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NeoTheo
Dark Materials
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Nogap toosmall .
Basically all that needed to be done was a removal of insurance for concorden and a stamping on of people that use alts for this kinda thing (cos thats kinda griefing)
this....
new system is lame.
Neotheo Dark Materials
Linkage
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Damares
Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:05:00 -
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Edited by: Damares on 06/08/2008 13:06:28 this change sucks, concord reaction time sped up ok, but worse sec status loss is stupid, and removing insurance from concord is **** too, people dont always get concorded on purpose you know >.>
oh, and time to get suicide ganking, all my carebear friends are gonna be spamming me now telling me how theyre awesome and that you should be a good neibour and all other kinds of heresey.
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Neesa Corrinne
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:06:00 -
[273]
Edited by: Neesa Corrinne on 06/08/2008 13:06:23
Originally by: Gaia Thorn Im saying this is a sandbox cause thats what CCP called it when they promote it !!
As for it not being my sandbox no its not but im sure as hell is paying for and have payed for the last 4 years.
And yes i can leave the game if it doesnt fit and im almost at that point where im actually considering it cause im getting less and less of pvp and more and more of blobbing.
And No i dont assume my sandbox to stay the same but it sure isnt fun to play in it if ive got a shovel with holes in it.
The ratio of highsec vs loand 0.0 has nothing todo with carebears cause i sure as hell have done pvp in highsec does that make one a carebear ?
And when CCP corrects a problem they use a hammer to fix what a screwdriver could have done leaving lesser of a mark.
I highly encourage you to try out a few other MMO's before actually quitting EVE. I recently left EVE to try PotBS (crap), Tabula Rasa (crap) and Age of Conan (mega crap), and I have to say that even with a few glaring faults, EVE is so much better than the alternatives.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:09:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 06/08/2008 13:11:31 It should be a *LOT* harder to regain security status. Being able to go from -10 to -2 in under a day is absolutely ridiculous. The game is anything but harsh for pies.
Compare it to raising faction standing from -10 to -2. I'd like to see you do that in 24h. Not to mention some faction groups have points of no return, where it's just plain impossible no matter what you do.
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Neesa Corrinne I highly encourage you to try out a few other MMO's before actually quitting EVE. I recently left EVE to try PotBS (crap), Tabula Rasa (crap) and Age of Conan (mega crap), and I have to say that even with a few glaring faults, EVE is so much better than the alternatives.
This is true, and that's why CCP figures they can get away with this kind of crap. The only ones who can believably threaten to quit the game are the WoW-crowd.
CCP, stop taking us for ****ing granted!
*emo*
Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
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heheheh
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:11:00 -
[276]
Originally by: Kelli Flay
Originally by: Gaia Thorn
Originally by: Kelli Flay
Hello idiot. This is to inform you that you have had what you wanted for what?.....four years now?
I am not seeing the "short end of the stick." I am seeing a shortage of brain cells on your part though. Lot of whining too.
Adapt noob.
Then why havent u managed to adapt during four frekkin years ? Is it that hard to not afk haul 2 billion + in cargo in a T1 hauler through 0.5 systems ?
Next time check that your brain is connected before you engage your mouth.
I wouldn't know, I never been ganked that way.
Doesn't stop me from recognizing you as being a total idiot though.
stop the crappy abuse and post something decent or stfu
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Lorna Loot
Caldari Nox Eternus
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:11:00 -
[277]
Testing my new sig ----------
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Fron Arran
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:12:00 -
[278]
Ganker Tears are the sweetest.
Your stuff plz.
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Neesa Corrinne
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon It should be a *LOT* harder to regain security status. Being able to go from -10 to -2 in under a day is absolutely ridiculous. The game is anything but harsh for pies.
Compare it to raising faction standing from -10 to -2. I'd like to see you do that in 24h.
Committing to -5 or below is an EVE altering event that few pies take lightly.
Most people who drop below -8 have no intentions of regaining sec status at any point in the future. Living in low sec / 0.0 is fairly easy with a hauler alt.
I don't really see it as necessary to change how quickly sec status can be gained in 0.0... it at least encourages a few more people to actually go to 0.0. Which is a good thing.
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: hedfunk
Originally by: Neesa Corrinne This doesn't change squat, and it hardly spells doom for EVE.
Even -10.0 sec status individuals can simply go rat in 0.0 for a few hours and be back to positive standings.
Yes, because you can rat from -10 back up to -1.9 in 'a few hours'.
rofl some people shouldnt be allowed to post such crap
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Michayel Lyon
Hematite Rose Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:16:00 -
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"Oh my god!!! I can no longer suicide gank and get all my money back (insurance = ship cost + insurance cost) before even checking the wreck!!! I will have to work to make suicide ganking profitable!!! This is becoming a carebear game!!!"
Yeah, right... Adapt or die.
(No, I don't live in empire. No, I'm not a carebear.) --- Lasiverin Dark > Is everyone here allied? Red Knight > we are allied by our zombie like ability to ***** missions
GM Xamother: "Beeing online is not considered harassment or exploit." |
heheheh
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:24:00 -
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I must admit this is quite shit, This game was supposed to be PVP based now its just benders building up their personal empire of Pixels and saying stuff like "Time is Money" bullcrap.
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Brugar
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Zaqar
Originally by: Vaal Erit 4) Future removal of insurance from suicide ganks = WTF NO. HELL NO.
Why? Why does it make sense that you should get an insurance payout?
Why shouldn't I get a payout. I can self-destruct my ship and get payout and suicide it into camps in 0.0. Empire corps don't trust 0.0 alliances so they shouldn't be giving out payouts to those people. Hell, if I am -10.0, they KNOW I am going to pirate in it and kill other pod-pilots so I shouldn't get insurance either.
It doesn't make sense with how EVE is made ingame and it doesn't make sense to only nerf one playstyle (suiciding) in regards to insurance. Insurance is for everyone and I can do anything, that's called sandbox gameplay that is advertised by CCP. I understand that a sandbox has rules, but insurance is one of those very basic rules that applies to everyone evenly. How about new rule: if you shoot at another player, your skill stops training for an hour.
No insurance company today or ever, does or will, pay out when an illegal activity is committed. By Concord being involved, it proves it is an illegal activity.
You think that just because this is a game, there isn't to be an intellegence or realismn of some sort?
Please.
It's about time this happens. Never made sense to actually make a profit on this.
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Digital Solaris
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:27:00 -
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As long as CCP classify running from concord as a exploit, EVE will always be a carebear game.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Brugar No insurance company today or ever, does or will, pay out when an illegal activity is committed. By Concord being involved, it proves it is an illegal activity.
You think that just because this is a game, there isn't to be an intellegence or realismn of some sort?
To this, I can now finally say, see sig. -
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
Committing to -5 or below is an EVE altering event that few pies take lightly.
?? But there is no commitment. As you yourself said, you can eliminate your criminal record in a few hours. (Unlike committing to a faction group, and thus against another, which takes ages to fix and is in some cases impossible.)
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Kelli Flay
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Hawkings
Originally by: Kelli Flay
Originally by: heheheh
Originally by: Kelli Flay
Originally by: Gaia Thorn
Originally by: Kelli Flay
Hello idiot. This is to inform you that you have had what you wanted for what?.....four years now?
I am not seeing the "short end of the stick." I am seeing a shortage of brain cells on your part though. Lot of whining too.
Adapt noob.
Then why havent u managed to adapt during four frekkin years ? Is it that hard to not afk haul 2 billion + in cargo in a T1 hauler through 0.5 systems ?
Next time check that your brain is connected before you engage your mouth.
I wouldn't know, I never been ganked that way.
Doesn't stop me from recognizing you as being a total idiot though.
stop the crappy abuse and post something decent or stfu
Like what you just posted is so useful.
Leave the basement and take a shower once in awhile tbh.
yea yea very funny but your still posting abuse, im betting you were bummed by your dad as a child.
Your mother joined in and made it a three way tbh.
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Gaia Thorn
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon
Originally by: Gaia Thorn
And yes i can leave the game if it doesnt fit and im almost at that point where im actually considering it cause im getting less and less of pvp and more and more of blobbing.
Bye.
So can I have your stuff then?
Sigh cant you atleast put it in some funny form cause thats just a waste of space.
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Steve Hawkings on 06/08/2008 13:34:31 I Give up arguing with abused kids, its not on and i apologise for tormenting the less fortunate
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Lorna Loot
Caldari Nox Eternus
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:31:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Qui Shon
Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
Committing to -5 or below is an EVE altering event that few pies take lightly.
?? But there is no commitment. As you yourself said, you can eliminate your criminal record in a few hours. (Unlike committing to a faction group, and thus against another, which takes ages to fix and is in some cases impossible.)
Tell that to the people who grind for days on end farming a 0.0 system to get some sec back so they can actually get to where 90% of the population play so they can try and make some money....... ----------
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Brugar
Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Zaqar
Originally by: Vaal Erit 4) Future removal of insurance from suicide ganks = WTF NO. HELL NO.
Why? Why does it make sense that you should get an insurance payout?
Why shouldn't I get a payout. I can self-destruct my ship and get payout and suicide it into camps in 0.0. Empire corps don't trust 0.0 alliances so they shouldn't be giving out payouts to those people. Hell, if I am -10.0, they KNOW I am going to pirate in it and kill other pod-pilots so I shouldn't get insurance either.
It doesn't make sense with how EVE is made ingame and it doesn't make sense to only nerf one playstyle (suiciding) in regards to insurance. Insurance is for everyone and I can do anything, that's called sandbox gameplay that is advertised by CCP. I understand that a sandbox has rules, but insurance is one of those very basic rules that applies to everyone evenly. How about new rule: if you shoot at another player, your skill stops training for an hour.
No insurance company today or ever, does or will, pay out when an illegal activity is committed. By Concord being involved, it proves it is an illegal activity.
You think that just because this is a game, there isn't to be an intellegence or realismn of some sort?
Please.
It's about time this happens. Never made sense to actually make a profit on this.
RL referneces ftw, insurance companies shouldnt insure you for low sec or 0.0 or misson etcs who'd insure u in a warzone etc. Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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Neesa Corrinne
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon
Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
Committing to -5 or below is an EVE altering event that few pies take lightly.
?? But there is no commitment. As you yourself said, you can eliminate your criminal record in a few hours. (Unlike committing to a faction group, and thus against another, which takes ages to fix and is in some cases impossible.)
Ok, you took the mechanics of what I said in two separate instances and made whole cloth out of it.
Yes, it is quite easy to repair lost sec status.
However! People who drop below -8 or lower have made a conscious decision to live a lifestyle of piracy and don't really care to repair their sec status at any point.
Now there will be a few exceptions to this rule, but for the most part I see the same people over and over again for several years now who have never left -9.9 status and don't intend to.
Therefore, I don't see any need to make it harder to gain sec status in 0.0. There are far more pressing issues to be hammered out at the moment.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gaia Thorn
Sigh cant you atleast put it in some funny form cause thats just a waste of space.
No, because then it would obscure the point, which is that I'm mimicking griefer posting templates.
Now please cry some more.
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Kelli Flay
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Hawkings
Originally by: Kelli Flay
Originally by: Steve Hawkings
Originally by: Kelli Flay
Originally by: heheheh
Originally by: Kelli Flay
Originally by: Gaia Thorn
Originally by: Kelli Flay
Hello idiot. This is to inform you that you have had what you wanted for what?.....four years now?
I am not seeing the "short end of the stick." I am seeing a shortage of brain cells on your part though. Lot of whining too.
Adapt noob.
Then why havent u managed to adapt during four frekkin years ? Is it that hard to not afk haul 2 billion + in cargo in a T1 hauler through 0.5 systems ?
Next time check that your brain is connected before you engage your mouth.
I wouldn't know, I never been ganked that way.
Doesn't stop me from recognizing you as being a total idiot though.
stop the crappy abuse and post something decent or stfu
Like what you just posted is so useful.
Leave the basement and take a shower once in awhile tbh.
yea yea very funny but your still posting abuse, im betting you were bummed by your dad as a child.
Your mother joined in and made it a three way tbh.
ahh still there ? Mabye if you hadnt had your arse busted when you were about 10 you might actually be able to be nice to people instead of letting all you frustration out on a forum board, grow some balls, get out of your bedroom.
Yes I should follow your example of what a "nice person" is. I seriously hope you are this much of a failure in real life society.
You seem to have an obsession with my arse as well.
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Brugar
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:39:00 -
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Edited by: Brugar on 06/08/2008 13:39:17
Originally by: Sorted
RL referneces ftw, insurance companies shouldnt insure you for low sec or 0.0 or misson etcs who'd insure u in a warzone etc.
Keep talkin' you're only giving them more ideas.
But seriously, I know it is a real world mechanic in a game, but it still doesn't take away from the fact that this is just unheard of for anyone, fictional or real. Whether it is real life or fictional, making a profit off of suicide ganking just doesn't sound right.
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kelli Flay
Originally by: Steve Hawkings
Originally by: Kelli Flay
Originally by: Steve Hawkings
Originally by: Kelli Flay
Originally by: heheheh
Originally by: Kelli Flay
Originally by: Gaia Thorn
Originally by: Kelli Flay
Hello idiot. This is to inform you that you have had what you wanted for what?.....four years now?
I am not seeing the "short end of the stick." I am seeing a shortage of brain cells on your part though. Lot of whining too.
Adapt noob.
Then why havent u managed to adapt during four frekkin years ? Is it that hard to not afk haul 2 billion + in cargo in a T1 hauler through 0.5 systems ?
Next time check that your brain is connected before you engage your mouth.
I wouldn't know, I never been ganked that way.
Doesn't stop me from recognizing you as being a total idiot though.
stop the crappy abuse and post something decent or stfu
Like what you just posted is so useful.
Leave the basement and take a shower once in awhile tbh.
yea yea very funny but your still posting abuse, im betting you were bummed by your dad as a child.
Your mother joined in and made it a three way tbh.
ahh still there ? Mabye if you hadnt had your arse busted when you were about 10 you might actually be able to be nice to people instead of letting all you frustration out on a forum board, grow some balls, get out of your bedroom.
Yes I should follow your example of what a "nice person" is. I seriously hope you are this much of a failure in real life society.
You seem to have an obsession with my arse as well.
Read up, I decided that arguing with children was not on i apologize.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Lorna Loot
Tell that to the people who grind for days on end farming a 0.0 system to get some sec back so they can actually get to where 90% of the population play so they can try and make some money.......
Can I instead tell them that they suck and should go play something easier, like maybe something on the wii?
You know, just to keep mirroring a very common style of posting on these here forums.
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Jazlina
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:43:00 -
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Edited by: Jazlina on 06/08/2008 13:43:29 I want to start my saying that I have never been effected either way. Neither ganked nor been ganked. But I have pvped and 0.0 ratted so I know what this is all about. I agree with the changes. They are logical and repair a game mechanic that has been faulty. Remember that not much has changed. You can still attack and kill people in high sec, the consequences are just more steep now. After all, isnt that what pirates are all about, consequences?
What is the first thing a pirate tells you when you get ganked in low sec. He lectures you on consequences for entering low sec doesnt he? When you get gate camped? More consequences. Well now the situation is turned around and the pirates are facing "consequences" and they dont like it anymore than the guy who just got gate camped. Well that is eve. In eve concord provides consequences, not safety. That hasnt changed at all. You can still attack anyone, anywhere ( far more generous than any other mmo I can think of, they all have absolute safe zones) So please all you gankers out there that will have to actually work for your money, get up off your lazy butts and do something productive for a change.
Now that that is out of the way i can say this. ROFL at pirate gankers for getting some poetic justice.
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Aarin Wrath
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon
Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
Committing to -5 or below is an EVE altering event that few pies take lightly.
?? But there is no commitment. As you yourself said, you can eliminate your criminal record in a few hours. (Unlike committing to a faction group, and thus against another, which takes ages to fix and is in some cases impossible.)
Spoken as sombody who has actually had to grind sec status, its frikkin painful.
So no your wrong. I went down to -2 a while back and it took forever just to get back to -1.5.
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Kelli Flay
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jazlina Edited by: Jazlina on 06/08/2008 13:43:29 I want to start my saying that I have never been effected either way. Neither ganked nor been ganked. But I have pvped and 0.0 ratted so I know what this is all about. I agree with the changes. They are logical and repair a game mechanic that has been faulty. Remember that not much has changed. You can still attack and kill people in high sec, the consequences are just more steep now. After all, isnt that what pirates are all about, consequences?
What is the first thing a pirate tells you when you get ganked in low sec. He lectures you on consequences for entering low sec doesnt he? When you get gate camped? More consequences. Well now the situation is turned around and the pirates are facing "consequences" and they dont like it anymore than the guy who just got gate camped. Well that is eve. In eve concord provides consequences, not safety. That hasnt changed at all. You can still attack anyone, anywhere ( far more generous than any other mmo I can think of, they all have absolute safe zones) So please all you gankers out there that will have to actually work for your money, get up off your lazy butts and do something productive for a change.
Now that that is out of the way i can say this. ROFL at pirate gankers for getting some poetic justice.
Yeah but you can't explain that to these little crybabies. If anything is changed against the way they play the game, it is CCP "betraying" them because the game is only suppose to be "harsh" when it applies to their victims.
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