Originally by: Red Desire

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Internet space ships is serious business, walking in a internet space ship game is kind of stupid.

So yes I don't like Ambulation because it's wasting resources, resources which should go in improving this game, which has so many parts broken. If I would want a character which could walk/emote/cyborz I would of played another game.


Now regarding lag, CCP had failed in 2 years to provide any real solution.
If CCP would had informed us that they can't do anything about lag and not dangle in front of us the "need for speed" many of us would had left.

Now we have "Infiniband", then we have " super computer" ...

This game is about destroying ships...if we can't do that, please tell us and we will let you go on with your walking,eating,drinking in stations.

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Originally by: Isilwen Nightfall

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I am indeed looking forward to the new The Sims expansion. It's called "Ambulation", i heard spaceships are going to be in it.

Jokes aside, i can't wait till fanfest :P

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Originally by: Guillight BLue

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Originally by: Red Desire

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Internet space ships is serious business, walking in a internet space ship game is kind of stupid.

So yes I don't like Ambulation because it's wasting resources, resources which should go in improving this game, which has so many parts broken. If I would want a character which could walk/emote/cyborz I would of played another game.


Now regarding lag, CCP had failed in 2 years to provide any real solution.
If CCP would had informed us that they can't do anything about lag and not dangle in front of us the "need for speed" many of us would had left.

Now we have "Infiniband", then we have " super computer" ...

This game is about destroying ships...if we can't do that, please tell us and we will let you go on with your walking,eating,drinking in stations.

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Ehmm I don't know how many times we need to repeat this!

The people working on 'Ambulation' is a completely different team then the original EVE dev team. The latter one is still the same and the same resources are still working on improving EVE itself!

The team working on 'Ambulation' are specilised in working on just that, so it would INDEED be a waste of resources if they had to be trained into working on EVE and thus also wasting time on those DEV's then busy training them.

Next to that, more DEV's in a team doesn't automatically improve the quality and amount of fixing! You can have just that many people working on the same code at once ;) Also something people fail to see nor comprehent!

L.E.A.R.N. to read all the articles about Ambulation first! Before bashing a feature you appearently know NOTHING about!

Second, they have stated so many times that Ambulation will be COMPLETELY OPTIONAL! Will run on a COMPLETELY SEPERATE environment! And thus NOT interfering with the Tranquility cluster itself and using her resources!

*SIGH* These anti-Ambulation threads become sillier each day

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Originally by: Veng3ance

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Edited by: Veng3ance on 14/07/2008 13:50:14
I never knew it was getting this bad (lag) because for the majority of the last year I have been a ganker / small gang warfare player. However, our corp joined up in FW and the lag has been horrendous!

Emergency warping and 10 minute grid load for 60 vs 60!!!!! 120 people, all brackets off and massive lag.

Made me want to quit the game.

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Originally by: CCP Atropos

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How about you wait till Fanfest to pass judgment? Perhaps, once you've actually seen it, you'll be able to comment on the quality and whether or not you like what you see, rather than just making assumptions about the end product, and the internal distribution of resources within CCP.

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Originally by: Taschenflak

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Edited by: Taschenflak on 14/07/2008 14:28:57
Who needs ambulation? I dont want to see my character pressing the station buttons from the 3rd perspective if i can it have it in 2d. It would be ike this --> http://www.theonion.com/content/video/warcraft_sequel_lets_gamers_play

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Originally by: Guillight BLue

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Ehmm I don't know how many times we need to repeat this!

The people working on 'Ambulation' is a completely different team then the original EVE dev team. The latter one is still the same and the same resources are still working on improving EVE itself!

The team working on 'Ambulation' are specilised in working on just that, so it would INDEED be a waste of resources if they had to be trained into working on EVE and thus also wasting time on those DEV's then busy training them.

Next to that, more DEV's in a team doesn't automatically improve the quality and amount of fixing! You can have just that many people working on the same code at once ;) Also something people fail to see nor comprehent!

L.E.A.R.N. to read all the articles about Ambulation first! Before bashing a feature you appearently know NOTHING about!

Second, they have stated so many times that Ambulation will be COMPLETELY OPTIONAL! Will run on a COMPLETELY SEPERATE environment! And thus NOT interfering with the Tranquility cluster itself and using her resources!

*SIGH* These anti-Ambulation threads become sillier each day

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Originally by: Red Desire

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Internet space ships is serious business, walking in a internet space ship game is kind of stupid.

So yes I don't like Ambulation because it's wasting resources, resources which should go in improving this game, which has so many parts broken. If I would want a character which could walk/emote/cyborz I would of played another game.


Now regarding lag, CCP had failed in 2 years to provide any real solution.
If CCP would had informed us that they can't do anything about lag and not dangle in front of us the "need for speed" many of us would had left.

Now we have "Infiniband", then we have " super computer" ...

This game is about destroying ships...if we can't do that, please tell us and we will let you go on with your walking,eating,drinking in stations.

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Originally by: Red Desire

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Originally by: Guillight BLue

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Ehmm I don't know how many times we need to repeat this!

The people working on 'Ambulation' is a completely different team then the original EVE dev team. The latter one is still the same and the same resources are still working on improving EVE itself!

The team working on 'Ambulation' are specilised in working on just that, so it would INDEED be a waste of resources if they had to be trained into working on EVE and thus also wasting time on those DEV's then busy training them.

Next to that, more DEV's in a team doesn't automatically improve the quality and amount of fixing! You can have just that many people working on the same code at once ;) Also something people fail to see nor comprehent!

L.E.A.R.N. to read all the articles about Ambulation first! Before bashing a feature you appearently know NOTHING about!

Second, they have stated so many times that Ambulation will be COMPLETELY OPTIONAL! Will run on a COMPLETELY SEPERATE environment! And thus NOT interfering with the Tranquility cluster itself and using her resources!

*SIGH* These anti-Ambulation threads become sillier each day

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You donÆt need to repeat anything, unless you want to look even stupider.
Resources is not taking an animator and move him to technical team.
Resources is basically money, every team has a budget.
The Ambulation team is eating lots of resources aka money, which could be used in different ways, from hiring more people to work on stringent part of the game, to buying outside experts in different technical fields or to buy hardware. (If they had a real QA department, they wouldnÆt of deleted the users ini files)

And this idiotic idea, that you can have too many peopleà like 2 programmers, one writes half line and then other continues to finish the line and they will mess up the work. In every IT project I worked there wasnÆt once when we had too much people, only too less.

So before posting some crap trying to think for yourself for a change.

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Originally by: CCP Atropos

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How about you wait till Fanfest to pass judgment? Perhaps, once you've actually seen it, you'll be able to comment on the quality and whether or not you like what you see, rather than just making assumptions about the end product, and the internal distribution of resources within CCP.

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Originally by: Tarminic

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I like how you can just say things and believe them to be true. "The sky is orange," "No ship has ever done a backflip," "eagles can't blink." Wow, this is pretty fun!

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Originally by: Karentaki

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I'm not certain of this, since I haven't been around for long enough, but as far as I know CCP have repeatedly 'fixed lag' as you put it. I seem to recall posts about a time when eve lagged badly if there were more than 50 people in a 0.0 system. They fixed this so that now you can have up to a few hundred per system before the node dies, but did this fix lag? NO! CCP don't create lag - Alliances who insist on following the policy of 'bigger is always better' when it comes to fleet blob warfare do. They are the ones who keep bringing more people to a system until the game becomes unplayable, and they should be the ones to 'fix lag'. I suggest if you have a problem with lag in 0.0 fleets blobs, then you send a nice message to the enemy, and your own, leadership, suggesting a limit of only 100 ships per side, and no titans. Please post back here and tell me how that works out for you

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Originally by: Ambien Torca

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You probably should play FPS games in tournaments for far better use of your time. Having lots of people in a fight is overrated anyway and current tech can¦t accomodate what you are asking for, not even close.

If all vets are leaving it just shows they are bored / done with the game which is completely natural. Forcing yourself to play a game that doesn¦t "do it" for you is not too far off from a behavior of an addict.

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Originally by: Dzajic

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To fix lag CCP has to:
move databases away from MS solutions,
make system more distributable, I dont think its possible to have more than one node working one grid, but at best, each heavily loaded grid in system being on separate node would be a huge improvement. (at this time you cant have more that one node working a entire solar system).

Those two would be max humane effort possible to fix lag. And are both a coding nightmares.

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Originally by: Nathan Baxter

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Whenever we have ambulation we need fishing also ... what's an MMORPG without fishing ... what could be better then mining for hours ... fishing for hours ...

Nathan

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Originally by: Xaen

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Originally by: CCP Atropos

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How about you wait till Fanfest to pass judgment? Perhaps, once you've actually seen it, you'll be able to comment on the quality and whether or not you like what you see, rather than just making assumptions about the end product, and the internal distribution of resources within CCP.

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A lot of us don't give a flying copulation about having avatars beyond portraits.

We signed up for a massive internet spaceship game and we want internet spaceships on a massive scale. Not hello kittay online.

I'm a two, pushing three year vet, and unsurprisingly, I'm with the OP.

I'd rather have broken things fixed and performance improved than ambulation.

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Originally by: Alpha Prime

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My last petition about the serverstability ended with the response
that in short said 'dont hold your breath'.

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