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Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gul Rashen Suicideganking in High Sec was too easy, there was no risk and the reward was too high. This will be balanced now and thats all. No Hello Kitty. The PVP in EVE, Low Sec, 0.0, War Decs..will be the same after the changes.
mission running is just full of risk.... Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gul Rashen Suicideganking in High Sec was too easy, there was no risk and the reward was too high. This will be balanced now and thats all. No Hello Kitty. The PVP in EVE, Low Sec, 0.0, War Decs..will be the same after the changes.
And when they nerf NPC corps, your little safe haven will be full of PvP too
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Karina Bellac
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:37:00 -
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CCP:
What happened to "Nowhere is 100% safe."? |
copasetic sideways
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Redback911 If you think PVP in EVE is about people looking for a fight, you are so so wrong.
look at my shocked little face!
pvp is where it's at, this i know - i just don't understand the mentality of the forum whining arschtards who insist that anyone they choose should be instantly accessible... it's nothing to get stressed about... move on, find anohter victim...
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: copasetic sideways
look at my shocked little face!
pvp is where it's at, this i know - i just don't understand the mentality of the forum whining arschtards who insist that anyone they choose should be instantly accessible... it's nothing to get stressed about... move on, find anohter victim...
Post with your main and I'll show you accessible.
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: copasetic sideways
Originally by: Redback911 If you think PVP in EVE is about people looking for a fight, you are so so wrong.
look at my shocked little face!
pvp is where it's at, this i know - i just don't understand the mentality of the forum whining arschtards who insist that anyone they choose should be instantly accessible... it's nothing to get stressed about... move on, find anohter victim...
If they undock they should be accessible. End of.
currently war decs are broken (corp hopping is legal) NPC corps are a complete safe haven for the lazy (those that cba to corp hop) Suicde ganking is the only recourse against smacktalking tardmonkeys. Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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Tharukan Desm'ar
Gallente The Ninth Circle Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:41:00 -
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Edited by: Tharukan Desm''ar on 06/08/2008 10:42:30 After reading the dev blog I actually don't see any problems in the proposed changes. Especially the insurance not paying out when concords involved. That never made any sense seeing a criminal get payouts after losing his ship committing an illegal action.
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copasetic sideways
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sorted wow - orgional...
not really, it's just a game of catchphrase: "saywhatyasee, mr chips"
Originally by: Sorted check the KBs if your interested.
i'm not - i'm sure your stats are as mighty as your mouth. no, really. no, no, really.
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Gul Rashen
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:42:00 -
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Edited by: Gul Rashen on 06/08/2008 10:43:48
Originally by: Sorted
Originally by: Gul Rashen Suicideganking in High Sec was too easy, there was no risk and the reward was too high. This will be balanced now and thats all. No Hello Kitty. The PVP in EVE, Low Sec, 0.0, War Decs..will be the same after the changes.
mission running is just full of risk....
Originally by: Ki An
Originally by: Gul Rashen Suicideganking in High Sec was too easy, there was no risk and the reward was too high. This will be balanced now and thats all. No Hello Kitty. The PVP in EVE, Low Sec, 0.0, War Decs..will be the same after the changes.
And when they nerf NPC corps, your little safe haven will be full of PvP too
First, i live in Low Sec and am a PvP'ler I only run Missions to pay my Accounts with ISK.
That Missions are too easy is different Problem. But its in my interest that many ppl play EVE and its ok for me that they play it in a different way than i do. For the Missionrunners pimping their Ships is one of their goals in EVE. And why not? I like Ganking and i like PVP, but i don't like ganking without any risk and possibility for the victim to protct himself.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Karina Bellac CCP:
What happened to "Nowhere is 100% safe."?
Still isn't. It's just "safe to an extent as intended"
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Gul Rashen First, i live in Low Sec and am a PvP'ler I only run Missions to pay my Accounts with ISK.
That Missions are too easy is different Problem. But its in my interest that many ppl play EVE and its ok for me that they play it in a different way than i do. For the Missionrunners pimping their Ships is one of their goals in EVE. And why not? I like Ganking and i like PVP, but i don't like ganking without any risk and possibility for the victim to protct himself.
Saying that gank victims have no possibility of protecting themselves makes it painfully obvious you don't PvP, so stop lying about that.
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copasetic sideways
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An Saying that gank victims have no possibility of protecting themselves makes it painfully obvious you don't PvP, so stop lying about that.
shhhh little children, the adults are talking
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:47:00 -
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Edited by: Ki An on 06/08/2008 10:47:06
Originally by: copasetic sideways
shhhh little children, the adults are talking
Post with your main, 08-boy.
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FDUSPYZOR
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:48:00 -
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Why didn't CCP just remove Cargo Scanners?
War Decs will be next I suppose.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:48:00 -
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Ahh, gankbear tears.
Can I have your stuff?
(Yea, I know I'm 5 pages late, but I just came back from a vacation, cut me some slack will ya)
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An
Originally by: Gul Rashen First, i live in Low Sec and am a PvP'ler I only run Missions to pay my Accounts with ISK.
That Missions are too easy is different Problem. But its in my interest that many ppl play EVE and its ok for me that they play it in a different way than i do. For the Missionrunners pimping their Ships is one of their goals in EVE. And why not? I like Ganking and i like PVP, but i don't like ganking without any risk and possibility for the victim to protct himself.
Saying that gank victims have no possibility of protecting themselves makes it painfully obvious you don't PvP, so stop lying about that.
The volume of suicide kills I have gotten from warping through that acceleration gate into a mission. watching the guy @45+K warp off, Warping to a close by planet myself and then back into the mission spot/gate only to see the guy land a few seconds later is staggering, but a fool and his isk are soon parted.
The runners have multiple ways to avoid suicde ganks, so too do the haulers.
in my experince most are too lazy or stupid to implement any of them tho.... Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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Belmarduk
Amarr de Prieure Four Elements
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:49:00 -
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"In addition, the highly requested feature of removal of insurance in CONCORD related events will be implemented in the near future."
This is good - Very good - As it should have been since the beginning, but not so sure about the rest... hm.
CCP Please give us casual players a Skill-Queue !
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Belmarduk "In addition, the highly requested feature of removal of insurance in CONCORD related events will be implemented in the near future."
This is good - Very good - As it should have been since the beginning, but not so sure about the rest... hm.
Bin all insurance and be done with it! Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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copasetic sideways
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An Post with your main, 08-boy.
i'm off to get a sandwich, you silly goose
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FDUSPYZOR
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An
Originally by: Gul Rashen Suicideganking in High Sec was too easy, there was no risk and the reward was too high. This will be balanced now and thats all. No Hello Kitty. The PVP in EVE, Low Sec, 0.0, War Decs..will be the same after the changes.
And when they nerf NPC corps, your little safe haven will be full of PvP too
You have no idea that NPC corps will be nerfed. Unless you have some proof that nobody else is aware of.
It's cleart that CCP want a safer Eve.
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Gul Rashen
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:52:00 -
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Edited by: Gul Rashen on 06/08/2008 10:55:48
Originally by: Ki An
Originally by: Gul Rashen First, i live in Low Sec and am a PvP'ler I only run Missions to pay my Accounts with ISK.
That Missions are too easy is different Problem. But its in my interest that many ppl play EVE and its ok for me that they play it in a different way than i do. For the Missionrunners pimping their Ships is one of their goals in EVE. And why not? I like Ganking and i like PVP, but i don't like ganking without any risk and possibility for the victim to protct himself.
Saying that gank victims have no possibility of protecting themselves makes it painfully obvious you don't PvP, so stop lying about that.
I talk about Suicideganking Missionrunners. What possibilities have they? Fly with cheap Fitting or stay on Station? Lol. And beware of saying that ppl are lying, when you don't know them. Thats not nice and kiddielike.
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: FDUSPYZOR
It's cleart that CCP want a safer Eve.
urmm.. hence the thread? Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: FDUSPYZOR
You have no idea that NPC corps will be nerfed. Unless you have some proof that nobody else is aware of.
Just a healthy dose of common sense. My faith in CCP abilities aren't all gone yet. They're just throwing a few bones to the bears to keep them occupied, and then the crank down comes.
Originally by: FDUSPYZOR
It's cleart that CCP want a safer Eve.
No.
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Belmarduk
Amarr de Prieure Four Elements
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sorted
Originally by: Belmarduk "In addition, the highly requested feature of removal of insurance in CONCORD related events will be implemented in the near future."
This is good - Very good - As it should have been since the beginning, but not so sure about the rest... hm.
Bin all insurance and be done with it!
/signed CCP Please give us casual players a Skill-Queue !
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Gul Rashen
I talk about Suicideganking Missionrunners. What possibilities have they? Fly with cheap Fitting or stay on Station? Lol. And beware of saying that ppl are lying you don't know. Thats not nice and kiddielike.
plenty of options for runners.
Drop a can at the warp in point, move 30k from the can. Fly aligned. Use an alt to watch the entry gate. undock using an off grid undock insta to avoid scans., set the scanner to 1m KM and tap it occasionaly
the list goes on.
L2P Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Volarius The cool kids live in 0.0 and lowsec anyways.
At least with these changes we'll have less bear whining.
Heh, you really think so?
Next up: war-decs.
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Gul Rashen
I talk about Suicideganking Missionrunners. What possibilities have they? Fly with cheap Fitting or stay on Station? Lol.
Again you demonstrate your lack of knowledge. It is this exact lack of knowledge that has led us to this situation. People are too ****ing stupid to examine the options they have.
I often haul through high sec. Do you know how many times I've been suicide ganked? Zero. Out of all the people I know (all of them fairly level headed, intelligent individuals), do you know how many of them have been suicide ganked? Zero. The reason is that we use the options available to us.
Originally by: Gul Rashen
And beware of saying that ppl are lying you don't know. Thats not nice and kiddielike.
Stop lying and I'll stop telling you to stop lying.
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Next up: war-decs.
what?? again?? lol they are already more impotent than a 90yr old man. Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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hedfunk
Caldari Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:58:00 -
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I suspect an avalanche of Low Sec Liberator posts! Where are you Skunk!?
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:58:00 -
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Quite a few different things have led to the current situation. For one, mineral prices have fallen significantly from the original 'base' levels on which insurance payouts are still based. There are so many competing people producing ships in central locations that prices are hovering only a few % above build costs. We also have faction ammo & heat, which, when combined, can give attackers a massive temporary advantage in the few seconds before CONCORD shows up.
Differentiating the penalties by sec status will not make much difference - a large fraction of suicide attacks already take place in 0.5 systems. The response time change will not make a great deal of difference except vs. freighters; most other targets are likely to go down in 1 volley anyway. Taking down a freighter is now going to cost about 750m isk (up from 150m).
I'd like to see some clarification of exactly which standings are supposed to affect the sec status penalties - is the standings between the characters concerned, their corporations/alliances, their sec status, or faction standings that will count?
The insurance change is going to annoy a lot of dual-boxers. Consider this scenario: raven + basilisk doing a level 4 mission. The raven accidentally does something to the basilisk, which is remote repping it, and dies to concord; the basilisk continues to repair it while it has a global criminal flag, and is also shot down by concord. Only now, no insurance payout is made for either ship, and the owner is down by about 200m isk.
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