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EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
338
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:11:00 -
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Bozl1n wrote:Sirhan Blixt wrote:Bozl1n wrote:Andski wrote:92 dread hulls on the market, hmm Then build some? Your lack of self-awareness is breathtaking. You really think not being able to simply buy them from the market is a valid argument? Really?
Jesus wept. |

Natsumi Moritso
La Isla del Mono
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:12:00 -
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Make subcaps unable to target structures -> problem solved.
Supers shoulndt kill subcaps because its not their role. Subcaps shoulnd kill structures cause ITS NOT THEIR ROLE. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2693
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:12:00 -
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let's not forget that even if we could keep that up and pop 150 dreads out of the oven every other day, it'd tie up valuable component BPOs in the process that could instead be used for supercapital production "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

EI Digin
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
242
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:13:00 -
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Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolution. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2693
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:13:00 -
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Natsumi Moritso wrote:Make subcaps unable to target structures -> problem solved.
Supers shoulndt kill subcaps because its not their role. Subcaps shoulnd kill structures cause ITS NOT THEIR ROLE.
alright genius how do you suggest that high-sec/low-class WH pos shots take place "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
445
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:15:00 -
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Andski wrote:Natsumi Moritso wrote:Make subcaps unable to target structures -> problem solved.
Supers shoulndt kill subcaps because its not their role. Subcaps shoulnd kill structures cause ITS NOT THEIR ROLE. alright genius how do you suggest that high-sec/low-class WH pos shots take place
Lets focus on whats important here: What the CFC wants to be able to play.
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Bozl1n
Shiva Initiative Mercenaries
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:15:00 -
[1027] - Quote
EnderCapitalG wrote:Bozl1n wrote:Sirhan Blixt wrote:Bozl1n wrote:Andski wrote:92 dread hulls on the market, hmm Then build some? Your lack of self-awareness is breathtaking. You really think not being able to simply buy them from the market is a valid argument? Really? Jesus wept.
@ how little class your post has
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2693
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:16:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Andski wrote:Natsumi Moritso wrote:Make subcaps unable to target structures -> problem solved.
Supers shoulndt kill subcaps because its not their role. Subcaps shoulnd kill structures cause ITS NOT THEIR ROLE. alright genius how do you suggest that high-sec/low-class WH pos shots take place Lets focus on whats important here: What the CFC wants to be able to play.
Let's also focus on the total unfeasibility of your proposed "hurr drop 200 dreads erryday, titans die no pr0b" crap "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Bozl1n
Shiva Initiative Mercenaries
1
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:20:00 -
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Andski wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Andski wrote:Natsumi Moritso wrote:Make subcaps unable to target structures -> problem solved.
Supers shoulndt kill subcaps because its not their role. Subcaps shoulnd kill structures cause ITS NOT THEIR ROLE. alright genius how do you suggest that high-sec/low-class WH pos shots take place Lets focus on whats important here: What the CFC wants to be able to play. Let's also focus on the total unfeasibility of your proposed "hurr drop 200 dreads erryday, titans die no pr0b" crap
What ships are you guys going to kill?
Titans
What ships role ingame is to kill other caps?
Drakes?
Your NOT taking the right ships to fight?
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EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
338
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:20:00 -
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Bozl1n wrote:@ how little class your post has
Calling me a low class poster lmbo |

M1k3y Koontz
Taxes Suck Inc.
19
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:22:00 -
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Its this 52 pages of CFC trolling or are there actual posts too... I breezed through and it was more tha 50% Goonswarm/TEST
Anyway... I think 5mm scan res is a LITTLE too low, thats below the Primae, seriously? How much herp could a herp derp herp if a herp derp could herp derp. |

Bozl1n
Shiva Initiative Mercenaries
1
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:22:00 -
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EnderCapitalG wrote:Bozl1n wrote:@ how little class your post has
Calling me a low class poster lmbo
That post sucked it contributed nothing at all apart to flame = no class |

Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
578
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:23:00 -
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Would this change be happening if CFC were the ones with the super capitals?
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2696
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:23:00 -
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Bozl1n wrote:Andski wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Andski wrote:Natsumi Moritso wrote:Make subcaps unable to target structures -> problem solved.
Supers shoulndt kill subcaps because its not their role. Subcaps shoulnd kill structures cause ITS NOT THEIR ROLE. alright genius how do you suggest that high-sec/low-class WH pos shots take place Lets focus on whats important here: What the CFC wants to be able to play. Let's also focus on the total unfeasibility of your proposed "hurr drop 200 dreads erryday, titans die no pr0b" crap What ships are you guys going to kill? Titans What ships role ingame is to kill other caps? Drakes? Your NOT taking the right ships to fight?
hey take some time to consider the logistics of shitting out 150 dreads on a regular basis before posting dumb ideas!!!
here's a start: it's like building 19 supercarriers every other day
"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2696
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:24:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Would this change be happening if CFC were the ones with the super capitals?
According to PL, Raiden and NCdot they'd suck it up and take it in stride!
(ahahaha not really it'd have been nerfed long ago) "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:26:00 -
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M1k3y Koontz wrote:Its this 52 pages of CFC trolling or are there actual posts too... I breezed through and it was more tha 50% Goonswarm/TEST
Anyway... I think 5mm scan res is a LITTLE too low, thats below the Primae, seriously? Nah it's more like 50% Grath whining about how he's so oppressed. Vote for The Mittani http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=438 |

EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
338
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:26:00 -
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Bozl1n wrote:EnderCapitalG wrote:Bozl1n wrote:@ how little class your post has
Calling me a low class poster lmbo That post sucked it contributed nothing at all apart to flame = no class
So report it and move along.
PS You're one to talk~ |

Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
450
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:27:00 -
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SuperBeastie wrote:Grath do me a favor go through and list out the numbers of supers and titan the cfc has by alliance.
Top 5 supercap alliances in EVE:
PL (Nearly 400)
NCdot (281 on file)
AAA (280 on file)
RAIDEN (260 on file)
Goonswarm Federation (200 even on file but growing daily)
FA adds 40, RAZOR adds about 80, TEST adds 70, and those are just the major super cap holders for the CFC, the rest are 20-30 additions from their camp, with Eovke adding another 60 to Raidens team. |

Bilaz
Fremen Sietch DarkSide.
25
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:27:00 -
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5 is too low imo. I dont have problem with a few titans having tons of officer sensor boosters - that would deny them webs, painters and track comps. it still should be possible to shoot from titans to subcaps - but propper support should be on titan side for it to be effective. And i would give titans 4 targets - since unlike dread titan can vapourize one in an instant - so more targets in lock would be a good idea.
And you give us your word that this would be temp solution? becouse i would definatly like to see some extensive work done on all caps after all subcaps (and more importantly 0/0 space) would get some love. |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:28:00 -
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Grath is just mad that Goons have lower recruiting standards and turns morons into effective kamikaze pilots. He's also mad that the CFC managed to build themselves into an effective alliance in order to focus on shared goals.
PL just advertises themselves as a hit-n-run alliance and the nerf basically puts them out of commission. Off to World of Tanks or whatever is the next MMO fad they go. Don't let the door hit you in the a... on the way out. Vote for The Mittani http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=438 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2696
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:29:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:SuperBeastie wrote:Grath do me a favor go through and list out the numbers of supers and titan the cfc has by alliance. Top 5 supercap alliances in EVE: PL (Nearly 400) NCdot (281 on file) AAA (280 on file) RAIDEN (260 on file) Goonswarm Federation (200 even on file but growing daily) FA adds 40, RAZOR adds about 80, TEST adds 70, and those are just the major super cap holders for the CFC, the rest are 20-30 additions from their camp, with Eovke adding another 60 to Raidens team.
hey uh have you considered the fact that whenever Raiden's supercapital fleet is out doing things the better part of our super pilots are at work or at school, because lol US TZ? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
449
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:30:00 -
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Andski wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Would this change be happening if CFC were the ones with the super capitals? According to PL, Raiden and NCdot they'd suck it up and take it in stride! (ahahaha not really it'd have been nerfed long ago)
Hey there buddy, perhaps you'd like to refute actual history but we've fought those fights, without crying about it getting nerfed, you should ask the other people you play games with, you look pretty dumb right here.
Andski wrote:
hey take some time to consider the logistics of shitting out 150 dreads on a regular basis before posting dumb ideas!!!
We used 1 single build team, and it took us 10 days to **** out 140 dreads once the line was up and running.
Ten whole days.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2696
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:34:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Andski wrote:
hey take some time to consider the logistics of shitting out 150 dreads on a regular basis before posting dumb ideas!!!
We used 1 single build team, and it took us 10 days to **** out 140 dreads once the line was up and running. Ten whole days.
capital builders won't burn out from sustaining that for months, nope "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
338
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:34:00 -
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There goes Grath, madposting again. |

Mioelnir
Cataclysm Enterprises Ev0ke
56
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:35:00 -
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Kazanir wrote:There is no "counter" to 1200 dudes in a single engagement Bolded the important part. And since Sov warefare revolves ENTIRELY around single engagements against static objectives that scale linearly with the number of attackers, this is the only scenario that matters.
Quote:but given proper FCing, fleet doctrines (not bombers lol although bombers do own), and tactical choices, 200 or 300 dudes can do a lot of damage to 1200, and 600 or 700 might even win, or be able to accomplish their strategic objectives in some way. If "annoy the **** out of them" or "general harassment" are strategic objectives, yes. But you can not defend a timer under any of the circumstances you listed (you can theoretically rep the target before the other fleet arrives, but they can just "preload" the system to capacity 3 days in advance), nor can you take down a timer known to all involved parties.
Also, Greyscale, it is established doctrine from CCP over the last 5+ years to nerf any problematic ship into uselessness and having it stay that way for a couple of years until it can be "fixed". The usual way about this is that players simply stop flying the ship. How are titan pilots supposed to do that?
Is it really so problematic, for the two shipclasses that sacrifice character versatility and lock themselves into single roles like in theme-park MMOs, to not separate the removal of all current ship-roles (except pinata) and the defining of the new ship roles, by several months/years?
Also, nice half-truth about the target selection versatility of supercarriers, considering their dronebays were intentionally capped so low as they currently are to prevent them from fielding a single, full flight of both types. Nice propaganda spin.
PS: I will laugh so hard when in a couple of months people realize that supers will still be dropped, just by different people, who can then by weight of their then uncounterable numbers then field ANYTHING in immunity, again, like they did in the past. Then I will come along and repo all your tear jars, having the best laughs ever had. |

Sara Devi
ANZAC ALLIANCE Executive Outcomes
3
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:35:00 -
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Andski wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:SuperBeastie wrote:Grath do me a favor go through and list out the numbers of supers and titan the cfc has by alliance. Top 5 supercap alliances in EVE: PL (Nearly 400) NCdot (281 on file) AAA (280 on file) RAIDEN (260 on file) Goonswarm Federation (200 even on file but growing daily) FA adds 40, RAZOR adds about 80, TEST adds 70, and those are just the major super cap holders for the CFC, the rest are 20-30 additions from their camp, with Eovke adding another 60 to Raidens team. hey uh have you considered the fact that whenever Raiden's supercapital fleet is out doing things the better part of our super pilots are at work or at school, because lol US TZ?
That's a lie. We both know it.
To bring down supers you should have to engage them with some kind of force. I'm all for subcaps being able to tackle and hold down a fleet of supers and titans not being able to blap them. However, to kill them should require a capital fleet and an actual fight. |

School Nickname Worldmonkey
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:35:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:SuperBeastie wrote:Grath do me a favor go through and list out the numbers of supers and titan the cfc has by alliance. Top 5 supercap alliances in EVE: PL (Nearly 400) NCdot (281 on file) AAA (280 on file) RAIDEN (260 on file) Goonswarm Federation (200 even on file but growing daily because I desperately want to paint mean goonies as the badguys stealing my poor win button away... and and a bloo bloo bloo) FA adds 40, RAZOR adds about 80, TEST adds 70, and those are just the major super cap holders for the CFC, the rest are 20-30 additions from their camp, with Eovke adding another 60 to Raidens team.
Do you literally believe that goon supercapitals will not be affected by these changes? You people literally have to grow up, make a decision and move on over the loss of your k:d ratios. At least raiden have (kinda) shut up about the whole thing and have begun firesales.Your titans are still a very important ship for force projection and capital ship destruction. If push comes to shove your titans could go down a blaze of glorious violence against your perceived goon oppressors. |

Bozl1n
Shiva Initiative Mercenaries
2
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:37:00 -
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EnderCapitalG wrote:Bozl1n wrote:EnderCapitalG wrote:Bozl1n wrote:@ how little class your post has
Calling me a low class poster lmbo That post sucked it contributed nothing at all apart to flame = no class So report it and move along. PS You're one to talk~
No need to report it - dont think it bothers me
Sorry am i spoiling the smugathon? |

baltec1
807
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:38:00 -
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Mioelnir wrote:Kazanir wrote:There is no "counter" to 1200 dudes in a single engagement Bolded the important part. And since Sov warefare revolves ENTIRELY around single engagements against static objectives that scale linearly with the number of attackers, this is the only scenario that matters.
Because blobs of that size has never happened before in the history of EVE and been beaten time after time. |

SuperBeastie
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
55
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:38:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:SuperBeastie wrote:Grath do me a favor go through and list out the numbers of supers and titan the cfc has by alliance. Top 5 supercap alliances in EVE: PL (Nearly 400) NCdot (281 on file) AAA (280 on file) RAIDEN (260 on file) Goonswarm Federation (200 even on file but growing daily) FA adds 40, RAZOR adds about 80, TEST adds 70, and those are just the major super cap holders for the CFC, the rest are 20-30 additions from their camp, with Eovke adding another 60 to Raidens team.
so the cfc has 390 before you start bothering with the smaller alliances in the cfc. so if this sleeping ever grew the balls to actually get in a slugfest we would out number raiden and have full control of tidi and our subcap numbers would spike like mad when we broadcasted titan tackled get in fleet. |
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