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CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.10.31 17:10:00 - [1] Tranquility will undergo an extended downtime on Tuesday, 6 November. The start time is 11:00 GMT and the length of the downtime is expected to be 3 hours. During this time, a patch will be applied to Revelations consisting mainly of fixes. Patch Notes will be available for review in the near future. Additions may be made to the patch notes during or after deployment. Changes made will be highlighted in green text. Please note: Training a long learning duration skill ending after the scheduled return to service is recommended. kieron Director of Community Relations, EVE Online EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...

Thrawnfl	Posted - 2007.10.31 17:21:00 - [2] so has Trinity been pushed back to next year or is this a prepatch to get ready for the big patch or is this the big patch?
Garat Mant Minmatar Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.10.31 17:32:00 - [3] Our corp has a pool going on when Rev 3 will be released. I'm guessing as the post says 2.3 not 3.0, this is a fix/enhancement patch. -- CEO, Moons Of Pluto industrial corporation. Recruiting mature players!
F90OEX	Posted - 2007.10.31 17:41:00 - [4]
Cynthia Lynn	Posted - 2007.10.31 17:45:00 - [5] is this in addition or instead of all the other down times lately? :)
Sekretar	Posted - 2007.10.31 17:54:00 - [6] revelations III will come next year :) they still have time to deploy 2.4 to 2.9 :P
Omendor	Posted - 2007.10.31 18:03:00 - [7] Originally by: Sekretar revelations III will come next year :) they still have time to deploy 2.4 to 2.9 :P But maybe it's the promised Revelations III compatibility patch for the Revelations II clients...
Death Mate	Posted - 2007.10.31 18:09:00 - [8] Maybe you all could actually go outside for awhile until they release additional information? :)
Freezehunter Gallente The Knighthawks FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.31 18:10:00 - [9] I think that the next to come out after 2.3 is 3.0... I like killing stuff...
Bloodhands hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.31 18:15:00 - [10] whatcha fix'n? oh, who ya banning? Oh, are you guys putting in the fabled 'big ore' patch that makes all the good ore the size of giant veld roids but still has the same amount of ore inside just to screw with the carebears? cause that would be a fun little patch.
Pork'Chop The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.31 18:18:00 - [11] Edited by: Pork''Chop on 31/10/2007 18:19:54 Originally by: Death Mate Maybe you all could actually go outside for awhile until they release additional information? :) What is this outside you are speaking of.... it dont exist, im sure of it!! Originally by: Bloodhands whatcha fix'n? oh, who ya banning? Oh, are you guys putting in the fabled 'big ore' patch that makes all the good ore the size of giant veld roids but still has the same amount of ore inside just to screw with the carebears? cause that would be a fun little patch. You sir, have a sick sense of humor!! heh
000Hunter000 Gallente Magners Marauders	Posted - 2007.10.31 18:44:00 - [12] Wel i for one would like to have a more clearer statement on the release of Rev3, i can't wait tbh, but please let us know if rev3 is pushed back. CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
AlleyKat Gallente White-Noise Skunk-Works	Posted - 2007.10.31 18:46:00 - [13] please tell me trinity2 shall not be delayed
Caine Azuris Warrior Nation United	Posted - 2007.10.31 18:56:00 - [14] all I have to say is ........ RABLE RABLE RABLE!! where is rev III! Im gonna give you guys the ultimatum one more time, just like I did during the enexpected DT. For every month that TQ doesnt have rev III on it a CCP dev will die!!! WARNING: The views and statements made during this post have no reflection on IRL whatsoever. No CCP employees have been harmed during the making of this post. never said anything about whitewolf though XD Please do not ban me =P Well at least its somthing. My guess and exp from CCP is they are not ready to deploy the gfx update so they are just going to put most of the new content in first, they maybe at the end of the month the gfx updates. Well thanks guys for working so hard and giving us what content is ready.
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.10.31 19:04:00 - [15] CCP won't be giving any news on Rev III until Saturday when Oveur does his Fanfest speech. ---
Quutar Ars ex Discordia	Posted - 2007.10.31 19:06:00 - [16] now we wait for the patch notes... probably just a maintenance fix. Quutar Research Services Selling Amarr Outpost BPCs ME:10

CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.10.31 19:10:00 - [17] EVE: Trinity will be deployed before the end of the year. If someone buys me enough beer at the Fanfest, I might even narrow the deployment date down to a month. The Revelations III deployment will be some time towards the middle of next year. Trinity is the graphics upgrade. RevIII is the Factional Warfare expansion. kieron Director of Community Relations, EVE Online EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...

Bloodhands hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.31 19:11:00 - [18] nah, Oveur will announce on Saturday that Tuesday will be the launch of 20 new ships on tranquility. He will also announce that the fabled 'big ore' patch is coming too. The patch that is like the big head secret in most first person shooters, but with ore!
Nian Banks Minmatar Berserkers of Aesir	Posted - 2007.10.31 19:22:00 - [19] Originally by: CCP kieron EVE: Trinity will be deployed before the end of the year. If someone buys me enough beer at the Fanfest, I might even narrow the deployment date down to a month. The Revelations III deployment will be some time towards the middle of next year. Trinity is the graphics upgrade. RevIII is the Factional Warfare expansion. Can beer be used as a bribe for anything else? I was thinking of sending a small keg of J.Boag & Son "Boag's Draugh" 4.7% alc. But not yet made my mind up, probably a christmas present.
Bloodhands hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.31 19:24:00 - [20] Originally by: Nian Banks Originally by: CCP kieron EVE: Trinity will be deployed before the end of the year. If someone buys me enough beer at the Fanfest, I might even narrow the deployment date down to a month. The Revelations III deployment will be some time towards the middle of next year. Trinity is the graphics upgrade. RevIII is the Factional Warfare expansion. Can beer be used as a bribe for anything else? I was thinking of sending a small keg of J.Boag & Son "Boag's Draugh" 4.7% alc. But not yet made my mind up, probably a christmas present. pervert. no ammount of beer will = sex... i hope
Jin Savage	Posted - 2007.10.31 19:25:00 - [21] Originally by: CCP kieron EVE: Trinity will be deployed before the end of the year. If someone buys me enough beer at the Fanfest, I might even narrow the deployment date down to a month. Well you have a 50/50 shot at guessing the month... December anyone?
Jei'son Bladesmith The Storm Knights	Posted - 2007.10.31 19:28:00 - [22] GIMMEH GIMMEH GIMMEH I ♥ Cake...☼☼☼...12 Seconds
Daram Thakk'ar Minmatar 343rd Mining Division	Posted - 2007.10.31 19:44:00 - [23] I guess that confirms that they have busted yet another launch :p I thought it was "November" you guys claimed earlier :p
Big Pick Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:10:00 - [24] Originally by: Bloodhands Originally by: Nian Banks Originally by: CCP kieron EVE: Trinity will be deployed before the end of the year. If someone buys me enough beer at the Fanfest, I might even narrow the deployment date down to a month. The Revelations III deployment will be some time towards the middle of next year. Trinity is the graphics upgrade. RevIII is the Factional Warfare expansion. Can beer be used as a bribe for anything else? I was thinking of sending a small keg of J.Boag & Son "Boag's Draugh" 4.7% alc. But not yet made my mind up, probably a christmas present. pervert. no ammount of beer will = sex... i hope Hookers it is then. Anybody know any good call girl services in Iceland? ______________________________ It is a symptom of madness that thoughts become uncontrollably disjointed. This can be encouraged.
Cailais Amarr VITOC Fang Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:26:00 - [25] Originally by: CCP kieron EVE: Trinity will be deployed before the end of the year. If someone buys me enough beer at the Fanfest, I might even narrow the deployment date down to a month. The Revelations III deployment will be some time towards the middle of next year. Trinity is the graphics upgrade. RevIII is the Factional Warfare expansion. Middle of 08? So er, when do the new ships, changes to drones, EW etc etc etc come in: Mid 08??! Im confuzed.... C. Piratise Low Sec! or Eve on Hard Mode (idea)
cuncannon Dragons Of Redemption	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:35:00 - [26] Please make JITA a 0.4 System just so we can kill the lag there a bit
Todo Akamura Caldari Royal Enterprise	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:44:00 - [27] Pls wait with revIII few more years, i want to have at least 50M sp till then hehe.
robert free kadian blades	Posted - 2007.10.31 20:53:00 - [28] Originally by: CCP kieron EVE: Trinity will be deployed before the end of the year. If someone buys me enough beer at the Fanfest, I might even narrow the deployment date down to a month. The Revelations III deployment will be some time towards the middle of next year. Trinity is the graphics upgrade. RevIII is the Factional Warfare expansion. does this mean that the carrier nerf and all the other nerfs wont happen untill the the rev 3 patch or is it all coming in on the trinity patch
Hamfast Gallente	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:04:00 - [29] Originally by: CCP kieron EVE: Trinity will be deployed before the end of the year. If someone buys me enough beer at the Fanfest, I might even narrow the deployment date down to a month. The Revelations III deployment will be some time towards the middle of next year. Trinity is the graphics upgrade. RevIII is the Factional Warfare expansion. How much beer is enough to pick Noremember or Dismember? Or is it a Fiscal year, that ends next Stepover... --------*****-------- It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face.
Caiman Graystock The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:16:00 - [30] Originally by: CCP kieron EVE: Trinity will be deployed before the end of the year. If someone buys me enough beer at the Fanfest, I might even narrow the deployment date down to a month. The Revelations III deployment will be some time towards the middle of next year. Trinity is the graphics upgrade. RevIII is the Factional Warfare expansion. WTF?
Chruker	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:27:00 - [31] Originally by: Caiman Graystock Originally by: CCP kieron EVE: Trinity will be deployed before the end of the year. If someone buys me enough beer at the Fanfest, I might even narrow the deployment date down to a month. The Revelations III deployment will be some time towards the middle of next year. Trinity is the graphics upgrade. RevIII is the Factional Warfare expansion. WTF? Apparently somebody randomized the spreadsheet where Kieron has his release names. ----- http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online ----- Top wishes: - No daily downtime - Faster training on sisi - Speedup IGB table rendering
sinqlaison	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:33:00 - [32] Originally by: cuncannon Please make JITA a 0.4 System just so we can kill the lag there a bit How can you say that - my friend - you would kill my capital business!
Dr Grot Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:55:00 - [33] Edited by: Dr Grot on 31/10/2007 21:56:57 nvm
Elmicker Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.31 22:18:00 - [34] Originally by: CCP kieron EVE: Trinity will be deployed before the end of the year. If someone buys me enough beer at the Fanfest, I might even narrow the deployment date down to a month. The Revelations III deployment will be some time towards the middle of next year. Trinity is the graphics upgrade. RevIII is the Factional Warfare expansion. Well, that's totally different from everything that's been said so far
Girly'girl Minmatar Nuclear Halo Insurgency	Posted - 2007.10.31 22:24:00 - [35] I agree that post doesn't make any sense. Kieron could you confirm what you posted? It's almost 100% opposite to everything that's been said about the upgrades so far. Trinity 2 (the graphics engine) was supposed to be one update with many others that are included in Rev3. Other stuff in Rev3 being T2 battleships, new mission content, carrier changes etc etc. According to to the blogs factional warfare was delayed and not going to be part of the Rev expansions at all, something we'll see next year in a different expansion altogether. Now you're saying that all we're gonna get is the graphics upgrade and everything else in Rev3 is delayed 6 months or something? It was all supposed to come out in November. Clarify please.
Cercia	Posted - 2007.10.31 22:26:00 - [36] I don't think he was saying you are not getting the new ships in the near future, it's just that the factional warfare portion will be next summer.
Bruce McMoose	Posted - 2007.10.31 22:30:00 - [37] Originally by: Cercia I don't think he was saying you are not getting the new ships in the near future, it's just that the factional warfare portion will be next summer. Exactly! Trinity is revelations 2.5... 2-3 expansion packs in 1 year is quite enough, if anything above and beyond the call of duty, i take my hat off to you. (Not sure how many ex-packs since i only started replaying eve 6 months ago.)
ERock Caldas No Trademark	Posted - 2007.10.31 22:34:00 - [38] Edited by: ERock Caldas on 31/10/2007 22:35:45 Originally by: CCP kieron EVE: Trinity will be deployed before the end of the year. Trinity is the graphics upgrade. I really think some dev clarification could help here. Hopefully what we're getting before the end of this year is more than just the new graphics engine.
Girly'girl Minmatar Nuclear Halo Insurgency	Posted - 2007.10.31 22:37:00 - [39] It's the first time in a long while that the Rev3 upgrade has been associated in any way with Factional warfare. It started that way, but definitely changed. Rev3 has been introduced as the expansion that will deliver Trinity 2 and the new content and balance changes etc, not Factional warfare. This is a total 180 as Rev3 wasn't supposed to have anything to do with Factional warfare anymore. That's another expansion, not Rev3. But it's pointless to go over it any further, the developers know better. And they need to make it crystal clear this time, it's getting very confusing.
Katana Seiko Made in Germany	Posted - 2007.10.31 22:38:00 - [40] So, we'll have update 2.3 on november 6th, an other update called 2.4 on november 20th to have last compatibility and somewhere around christmas we'll get trinity... will we get some nice christmas presents this year? I was hoping for new snowball launchers... Does CCP celebrate easter (easter egg bomb) or halloween (pumpkingun)? -- The future begins now - in EVE we live it, in real life we create it! Your sig is too big. Please keep it under 400x120 and less than 24000 byte. -the sexiest moderator ([email protected])
Caiman Graystock The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.10.31 22:41:00 - [41] can I have some of what kieron has been smoking?
DOC PIC	Posted - 2007.10.31 22:53:00 - [42] Edited by: DOC PIC on 31/10/2007 22:53:33 People patch due by the end of year is the graphics update with new ships.. Rev 3 is next big step as in factonal warfare. Tuesdays patch is to get ready for graphics patch.
Magunus The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.31 22:55:00 - [43] Originally by: CCP kieron EVE: Trinity will be deployed before the end of the year. If someone buys me enough beer at the Fanfest, I might even narrow the deployment date down to a month. The Revelations III deployment will be some time towards the middle of next year. Trinity is the graphics upgrade. RevIII is the Factional Warfare expansion. Ah... given the choices, I'm betting December. You're scaring people, though (myself, in particular). No mention of new content in the Trinity patch? None of the promised new ships? --- In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe'
Singularity Seraphim	Posted - 2007.10.31 23:02:00 - [44] Gah, all you people need to take chill pills, there is no new information here, this is in line with what we already knew. 1. The upcoming major patch before the end of this year is named Eve: Trinity, and has all the goodies we're currently drooling over like new T2 ships, new graphics etc. 2. Faction warfare is slated for Revelations 3 next year, as it has been ever since it slipped from Revelations 2. The only confusion here is that when they created the name "Trinity" they weren't specifying a new branch and Revelations is still active, so we get Rev I -> Rev II -> Rev II/Trinity -> Rev III/Trinity.
Girly'girl Minmatar Nuclear Halo Insurgency	Posted - 2007.10.31 23:03:00 - [45] Just look at this blog post and tell me how much sense this new post makes compared to that. Not much. http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=501
Helison Gallente Times of Ancar Pure.	Posted - 2007.10.31 23:04:00 - [46] Originally by: ERock Caldas Edited by: ERock Caldas on 31/10/2007 22:35:45 Originally by: CCP kieron EVE: Trinity will be deployed before the end of the year. Trinity is the graphics upgrade. I really think some dev clarification could help here. Hopefully what we're getting before the end of this year is more than just the new graphics engine. All the stuff like new T2 ships, Kill Mails 1.5, UI revamp etc. should be deployed in EVE: Trinity, this year. Rev3 is probably the next big patch with factional warfare, but it seems like the title for this patch isn¦t set in stone yet. You can also check here for a bit more info, the medium block should be in Eve: Trinity: http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/indevelopment.asp
Fenren	Posted - 2007.10.31 23:05:00 - [47] this expansion was renamed to trinity a while back... and the engine is called Trinity v2. all stuff (except carrier nerf, they need more time on that one) that is commony asociated with rev3 is in trinity.
Hoshi Blackguard Brigade Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.31 23:06:00 - [48] I don't understand you people, Kieron is saying exactly the same thing he has for at least a month. Trinity is the expansion coming soon with the graphics upgrade, black ops, heavy dictors etc. Rev III is the faction warfare expansion that have been delayed a until later. Nothing new here. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
Caiman Graystock The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.10.31 23:08:00 - [49] Originally by: Hoshi I don't understand you people, Kieron is saying exactly the same thing he has for at least a month. Trinity is the expansion coming soon with the graphics upgrade, black ops, heavy dictors etc. Rev III is the faction warfare expansion that have been delayed a until later. Nothing new here. Last week; Originally by: CCP Explorer EVE Online: Revelations III (codename "Kali 3") was renamed to EVE Online: Trinity because we had to postpone factional warfare due to lack of time and resources. So Trinity is Revelations III (not including FW). It's not been decided what the expansion containing factional warfare will be called nor if and when it will be released. Trinity (the expansion) contains Trinity v2 (the graphics engine; v2 not II).
Blind Man Angel Deep Corporation	Posted - 2007.10.31 23:09:00 - [50] i thought it was planned for November release
Girly'girl Minmatar Nuclear Halo Insurgency	Posted - 2007.10.31 23:09:00 - [51] Edited by: Girly''girl on 31/10/2007 23:13:53 I'm glad if it's just a misunderstanding regarding the names of different updates. That's a very minor issue obviously. :) The post by explorer clarifies a lot, missed that before for some reason. So it was basically just a misunderstanding with the names. That basically means there might not be Rev3 at all, the expansion with factional warfare might be something else entirely, as I understood from the beginning. Moving on..
Thrawnfl	Posted - 2007.10.31 23:12:00 - [52] ya, I can bet that November is no longer an option for release

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2007.10.31 23:42:00 - [53] Edited by: CCP Explorer on 31/10/2007 23:45:13 This update, Revelations 2.3, contains formal support for Mac OS X and Linux. It also includes a few fixes for all platforms. Stay tuned for the release notes. The next expansion, EVE Online: Revelations III (codename "Kali 3"), was renamed to EVE Online: Trinity because we had to postpone factional warfare due to lack of time and resources. So Trinity is Revelations III, not including factional warfare, but with drone improvements, heat improvements, EVE Voice improvements, tons of bug fixes, a new graphics engine and new art content. Please note that Trinity (the expansion) contains Trinity v2 (the graphics engine; v2 not II). This renaming was never going to cause any problems... (It's not been decided what the expansion containing factional warfare will be called. The codename is currently "Kali 4", it might be called Revelations III, Revelations IV or something completely different.) Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Miang Hawwa	Posted - 2007.10.31 23:47:00 - [54] What do you mean by "factional warfare"? New races/factions? Is the Jove Empire involved? You said that Trinity v2 would come out on November. Should we expect delays then?
Okaii Kiki's Delivery Service	Posted - 2007.10.31 23:51:00 - [55] Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 31/10/2007 23:47:29 This update, Revelations 2.3, contains formal support for Mac OS X and Linux. It also includes a few fixes for all platforms. Stay tuned for the release notes. Hell yeah!
Atsuko Ratu Caldari VSP Corp.	Posted - 2007.10.31 23:56:00 - [56] Originally by: Miang Hawwa What do you mean by "factional warfare"? New races/factions? Is the Jove Empire involved? You said that Trinity v2 would come out on November. Should we expect delays then? Trinity v2 is the new engine in Trinity, which is coming out in either November or Decenmber. No one has claimed that it will not be in November (and thus delayed a month), but it's obviously 50/50 at this point. Patch coming out this year will have all the new ships, drone changes, and everything else. Not the carrier nerf tho, enough people complained about something that really needed to be changed anyway I don't understand why everyone was so confused, this has all been said before.
Pesadel0 Ordem dos Templarios Pax Atlantis	Posted - 2007.11.01 00:02:00 - [57] Originally by: Blind Man i thought it was planned for November release Yeah me too :\|
Altaree Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium	Posted - 2007.11.01 00:15:00 - [58] Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 31/10/2007 23:47:29 This update, Revelations 2.3, contains formal support for Mac OS X and Linux. It also includes a few fixes for all platforms. Stay tuned for the release notes. Why do you even bother to tell us about this before the release notes are ready. You just unleashed the forum trolls on yourself.
Mattadore	Posted - 2007.11.01 00:23:00 - [59] Quote: By Miang Hawwa: What do you mean by "factional warfare"? New races/factions? Is the Jove Empire involved? You said that Trinity v2 would come out on November. Should we expect delays then? dude, your face...
Jason Conrad	Posted - 2007.11.01 00:26:00 - [60] I'm just hoping this means my beloved Myrmidon won't get nerfed yet this month.
Amastat	Posted - 2007.11.01 00:35:00 - [61] CCP kieron: "Trinity will be deployed before the end of the year. If someone buys me enough beer at the Fanfest, I might even narrow the deployment date down to a month." You heard him! Everyone get your pocketbook and paypal accounts ready - We have to get 5 truckloads of beer ready :)
dimitri DeSade	Posted - 2007.11.01 01:45:00 - [62] Did everyone read what the man said? Linux and OSX support! Good Job CCP! I'll start preparing my linux box!
Jillien Rutgers Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.11.01 02:09:00 - [63] Please please please be adding a 25m3 drone bay to the Zealot and move the useless 5th high to a mid in this patch.
Carsidava Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 02:18:00 - [64] Edited by: Carsidava on 01/11/2007 02:18:20 So let me get this straight: Revelations 3 has the codename Kali 3 but is now called Trinity. Trinity v2 is the graphics engine. Factional warfare is coming in Kali 4, which could be called Revelations 3, which currently has the codename Kali 3 but is now called Trinity. CCP, whoever comes up with your naming system needs to lay off the drugs. And none of these are coming in the Revelations 2.3 patch, correct?
Zeminy Minmatar The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.11.01 02:32:00 - [65] Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 31/10/2007 23:47:29 This update, Revelations 2.3, contains formal support for Mac OS X and Linux. It also includes a few fixes for all platforms. Stay tuned for the release notes. What does formal support mean ... are there openGL support built in or do we have to use emulation to use the client on linux like most people are doing right now, the only difference being CCP will help sort out problems in this emulation process....? Mmmm....
DaveW Caldari South Park Development	Posted - 2007.11.01 02:51:00 - [66] My GOD! Why does everything in EVE have to have five fracking NAMES..!!!? --------------------------------------------------- "If you can't stand the heat..., stay out of the Kitchen."
Hard Rail	Posted - 2007.11.01 03:09:00 - [67] Basically: All the goodies in the dev blogs = before end of year Factional Warfare = TBD A happy hard rail... T-Minus 60 days
Lei Airaken	Posted - 2007.11.01 03:52:00 - [68] Edited by: Lei Airaken on 01/11/2007 03:53:26 Just put up the ******* patch notes already you jackasses. I mean seriously, are you guys using us to start threadnaughts for some reason? Patch notes + announcement = smart Announcement - patch notes = obnoxious. Very simple math.
Igor Epocci	Posted - 2007.11.01 05:01:00 - [69] Originally by: Lei Airaken Edited by: Lei Airaken on 01/11/2007 03:53:26 Just put up the ******* patch notes already you jackasses. I mean seriously, are you guys using us to start threadnaughts for some reason? Patch notes + announcement = smart Announcement - patch notes = obnoxious. Very simple math. You don't get out much, do you? We'll get the patch when we get it, with whatever they've decided to include in it. No amount of stupidity is going to change it. I know your mom probably told you this when you were little, but I'll say it again: Unless you have something nice to to say, shut your mouth. Don't make me swat your butt and stand you in the corner.
Josua Corel Gallente Far Edge Outcasts	Posted - 2007.11.01 05:14:00 - [70] Are cosmic anomalies and deadspace plexes going to be seperated on the multispec scans this patch? plz.plz.plz. say yes, It is the only bad part of exploration for me atm.
Cagot Gallente Arcanus	Posted - 2007.11.01 05:17:00 - [71] Originally by: Jason Conrad I'm just hoping this means my beloved Myrmidon won't get nerfed yet this month. That would be nice. However, I think it's likely that the removal of shield healing on drone scoop, implementation of drone bandwidth throttling on all ships, implementing a shiny new drone interface, and specifically nerfing the Eos, Myrmidon and Ishkur drone bays are all part of what he means by "drone improvements." I hope it's just the shiny new drone interface, though.
Galahad Cardarn	Posted - 2007.11.01 06:51:00 - [72] Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 31/10/2007 23:47:29 This update, Revelations 2.3, contains formal support for Mac OS X and Linux. OMG - No more running cedega or other crap, finally a good reason to skip the bloated piece of crap that windows is - yeahaa. Thats great news :)
Galahad Cardarn	Posted - 2007.11.01 06:53:00 - [73] Originally by: Zeminy Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 31/10/2007 23:47:29 This update, Revelations 2.3, contains formal support for Mac OS X and Linux. It also includes a few fixes for all platforms. Stay tuned for the release notes. What does formal support mean ... are there openGL support built in or do we have to use emulation to use the client on linux like most people are doing right now, the only difference being CCP will help sort out problems in this emulation process....? Mmmm.... Don't you think it means that they have created a binary for MacOS and one for linux. Since most of the EVE client is already created in python, it makes sense to do so. Lets hope its a native client for both those OS'es :)
Carniflex Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.11.01 07:52:00 - [74] Originally by: Galahad Cardarn Don't you think it means that they have created a binary for MacOS and one for linux. Since most of the EVE client is already created in python, it makes sense to do so. Lets hope its a native client for both those OS'es :) As far as I'm aware it's the same client just has supported wrapper around it.
Lix Titrax Association Of United Bastards	Posted - 2007.11.01 08:01:00 - [75] Yeah, the Linux and MacOS versions are in closed-Beta right now and are using a Cedega/Cider wrapper to make it work in Linux/Mac. I've been playing under Ubuntu via Wine now for several months and it is so nice to be Windows-free. I am looking forward to the Linux client though, I want my mini-map back.
Ancy Denaries Caldari Isseras Manufacture	Posted - 2007.11.01 08:33:00 - [76] I've been running dual EVE clients under Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn and now Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon for quite a while. Works flawlessly, and sometimes even performs better than my Windows clients did (no more BSOD \o/ ). I'm interested in this wrapper client...I just hope it performs better than Cedega does. If not...well, I'll just stay in Cedega :D Although the lack of SM3 goodies in Trinity expansion might convince me to dust of my XP partition and play EVE in windows again until Transgaming manages to get Cedega to support SM3.

CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.11.01 09:10:00 - [77] Originally by: Lei Airaken Patch notes + announcement = smart Announcement - patch notes = obnoxious. Very simple math. The intention behind announcing the patch without the patch notes is to ensure the community is given advance notice. The patch notes should be published before the close of business Friday night. kieron Director of Community Relations, EVE Online EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...


CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.11.01 09:14:00 - [78] Originally by: Josua Corel Are cosmic anomalies and deadspace plexes going to be seperated on the multispec scans this patch? No, the changes mentioned in the exploration Dev Blog will be part of the Trinity release. Tuesday's patch is primarily focused on the additional OS support and resolving some minor issues. kieron Director of Community Relations, EVE Online EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...

Hoshi Blackguard Brigade Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.01 09:19:00 - [79] Originally by: Caiman Graystock Originally by: Hoshi I don't understand you people, Kieron is saying exactly the same thing he has for at least a month. Trinity is the expansion coming soon with the graphics upgrade, black ops, heavy dictors etc. Rev III is the faction warfare expansion that have been delayed a until later. Nothing new here. Last week; Originally by: CCP Explorer EVE Online: Revelations III (codename "Kali 3") was renamed to EVE Online: Trinity because we had to postpone factional warfare due to lack of time and resources. So Trinity is Revelations III (not including FW). It's not been decided what the expansion containing factional warfare will be called nor if and when it will be released. Trinity (the expansion) contains Trinity v2 (the graphics engine; v2 not II). And that is what they are saying now too, small change in names but none in content. So I ask again, what's with you people? ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
Futureface01 Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.11.01 09:21:00 - [80] I guess just for verifications sake: CCP Fendahl referred to all the new ships as being in Trinity (Link here). So new ships are indeed coming "this" year right? State of the Golem Oct 25, 2007
Sabahl Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.01 09:36:00 - [81] Is the client finally getting a rename or are we still on "The Road To Kali"? :) Poor bard, I must give you a cookie!- Tirg
Thaneal Swiftbird	Posted - 2007.11.01 09:56:00 - [82] Originally by: CCP kieron Tuesday's patch is primarily focused on the additional OS support and resolving some minor issues. Hooray! Finally some love for teh linux users! Thank you, thank you, thank you. May I humbly request you to build a Ubuntu Repository (7.10), with the Eve-client and stuff in it? And while you are at it... why not change the servers to a decent OS as well? Well, keep the good news up, atm I am thinking of ways to send a keg of ye good ole austrian beer to iceland.
Sekretar	Posted - 2007.11.01 10:51:00 - [83] Originally by: Sabahl Is the client finally getting a rename or are we still on "The Road To Kali"? :) more likley eve new name is "need for speed", wait till you get cars, then you can race in the stations, race on planets is unavailable, as its soonTM
raven415 Caldari FireStar Inc	Posted - 2007.11.01 11:07:00 - [84] as long as it fixes more bugs then it causes I'm happy
Coltane ACCORD Industries	Posted - 2007.11.01 11:07:00 - [85] Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 31/10/2007 23:47:29 This update, Revelations 2.3, contains formal support for Mac OS X and Linux. It also includes a few fixes for all platforms. Stay tuned for the release notes. Now thats NICE! I do not need Windows anymore!!!
Kolloth Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 11:12:00 - [86] Originally by: Thaneal Swiftbird Hooray! Finally some love for teh linux users! Thank you, thank you, thank you. Its about the only lovin' an 'nix user is likely to get.
Inservio Letum DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 11:16:00 - [87] EVE is spaceships. Adding Mario Kart does nothing but take stationhugging to a new level. I can only imagine ambulation will render the simple and intuitive drag&drop market & fittings system we have now, complicated and tedious, turning it into a Hero's Quest "you must move closer to that merchant to talk" nightmare. Just like that infinizoom nuked the simple effective starmap we had before and turned it into a laggy, unreadable, innavigable and thus useless starry night screensaver, ambulation will invariably kill a functional part of EVE. EVE != GuildWars ffs.
Charles BronZon	Posted - 2007.11.01 11:56:00 - [88] Edited by: Charles BronZon on 01/11/2007 11:56:34 Originally by: dimitri DeSade Did everyone read what the man said? Linux and OSX support! Good Job CCP! I'll start preparing my linux box! oh yeah, i did! i've waited so long... first the et:qw client is released and now i might be able to stop using wine to play eve, couldn't be any happier!
Sun Ra Grumpy Old Farts Gruntfuttocks	Posted - 2007.11.01 12:23:00 - [89] So wait, the new t2 ships arent coming with this patch??
NebulaSurfer Amarr White Star Corporation	Posted - 2007.11.01 12:33:00 - [90] Should i be expecting another kick in the b*lls for amarr in the "bug fixes"?
Goey Goober	Posted - 2007.11.01 13:04:00 - [91] Originally by: CCP kieron The patch notes should be published before the close of business Friday night. Kieron, This is the only thing you needed to add to your post. Otherwise people would have spent all Thursday wondering where the heck the patch notes were and getting upset. (or at least mildly annoyed)
Ishina Fel Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.11.01 13:34:00 - [92] If you guys paid any attention to the 4th Alliance Tournament broadcasts, you would know that the Trinity expansion with the new ships is coming November 28th... thus said Oveur, slightly inebriated. Of course, as always, assume that this is a "planned" date. Buff room for large link addresses in sigs plz :(
haniblecter	Posted - 2007.11.01 13:35:00 - [93] Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Edited by: Atsuko Ratu on 31/10/2007 23:56:39 Originally by: Miang Hawwa What do you mean by "factional warfare"? New races/factions? Is the Jove Empire involved? You said that Trinity v2 would come out on November. Should we expect delays then? Trinity v2 is the new engine in Trinity, which is coming out in either November or December. No one has claimed that it will not be released in November (and thus delayed a month), but it's obviously 50/50 at this point. Patch (Trinity) coming out this year will have all the new ships, drone changes, and everything else. Not the carrier nerf tho, enough people complained about something that really needed to be changed anyway I don't understand why everyone was so confused, this has all been said before. They be the dull knives in the drawer.
Kronos	Posted - 2007.11.01 14:32:00 - [94] Updates & patches, all quite exicting. But I wonder how you are getting on with the possible 'Walking on Stations' update ? Is the new graphics engine being designed for this purpose or was it a genral upgrade that was planned alongtime ago. Just thinking if walking on stations did eventually get to fighting on stations for parts of missions and for team work, this would make very good development for the game and possibly boost the ammount of new players joining EVE. (Note: Not interested in PvP Combat ATM). Keep up the good work CCP EVE rules.
HydroSan GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.01 14:33:00 - [95] Why are people getting upset over the name differences? You've got Trinity 2.0, which is the graphics engine with the new DX9 improvements and new models and stuff like that. The expansion coming out soon has been renamed from "Kali 3" or "Rev III" to Trinity. The next expansion after Trinity will probably be named something other than Trinity II and will have stuff like factional warfare and T2 Titans.
Twobits PieCake	Posted - 2007.11.01 14:38:00 - [96] Edited by: Twobits PieCake on 01/11/2007 14:40:43 I'm da patch note in da OP! edit: green text.
Garat Mant Minmatar Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.11.01 16:13:00 - [97] Linux is being added! THANK YOU!! -G -- CEO, Moons Of Pluto industrial corporation. Recruiting mature players!
Garat Mant Minmatar Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.11.01 16:19:00 - [98] Originally by: Garat Mant Linux support is being added! One thing occurs to me: If you're using windows BITS to download patches, how will those patch downloads work on Linux/Mac? -G -- CEO, Moons Of Pluto industrial corporation. Recruiting mature players!
Miriyana Gallente Northern Intelligence Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.11.01 16:21:00 - [99] Originally by: Garat Mant Originally by: Garat Mant Linux support is being added! One thing occurs to me: If you're using windows BITS to download patches, how will those patch downloads work on Linux/Mac? -G you dont have to use BITS. Also this may be the perfect excuse for me to make the switch to l00nux - - - - - - Change just leads to more problems Originally by: CCP Wrangler Oh please no, I've had enough with real world taxes, and dealing with the tax agency. No more taxes!!
Garat Mant Minmatar Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.11.01 16:26:00 - [100] Originally by: Miriyana Also this may be the perfect excuse for me to make the switch to l00nux Indeed. Now I gotta see if EFT and EVEMon will work under ubuntu... -G -- CEO, Moons Of Pluto industrial corporation. Recruiting mature players!
Cyan Nuevo Dudes In Crazy Killing Ships	Posted - 2007.11.01 18:03:00 - [101] Originally by: Garat Mant Originally by: Garat Mant Linux support is being added! One thing occurs to me: If you're using windows BITS to download patches, how will those patch downloads work on Linux/Mac? -G They're just using BITS for the extra graphic content, which won't happen on Linux due to lack of support on Cedega's part. So... no BITS necessary! --- Proud Amarr pilot.
Echrei	Posted - 2007.11.01 18:55:00 - [102] Originally by: Lix Titrax Yeah, the Linux and MacOS versions are in closed-Beta right now and are using a Cedega/Cider wrapper to make it work in Linux/Mac. But I need EVE that will run without Cider so I can run it on my old PPC Macs. I don't have an intel Mac...
VLAD DRACU Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:01:00 - [103] Originally by: Carsidava Edited by: Carsidava on 01/11/2007 02:18:20 So let me get this straight: Revelations 3 has the codename Kali 3 but is now called Trinity. Trinity v2 is the graphics engine. Factional warfare is coming in Kali 4, which could be called Revelations 3, which currently has the codename Kali 3 but is now called Trinity. CCP, whoever comes up with your naming system needs to lay off the drugs. And none of these are coming in the Revelations 2.3 patch, correct? Actually the Trinity III expansion that is so shiny is expected to be deployed as Kali 3 indeed. Nevertheless this patch, in order not to be confused with the graphics engine upgrade, has been renamed to Trinity II - the factional warfare patch. And the long awaited Revelation 3 will be deployed under the name Trinity v2 and that will bring along the carrier nerf. And to make things crystal clear, Eve: Trinity has been renamed to Revelations patch 2.3 whose notes are due soon. having said that I think all other dev posts that seemed contradictory are reconciled now.
Dors Venabily	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:36:00 - [104] Originally by: Lei Airaken Edited by: Lei Airaken on 01/11/2007 03:53:26 Just put up the ******* patch notes already you jackasses. I mean seriously, are you guys using us to start threadnaughts for some reason? Patch notes + announcement = smart Announcement - patch notes = obnoxious. Very simple math. ehh too much sugar perhaps :D
Dors Venabily	Posted - 2007.11.01 21:39:00 - [105] Originally by: Echrei Originally by: Lix Titrax Yeah, the Linux and MacOS versions are in closed-Beta right now and are using a Cedega/Cider wrapper to make it work in Linux/Mac. But I need EVE that will run without Cider so I can run it on my old PPC Macs. I don't have an intel Mac... get new mac apple killed Power so why in the world would they be writing client for discontinued computer
Bodhisattvas Mentally Unstable Enterprises	Posted - 2007.11.02 05:10:00 - [106] Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 31/10/2007 23:47:29 This update, Revelations 2.3, contains formal support for Mac OS X and Linux. It also includes a few fixes for all platforms. Stay tuned for the release notes. The next expansion, EVE Online: Revelations III (codename "Kali 3"), was renamed to EVE Online: Trinity because we had to postpone factional warfare due to lack of time and resources. So Trinity is Revelations III, not including factional warfare, but with drone improvements, heat improvements, EVE Voice improvements, tons of bug fixes, a new graphics engine and new art content. Please note that Trinity (the expansion) contains Trinity v2 (the graphics engine; v2 not II). This renaming was never going to cause any problems... (It's not been decided what the expansion containing factional warfare will be called. The codename is currently "Kali 4", it might be called Revelations III, Revelations IV or something completely different.) "but with drone improvements" see now you be pressing buttons now. Do you people even take any notice of the forums and the multiple threads relating to the drone NERFS not improvements. Just because this kind of behaviour works for most governments doesn't mean ccp should indulge in the "growing mushrooms" analogy. You screw amarr recons, in the process of screwing gallente...lock stock and barrel Dictors are in the process of getting screwed etc etc the list does really go on and on. Are you really so sick of people paying your wages thru monthly subscription, that you feel justified in ****ing them off so much as to the extent of leaving the game ?
Siriyana Astrum Contract Services Group	Posted - 2007.11.02 05:18:00 - [107] Did somebody say OS X support? Seriously? I love you. I really really love you. ----- CEO, Astrum Contract Services Group
Jinx Jethro Anything Not Nailed Down	Posted - 2007.11.02 07:55:00 - [108] I must've missed a whole lot of bloc's while I was gone... 'cause I was sure Factional Warfare was coming at least soonish. Not somewhere mid-2008 due to Quote: lack of time and resources I've been waiting for this a long long time, been promised again and again. And it's still not there. There's only a lack of time and resources because apparently it isn't a priority for you guys. Well, guess it's back into cryo again when sub's up. This is very disappointing...
Aeon Jonas Caldari The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.11.02 10:33:00 - [109] Edited by: Aeon Jonas on 02/11/2007 10:33:20 Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 31/10/2007 23:47:29 This update, Revelations 2.3, contains formal support for Mac OS X and Linux. It also includes a few fixes for all platforms. Stay tuned for the release notes. The next expansion, EVE Online: Revelations III (codename "Kali 3"), was renamed to EVE Online: Trinity because we had to postpone factional warfare due to lack of time and resources. So Trinity is Revelations III, not including factional warfare, but with drone improvements, heat improvements, EVE Voice improvements, tons of bug fixes, a new graphics engine and new art content. Please note that Trinity (the expansion) contains Trinity v2 (the graphics engine; v2 not II). This renaming was never going to cause any problems... (It's not been decided what the expansion containing factional warfare will be called. The codename is currently "Kali 4", it might be called Revelations III, Revelations IV or something completely different.) DEAD important question IMO. Will you support OS X 10.5 Leopard? That is sort of key tbh since over 2 million copies where sold in the first weekend you can sort of expect a high uptake in the EVE community of those who run OS X. EDIT: Universal Code or not there are still hickups.

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2007.11.02 10:41:00 - [110] Originally by: Bodhisattvas "but with drone improvements" see now you be pressing buttons now. Do you people even take any notice of the forums and the multiple threads relating to the drone NERFS not improvements. We haven't nerfed drones, at least not that I'm aware of. Yes, there were changes to carriers, which I assume is what you're referring to, and those forum threads were read and taken seriously. What I was referring to was the drone UI improvements we made, the new commands, settings and shortcuts, increasing the scoop range and all the bugs in drone behaviour we fixed. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Helison Gallente Times of Ancar Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.02 11:34:00 - [111] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Bodhisattvas "but with drone improvements" see now you be pressing buttons now. Do you people even take any notice of the forums and the multiple threads relating to the drone NERFS not improvements. We haven't nerfed drones, at least not that I'm aware of. Yes, there were changes to carriers, which I assume is what you're referring to, and those forum threads were read and taken seriously. Well, I¦m sure it¦s about the nerf of the ishkur, myrmidon and eos.
TrulyKosh Solo for UNCLE Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.02 11:47:00 - [112] Originally by: DaveW My GOD! Why does everything in EVE have to have five fracking NAMES..!!!? It's like a Thesaurus, e.g. 1) Amarr Alternatives: a) useless b) underpowered c) helpless d) soon-in-a-pod e) why primary? Knowing all 5 names does not only give you the understanding of the term itself, but also an overview of the concept behind it. I only invest in businesses that even a fool can run. Because some day a fool will. (Warren Buffett)
Hamfast Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.02 13:55:00 - [113] Originally by: CCP kieron Originally by: Josua Corel Are cosmic anomalies and deadspace plexes going to be seperated on the multispec scans this patch? No, the changes mentioned in the exploration Dev Blog will be part of the Trinity release. Tuesday's patch is primarily focused on the additional OS support and resolving some minor issues. Is Channace a minor issue? or is it Chamnace thats the minor issue... I should have got a screen shot of it, system name in the upper corner said Chamnace, all the stations and other objects have Channace... --------*****-------- It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face.
jhvmc	Posted - 2007.11.02 14:33:00 - [114] Edited by: jhvmc on 02/11/2007 14:35:19 can u take the bonus to nos ( that doesnt work anymore ) off amarr recons? and give them a bonus that does work! as its just a glorified drone boat after the nerf ps stop nerfing amarr! edit . main is dssouleater keeps this toon posting i dunno why.
Cosmo Raata Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.02 15:19:00 - [115] Patch Notes coming anytime soon??? Don't Ban me for my Love of Amarr!
Xaviar Rigo Pator Tech Corp	Posted - 2007.11.02 15:35:00 - [116] Mac support.... HUG Did I mention I am a Mac owner? Seriously CCP, thanks :)
Lurtz Caldari Gunrunners and Gamblers	Posted - 2007.11.02 15:42:00 - [117] Today is Friday 02-November, do you know where your patch notes are?
Stoehovve Scheo Solestra Mining Corporation	Posted - 2007.11.02 15:49:00 - [118] if I recall, they said end of day Friday, which prob means end of day GMT, so I would not expect to see any notes before then, and tbh when they are up, they are up imo.
Bloodhands hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:48:00 - [119] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Bodhisattvas "but with drone improvements" see now you be pressing buttons now. Do you people even take any notice of the forums and the multiple threads relating to the drone NERFS not improvements. We haven't nerfed drones, at least not that I'm aware of. Yes, there were changes to carriers, which I assume is what you're referring to, and those forum threads were read and taken seriously. What I was referring to was the drone UI improvements we made, the new commands, settings and shortcuts, increasing the scoop range and all the bugs in drone behaviour we fixed. Hes referring to the nerf, not the change. The drone frequency or whatever its called so that a frig cant control 5 large drones (although, its really fun to do level 1 missions that way.) On a side note, all is a bad word in programing. just about all, or most are much better since there is always a possibility that the fix of something rebroke something that was thought to be fixed before. Can you put something in for an april 1st patch to have the size of all the asteroids in space inverted? Having arkonor the size of veld would be perfect. Come on, you know you want to release that fabled 'big ore' patch... i know its out there... ive heard rumors about it.
Occara	Posted - 2007.11.02 18:22:00 - [120] Originally by: Bloodhands Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Bodhisattvas "but with drone improvements" see now you be pressing buttons now. Do you people even take any notice of the forums and the multiple threads relating to the drone NERFS not improvements. We haven't nerfed drones, at least not that I'm aware of. Yes, there were changes to carriers, which I assume is what you're referring to, and those forum threads were read and taken seriously. What I was referring to was the drone UI improvements we made, the new commands, settings and shortcuts, increasing the scoop range and all the bugs in drone behaviour we fixed. Hes referring to the nerf, not the change. The drone frequency or whatever its called so that a frig cant control 5 large drones (although, its really fun to do level 1 missions that way.) On a side note, all is a bad word in programing. just about all, or most are much better since there is always a possibility that the fix of something rebroke something that was thought to be fixed before. Can you put something in for an april 1st patch to have the size of all the asteroids in space inverted? Having arkonor the size of veld would be perfect. Come on, you know you want to release that fabled 'big ore' patch... i know its out there... ive heard rumors about it. learn to english! where does that say they fixed all drone bugs? all it says is that he is talking about all the drone bugs they fixed. as in the entirety of the subset of drone bugs that are the ones that they have fixed.
Altaree Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium	Posted - 2007.11.02 18:25:00 - [121] Originally by: CCP kieron The patch notes should be published before the close of business Friday night. Kieron, hmmm... When is COB for iceland? It is now 6:30PM GMT.......
Reptzo	Posted - 2007.11.02 18:31:00 - [122] Edited by: Reptzo on 02/11/2007 18:31:20 Originally by: Altaree Originally by: CCP kieron The patch notes should be published before the close of business Friday night. Kieron, hmmm... When is COB for iceland? It is now 6:30PM GMT....... COB Friday means Tuesday morning when they delay the patch.
Magunus The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.02 19:19:00 - [123] Edited by: Magunus on 02/11/2007 19:22:20 nm, op got updated --- In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe'

CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.11.02 19:23:00 - [124] Patch Notes are now available for review. There will be additional items added to the patch notes over the weekend and as some announcements are made at Fanfest. Please be a little patient before writing posts about the lack of certain recent promised features. kieron Director of Community Relations, EVE Online EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...


CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.11.02 19:26:00 - [125] Originally by: Altaree Originally by: CCP kieron The patch notes should be published before the close of business Friday night. Kieron, hmmm... When is COB for iceland? It is now 6:30PM GMT....... I realize it is later than I said the notes would be published, but there were some final items that needed to be checked in before they could go online. My apoligies for the 2.5 hr. delay. kieron Director of Community Relations, EVE Online EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...

Letrange Minmatar Chaosstorm Corporation Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium	Posted - 2007.11.02 19:41:00 - [126] o.O That's it???
Hamfast Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.02 19:42:00 - [127] Originally by: CCP kieron Originally by: Altaree Originally by: CCP kieron The patch notes should be published before the close of business Friday night. Kieron, hmmm... When is COB for iceland? It is now 6:30PM GMT....... I realize it is later than I said the notes would be published, but there were some final items that needed to be checked in before they could go online. My apoligies for the 2.5 hr. delay. We all realize you are required to be smoozing with the fans at Fanfest (drinking heavily is an important part of this) thus we will give you a pass... or at least I will... for now. --------*****-------- It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face.
Bein Glorious GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.02 20:30:00 - [128] "Borther's Word" alliance?
Krystal Engle Amarr Vairu'len Pilgrims	Posted - 2007.11.02 20:44:00 - [129] I am failing to understand how those few lines of "patch notes" could cause in any way the 3 hours extended downtime we'll have to experience? -- D a m n a t i o n FC Personal Stats
Daan Sai HAZCON Inc Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.02 21:29:00 - [130] Originally by: Krystal Engle I am failing to understand how those few lines of "patch notes" could cause in any way the 3 hours extended downtime we'll have to experience? Read the dev post one sentence at a time until you find.... Originally by: CCP kieron There will be additional items added to the patch notes over the weekend and as some announcements are made at Fanfest. It isn't surprising really.
Zamarita Mau	Posted - 2007.11.02 21:55:00 - [131] I don't see anything about Cider in the patch notes, is Cider support still going to be included? I sure hope the answer is yes, me and my Mac Pro with 2 x 24' monitors would love CCP for that!
Cyleus Taestar	Posted - 2007.11.02 22:37:00 - [132] Edited by: Cyleus Taestar on 02/11/2007 22:40:53 Originally by: CCP kieron Please be a little patient before writing posts about the lack of certain recent promised features. Let's see how many people ignore this... 2 so far... Edit: Correction... 3 so far.
Miss CJB Gallente In White Suits	Posted - 2007.11.02 23:10:00 - [133] If an office's rent expires while a BP is in production and is not re-rented before the job is completed, the BP's will return to the impound. this cost me billions in lost profit while i waited for my peition to be answerd, thank you ccp, keep up the good work
Swamp Ziro GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.02 23:50:00 - [134] Youwhat banner updated... too late :(
Aramis Rosicrux Gallente Canadia Security Institute PROBABLE CAUSE	Posted - 2007.11.03 01:04:00 - [135] Originally by: CCP kieron Patch Notes are now available ... Please be a little patient before writing posts about the lack of certain recent promised features. Absolutely! A SMART person would realize that, like daddy's secretiveness the week before Christmas, you are preparing a present for us, and do not want to spoil the suprise! I, and many others who you do not hear clamoring for more info, have learned patience. Thank you, I am sure it will be great. Aramis Humility is the hallmark of honorable character. Aramis Rosicrux
BrianMc Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.03 04:43:00 - [136] Originally by: CCP Explorer Yes, there were changes to carriers, which I assume is what you're referring to, and those forum threads were read and taken seriously. I didn't see any mention of carrier changes in the patch notes, so still my beating heart, has the no-cargo-in-ships-inside-the-SMB change made it in this patch, yes or no?
Richard Gee Caldari The Flying Mongooses	Posted - 2007.11.03 06:28:00 - [137] Originally by: CCP kieron There will be additional items added to the patch notes over the weekend and as some announcements are made at Fanfest. Please be a little patient before writing posts about the lack of certain recent promised features. Okay, I'm waiting to hear what goodies we'll get when you're done having fun at Fanfest. All I have to say is I hope the OSX client is in your bag of gifts there or I'm going to be miffed. I want to get rid of Windows ASAP, dual booting is a pain. Never forget, a Jack-of-all-trades is master of none.
Bodhisattvas Mentally Unstable Enterprises	Posted - 2007.11.03 06:39:00 - [138] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Bodhisattvas "but with drone improvements" see now you be pressing buttons now. Do you people even take any notice of the forums and the multiple threads relating to the drone NERFS not improvements. We haven't nerfed drones, at least not that I'm aware of. Yes, there were changes to carriers, which I assume is what you're referring to, and those forum threads were read and taken seriously. What I was referring to was the drone UI improvements we made, the new commands, settings and shortcuts, increasing the scoop range and all the bugs in drone behaviour we fixed. Various gallante drone boats getting ridiculous drones quotas, bandwidth whatever it is called, eos etc, no shield regen on scoop...some peeps calling this an exploit ffs. Eos is basically being decimated, myrmidon is fine with 5 ogres as all it takes is for them to die and the ship loses a large chunk of its damage, really no need for a nerf. My gripe is bothering to waste training time for gallente drone boats and then what amounts to stupid nerfs being applied to a range of ships which are by no means invunerable. The crap that was pulled in nerfing nos and not balancing the effects on a small fleet of ships which have bonus for nos. Amarr recons for starters, its basically in peoples faces. Your breaking dictors, the list does go on. Why should people bother training for niche ships only to have all that time in training wasted. I'm sure theres plenty of peeps out there a gnats **** length away from not bothering to renew subscriptions because of unsound ships game changes, but hey hoo as long as the rest pay their subscriptions your wages why should you be bothered.
Lothros Andastar Gallente Imperium Forces United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.03 08:08:00 - [139] Originally by: Bodhisattvas Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Bodhisattvas "but with drone improvements" see now you be pressing buttons now. Do you people even take any notice of the forums and the multiple threads relating to the drone NERFS not improvements. We haven't nerfed drones, at least not that I'm aware of. Yes, there were changes to carriers, which I assume is what you're referring to, and those forum threads were read and taken seriously. What I was referring to was the drone UI improvements we made, the new commands, settings and shortcuts, increasing the scoop range and all the bugs in drone behaviour we fixed. ~Random Gibberish~ Can I have your stuff? No really if all ur gonna do is whinge leave
Echrei	Posted - 2007.11.03 11:25:00 - [140] Originally by: Dors Venabily Originally by: Echrei Originally by: Lix Titrax Yeah, the Linux and MacOS versions are in closed-Beta right now and are using a Cedega/Cider wrapper to make it work in Linux/Mac. But I need EVE that will run without Cider so I can run it on my old PPC Macs. I don't have an intel Mac... get new mac apple killed Power so why in the world would they be writing client for discontinued computer Because the majority of the market still has PowerPC based Macs. I have no money to buy a new comp anyway. I'm in college.
Bodhisattvas Mentally Unstable Enterprises	Posted - 2007.11.03 14:40:00 - [141] Originally by: Lothros Andastar Originally by: Bodhisattvas Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Bodhisattvas "but with drone improvements" see now you be pressing buttons now. Do you people even take any notice of the forums and the multiple threads relating to the drone NERFS not improvements. We haven't nerfed drones, at least not that I'm aware of. Yes, there were changes to carriers, which I assume is what you're referring to, and those forum threads were read and taken seriously. What I was referring to was the drone UI improvements we made, the new commands, settings and shortcuts, increasing the scoop range and all the bugs in drone behaviour we fixed. ~Random Gibberish~ Can I have your stuff? No really if all ur gonna do is whinge leave Hmm You can have my faeces with strawberry jam in a sandwich, its a slight variation on the nuttella jelly theme. I'd do it as a personal favour for you tho sweetpea.
Barbarellas Daughter Lonely Barbarella	Posted - 2007.11.03 16:40:00 - [142] Originally by: CCP Explorer This update, Revelations 2.3, contains formal support for Mac OS X and Linux. It also includes a few fixes for all platforms. Stay tuned for the release notes. Do want! ____________________________________________ Originally by: Marduk Felzhen You have an amazing cleavage, except you have no arms :(

CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.11.03 17:14:00 - [143] The Patch Notes have been updated with the following: As announced in Hellmar's Fanfest Keynote presentation, CCP has teamed with Transgaming to provide additional operating system support for the EVE client. EVE will now run on Macintosh OS X and Linux. For further information, please see this news item. Also, a new section concerning the new operating system support will be added to the Frequently Asked Questions on Monday. The newly supported Linux and Macintosh operating systems can now be specified when submitting technical petitions. kieron Director of Community Relations, EVE Online EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...

Fidel Castro	Posted - 2007.11.03 17:47:00 - [144] Edited by: Fidel Castro on 03/11/2007 17:47:55 EDIT Posted as an alt... dammit Originally by: CCP kieron The Patch Notes have been updated with the following: The newly supported Linux and Macintosh operating systems can now be specified when submitting technical petitions. Thank You!!! i will bake you guys a cake in thanks... unfortunately export restrictions will make it too hard to send, so i will also eat it and tell you how much you have enjoyed it. Gangus Personnel Manager and Unofficial Corp Booster Tester Matari BackBone
Thrawnfl	Posted - 2007.11.03 18:59:00 - [145] Do we have to pay any extra fee to be able to play eve on Linux or Mac once the 2.3 patch hits? or is it just as simple as downloading the client, installing and start playing?

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2007.11.03 19:12:00 - [146] Originally by: Thrawnfl Do we have to pay any extra fee to be able to play eve on Linux or Mac once the 2.3 patch hits? or is it just as simple as downloading the client, installing and start playing? Just download, install and play. As simple as that. Just do it! Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Echrei	Posted - 2007.11.03 21:28:00 - [147] I hope CCP ports EVE to Mac at some point without using Cider so PPC Macs can run it.
Aerandir Telrunya Gallente Bears Inc	Posted - 2007.11.03 21:31:00 - [148] Hurm... Linux support you say... Well all I can say to that is... THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! I've still not forgiven you for all the Gallente drone boat nerfs, but this goes a long way to making up them!
Dors Venabily	Posted - 2007.11.04 00:23:00 - [149] Originally by: Echrei I hope CCP ports EVE to Mac at some point without using Cider so PPC Macs can run it. Do you seriously think they will go through all that just so ppl that have legacy as not even apple gives a dam systems can run eve at 12 fps ?
Dors Venabily	Posted - 2007.11.04 00:26:00 - [150] Run the client Once the log in screen appears type in 87.237.38.51 in the server Combo box. Enter your username and password that you had on Tranquility the 2nd of October as the mirror was taken from Tranquility at that time. hold on is this like a separate server for MAC and Linux ?
Dr Shevchenko Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.04 01:09:00 - [151] Downloading Linux client now :) It would be interesting to know exactly how many people download it, as a percentage of active players. Hhopefully this will attract some new players....though a lot of people in the Linux community tend to be tightarses and expect everything to be free :/
Gangus Minmatar Matari BackBone	Posted - 2007.11.04 01:21:00 - [152] Originally by: Dr Shevchenko ....though a lot of people in the Linux community tend to be tightarses and expect everything to be free :/ Well why not? we also get all our windoze apps free as well (except these pesky subscription based services) Gangus Matari BackBone Never mess with a guy in an ugly ship. He's bitter and has nothing to lose.
Sylvorusian	Posted - 2007.11.04 01:21:00 - [153] I dowloading the mac client :) hope it runs smooth
Kahrll	Posted - 2007.11.04 02:07:00 - [154] Yay it works on a mac!!!! No more parallels for me. Hmmm... tho where is the window setting?
Zathi Shaitan	Posted - 2007.11.04 02:47:00 - [155] Originally by: Occara learn to english! where does that say they fixed all drone bugs? all it says is that he is talking about all the drone bugs they fixed. as in the entirety of the subset of drone bugs that are the ones that they have fixed. Thee who has a glass roof, shall not throw rocks. Your english is pathetic, don't try to tell others yours is better.
Xiliath JUDGE DREAD Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.04 04:15:00 - [156] Yay! Finally a Linux client.
Echrei	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:58:00 - [157] Originally by: Dors Venabily Originally by: Echrei I hope CCP ports EVE to Mac at some point without using Cider so PPC Macs can run it. Do you seriously think they will go through all that just so ppl that have legacy as not even apple gives a dam systems can run eve at 12 fps ? So a 2 year old system is legacy? That's pushing it. I can run Quake 4 and Prey at over 30fps, so I think I can handle EVE just fine. I've run it on a PC with a GeForce 6800. I have an X800XT and that's even faster.
padiculous	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:53:00 - [158] I'm running Ubuntu 7.10 Desktop 64bit. And the client won't launch because it says I'm missing 32bit libraries. Should the requirements say "Ubuntu 7.x 32-bit" instead of "Ubuntu 7.x"? Also, do I need a paid Cedega subscription, or is this included in the .deb package?
Glockman	Posted - 2007.11.04 08:29:00 - [159] Originally by: Okaii Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 31/10/2007 23:47:29 This update, Revelations 2.3, contains formal support for Mac OS X and Linux. It also includes a few fixes for all platforms. Stay tuned for the release notes. Hell yeah! That's sweet. I was on a trial account and was gonna not buy the game cause dual booting is such a pain in the ass. Now... /buys this game, ill be making my account a payed one
Xiliath JUDGE DREAD Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.04 10:41:00 - [160] I installed the client, and it said I needed to patch to connect to multiplicity, so I patched, and none of the buttons on the left appear besides undock, and the station services are messed up. Also, while at the login page my computer went into screensaver mode, and the game went black. Had to reboot to get it to show properly again. This was all using Ubuntu 7.10
OptimusWang	Posted - 2007.11.04 12:24:00 - [161] Edited by: OptimusWang on 04/11/2007 12:25:30 I appreciate the effort that went into making a mac version, but why are so many key features missing or rendered awkward? Why don't I have the option of running in windowed mode? I don't have 2 20" monitors so one can just sit black all the time. No dual-boxing makes me a sad panda Also, why are the keyboard shortcuts all using the control key and not the command key like every other app that runs under OSX does?
Watsamata	Posted - 2007.11.04 13:07:00 - [162] Edited by: Watsamata on 04/11/2007 13:08:17 I downloaded the Mac client and when I run it I only see the Tranquility server option. If I type in Multiplicity it doesn't recognize the server name. I also tried 87.237.38.51 and no luck with that either. I also haven't seen any messages to patch. How do I connect?

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2007.11.04 15:06:00 - [163] Edited by: CCP Explorer on 04/11/2007 15:11:35 Originally by: Dors Venabily Run the client Once the log in screen appears type in 87.237.38.51 in the server Combo box. Enter your username and password that you had on Tranquility the 2nd of October as the mirror was taken from Tranquility at that time. hold on is this like a separate server for MAC and Linux? Multiplicity is our public test server for Tranquility hotfixes, patches and updates, whereas Singularity is our public test server for updates and expansions. Currently Tranquility is running Revelations 2.2.2-7, Multiplicity is running Revelations 2.3 and Singularity is running Trinity. Revelations 2.3 will be deployed to Tranquility on Tuesday, 6 Nov. Originally by: OptimusWang Why don't I have the option of running in windowed mode? I don't have 2 20" monitors so one can just sit black all the time. No dual-boxing makes me a sad panda The EVE client runs fullscreen inside the Cider / Cedega window, but you don't have to have that window fullscreen. Look at the Cider / Cedega options to enter windowed mode. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

OptimusWang	Posted - 2007.11.04 16:04:00 - [164] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: OptimusWang Why don't I have the option of running in windowed mode? I don't have 2 20" monitors so one can just sit black all the time. No dual-boxing makes me a sad panda The EVE client runs fullscreen inside the Cider / Cedega window, but you don't have to have that window fullscreen. Look at the Cider / Cedega options to enter windowed mode. Please tell myself and all the other mac users where exactly this is, as a few of us have been looking and can't find this at all.
maltari Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.11.04 17:11:00 - [165] Alt+Enter doesn't work for me in the linux client, and I can't change to windowed mode in EVE settings window. Is there another way? I searched for a cedega configuration utility and couldn't find any. PS: The other thread about my issue: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=628844
Phanius	Posted - 2007.11.04 17:56:00 - [166] Playing EVE on openSuSE 10.3 under wine 0.9.48. Everything is fine. Should I use Linux client?
Charles BronZon	Posted - 2007.11.04 20:12:00 - [167] so am i the only one who thiks its akward that only ubuntu and suse is supported? i am aware that these are the most common distributions, but that just ain't what linux is about, but hey cedega itself isn't either so whatever... i'll stick to wine!
Awox Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:55:00 - [168] Originally by: Charles BronZon so am i the only one who thiks its akward that only ubuntu and suse is supported? i am aware that these are the most common distributions, but that just ain't what linux is about, but hey cedega itself isn't either so whatever... i'll stick to wine! I don't understand why a traditional sh installer wasn't used. Only one of the distributions supported are actually popular, but I'm sure it will be possible to install on other distros..
Nasredin Abdulon	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:50:00 - [169] Who says you can't use the rpm or deb package on other distributions? Simply extract the content and copy it to the respective folders. (I don't believe there would be a problem to use the rpm on Fedora or Mandriva (but I don't know)). (I use Arch Linux and installed the client that way).
Gwruu	Posted - 2007.11.05 04:16:00 - [170] Originally by: Nasredin Abdulon Who says you can't use the rpm or deb package on other distributions? Simply extract the content and copy it to the respective folders. (I don't believe there would be a problem to use the rpm on Fedora or Mandriva (but I don't know)). (I use Arch Linux and installed the client that way). Trying the RPM brings up these: Missing Dependency: dbus-1-python is needed by package eve-suse Missing Dependency: python-gtk >= 2.6 is needed by package eve-suse I wouldn't even know where to start with the .deb one

CCP Lingorm	Posted - 2007.11.05 09:21:00 - [171] Originally by: Phanius Playing EVE on openSuSE 10.3 under wine 0.9.48. Everything is fine. Should I use Linux client? You can choose to continue playing under Wine and it will work, right up until we release EVE:Trinity. We are making a number of changes to our file handling (the Asynchronous IO that has been mentioned) currently thi is NOT supported by either Wine or Cedega, but the nice folks at Transgaming are already working furiously to get this working before we release EVE:Trinity. Going forward we will be testing each release with the Transgaming code so that it will work. Transgaming get access to early versions of the code base to keep their support in step with our game so that the Mac and Linux clients will always work. CCP Lingorm CCP Quality Assurance QA Engineering Team Leader

silken mouth	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:08:00 - [172] where is the eve client located under linux? because i cant find it, and i want to fix my prefs.ini. since i get the splash and then nothing. sorry, new to linux, and cedega forums didnt help. using this eve with cedega package btw. no standard installation.
Cheopis Big Rock Disposal Services	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:13:00 - [173] Originally by: Bloodhands whatcha fix'n? oh, who ya banning? Oh, are you guys putting in the fabled 'big ore' patch that makes all the good ore the size of giant veld roids but still has the same amount of ore inside just to screw with the carebears? cause that would be a fun little patch. You don't think the fun they had with putting fake crokite, jaspet, and hed in the newbie tutorial mission for caldari was funny? I made a noob and played with the new tutorials to see what they were like and almost ****ed my pants when I saw that belt I was going to make a noob a day to mine that belt till I took a close look and saw the ore names
Solbright altaltaltalt	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:13:00 - [174] Originally by: silken mouth where is the eve client located under linux? because i cant find it, and i want to fix my prefs.ini. since i get the splash and then nothing. Everything is inside ~/.cedega/ but you won't be fixing the problem by fiddling with Eve's prefs. There is a decent group of Linux boxes that it just don't work with. Wine is the only solution for the moment.
Cheopis Big Rock Disposal Services	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:19:00 - [175] "Various fixes and enhancements have been added to our billing and petition systems, as well as to GM tools." Does this mean that there will be a right click option on a player's name in chat channels for immediate reporting of ISK selling (including transcript capture), and GM's will have a one-click option to crush 14 day trial accounts, and a two or three step process to cancel paid accounts?
Charles BronZon	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:57:00 - [176] Originally by: Gwruu Trying the RPM brings up these: Missing Dependency: dbus-1-python is needed by package eve-suse Missing Dependency: python-gtk >= 2.6 is needed by package eve-suse I wouldn't even know where to start with the .deb one trying to install those dependencies causes even more dependencies to show up, the whole suse package management actually. why on earth suse is one of the supported distros is even a bigger clue to me, suse is by far the crappiest distro i've ever tested (and i've tested a lot of em) unpacking the .deb works though its far form being comfortable (even for a linux application) considering the fact that cedega itself supports a whole bunch more distros than 2! this is nothing but lousy work, witch shows a big disinterest in the linux port as a whole.
R0CKSOLID	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:03:00 - [177] Hey CCP... Your work on enable support for more OS is awesome!!! I wonder if there is any chance of making full support of Win x64 bit operating systems. I know alot of guys running x64 bit OS and it would be very appriciated if this comes true. Sinc.. R
Umbriele Gallente Natural Inventions	Posted - 2007.11.05 13:19:00 - [178] Edited by: Umbriele on 05/11/2007 13:19:22 Originally by: CCP kieron If someone buys me enough beer at the Fanfest, I might even narrow the deployment date down to a month. Your continue campaign pro-beer is not good among a comunity of young people. Alcool is bad mkay? We have too many young people dying for alcool abuse.
Lon beLine Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.05 15:23:00 - [179] Two things. One, for the love of EVE, can someone make a torrent for the OSX and Linux clients? I can't find any. If I still can't find any by the time I finish, I will. Second, how are updates going to happen for these clients?? NOTE: How about CCP make the torrents? Seed for a day and it will take care of it's self... :-D PLEASE? I am not Aliastra because I am a n00b. I'm Aliastra because I don't need to stinking corp!
Velomis	Posted - 2007.11.05 17:12:00 - [180] On my Mac OX Client, I can't connect to Multiplicity. It says server unknown. I have tried changing the port to 3724 but that also did not work. Is anyone else having this problem? Any thoughts on how to fix it? Thanks
Haurian Zealot	Posted - 2007.11.05 19:18:00 - [181] Originally by: Lei Airaken Edited by: Lei Airaken on 01/11/2007 03:53:26 Just put up the ******* patch notes already you jackasses. I mean seriously, are you guys using us to start threadnaughts for some reason? Patch notes + announcement = smart Announcement - patch notes = obnoxious. Very simple math. hmmmm. so, logically... smart - obnoxious = 2 x patch notes \o/
Lon beLine Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.05 20:17:00 - [182] Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 04/11/2007 15:11:35 Originally by: Dors Venabily Run the client Once the log in screen appears type in 87.237.38.51 in the server Combo box. Enter your username and password that you had on Tranquility the 2nd of October as the mirror was taken from Tranquility at that time. hold on is this like a separate server for MAC and Linux? Multiplicity is our public test server for Tranquility hotfixes, patches and updates, whereas Singularity is our public test server for updates and expansions. Currently Tranquility is running Revelations 2.2.2-7, Multiplicity is running Revelations 2.3 and Singularity is running Trinity. Revelations 2.3 will be deployed to Tranquility on Tuesday, 6 Nov. Originally by: OptimusWang Why don't I have the option of running in windowed mode? I don't have 2 20" monitors so one can just sit black all the time. No dual-boxing makes me a sad panda The EVE client runs fullscreen inside the Cider / Cedega window, but you don't have to have that window fullscreen. Look at the Cider / Cedega options to enter windowed mode. I can not connect to Multiplicity either... --------------------- I am not Aliastra because I am a n00b. I'm Aliastra because I don't need to stinking corp!
Anarlina	Posted - 2007.11.05 20:53:00 - [183] Originally by: Lon beLine Second, how are updates going to happen for these clients?? NOTE: How about CCP make the torrents? Seed for a day and it will take care of it's self... :-D PLEASE? At least on the Mac side, the client includes a wrapper which seems to check for patches (and can apply them) before launching EvE itself. So it looks like it will be a very automatic process. I haven't looked at how they wrapped up the Linux side of things.
Lon beLine Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.05 21:06:00 - [184] Made a torrent: http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1415547/?rel=1194296529 --------------------- I am not in Aliastra because I am a n00b. I'm in Aliastra because I don't need no stinking corp!
Slimmy The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.05 23:28:00 - [185] Originally by: Lon beLine Made a torrent: http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1415547/?rel=1194296529 Thanks for that...all of a sudden the direct download links seem to be gone =/
Anarlina	Posted - 2007.11.05 23:51:00 - [186] Originally by: Slimmy Originally by: Lon beLine Made a torrent: http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1415547/?rel=1194296529 Thanks for that...all of a sudden the direct download links seem to be gone =/ The patch is going live tomorrow, and it looks like the official client for Tranquility is newer than the Linux/Mac test clients they posted in the news article. They probably want to save a couple people pain of downloading the client twice in two days. :P
Lon beLine Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.06 02:35:00 - [187] Originally by: Anarlina Originally by: Slimmy Originally by: Lon beLine Made a torrent: http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1415547/?rel=1194296529 Thanks for that...all of a sudden the direct download links seem to be gone =/ The patch is going live tomorrow, and it looks like the official client for Tranquility is newer than the Linux/Mac test clients they posted in the news article. They probably want to save a couple people pain of downloading the client twice in two days. :P You are right... and yet, wrong, my friend. It was already pointed out that the wrapper has a built-in update checker. It was taken down, probably because they realized that inside was a patched client that (go figure) wasn't released yet. However, even if the builds are different, the updater will straighten that out for those of us who has already downloaded the client. Otherwise, we would have to download the full client every time an update came out. And how dumb would that be? That said. Why should one download the torrent as opposed to the client released in the morning? Why, to get a head start on things, get the 850meg client first and fast, and get the update when it is loosed. It's up to you. --------------------- I am not in Aliastra because I am a n00b. I'm in Aliastra because I don't need no stinking corp!
Mmikel Caldari Mista Wizards	Posted - 2007.11.06 06:11:00 - [188] hmm, I can't understand.... will I need to buy cedega? or it will be integrated into EVE client?
devians theoria	Posted - 2007.11.06 08:12:00 - [189] Originally by: Haurian Zealot Originally by: Lei Airaken Edited by: Lei Airaken on 01/11/2007 03:53:26 Just put up the ******* patch notes already you jackasses. I mean seriously, are you guys using us to start threadnaughts for some reason? Patch notes + announcement = smart Announcement - patch notes = obnoxious. Very simple math. hmmmm. so, logically... smart - obnoxious = 2 x patch notes \o/ smart - obnoxious = patch notes + announcement - announcement - patch notes = nothing? unless im overlooking something important with brackets :P
Risen Gallente 9th Squad	Posted - 2007.11.06 09:29:00 - [190] Originally by: R0CKSOLID Hey CCP... I wonder if there is any chance of making full support of Win x64 bit operating systems. I know alot of guys running x64 bit OS and it would be very appriciated if this comes true. Sinc.. R I'd love to see some sort x64bit support aswell, be cool to fully utilize this facility ! Risen
Jai Ming	Posted - 2007.11.06 10:09:00 - [191] Edited by: Jai Ming on 06/11/2007 10:10:12 Edited by: Jai Ming on 06/11/2007 10:09:36 Originally by: Sekretar revelations III will come next year :) they still have time to deploy 2.4 to 2.9 :P In software 3.0 does not necessarily come after 2.9 ;) They can still have 2.10, 2.11 2.12, 2.13 and so on to 2.65536 if they wanted. They will call it 3.0 when the benefits of releasing it outweigh the fallout from the bugs that still exist. Usually a developer will say "When it's done," but what they mean is "Before it's too late, some time well before I would really call it 'Done' but at a stage that isn't too horribly bad."
Ancy Denaries Caldari Isseras Manufacture	Posted - 2007.11.06 12:19:00 - [192] Originally by: Mmikel hmm, I can't understand.... will I need to buy cedega? or it will be integrated into EVE client? Nope, the EVE client will come with a free Transgaming wrapper (basically a dumbed down Cedega). No need to buy anything extra. CCP has claimed that you will pay for and recieve the same for Windows, Mac and Linux.

CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.11.06 12:22:00 - [193] Patch notes have been updated with an exploit fix. Post-patch feedback thread coming up in a few minutes. kieron Director of Community Relations, EVE Online EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...

Odessayeti	Posted - 2007.11.06 12:30:00 - [194] where do i download the mac client?
zombu2 Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.11.06 12:35:00 - [195] F*** transgaming why is only ubuntu and suse supported i m sorry but suse went to bed with the micro$oft devil and i m not a big fan of ubuntu (not saying its bad i just don t like the flavor) i don t see why i need to change my os to something else to play eve since ubuntu is a debian flavor it shouldn t be to hard to get it to work on any debian based os and if something runs on suse it will run everywhere so no panic just a matter of getting the right dependencies hehe i m not worried about getting it to run on fedora 7 oh btw BIG THNX for making a linux client that was the only reason a kept windows around on a spare hd and i can finally free up the space to use it for something productive Please don t hijack my Sig no more like it is my fault your webserver has only a 10Mb Hdd
Wurschtsupp	Posted - 2007.11.06 13:05:00 - [196] And for the Windows User?? Where is the patch for version 41736?? My old client 37459 doesn¦t connect anymore. There should be at least some information at the patch info WHERE AND WHEN this patch will be available.

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2007.11.06 13:12:00 - [197] Originally by: Wurschtsupp And for the Windows User?? Where is the patch for version 41736?? My old client 37459 doesn¦t connect anymore. There should be at least some information at the patch info WHERE AND WHEN this patch will be available. The downtime for deployment is until 14:00 GMT. Connect after that time and your client will automatically download an update. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Lon beLine Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.06 13:48:00 - [198] Huh... Looks like there isn't an available patch for the MAC client loosed the other day? I tried connecting to Tranquility, and it says "no patch available." Or do I just have to wait? --------------------- I am not in Aliastra because I am a n00b. I'm in Aliastra because I don't need no stinking corp!
Bert Ho	Posted - 2007.11.06 13:52:00 - [199] okay... maybe sound like a noob, but what does this patch mean to me? What do I have to do? Do I have to download anything in order to play when the server comes online again?
Lon beLine Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.06 13:57:00 - [200] yes. you can not play on any server unless your clients build number matches the server. it will auto upload (should). --------------------- I am not in Aliastra because I am a n00b. I'm in Aliastra because I don't need no stinking corp!
Lazuran Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2007.11.06 14:21:00 - [201] Edited by: Lazuran on 06/11/2007 14:28:32 The currently downloadable patch is broken. It asks me to reboot (huh?) and the client (eve.exe) says: "Your EVE client installation may have modified, damaged or corrupt files ... timestamp "2007.11.05 11:17:32", expected "2006.04.21 12:56:54". Edit: nvm, somehow the patch locked the client and the correct version was installed after rebooting. "...been designed for one purpose and one purpose only. Imagine a handful of repair drones pouring from the carebear's mouth. Now imagine they have um, nothing." -Unknown Hel redesigner (2007)
Illandria Kitrianne	Posted - 2007.11.06 14:22:00 - [202] OK... this took a lil hoop jumping on SuSE 10.3, so FYI, Check you have the following packages (as per the requirements page) # python >= 2.4 # python-gtk >= 2.6 # gtk2 >= 2.6 # wget # dbus-1-python Put the EvE rpm in a directory and start YaST, Go to Software->Software Repositories Click ADD Select "Local Directory" & Click Next Check "Plain RPM Directory" Give it a name live "EvE Repository".. doesn't really matter what - its just to be able to Identify it Browse for the directory & select it. Click "Next" & "Finish" Back at YaST's main screen - go to Software->Software Management when the package manager comes up - search for "eve"... it is in the list somewhere mixed up with all the "development" packages (erm, CCP - can we have another name for this pls, even an extended name.... there are a _lot_ of dev packages available on any linux distro) Highlight it, click install, click accept... it will complain about package dependencies - just say install eve anyway.... you should be fine (crossing fingers here, it did appear in my software list, it did run & its downloading for the next hour - heres hoping it gets past that) CCP - your dependencies in the package are a bit duff.... sorry.
Lon beLine Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.06 14:27:00 - [203] Edited by: Lon beLine on 06/11/2007 14:27:45 Originally by: Lazuran The currently downloadable patch is broken. It asks me to reboot (huh?) and the client (eve.exe) says: "Your EVE client installation may have modified, damaged or corrupt files ... timestamp "2007.11.05 11:17:32", expected "2006.04.21 12:56:54". I have a feeling this is because whatever patch you are downloading is the wrong one. The latest build (today's) is 41736. The MAC (and others) client, that was loosed the other day, was 41536, while the latest public version of the client before today was 37459. This said, the latest "patch-able" client is the 37459 build, and subsequently, the 37459to41736 patch is the latest available patch. Attempting to patch OUR latest version (the version CCP loosed the other day) with the latest patch will lead to errors like you mentioned... Piffft... --------------------- I am not in Aliastra because I am a n00b. I'm in Aliastra because I don't need no stinking corp!
Lon beLine Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.06 14:34:00 - [204] Originally by: Illandria Kitrianne OK... this took a lil hoop jumping on SuSE 10.3, so FYI, But you know what? I mean, it may be a little slipshod right now, but look at all the distros they came out to officially support. I'm not even a Linux guy, but to see more support than just Ubuntu and SuSE, it fills my little heart. Just THINK of all the MONEY they are going to make! You know what I am waiting for now? Some one with a Linux box to do some tinkering and make us a private server software... I mean, I don't condone the act of piracy, and such, but I could see it happening... --------------------- I am not in Aliastra because I am a n00b. I'm in Aliastra because I don't need no stinking corp!
Illandria Kitrianne	Posted - 2007.11.06 14:43:00 - [205] Edited by: Illandria Kitrianne on 06/11/2007 14:45:03 lol... harsh, however, while I'm a complete distro ***** (Edit: wow - I never expected that to be censored) who can pretty much bend any of them to her will - not everyone is me... ergo the lil helper. In this household there has not been a single windoze box for over 3 years.... not even a dual boot... just mac & linux.. and SuSE is what I have right now :P Call back next week - it may change ;) On the flip side... I should have said.... CCP... I LOVE YOU FOREVER... well - maybe until the next patch day... xxx
Lon beLine Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.06 14:49:00 - [206] I wasn't coming down on anyone/thing. I was just saying that I am happy CCP decided to spread the welcome mat for the lot of the bunch, and not just a select few (as was suggested earlier in this thread). I used to have a few *nix machines. But being a web designer/photographer first, geek second (sometimes the other way around, but hey), the lack of Adobe (and once, Macromedia) products made me go back to the Mac and Windows world. I would if I could, but in reality, I can't. But do enjoy your SuSE box. And now. EVE! --------------------- I am not in Aliastra because I am a n00b. I'm in Aliastra because I don't need no stinking corp!
Hugh Ruka Caldari Exploratio et Industria Morispatia	Posted - 2007.11.06 15:04:00 - [207] wallet mouseover tooltip does not show correct ballance. just bought a few things for cca 140m isk, but ballance mousover did not register the 2nd large (118m isk) transaction. Originally by: Aravel Thon Originally by: Nith Batoxxx Hi my alt just leanred to fly the ferox............... I am so so terribly sorry...
Anarlina	Posted - 2007.11.06 16:44:00 - [208] Originally by: Lon beLine Edited by: Lon beLine on 06/11/2007 14:27:45 Originally by: Lazuran The currently downloadable patch is broken. It asks me to reboot (huh?) and the client (eve.exe) says: "Your EVE client installation may have modified, damaged or corrupt files ... timestamp "2007.11.05 11:17:32", expected "2006.04.21 12:56:54". I have a feeling this is because whatever patch you are downloading is the wrong one. The latest build (today's) is 41736. The MAC (and others) client, that was loosed the other day, was 41536, while the latest public version of the client before today was 37459. This said, the latest "patch-able" client is the 37459 build, and subsequently, the 37459to41736 patch is the latest available patch. Attempting to patch OUR latest version (the version CCP loosed the other day) with the latest patch will lead to errors like you mentioned... Piffft... This is why I said CPP probably doesn't want people downloading the client twice in two days. :) I hit this situation a couple times before when using the Windows client, and I expected the exact same treatment from these new ones. That said, where is the official Mac client for Tranquility? Why is it down already? :(
Lock Monarch	Posted - 2007.11.06 16:54:00 - [209] I must be missing somthing, i type in the 87.237 etc. connect, and it tells me i have the wrong version and have to download one off the support page thing. I do this, however the patch is an exe, i cant open this on my Mac, or am i missing the point entirely.
Anarlina	Posted - 2007.11.06 17:15:00 - [210] Edited by: Anarlina on 06/11/2007 17:17:05 Originally by: Lock Monarch I must be missing somthing, i type in the 87.237 etc. connect, and it tells me i have the wrong version and have to download one off the support page thing. I do this, however the patch is an exe, i cant open this on my Mac, or am i missing the point entirely. Multiplicity (the test server) is down. You should be pointing the Mac client at Tranquility now. If you can't connect to Tranquility, you still have the test build for the Mac, and need to download the fully supported build from the EvE Client download page. (And thanks for getting that up ASAP, guys)
ChiseFu	Posted - 2007.11.06 17:25:00 - [211] I'm so happy EVE has a Linux client now. Does no formal ATI support mean that it'll run but it hasn't been tested?
LeeUK2	Posted - 2007.11.06 18:25:00 - [212] servers down already :( any reason why?
Lon beLine Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.06 18:45:00 - [213] Hmmm... Still unable to connect to TQ at 1:41pm EST. On another note: The OFFICIAL (Build 41736) client is available for download in torrent form at: http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1416584/15071824/ --------------------- I am not in Aliastra because I am a n00b. I'm in Aliastra because I don't need no stinking corp!
Lon beLine Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.06 18:49:00 - [214] It said it was up, but it is still down. Server graph is missing, as well as the Dev Blog feed and descriptions for a number of news items. I would hate to be in the control room right now... --------------------- I am not in Aliastra because I am a n00b. I'm in Aliastra because I don't need no stinking corp!
ChiseFu	Posted - 2007.11.06 19:18:00 - [215] Originally by: Lon beLine Hmmm... Still unable to connect to TQ at 1:41pm EST. On another note: The OFFICIAL (Build 41736) client is available for download in torrent form at: http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1416584/15071824/ This is what I get when I load the page: We received a letter from a lawyer represeting the CRIA, they were threatening with legal action and We need to start blocking Canadian traffic because of this. If you reside in Canada, that is the reason you are being redirected to this message. Thanks for your understanding, and sorry for any inconvenience.
Lon beLine Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.06 19:26:00 - [216] Originally by: ChiseFu Originally by: Lon beLine Hmmm... Still unable to connect to TQ at 1:41pm EST. On another note: The OFFICIAL (Build 41736) client is available for download in torrent form at: http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1416584/15071824/ This is what I get when I load the page: We received a letter from a lawyer represeting the CRIA, they were threatening with legal action and We need to start blocking Canadian traffic because of this. If you reside in Canada, that is the reason you are being redirected to this message. Thanks for your understanding, and sorry for any inconvenience. Then... your boned... --------------------- I am not in Aliastra because I am a n00b. I'm in Aliastra because I don't need no stinking corp!
CrazyIvan Minmatar Calista Industries Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.06 19:42:00 - [217] Btw, a link to a gentoo ebuild discussion is here: Gentoo Forums->Gamers and Players->Eve Online use the ebuild from here: Gentoo Bugzilla Eve Online Ebuild you'll need to make a portage overlay if you don't already have one. instructions can be found here: HOWTO_Installing_3rd_Party_Ebuilds Not sure if the dependancies are accurate, but it works on my machine, though I was already running Eve in Cedega prior to this wrapper client.
phyllis	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:02:00 - [218] not accepting connections yet there is 21k people online. any reason for this..... id like to log on sometime today :-)
Mr Spillypants Minmatar Lost Wacko's	Posted - 2007.11.06 21:35:00 - [219] ok i read the patch notes and see no reference to changes in the game other then code updates, fixes and the added ability to support other operating systems.....was there no changes to torps, ships or skills? (I am sorry if this was answered here, i did not read all the pages but read most)
Shurra Tiarr Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.07 00:07:00 - [220] This is Revelations 2.3 patch. Trinity will be out later this month (supposedly) and will contain the graphics update (Trinity v2) and other contents. The notes are confusing but it seems to boil down to this way. o hai, mi lazah beems go pew pew pew!!1
devians theoria	Posted - 2007.11.07 02:27:00 - [221] ack, sucks that the client has to be redownloaded rather than just patched :(
Yuan Fang	Posted - 2007.11.07 10:41:00 - [222] I read on the Macworld web review that the graphical improvements for Trinity wont be initially available for Mac and Linux box users. That will eventually be rectified, right? I'm also hoping that the social ambulatory upgrade coming in the future also wont be restricted to Windows users. I will be greatly disappointed if that is the case.
Raleigh The Greater Goon GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.07 13:09:00 - [223] Power of 2 extension for mac/linux client news post says its on the account management page. It's definitely not!
Alexander Smith	Posted - 2007.11.11 01:36:00 - [224] Do we have any date for the graphic update on TQ? When we will be able to download the new art in singularity?
Typo91	Posted - 2007.11.17 00:52:00 - [225] Originally by: Alexander Smith Do we have any date for the graphic update on TQ? When we will be able to download the new art in singularity? ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ Thats all anyone really wants to know! Been waiting for 2 years since i saw the first screen shots... what ever happened to game makers releasing state of the art engines and graphix, when did everyone start showing graphics 3 years ahead of there time and then release them 2 years behind there time (for those keeping track yes thats 5 years)
Dalfey	Posted - 2007.11.23 05:14:00 - [226]
VALKYRIE MOON	Posted - 2007.12.01 04:16:00 - [227] But I like beer!

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