15
That's why i originally said it's a logical weapons research to counter the massive use of cloaks.
Just like warfare tech evolves.
It's not a nerf, it's an upgrade to probes.
Now then, we might expect a new kind of cloak tech in the future, after the cloakwar guys see there's a new thing the probewar guys made.
EVERYTHING needs a counter to keep things in some sort of balance.
I agree. So where's my counter to be detected by a freaking chat tab?
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Cadela Fria
Amarr
The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen
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Posted - 2007.05.29 22:49:00 -
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And thus we reach 102! Please remind yourselves to do no flaming - keep things civil, and read the OP for updates and signup count!
Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
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Vito Parabellum
Fivrelde Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.29 22:59:00 -
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I'll sign mainly because cloaks are the small mans weapon against the blobbers.
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When you say "no one's perfect", Chuck Norris takes this as a personal insult.
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Chelone
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Posted - 2007.05.29 23:40:00 -
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Signed (not that it matters.) I think you need about 100 pages to get CCP's attention...
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Jamikest
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.05.29 23:54:00 -
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Edited by: Jamikest on 29/05/2007 23:53:32
Nerfing the cloaks seems silly.
So farmers use em to hide, fix the real problem (farmers) not cloaks. So some guy sits perma-afked watching you? isnt that the point of a cloak?
I can understand a partial nerf- much like ECM. Make all ships other than Covert Ops, Stealth Bombers, and Recons basically unable to cloak.
The idea of not nerfing Covert Ops T2 cloaks isnt going to work, because thats yet another NERF to Stealth Bombers! Not that this is Stealth Bomber thread.. but if you do this CCP, you pretty much are forced into allowing Stealth Bombers to use Covert Ops Cloaks! Oh wait, we have been clamoring for just that for ages....
/signed
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