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Kash Ka
Amarr Point of No Return Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:29:00 -
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I dont like the idea that if u get killed by CONCORD u wont get ur insurance, what if u accidentally shoot something ur not ment to but didnt know it? Or u accidentally shoot ur out of corp buddy instead of repairing him/her ect. Not cool CCP iv never suicide ganked, um successfully, but the ammount of ships if lost to CONCORD is rediculouse because of locking the wrong thing then shooting and not relising until i see a blob of CONCORD shooting me, followed by an explosion and me thinking wtf.
Oh and sometimes people with a negative sec stat might accidentally jump into a system that there not alowed to enter without relising it then loose there ship. Iv done that a few times cause the system im ment to go to had a similar name to one i cant enter i.e malakalen and kalkalen or something like that. --------------==============================-------------- Forgiveness is between you and god, im just here to arrange the meeting. |
Alex Harumichi
Gallente Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: ramzahn The griefers are grieving?
Really?
Yeah, the amount of Pandemic Whineage in the devblog thread is quite awesome. Sweet music to my ears.
So highsec ganking will actually need some brains and planning now? The horror.
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copasetic sideways
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:30:00 -
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all the gloaters in this thread need to shut the hell up, else your low sec will be liberated and ki an will probably stick his little underwear-sniffing face in too....
sorry if this sounds like an episode of judging amy... oh wait, this *is* an episode of judging amy
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Delichon
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:30:00 -
[184]
Join 0.0 No Concord there! Free PVP! No sec hit!
You can get ... ehem... killed though... ------------------------------------------ All nerfs are meant to hurt you personally. They will be nerfing you directly next.
EVE A new game every 6 months. (c) Atomos Darksun |
Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon Edited by: Qui Shon on 06/08/2008 11:22:10
Originally by: Serj
Also you seem pretty fond of the sound your keyboard make
Actually, I found this bog standard Dell OEM keyboard in a pile of unused stuff at work, and it has the most delightful feel and a nice sound too. I now like it more then any of the "pro" keyboards I've used over the years.
Hmm, have to post some more I think.
is this your main copasetic sideways.. is it? did you press the wrong button? SWEEEET. Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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Gaia Thorn
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Stab Wounds Edited by: Stab Wounds on 06/08/2008 11:27:34 hahah grievers had this coming for a long time. maybe you grievers in this thread should try fighting people that can fight back? first the nano-nerf and this. This game is turning out quite well.
Adapt or die losers.
Yeah since u seem unable to adapt the rest of eve will have to suffer. As fight people who can fight back, you can fight back but apperntly u lack the ability to fight back so we need to fall down to your level of stupidity.
Thank you for that one.
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Furb Killer
Gallente The first genesis Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 06/08/2008 11:34:07
Originally by: Kash Ka I dont like the idea that if u get killed by CONCORD u wont get ur insurance, what if u accidentally shoot something ur not ment to but didnt know it? Or u accidentally shoot ur out of corp buddy instead of repairing him/her ect. Not cool CCP iv never suicide ganked, um successfully, but the ammount of ships if lost to CONCORD is rediculouse because of locking the wrong thing then shooting and not relising until i see a blob of CONCORD shooting me, followed by an explosion and me thinking wtf.
Oh and sometimes people with a negative sec stat might accidentally jump into a system that there not alowed to enter without relising it then loose there ship. Iv done that a few times cause the system im ment to go to had a similar name to one i cant enter i.e malakalen and kalkalen or something like that.
There are those nice warning messages that warn you when you are doing something stupid. Use them. (and no you cant disable warning message you are shooting neutral in high sec).
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: copasetic sideways all the gloaters in this thread need to shut the hell up, else your low sec will be liberated and ki an will probably stick his little underwear-sniffing face in too....
sorry if this sounds like an episode of judging amy... oh wait, this *is* an episode of judging amy
I'm the childish one.
Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
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Hungo
Minmatar Nightfallz
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Gaia Thorn So its finally happend the carebears have taken over eve.
Dev Blog
Noty everyone likes to fly around killing other pklayers u silly little fool, we deserve righst to play as we see fiot, whetehr u agree or not
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:36:00 -
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And another change to make Eve more idiotproof.
Congrats. What's next? A ban on scamming and griefing people with wardecs?
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Malachon Draco And another change to make Eve more idiotproof.
Congrats. What's next? A ban on scamming and griefing people with wardecs?
Ya cant grief with war decs. they just hop corp..... Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Hungo
Originally by: Gaia Thorn So its finally happend the carebears have taken over eve.
Dev Blog
Noty everyone likes to fly around killing other pklayers u silly little fool, we deserve righst to play as we see fiot, whetehr u agree or not
Stop trolling. This is a serious discussion.
Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
Warped Mining
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:39:00 -
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so suicide ganking will have more penalties now and not be as carefree and there not as loved by griefers because it actually makes you KOS faster, and harder to regain that sec... boo hoo.
C.E.O.
Go Hard, or go Home.
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copasetic sideways
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sorted is this your main copasetic sideways.. is it? did you press the wrong button? SWEEEET.
confirming i am da alt in da op... uuuuhh.... yea, if that's what puts the beef in your curtains, baby....
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Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Stab Wounds Edited by: Stab Wounds on 06/08/2008 11:27:34 hahah grievers had this coming for a long time. maybe you grievers in this thread should try fighting people that can fight back? first the nano-nerf and this. This game is turning out quite well.
Adapt or die losers.
Maybe you should try fighting back instead of whining for protection from CCP.
Cry or fail, loser.
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver so suicide ganking will have more penalties now and not be as carefree and there not as loved by griefers because it actually makes you KOS faster, and harder to regain that sec... boo hoo.
Its the standard over nerf,
Privs> 250 wars down to 4 Nano> lol 75% nerf on ma mach Ganking> need double the firepower, 60x the cost. increase in number in the loot split. Puts the "target" over 4Billion in fits to be viable. Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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copasetic sideways
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis Maybe you should try fighting back instead of whining for protection from CCP.
the beautiful thing is - they're getting protection and there's not a gosh darned thing you can do about it other than vent hot hot air on the forums.
open wide, time for another spoonful.
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Granmethedon III
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:44:00 -
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What a terrible, terrible proposal.
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Higgs Foton
Scoopex Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:44:00 -
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I don't think these changes are bad, though suicide ganking was a great weapon against the ISK farmers, and that goes away now. Unless you indeed force people out of the NPC corps after a few months. That makes ISK farming quite difficult, since some corps will take it up to wardec every farmer corps they find. Great fun ahead!
Implement these changes, and force people out of npc corps after a few months (maybe into their own one person corps) seems like a good way to go to me. ___________________________________
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Alex Harumichi
Gallente Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Maybe you should try fighting back instead of whining for protection from CCP.
If you want to blame someone, blame the Goons. I doubt this would be happening without their "kill everyone we can just for shits and giggles" campaigns.
Me, I'm actually thanking the Goons (hey, there's a first time for everything ). Forcing highsec ganking to actually carry an itty bitty element of risk and careful target selection is all good.
The fact that lowsec sucks in general is another separate matter that I hope CCP does something about in the future.
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Kelli Flay
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Gaia Thorn
Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
Originally by: Serj Darek
Originally by: Gamesguy Funny how all the carebears are saying "adapt or die!" when a week ago they were the ones who've been failing to adapt and whining for the past...two years?
QFT!
Just as funny as seeing all the suicide gankers crying foul now
Cause we always get the shortend of the stick.
whilst the "bears" get what they want.
Hello idiot. This is to inform you that you have had what you wanted for what?.....four years now?
I am not seeing the "short end of the stick." I am seeing a shortage of brain cells on your part though. Lot of whining too.
Adapt noob.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:53:00 -
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oh no my low sec ganking now gives me a lot less sec hit?
I don't get it what's wrong.
Originally by: Dapanman1 Terrible idea, you're an idiot
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Sweet Laylah
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Andrue
Originally by: Sweet Laylah
Quote: It is too easy to gain back lost standing, taking only a few days to erase all the damage done by ganking.
Too easy?!
Regaining sec hits for shooting enemies in low sec is one of the most tedious tasks in the game .. after ratting and mission running.
Not everyone with a low sec rating is a pirate, war decs are extremely limited in use (not to mention waste of isks for small corps), especially in low sec around 0.0.
Nah.
I've done some pirating with my second account and getting back sec status was no big deal. I just ran a few L4 missions in a Sleipnir and used the drones to take the BS out. It took them about 20 minutes for one BS so I just left them at it while I did other stuff.
I was surprised by how relatively painless it was. Of course players that devote all their time to Eve will be bored but most people seem able to leave the client running while they get on with other stuff.
I don't have that luxury being always at war in empire or out in 0.0.
I seem to remeber CCP saying EVE wasn't meant to be played afk ...
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Kelli Flay
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Blog In many cases, unsuspecting victims have no chance to escape , nor any help from CONCORD
That is the most worrying about-face I think I have seen CCP do.
I don't mind the changes too much, but I am concerned that it further upsets the balance between player and non-player corps. Immunity from war declarations needs to be looked at.
It is funny how every time CCP changes a game mechanic, the people against the change dream up something new that they want changed in "retaliation."
Example: Nano nerf = crybabies wanting Drake tanks nerfed..lol
And you people are suppose to be the tough guys?..lol You are pathetic crybabies.
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Exlegion
New Light Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:57:00 -
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These changes are mostly affecting the bottom feeders of Eve. And overall it is to shift the bulk of this kind of "PVP" to the outskirts of empire where it belongs. Unless you fit the category you won't see much change and there is no need for hysteria. It is not 'dumbing' down Eve.
Eve is a game for everyone, including the casual players that don't want to overly trouble themselves with details of precaution. Keep in mind there will still be risk for these players, but not as bad as in say, the lower levels of high security space and low security altogether.
One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr |
Tippia
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Tippia Sound like an awful idea? Yes, but that's what will be required.
Or you could, you know, form your own one man corp? Or CCP could introduce specific wardeccable NPC corps?
a) No, because I like the social aspect of being in a large corp. b) Maybe, but they would most likely just be permadecced by everyone and their mother (I mean, who doesn't want to kill newbs? ), making them completely unattractive and might as well not be there. It probably could work, but would be difficult to implement well.
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Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kelli Flay
Originally by: Gaia Thorn
Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
Originally by: Serj Darek
Originally by: Gamesguy Funny how all the carebears are saying "adapt or die!" when a week ago they were the ones who've been failing to adapt and whining for the past...two years?
QFT!
Just as funny as seeing all the suicide gankers crying foul now
Cause we always get the shortend of the stick.
whilst the "bears" get what they want.
Hello idiot. This is to inform you that you have had what you wanted for what?.....four years now?
I am not seeing the "short end of the stick." I am seeing a shortage of brain cells on your part though. Lot of whining too.
Adapt noob.
Um what?
What have "gankers" had that they for 4 years? Repeated concord buffs?
Or do you mean the possibility of non-consensual PvP at all?
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Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.08.06 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kelli Flay
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Blog In many cases, unsuspecting victims have no chance to escape , nor any help from CONCORD
That is the most worrying about-face I think I have seen CCP do.
I don't mind the changes too much, but I am concerned that it further upsets the balance between player and non-player corps. Immunity from war declarations needs to be looked at.
It is funny how every time CCP changes a game mechanic, the people against the change dream up something new that they want changed in "retaliation."
Example: Nano nerf = crybabies wanting Drake tanks nerfed..lol
And you people are suppose to be the tough guys?..lol You are pathetic crybabies.
You're speaking as if people asking for a reform of the wardec system is a new thing.
So, is that because you're ignorant or dishonest?
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copasetic sideways
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Posted - 2008.08.06 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An I'd say this guy is in Hydra or IRC.
well, if i get to choose, can we make it hydra? specifically, the corp that invented bacon.
thanks.
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TrulyKosh
Gallente Solo for UNCLE
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Posted - 2008.08.06 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Gamesguy
Originally by: Caldreean I have no issue with the concept of suicide ganking. But it shouldn't be as easy as it is now. This tries to address that, and that's fine with me.
And all you people spazzing out about the loss of insurance, boo hoo. Ganker tears are delicious! If you want to waste your ship ganking, party on, but let's be real here. With how easy it is to recycle alts (regardless of CCPs stance against it) or work standing back up, there needs to be *some* price to pay. And this is it. Deal
Recycling alts is an exploit, if you think someone is doing this you can petition to get them banned. So thats not an argument.
And we all trust in the fact that it never happens, right? Negative Sec. status -> no alt recycling would be an easy fix.
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