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Gaia Thorn
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:07:00 -
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So its finally happend the carebears have taken over eve.
Dev Blog
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Gaia Thorn
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:07:00 -
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So its finally happend the carebears have taken over eve.
Dev Blog
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Eran Laude
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:12:00 -
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I'm a carebear with claws but I'm not too sure how I feel about this blog. On the one hand, the inner mission runner and [shame]miner[/shame] says yes, but the latent and growing PvP part of my soul feels a disturbance in the force, as if a million pirates cried out at once . . . and were silenced . . .
At the very least the Goons should be given an exception so they can continue to fight their Jihads.
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Eran Laude
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:12:00 -
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I'm a carebear with claws but I'm not too sure how I feel about this blog. On the one hand, the inner mission runner and [shame]miner[/shame] says yes, but the latent and growing PvP part of my soul feels a disturbance in the force, as if a million pirates cried out at once . . . and were silenced . . .
At the very least the Goons should be given an exception so they can continue to fight their Jihads.
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MaDeX
Retribution Corp.
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:14:00 -
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Oh boy, this is it, from minnie nerf to this - wave goodbye to eve people.
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr Imperial Servants
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:14:00 -
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It hasn't made the carebears safe, just safer. Now all they need to do, is limit the freedom in starter corporations and it's a great change.
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MaDeX
Retribution Corp.
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:14:00 -
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Oh boy, this is it, from minnie nerf to this - wave goodbye to eve people.
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr Imperial Servants
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:14:00 -
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It hasn't made the carebears safe, just safer. Now all they need to do, is limit the freedom in starter corporations and it's a great change.
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr Imperial Servants
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: MaDeX Oh boy, this is it, from minnie nerf to this - wave goodbye to eve people.
I've heard that with every change that is made.. EvE is still here
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr Imperial Servants
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: MaDeX Oh boy, this is it, from minnie nerf to this - wave goodbye to eve people.
I've heard that with every change that is made.. EvE is still here
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Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Gaia Thorn So its finally happend the carebears have taken over eve.
Having a bit of a whinge?
-- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes. |
Gaia Thorn
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes It hasn't made the carebears safe, just safer. Now all they need to do, is limit the freedom in starter corporations and it's a great change.
Well why would you need to be safer ? Why is it always the pvp'ers way of life getting nerfed whilst the carebears roam around free with no need for adaptation ?
Why do the idiots need protection from the smarter in a game that is suppose to be a unforgiving harsh enviroment ?
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Gaia Thorn
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn
Originally by: Gaia Thorn So its finally happend the carebears have taken over eve.
Having a bit of a whinge?
Yes i am since this game is becoming less and less of pvp'ing and more and more of blobbing which its obvius this server cant handle .
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:25:00 -
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1) Faster concord repsonse = who cares. Won't change ganking industrials or T1 ships with tons of loot.
2) Sec status penalty increase = should be balanced. It is pretty damn easy to get -10 or go below -2.0. Tons of T1 fit caracals and stuff that don't hurt the enemy but only kill your sec status
3) Sec status based on Player vs Player sec status = who cares. Nice little change imo
4) Future removal of insurance from suicide ganks = WTF NO. HELL NO. --
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:26:00 -
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Quote:
We also changed the functionality and reduced the spawn. CONCORD now spawns in groups of 3 ships: 2 frigate sized vessels, which will lock the aggressor down in place, and a heavy hitting battleship to reduce his or her ship to metal scraps. The frigates will lock almost instantly while the battleship takes longer to lock, and the aggressor is made more aware of his or her impending doom.
While they may have made them arrive faster, it seems like they've also made it so that you can survive CONCORD a bit longer. Anyone else think it looks like this?
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Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Gaia Thorn
Originally by: Arthur Frayn
Originally by: Gaia Thorn So its finally happend the carebears have taken over eve.
Having a bit of a whinge?
Yes i am since this game is becoming less and less of pvp'ing and more and more of blobbing which its obvius this server cant handle .
lol wut
But seriously, if you're going to sit on your ass, refusing to find loopholes in the system like any respectable griefer will, then I have no sympathy.
-- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes. |
Leinad tir
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:28:00 -
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Originally by: Gaia Thorn So its finally happend the carebears have taken over eve.
Dev Blog
I dont have been living in high sec never but u must admit that suicide gank is a stupid idea(that gives profits ofc) and goes against the playability of the game, im ok with the carebears carebearing in high sec, let them there playing their own hello kitty online or declare war to some of them, suicide gank is moronic.
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Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gaia Thorn
Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes It hasn't made the carebears safe, just safer. Now all they need to do, is limit the freedom in starter corporations and it's a great change.
Well why would you need to be safer ? Why is it always the pvp'ers way of life getting nerfed whilst the carebears roam around free with no need for adaptation ?
Why do the idiots need protection from the smarter in a game that is suppose to be a unforgiving harsh enviroment ?
Maybe the devs decided they no longer wanted a game universe which is a step backwards from the 21st century, with a society where crimes like murder are effectively unpunished.
-- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes. |
Rhanna Khurin
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:32:00 -
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Crikey! CCP don't half make some controversial statements.
I wonder if we'll see a C&P whine similar to the nano one that's been plaguing general discussion recently.
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit 4) Future removal of insurance from suicide ganks = WTF NO. HELL NO.
Why? Why does it make sense that you should get an insurance payout?
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:34:00 -
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Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 06/08/2008 06:35:09 Real life comparisons are ****ing stupid
In EVE, CONCORD only polices Capsuleers. Capsuleers don't die when their ship gets blown up. It's actually robbery/vandalism, at worst.
Regardless, I think the changes might be a little harsh, although I don't see a -huge- issue with them. The comedy autopiloting T1 industrials with hundreds of millions in loot will still be a delicious treat for any ganker. Think it just makes gankers pick their targets a bit more.
Really the only problem is that now it's much, MUCH harder to gank missionships, removing the only real risk of hisec missions. Which is a problem that could be solved better with a mission nerf rather than suicide gankers.
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Gaia Thorn
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn
Originally by: Gaia Thorn
Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes It hasn't made the carebears safe, just safer. Now all they need to do, is limit the freedom in starter corporations and it's a great change.
Well why would you need to be safer ? Why is it always the pvp'ers way of life getting nerfed whilst the carebears roam around free with no need for adaptation ?
Why do the idiots need protection from the smarter in a game that is suppose to be a unforgiving harsh enviroment ?
Maybe the devs decided they no longer wanted a game universe which is a step backwards from the 21st century, with a society where crimes like murder are effectively unpunished.
Then maybe they shouldnt make quotes saying that this isnt a fluffy happy happy land. Which it is rapidly becoming.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Leinad tir suicide gank is moronic.
Filling your untanked t1 indy with hundreds of millions or even billions in cargo is moronic. Having someone scan out your fittings and cargo then blow you up to take them for themselves is an intended game mechanic thats fun and profitable.
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:36:00 -
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Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 06/08/2008 06:36:08
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Leinad tir suicide gank is moronic.
Filling your untanked t1 indy with hundreds of millions or even billions in cargo is moronic. Having someone scan out your fittings and cargo then blow you up to take them for themselves is an intended game mechanic thats fun and profitable.
Yet hundreds of millions of ISK worth of shit in an untanked t1 industrial will still be more than worth ganking. You're overreacting.
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Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gaia Thorn Then maybe they shouldnt make quotes saying that this isnt a fluffy happy happy land. Which it is rapidly becoming.
Feel free to rage-quit over it.
-- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes. |
Khamal Jolstien
Caldari The Monkey Sanctuary
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:42:00 -
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Wow... Just wow. I don't take part in suicide ganking, and even I think this is a step backwards for EVE. The Nano nerf was needed, but honestly? This is really starting to worry me.
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Gaia Thorn
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn
Originally by: Gaia Thorn Then maybe they shouldnt make quotes saying that this isnt a fluffy happy happy land. Which it is rapidly becoming.
Feel free to rage-quit over it.
Rage is overated. Leaving the game is quite possible actually.
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Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:42:00 -
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This wouldn't be so bad if they also reformed the wardec system because it's almost meaningless as it is.
One amusing consequence of this is that we can expect an increase in alt-ganking. Which means that smaller, less profitable targets will be selected. A.K.A: newer players.
Ah well, I'm getting the hell out of empire anyway. This makes CCP's vision of it clear. I wonder if they're under the impression that these changes will actually decrease the level of complaints about non-consensual PvP? Haven't they learned that the bigger the bones they throw that dog, the louder it whines for more?
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:45:00 -
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If you suicide gank someone, the security hit will be a bit higher. Other then that, it does not change much.
Why the emorage?
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 06/08/2008 06:36:08
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Leinad tir suicide gank is moronic.
Filling your untanked t1 indy with hundreds of millions or even billions in cargo is moronic. Having someone scan out your fittings and cargo then blow you up to take them for themselves is an intended game mechanic thats fun and profitable.
Yet hundreds of millions of ISK worth of shit in an untanked t1 industrial will still be more than worth ganking. You're overreacting.
Wat? I agree and am all for the changes and see little to no effect on 'legit' suicide gankers that take the time to stalk and set up thier prey for a takedown? This change will simply cut out the suicide ganks that are purely for the fun of getting a random killmail and lulzing at the miniscule loss of isk, standings and time to recover from it to get the emo thrill of causing someone a totally lopsided loss due to unbalanced game mechanics.
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