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Karrde CZ
Minmatar CHON THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2007.12.06 18:53:00 -
[1231]
Originally by: Phoenixhawk
http://games.slashdot.org/games/07/12/06/1312254.shtml
have to agree here with /. here: "the incredibly stupid choice of boot.ini as a game configuration file"
For everything else, there is Mastercard.

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DJTheBaron
Caldari FinFleet Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.06 18:53:00 -
[1232]
I got a boot error of hal.ddl missing, and couldnt do anything about it, took the drive and installed it in another machien and the file is not missing, i then copied the file before overwriting it with the 2nd machines hal.dll and it did not resolve the issue, is this the same issue as boot.ini
Hopefully it is and i can sort it when i go home, unfortunatley i deleted most of my non essential files to create a backup folder to transfer to the remaining space on the second drive...
I hope my long skill training was long enough...
"The Views & Opinions Expressed In This Post Represent Your Own, So Dont Bother Arguing" DJTheBaron: Diplomacy 4TW |

Ines petrvs
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Posted - 2007.12.06 18:54:00 -
[1233]
Originally by: Arctulias Edited by: Arctulias on 06/12/2007 07:34:45 Edited by: Arctulias on 06/12/2007 07:21:25 For those saying I can't find my boot.ini, it is a hidden system file.
Go to start -> run -> cmd Type find "" C:\boot.ini
If its there it should read something like ---------- C:\BOOT.INI If its not there it should say File not found - C:\boot.ini
One more thing
Make sure to lock your boot file if you copied it in there and didn't use the windows restore.
In the command prompt type attrib +r +s +h C:/boot.ini
That will put it back to a read-only hidden system file.
OK you are the KING!!!
at first try's , i had the warning : file not there bla,bla... then I try to follow the step until I was going to save the copy and paste , WINDOWS asked me " are you sure you want to "overwrite" this ?
I was like : Hmmm , if window is asking me to overwrite MAYBE its the>>>> C:\boot.ini is there so that's when i saw the Artulias POST !!
so simple you just need to this>>>>>>
Go to start -> run -> cmd Type find "" C:\boot.ini
If its there it should read something like ---------- C:\BOOT.INI If its not there it should say File not found - C:\boot.ini
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Yoshi Horohito
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Posted - 2007.12.06 18:55:00 -
[1234]
The Yoshi Horohito fix:
Here is what I did and it seems to be working for me, as I just rebooted and risked my computer not working to help the rest of you.
Now I have Windows 2000 professional and have no idea if this is a fix for Windows XP, but checking won't hurt.
So I went to start and then search, to search my files and folders for "boot.ini". I came up with a boot.ini located in my Eve folder (good job guys) and a boot.ini.backup located in C:\WINNT\pss. I copied the file called boot.ini.backup to my desktop and opened it with notepad......it looked pretty ok based on what you guys have been typing as what should be in it. I went up to file then save as and saved it as boot.ini.
On my desktop it still had the .backup extension just to **** me off so I clicked on the name of the file to rename it and simply deleted the .backup part of the name thus leaving it called boot.ini
I then copied this new boot.ini file (it magically transformed its icon appearance when I deleted .backup) to my C drive. I did this by opening "my computer" then doubble clicking the C: drive and dragging the boot.ini file in there.
I did the test to see if I had a boot.ini file now by doing what CCP said to check: Start: Control Panel: System: Advanced: Startup and Recovery: Settings.
This time it didn't alert me to my boot.ini file being missing, originally it had.
I then crossed my fingers and restarted my computer as it was the only way I would find out if this boot.ini.backup file that I had converted had all the info in it necessary to allow my computer to actually reboot correctly.
Since I am making this post here, I'm assuming this fixed my computer and the boot.ini file I put in the C: drive is still there and hasn't re-disappeared or anything.
So hopefully that will help the few of you who have not rebooted your computer yet and are waiting for CCP to figure something like this out for you.......
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Beara
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Posted - 2007.12.06 18:56:00 -
[1235]
Originally by: Beara ok. I restored my computer to an earlier date and that worked. My question now is do I uninstall eve then reinstall it or just use the patch? If this was answered before I'm sorry, I only read 7 pages in the begining of this thread. Thanks
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Trask II
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Posted - 2007.12.06 18:57:00 -
[1236]
Quote: HAHAHAH im fixed :) my computer tech friend (currently in school for it anyways) (and im at his house)hooked me up big time but i had already uninstalled EVE good lucks sp2 users and may u be as blessed as me. ohh btw i love that c/100mil or i'll boot.ini your ship awsome
I like the eve patch slot machine one. 
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Thargat
Caldari North Star Networks Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 18:58:00 -
[1237]
Originally by: Yoshi Horohito The Yoshi Horohito fix:
Here is what I did and it seems to be working for me, as I just rebooted and risked my computer not working to help the rest of you.
Now I have Windows 2000 professional and have no idea if this is a fix for Windows XP, but checking won't hurt.
So I went to start and then search, to search my files and folders for "boot.ini". I came up with a boot.ini located in my Eve folder (good job guys) and a boot.ini.backup located in C:\WINNT\pss. I copied the file called boot.ini.backup to my desktop and opened it with notepad......it looked pretty ok based on what you guys have been typing as what should be in it. I went up to file then save as and saved it as boot.ini.
On my desktop it still had the .backup extension just to **** me off so I clicked on the name of the file to rename it and simply deleted the .backup part of the name thus leaving it called boot.ini
I then copied this new boot.ini file (it magically transformed its icon appearance when I deleted .backup) to my C drive. I did this by opening "my computer" then doubble clicking the C: drive and dragging the boot.ini file in there.
I did the test to see if I had a boot.ini file now by doing what CCP said to check: Start: Control Panel: System: Advanced: Startup and Recovery: Settings.
This time it didn't alert me to my boot.ini file being missing, originally it had.
I then crossed my fingers and restarted my computer as it was the only way I would find out if this boot.ini.backup file that I had converted had all the info in it necessary to allow my computer to actually reboot correctly.
Since I am making this post here, I'm assuming this fixed my computer and the boot.ini file I put in the C: drive is still there and hasn't re-disappeared or anything.
So hopefully that will help the few of you who have not rebooted your computer yet and are waiting for CCP to figure something like this out for you.......
another good way to fix it yes, grats n thanx (on behalf of those too ****ed to give such)
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Beara
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:03:00 -
[1238]
Do I have to un install eve and re install it. Or can I use the patch now
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Petra Arkanas
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:03:00 -
[1239]
So,,,,,,
1) In installed the patch about 1 hour after it became available 2) In installed the grpahical upgrade half an hour after that (Windows XP installed on C Drive, Eve-Online installed on C Drive) 3) I sampled the new beauty of the patch - and well done on the new graphics btw ccp, its truly stunning - just a shame that this mess will overshadow it..... 4) I turned off my PC (full power down) and went off to bed to dream of shiny new spaceships  5) Today, I've speeded all the way home from work and pushed the kids off the computer and eagerly booted up EVE only to be told "hold up" 6) Now like other people are reporting on this thread - I've looked to see if there is Boot.ini file is on my C Drive, where it should be, and it's not........  7) So what is my next move?
Do I
a) Reboot and hope it keeps working or b) Create a new boot.ini file or (Other)?
Please help, my PC is stuffed with family photos and other irreplaceable stuff and yeah, yeah yeah, I know it should all be backed up, but it aint and I dont wanna lose it.
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agravator
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:03:00 -
[1240]
So is the patch now fixed or is this problem still there?
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ManofFace
Caldari K.O.R.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:04:00 -
[1241]
Originally by: Polinus
Originally by: Ailean Caldaire
Originally by: Kordesh Just a note, it's equally as outrageous to demand the firing and total disruption of some poor sap who misplaced a "/" somewhere amongst billions of lines of code. But then again, people are out for blood, and being sensible is out the window for most people right now.
It's not outrageous. This is a serious example of someone (or someones) not doing their job(s) and they should be punished. If a factory is producing sparkplugs for your car and a bunch come through faulty, and make it all the way out into cars, someone should be fired to take care of those who's cars didn't start. QA (quality assurance) is a big part of programming any major piece of software from a major company, which CCP is. It may be slightly outrageous to say "Oh, fire the programmer, hang him/shoot him/castrate him", but the QA guys/gals should definitely be given a severe going over and the department should be reworked.
It is CCP's responsibility to us as consumers to produce a product that is going to be safe to use, just as it is the responsibility of McDonald's to produce "safe" food. If McD's puts out burgers with E.Coli in them they get sued, so there should definitely be repercussions for CCP. That being said, the talk of lawsuits is quite premature. If CCP doesn't respond to this, sure..sue them to the best of your ability. FIRST, give them a change to respond and apologize for the damage they have caused. They have a lot of egg on their faces right now and I'd be willing to bet that there is a lot of finger pointing and name calling going on in Iceland right now.
Let them get this mess sorted out, make an official statement/response, then start talking lawsuits and reimbursement. For now, lets just get the problem fixed.
No! You completely wrong! And any company controlled in such way would be a disaster!
You do NEVER fire a good employee just because he made 1 mistake, doesn't matter how serious it was. Everyone makes mistakes from time to time. If he constantly did that type of stuff, then yes, firing would be reasonable.
Polinus,
I am not sure what kind of business experience you have in managing a development company but it's not that way in most corporate environments. Whoever is responsible is the party who gets the punishment and maybe also the manager of the department for letting a product get out that has not been fully checked.
I agree with Ailean Caldair in what he says as it won't do us any good to not give the company a chance to redeem themselves.
And if you wonder about my experience. I am an IT Administrator/Manager of a 1000+ employee company. So I think I have just A LITTLE bit of experience on this one. :) |

Ader
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Ader on 06/12/2007 19:05:15 Made another, anyone that wants to use it feel free to do so. I added the "fake" word so the most gullible ppl. dont get fooled.
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Iwishai Wazahero
Scrofulous Wealth Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:05:00 -
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Can I make a request please, Unfortunatly i've read a lot of this thread and i'd like to ask one thing of all those people that have "Destroyed your computer beyond repair , Lost data, lost the will to live etc"
Proof Or Stfu
I have a feeling a lot of you, (Notsaying all) fall into one of the following catagories.
Catagory A: I have corrected the problems that your crappy patch did to my boot.ini file and all is now working. However i'm going to ***** and cause drama on teh interweb to inflate me e-peen and enlarge the drama-bomb.
Catagory B: I didn't even download your patch till AFTER the error was corrected but i'm going to pretend I did anyway and goto teh forums, Lolz.
Catagory C: This catagory is for those unfortunate folks that TRULLY are computer illitirate, And if anything like my good old brother would have tried to resolve this problem by smacking the case repeatably with an appopiate tool (Hammer) .
YES, the error on CCP's part was a stupid one, but come on people, Who hasn't misstyped something while working or made a slight mistake. At the end of the day it's not the end of the world, and for those of you crying about your work pc being dead and the **** your in ! Why have games on your work pc ffs
Iwishai
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Cagot
Gallente Arcanus
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:06:00 -
[1244]
Running WinXP Pro sp2. I noticed it saying "Invalid boot.ini - booting from Windows" and didn't know what it was about until today's announcement, but it did boot.
I executed the instructions in this stickied Dev thread (following all the instructions) and it delivered -- no more error message on reboot! Good recover, CCP.
I must say I like the new skins, even though I only fly Gallente ships. I'm still sad about all the drone nerfing, but at least I can appreciate the beauty of my ships as they go down!
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Yoshi Horohito
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:06:00 -
[1245]
Petra see if you have a boot.ini.backup file somewhere and do what I said to do in my long post above yours......
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Voots
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:07:00 -
[1246]
A quick note, my boot.ini backup file was slightly different than the one quoted in this thread.
Mine also included the line "/noexecute=optin /fastdetect /usepmtimer"
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John McCreedy
Caldari Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:08:00 -
[1247]
You truly are a bunch of ******* muppets aren't you. 
Make a Difference
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petergriffen
Amarr Dufrene Holdings. INC
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:14:00 -
[1248]
Originally by: Iwishai Wazahero Can I make a request please, Unfortunatly i've read a lot of this thread and i'd like to ask one thing of all those people that have "Destroyed your computer beyond repair , Lost data, lost the will to live etc"
Proof Or Stfu
I have a feeling a lot of you, (Notsaying all) fall into one of the following catagories.
Catagory A: I have corrected the problems that your crappy patch did to my boot.ini file and all is now working. However i'm going to ***** and cause drama on teh interweb to inflate me e-peen and enlarge the drama-bomb.
Catagory B: I didn't even download your patch till AFTER the error was corrected but i'm going to pretend I did anyway and goto teh forums, Lolz.
Catagory C: This catagory is for those unfortunate folks that TRULLY are computer illitirate, And if anything like my good old brother would have tried to resolve this problem by smacking the case repeatably with an appopiate tool (Hammer) .
YES, the error on CCP's part was a stupid one, but come on people, Who hasn't misstyped something while working or made a slight mistake. At the end of the day it's not the end of the world, and for those of you crying about your work pc being dead and the **** your in ! Why have games on your work pc ffs
Iwishai
You left out one...
Category D: I have corrected the problem and realize it was a simple mistake on CCPs part. I hope that they can do a better job of catching this the next time. Meanwhile, I'm going to sit here and either try to help other people who are affected, point out the flaws of others who are either too stupid to read the instructions in the first two posts, or just want to flame away and threaten CCP with account cancellations and baseless class action lawsuits. Then I am going to laugh at them. Loudly. For weeks. Especially if they hose their own systems.
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NeoTheo
Caldari Species 5618 R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:14:00 -
[1249]
Originally by: Iwishai Wazahero
YES, the error on CCP's part was a stupid one, but come on people, Who hasn't misstyped something while working or made a slight mistake.
Iwishai
NO, JUST NO.
Sisi is there for a reason, someone reported this in a topic on the forums days previous. (admittedly i dont know if they /bugged it). Secondly they had been patching Sisi right upuntill the day they launched the patch.
EVERYONE on the test server was saying "this patch aint ready" (or at least a huge number of us), however ccp decided to "stick its head down and run at it" like a bull in a china shop, and OHHHHH look what happened.
i have been working in computing for 15 years, and whilst yes we all make mistakes, this smacks of lax testing proceedures, and total dissregard of any sort of proceedure in order to make a launchdate.
Trinity shouldnt have gone live yet, i knew that, ccp should have know that, and now the whole worlds computing press knows it.
shame really cause i love this game, but in all honesty, i am disgusted.
/Theo.
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Marcus Ailichi
Lonely Maple Prospecting Group
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:15:00 -
[1250]
Edited by: Marcus Ailichi on 06/12/2007 19:18:08
Originally by: NeoTheo
Originally by: Iwishai Wazahero
YES, the error on CCP's part was a stupid one, but come on people, Who hasn't misstyped something while working or made a slight mistake.
Iwishai
NO, JUST NO.
Sisi is there for a reason, someone reported this in a topic on the forums days previous. (admittedly i dont know if they /bugged it). Secondly they had been patching Sisi right upuntill the day they launched the patch.
EVERYONE on the test server was saying "this patch aint ready" (or at least a huge number of us), however ccp decided to "stick its head down and run at it" like a bull in a china shop, and OHHHHH look what happened.
i have been working in computing for 15 years, and whilst yes we all make mistakes, this smacks of lax testing proceedures, and total dissregard of any sort of proceedure in order to make a launchdate.
Trinity shouldnt have gone live yet, i knew that, ccp should have know that, and now the whole worlds computing press knows it.
shame really cause i love this game, but in all honesty, i am disgusted.
/Theo.
I have been working in computing for 60 years and I say you need to take it easy. How many bugs there are? Boot.ini, undocking and implants? Oh wow, 3 bugs in the most major addidion in EVE history, maybe even any MMO ever.
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Alex Oresmith
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:15:00 -
[1251]
Fix for the missing XP System Recovery CD
If, like me, you have an OEM machine with a computer maker like HP that is too cheap to supply you with a System Recovery CD, there is a way to work around this problem if you have a floppy disk installed. This link takes you to the microsoft web page for the files to download: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];310994
You will need 6 formatted floppy disks. I use SP2, so I selected the SP2 download. It worked for me, and allowed me to otherwise go in and use the other fixes involved in fixing the deleted boot.ini.
Now that my computer is back functioning, the next thing I will do is terminate, with EXTREME PREJUDICE, my Eve-Online account. I nearly lost my entire hard drive of irrecoverable family pictures due to this nonsense. I don't intend to take another chance with CCP. (And yes, I will also be getting backup dvices to make the backups I should have made of the photos and videos. This was a wake up call to the need to do that too.)
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TehMinerer
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:17:00 -
[1252]
Originally by: Marcus Ailichi I'm sure this has been suggested already, but rather than blaming CCP, how about blaming micrsoft for putting system critical text file in your root that is possible to be deleted.
Because Microsoft didn't delete files to ruin my computer.
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Elryth Poisonblade
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:17:00 -
[1253]
Ok, so I downloaded restarted don't have a boot.ini. Yes a very easy problem to fix but i have no xp cd here (at uni) and my desktop has no floppy and my laptop can't write cds. Any ideas? I have an external SATA hdd that i can link up to my laptop, and a usb hdd mp3 that can be used as mass storage.
Thanks in advance
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eveplayer11
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:17:00 -
[1254]
Hillmar, Oveur & rest please dont die of stress We love you.. |

Nicho Void
Hyper-Nova Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:18:00 -
[1255]
Originally by: eveplayer11 Hillmar, Oveur & rest please dont die of stress We love you..
This. Keep fighting the good fight.
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:18:00 -
[1256]
Originally by: Barakkus
yes
and since people aren't going to read a whole 50 pages of posts i'll just repost this again:
if you have this issue and can not boot to the point of being able to recreate the file youself see this article for instructions on how to recreate the boot.ini file via the recovery console from your windows xp cd.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/330184/en-us
this will recreate the file without having to try to figure it out youself
if you can can not boot from an XP cd, get a set of boot floppies made from a good installation of xp somewhere, then you can use a usb floppy to get a recovery console to repair your installation, but you will need access to a machine that has a working copy of xp installed on it
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/824632/en-us
I have just tried this fix above...i didn't get ver far.
'bootcfg /list - there are no boot entries to display 'bootcfg /rebuild - failed to succesfully scan the disks for windows instillations. This error may be caused by a corrupt file system, which would prevent bootcfg from succesfully scanning. Use chkdsk to detct an disk errors...'
so...what do i do next?? ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright |

Nerogk Shorn
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:19:00 -
[1257]
Originally by: Tango Sokolov Edited by: Tango Sokolov on 06/12/2007 08:04:24
Originally by: Tango Sokolov Here is why restarting your computer even with a nuked boot.ini works:
If you have edited nothing after your boot.ini was killed, and you restart, Windows will choke while trying to find the file and call to the backup. It replaces the file on it's own. I AM NOT SAYING GO RESTART YOUR COMPUTER.
I however, am on a boot camped MacBook Pro, and am now screwed. Very very screwed.
OKAY! I finally fixed the issue without having to go back a few days and delete a bunch of my new Illustrator work in the process.
FOR BOOT CAMP USERS:
Your boot.ini file should look like this:
[boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
Boot Camp makes an odd partition and I haven't figured out it's use, but that means it puts XP on the third partition. It also requires "/noexecute=optin".
This has been tested and works fine. Follow the normal instructions to creating a new boot.ini file and place the above text in the file instead. I hope this helps, I'm not sure how many Boot Camp users there are out there. This is also exactly like the Dell boot.ini, but with partition 3 instead of 2.
Ok, I run Boot Camp, on a Mac Book Pro, and sadly i also restarted my computer into this issue. How do i find out which version of Windows XP i have and will that matter for the boot.ini file. I am not sure if it is the professional version or not.
D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
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Lazarann
Ideal Machine
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:19:00 -
[1258]
Originally by: Nicho Void
Originally by: eveplayer11 Hillmar, Oveur & rest please dont die of stress We love you..
This. Keep fighting the good fight.
Agreed
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Da Ram
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:20:00 -
[1259]
WTF !?
No game has to access files outside its own directory and perhaps the windows folders.
If that error has been reported before even more WTF !
Wasted some time and effort here until I got my main PC running again.
More than just a "we apologize" is in order here.
Ram
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Jae FelSaen
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:20:00 -
[1260]
Alright, so while I seldom reboot, it's true you never know when the power might go out or somesuch...
I need some help please. I ran your fix because my boot.ini file was gone. It found a path for a boot partition so everything may be fine.
But before I write this off as a silly mistake and continue to enjoy this wonderful game let me make sure this is going to work with my setup. Before patching yesterday I had 2 drives and two operating systems. I originally installed windows XP on my c:/ and then later put in another hard drive and installed windows vista ultimate on that one. From that point on when I start up my computer it asks me to select my operating system from "Windows Vista" or "earlier version of windows" with a default on windows vista with a timeout of like 10 seconds. I rarely use vista *slight retch* and at the moment that hard drive isn't even plugged in. This tells me that when I installed vista it modified the boot.ini file on my c:/ to point it towards my other drive containing the primary partition.
I dont really care about my vista drive so I have two questions- will my system (after running your fix) now boot to win xp as the primary partition? and also if I run system restore will it reload my old boot.ini files and all will be as it was?
Thanks for your help! Don't get discourgaed CCP. Your game still kicks the sh!t outta WoW! <3 |
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