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Daedalus DuGalle
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.05.14 13:24:00 -
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How easy/difficult will it be to switch sides? As it stands, something along the lines of changing from Gallente to Caldari?
Or later on, how hard will it be to switch from one of the empire to a pirate faction?
I ask as I'm more interested in working for a pirate faction, but if it's too difficult to change, then I'll have to sit the first round of faction warfare out.
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.05.14 13:35:00 -
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I approve of this addition of caldari lowsec
I want to claim the region for Serpentis too , I hope the option will be there.
Originally by: Bloody Puppy because it's a good game because it's a good game because it's a good gameeeeee ccp gonna nerf it
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.05.14 13:36:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Verone
My thoughts exactly. Now I just wish that Derelik lowsec connected to Molden Heath lowsec and that Aridia didn't have two silly 0.5 systems on its lowsec pipe...
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Kayscha
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Posted - 2008.05.14 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tareen Kashaar
Originally by: CCP Lingorm You can sign up as an individual or you can sigh your entire corp up to fight for a faction.
As a posthumanist revolutionary who is opposed to all of the empires and wants to see them burn, why do I have to sign up for one faction? Can I not just sign up *against* a faction?
We don't want their goodwill and a pat on the back. We want their deprecated schemes of territorial control to fail. We strive to demonstrate that nothing can stand in the way of immortal free captains who are willing seize their own destiny. It would be utterly wrong for us to run to Momma Caldari or Pops Amarr for a wet handshake and a "well done, child", when they are the ones who at this stage of history should be looking up at us and see the sweet, addictive possibility of freedom.
Does that mean we're left out of factional warfare, then?
Well, for you there was always the option to just shoot at those oppressive sentry guns and have a field day. ;)
Where would you want to "sign up", anyway? I assume you will be able to sign up for the pirate factions as well at some point, but that's still "for" something. You, on the other side, propose what most would agree is simply terroristic fanaticism at its most destructive. You need no sign-up for that.
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CCP Ginger
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Posted - 2008.05.14 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tareen Kashaar
Originally by: CCP Lingorm You can sign up as an individual or you can sigh your entire corp up to fight for a faction.
As a posthumanist revolutionary who is opposed to all of the empires and wants to see them burn, why do I have to sign up for one faction? Can I not just sign up *against* a faction?
We don't want their goodwill and a pat on the back. We want their deprecated schemes of territorial control to fail. We strive to demonstrate that nothing can stand in the way of immortal free captains who are willing seize their own destiny. It would be utterly wrong for us to run to Momma Caldari or Pops Amarr for a wet handshake and a "well done, child", when they are the ones who at this stage of history should be looking up at us and see the sweet, addictive possibility of freedom.
Does that mean we're left out of factional warfare, then?
If you choose to not want their goodwill and not sign up then im afraid that is your choice, or a consequence of your choice at this time.
However, that is not to say you cant shoot at any faction warfare players so your not left out of factional warfare but, obviously, you have to take the consequences of those actions.
At least for this iteration of factional warfare im afraid.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.14 13:57:00 -
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Sounds nice so far, keep the infos coming
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Cheyenne Shadowborn You can swing the carrot of conquerable low sec systems or whatnot all day long, the basic thing remains: Some people just can't stand the thought of loosing expensive ships. Who seriously expects someone who barely has 200M on his account, which he mined or got from level 3 missions over, say, 3 months, to burn a HAC in low sec combat? And IIRC most people are in that cash range, NOT in the multi billion ISK range that a few lucky ones enjoy.
If that's all they have after 3 months then they are a hopeless case anyway. After 3 months they should be running L4s in which case they can pull down 10 to 20 mil an hour.
I'm not convinced that there are a huge number of total 'scaredycats' in Eve. I think that the biggest stumbling blocks are the logistics and practicalities of PvP at the moment. Things like:
* It's a PITA to get into 0.0 * When you get there it's a PITA to survive.. * ..unless you sign your freedom away with some corp/alliance. * Finding someone to fight in low-sec can take hours.. * ..and they are probably bait when you do find them.. * ..or else some innocent industrialist trying to mind his own business.. * ..in which case you get an annoying security hit.. * ..which you'll probably get anyway if you're fighting multiple targets and want to help your gang mates.
From what little I've read so far I think FW could be quite successful. It depends on how the targets are spawned/reset and how easy/practical it is for the solo player to get involved. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years)
[Brackley, UK]
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Lingorm Factional warfare is not just in Low-sec. It is just concentrated there.
If you sign up for a faction you can be attacked by anyone in opposing factions anywhere. it is that in low-sec we have marked out control points which will bring the combat to them making it easier for you to find and take part in.
You can sign up as an individual or you can sigh your entire corp up to fight for a faction.
Heh i guess the main hotspot for faction warfare will be Jita then At least we won't have a long way to travel to get in a new ship after we've been killed
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards
Originally by: Moncada Battlegrounds for eve.. Wow..
There's a system .3 off of Nourvakakien system in Citadel-lonetrek area. Where if you go to one of the moons in the system there is no tower but rather a deadspace area which is an "ancient battleground"
Though the rats suck. :)
That's probably because they are ancient. Give the poor buggers a break -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years)
[Brackley, UK]
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NeverL
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:12:00 -
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so can we(as in bob) take over jita now?
and on a serious note. what happens if one side is too dominating? how is ccp going to balance things out? __ We are not retreating - we are advancing in another direction - General Douglas MacArthur |
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Thebro Nobrunder
Schrodinger's Renegades
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Some of the options that have been looked at to 'move people' are Agent Quality degrades depending on use. Adding more agents. Having agents that move. Nothing has been decided but we are still looking at the issue.
now this is an interesting idea... agent quality would slowly improve over time, but deplete with use. (their petty cash runs out)
Another option would be "station missions". One time missions at a station. Would need some support for finding them however.
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Some of the options that have been looked at to 'move people' are Agent Quality degrades depending on use. Adding more agents. Having agents that move. Nothing has been decided but we are still looking at the issue.
Why not simply tie the agent quality to your corp or faction standing? That way all for example lvl 4 agents for caldari navy would give you the same reward based on your standings towards caldari navy or caldari state.
There are a ton of low quality lvl 4 agents that are hardly ever used.
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Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:25:00 -
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So now I can finally stop biting my tongue!
Black Rise is mapped in full in the EVE Strategic Map Book. (Shipping Today) (Incl. Relevant nearby systems from other regions and entries into Black Rise on other maps.)
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Lingorm Some of the options that have been looked at to 'move people' are Agent Quality degrades depending on use. Adding more agents. Having agents that move. Nothing has been decided but we are still looking at the issue.
Finally , dynamic agent quality \o/
Your time has come , Motsu grinders
Originally by: Bloody Puppy because it's a good game because it's a good game because it's a good gameeeeee ccp gonna nerf it
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DiaBlo UK
Precision Engineering Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tareen Kashaar
Originally by: CCP Lingorm You can sign up as an individual or you can sigh your entire corp up to fight for a faction.
As a posthumanist revolutionary who is opposed to all of the empires and wants to see them burn, why do I have to sign up for one faction? Can I not just sign up *against* a faction?
We don't want their goodwill and a pat on the back. We want their deprecated schemes of territorial control to fail. We strive to demonstrate that nothing can stand in the way of immortal free captains who are willing seize their own destiny. It would be utterly wrong for us to run to Momma Caldari or Pops Amarr for a wet handshake and a "well done, child", when they are the ones who at this stage of history should be looking up at us and see the sweet, addictive possibility of freedom.
Does that mean we're left out of factional warfare, then?
goto 0.0
there, you will find very few factions, and you can forge your own destiny.
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Ephemeral Waves
In terrorem
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:50:00 -
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What functional effect does sov change in high/low sec have on those of us who don't care about FW? I assume that the stations will still be owned by the same corps and the markets will still be the same?
Is this essentially just a sly way of adding pvp arenas that have no affect on the non-RP gamers?
The blog isn't specific as whether the sov changes are limited to low sec or if high sec stations can be conquered as well.
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Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Greyscale who here lives in Kador? Anyone?
I do, and tbh the population in Kador has been on the rise in the last year. --
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Wesley Baird
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.14 15:28:00 -
[78]
Will the pirate factions at some point be added to factional warfare?
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.05.14 15:32:00 -
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Can't wait to get the Scarab Lord & Grand Marshall titles on this toon too
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Admus
Multiverse Corporation Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.05.14 16:04:00 -
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So what happens if one race happens to be a favourite for folks to sign up with. Say, Amarr. Could this jacked up faction completely take all of the, say, minmatar regions? Annihilate them completely from the map? If so, is that OK?
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Ratata K
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Posted - 2008.05.14 16:10:00 -
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what i was wondering was that many corps have more than one race in often have all reaces in. how will this affect factional warfare. are they unable to join?
just that _____________________________________
-cheers-
Ratata K |
Vibora BR
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Posted - 2008.05.14 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Admus So what happens if one race happens to be a favourite for folks to sign up with. Say, Amarr. Could this jacked up faction completely take all of the, say, minmatar regions? Annihilate them completely from the map? If so, is that OK?
Good question!
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Ambani
Gallente Infinitus Morti R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.14 16:20:00 -
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I can see that you folks have not mentioned about station docking rights and so on - but the following would be nice:
- you can't dock in your opposing faction stations. - you have to have +ve standing to dock - this will ensure that there are no neut haulers supplying these stations.
will help develop a thriving industry around that area.
may be a restriction on ship types would be cool too - but is that asking for too much? :)
Meet Eve's most paranoid carebear - Ambani! |
J Valkor
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.05.14 16:23:00 -
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Conquerable targets in space are not at all like battlegrounds. Battlegrounds in WOW had absolutely zero effect on the game outside of individual player rewards.
Good job CCP.
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Lucy'Lastic
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.14 16:24:00 -
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Good stuff. Im looking forward to corps being formed who solely do faction warfare and recruit only pilots from same faction. Might encourage more rping.Which would add more immersion to eve as a whole.
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CCP Ginger
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Posted - 2008.05.14 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Wesley Baird Will the pirate factions at some point be added to factional warfare?
This is one of the ideas for future expansion to FW yes.
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Tareen Kashaar
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.14 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Ginger
Originally by: Tareen Kashaar ...
Does that mean we're left out of factional warfare, then?
If you choose to not want their goodwill and not sign up then im afraid that is your choice, or a consequence of your choice at this time.
However, that is not to say you cant shoot at any faction warfare players so your not left out of factional warfare but, obviously, you have to take the consequences of those actions.
At least for this iteration of factional warfare im afraid.
I was afraid that would be the answer, but thanks for the clarification. Now, this of course makes me wonder... were we to try and "liberate" a system of empire sovereignty, would that be possible? Or will it for example be a binary system, e.g. one solar system belongs to either Caldari or Gallente?
I understand that upcoming blogs will deal with the concrete mechanics, but as some food for thought... constraining these mechanics to certain restricted localized areas does not exactly strike me as logical, from the "EVE as a sandbox" point of view. In the same vein, neither does a binary sovereignty flipswitch. Influence, growing and diminishing, stems from more than just the NPC factions. Concerns that this might completely mess up planned and existing prime fiction could easily be amended by employing a GM "admin" team that maintains these dynamic objectives, deciding where and what is conquerable according to prime fiction. As is the spirit of EVE, however, it should always be the players that write their own history... Eh, nevermind the last part, can of worms.
Carry on with the good work. ____________
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CCP Greyscale
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Posted - 2008.05.14 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ambani I can see that you folks have not mentioned about station docking rights and so on - but the following would be nice:
- you can't dock in your opposing faction stations. - you have to have +ve standing to dock - this will ensure that there are no neut haulers supplying these stations.
will help develop a thriving industry around that area.
may be a restriction on ship types would be cool too - but is that asking for too much? :)
This is something we thought very seriously about implementing, but given the current distribution of stations and the amount of disruption it would cause we decided not to invest the significant resources it would require for the initial release. Once the system settles down we may revisit the issue.
With regards to pirate factions and so, the entire set of systems and services has been designed with extensibility in mind. As a result, adding new factions into the mix as and when it makes sense to do so should be a comparatively painless exercise. We've tried to achieve flexibility and extensibility in as many areas as possible, so it should give us a very strong base to build from in future
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Ammath
Amarr Mentis Fidelis R-I-P
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Posted - 2008.05.14 16:56:00 -
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So W-4NUU is going to be now a gateway to lowsec? So those of us holding Sov there are just going to get boned? Any compensation for this change given that it pretty much just opens up our whole area of 0.0 now to lowsec pirate dweebs?
CCP? Comment?
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Shanelle Vinci
Caldari Navy Reserves
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Posted - 2008.05.14 17:12:00 -
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With the amount of Caldari mission runners, what will prevent Hi-Sec from becoming a Caldari dominated sone, and FW to become Caldari blobfests? This is not an anti-caldari rant, just an honest question. (2 of my 3 chars is Caldari)
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