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Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:24:00 - [61] Originally by: Minsc It seems to me that as soon as the -10 pilot boards a ship the faction police should be warping in to blow the ship up and not when they have had time to enter the belt and suicide someone. Also I agree that any pilot who lets an outlaw access their ship maintenance bay in high-sec should get flagged as an accomplice in the act. It's like saying that the getaway driver in a bank robbery isn't guilty if the robbers never make it out of the bank. Its not really the faction police who are the problem its the sentry guns. The orca trick takes sentrys out of the equation. And yeah the way CCP will probably fix it if they even feel it needs to be quickly fixed is flagging the orca pilot for letting a flashy red use the maint bay. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Dark 'Shadow Shadow Fire Industries	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:28:00 - [62] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Minsc It seems to me that as soon as the -10 pilot boards a ship the faction police should be warping in to blow the ship up and not when they have had time to enter the belt and suicide someone. Also I agree that any pilot who lets an outlaw access their ship maintenance bay in high-sec should get flagged as an accomplice in the act. It's like saying that the getaway driver in a bank robbery isn't guilty if the robbers never make it out of the bank. Its not really the faction police who are the problem its the sentry guns. The orca trick takes sentrys out of the equation. And yeah the way CCP will probably fix it if they even feel it needs to be quickly fixed is flagging the orca pilot for letting a flashy red use the maint bay. An Orca can just jet the ship, no need for the flashy red to even touch the ship maintenance bay.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:32:00 - [63] True, forgot about that. Well it looks like CCP will have some thinking to do. As it stands I've been looking for a reason to pick up an orca and I just happen to know some flashy reds in a few systems near the highsec carebear concentrations. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
AkRoYeR Amarr	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:32:00 - [64] Edited by: AkRoYeR on 01/12/2008 22:39:00 Going to state the unfortunate obvious.... Move your mining ops elsewhere. Oh yeah, and what system please? I want to kill some flashy red poddy dudes.
Johnny Gurkha Death Cult Covenant	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:36:00 - [65] /tips hat to the pirates involved now go **** those macro mackinaws before the nerf
Laechyd Eldgorn Caldari Art of War Exalted.	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:39:00 - [66] Edited by: Laechyd Eldgorn on 01/12/2008 22:40:53 This is what you get for having any hi sec at all. tbh. Even though mining in perfecly secure space is superduper unrealistic empire ganks like that are even more immersion breaking poo-poo.
Cantana Soul Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:44:00 - [67] Great tactics! Not an exploit at all. Would love to know it was who thought of doing this. Makes it even better it got a whine thread! Bravo!
Troezar Fatality.	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:44:00 - [68] Originally by: Johnny Gurkha /tips hat to the pirates involved now go **** those macro mackinaws before the nerf Good thinking, solves the how to kill macro miners question too, hire the -10 flashies
Cantana Soul Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:46:00 - [69] Edited by: Cantana Soul on 01/12/2008 22:47:54 Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn Edited by: Laechyd Eldgorn on 01/12/2008 22:40:53 This is what you get for having any hi sec at all. tbh. Even though mining in perfecly secure space is superduper unrealistic empire ganks like that are even more immersion breaking poo-poo. Yes a great way to kill macros! I didn't even think about that. All of the -10 pirates out there can clean new eden of macro miners. Genius. Can the OP change the name of the thread " new easy way to kill macro miners". k thx
Daplat Mode Caldari Mean Corp	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:47:00 - [70] Ok, first off lol... Second, as its been stated, this is not an exploit by any means. Third, from a pirates perspective, this can be avoided, you just might actually have to make a bit of effort. Things that may help you and your mates. 1. Pay attention Now, you may be saying "but this is highsec and concord should be there to defend those who cannot defend themselves right?" WRONG it takes 3 gank fit t1 destroyers to take down a poorly fitted hulk. try setting your a thing called "standings" so you can see if your attackers are in local. 2. PAY ATTENTION I know managing jetcans and activating modules every 7 minutes or so can be a rather menacing task for even the most elite carebears, but every once in a while, take a minute so notice that there are other things in space than rocks and npc's like that mysterious safespotted orca you speak of. Click your directional scanner everyonce in a while. 3. Learn to how to fit defenses to your ship. I dont know how many 100m isk mining barges i've popped that had a civilian shield booster attached to it... your literally begging to die easily. Hitpoints can be a greater asset than that 'roid scanner. 4. Stop whining. Because ultimately, nobody cares. 5. Duh If you cant overcome the issues that your having, I recommend either moving to a different area, giving all your stuff to pirates (because we're just gonna take it from you anyway) or possibly trying hellokitty online, I hear its really sweet. Good luck!
Kraundewr	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:55:00 - [71] Edited by: Kraundewr on 01/12/2008 22:55:17 So I just want to get this straight. You mine with a large number of people and have no protection with you? WALL <------- YOUR HEAD (repeat as needed)
Dibsi Dei Salamyhkaisten kilta	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:56:00 - [72] Oh my God there is still PvP in eve! Where did ccp go wrong
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.12.01 22:58:00 - [73] A fix for this would be to check for CONCORD agression every session change. So you board a ship in space causing a session change and CONCORD spawn on your criminal ass to pop your ship. I am quite sure CCP didn't intend this use for the Orca. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Cantana Soul Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:00:00 - [74] It has a ship maintenance bay, of course they did!
Dibsi Dei Salamyhkaisten kilta	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:01:00 - [75] Quick! Remove the pvp before anyone notices!
Karille Gallente Cold Templars Templar Initiative	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:01:00 - [76] Originally by: Abrazzar A fix for this would be to check for CONCORD agression every session change. So you board a ship in space causing a session change and CONCORD spawn on your criminal ass to pop your ship. I am quite sure CCP didn't intend this use for the Orca. Concord can check all they want since they aren't the ones who (are supposed to) keep the -10s out.
Ishaki	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:02:00 - [77] People have been using something similar in 0.0 and probably lowsec using carriers / motherships for a long time now. Just set them to red, and when they jump in to the system you dock up. There is no exploit here, just using basic pvp 101 tactics. Welcome to eve.
xastrosrulex890	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:07:00 - [78] Lol I love it. Be alert. I havent tried it but my corp has, and I wanna try it. The gerbles are coming for your hulkie!!!
Crellion Art of War Exalted.	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:08:00 - [79] This is not new since using alt to eject in safespot suicide ship for your meanie is an old takteek BUT Using an Orca for it is BRILLIANT. Using the carebears wet dream to kill them in high sec, using the same ship they use in X3 to haul their junk around space is UBER!!!! My compliments :D Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:11:00 - [80] miners must die uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
mandaro	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:12:00 - [81] Originally by: Thoren Gregson Edited by: Thoren Gregson on 01/12/2008 20:41:19 we log in our pods and the other guys in our corp havenÆt logged in since. /emorageevequit Can I have their stuff? Seriously though... suicide ganks are part of eve. Learn to deal with it or go play <insert other game here that does not allow the s****kicked out of other games to do as they will>
Solomunio Kzenig Amarr VITOC	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:20:00 - [82] No expolit here, working as intended. To the OP, there are things you can do to mitigate/eliminate this, they are mentioned in this thread, see if you can recognise them eh?
Qui Shon	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:21:00 - [83] Just do away with the ****ing insurance already. Just for concord kills or alltogether even. It SHOULD have been done ages ago, and insurance changes were mentioned by CCP earlier, but as usual nothing has been done. Yes yes, leave some provision for noobs in cruisers, but that's it.
Lexa Hellfury Maximum Yarrage	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:24:00 - [84] So get 15 or so t1 cruisers and go suicide gank one of the orcas maybe?
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:27:00 - [85] Originally by: Zeba I think the argument here is that it makes it too easy for -10 who should be pwnd as soon as they enter empire and not that suicide ganking is 'wrong' or too easy or hard. Down with this. The suicide ganking part is fine. The part where -10.0 pilots can cleverly get past gate guns and the police mmmm I don't know. Avoiding the police is ok, but the boarding a ship part is iffy. However, it is not like -10.0 pilots are camping gates or stations or even belts, they are probably in the ship for less than a minute and then it goes pop and they have to wait the GCC for at least 15 minutes. If the miners had a brain and warped out then the gankers would've gotten blown up fairly easily. The fact that you can modify your overview to show -10.0 pilots makes it fairly trivial for real players to avoid danger. Add the fact that you can kill macroers and isk farmers, I have no choice but to give this a big thumbs up, if I wasn't such a pansy about being -10.0 I'd kill ice macros all day long. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Resamo	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:28:00 - [86] Edited by: Resamo on 01/12/2008 23:29:51 No one did anything wrong, pirates were very clever and did this all within game mechanics. However, i dont think game mechanics should allow you to empire gank with 0 risk and lots of reward. It cost them next to nothing to pull this off as they are allready -10, and their ships were insured. Doing this in a busy system is probably faster isk then doing level 4's and every none mission runner complains about the large reward for little risk on those. I would say a simple solution is have concord/navy pod anyone below -5... means you can still pull this kind of **** off if you want to but its going to cost you clones. Even that may not fix it as a suicide run against wel fitted ships will easily cover the costs of the clones. I dont have a real sollution, you should not "ban" this kind of act but you have to have some kind of punishment for it thats real (loosing a fully insured ship is not punishment). I cant think of a reason not to do this if i am i pirate corp right now i would be setting this up in a mission hub with a like 20 x-mas tree battleships to pop CNR's and golems undocking as fast as possible... probably make a ton of isk at the cost of 20insured bs's. (might take some logisitics as the orca cant hold that many, i dont think) still even having an alt moving that many ships to a safe and going nutz. Anyways there needs to be some kind of punishment, risk, or whatever so its possible to do but at an actuall cost. edit: x-mas bs's would pop cans so thast a bad idea... extream dps tech 1 fits then.
Haakelen Gallente Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:30:00 - [87] The risk is the miners potentially being competent and bringing security for their mining ops. If they choose to be prey, they should expect predators.
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:35:00 - [88] I laugh people, I laugh. I laugh of the people who think they are clever by exploiting the new found possibilities of ganking using the game mechanics provided by the Orca, and I laugh of the people who think CCP will find it tolerable. As a player who has been around since the beginning this is by far the first instance of people taking advantage of poorly implemented game mechanics to gank people (I think black ops jumping out of high sec after aggression was the last one). CCP will "fix it" either by deeming it an exploit or fixing the mechanics and the "poor" victims will have their ships reimbursed anyhow. There is simply nothing to gain from this kind of activity except of wasting time for your self, other players and CCP. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
Reediculouhs	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:38:00 - [89] Originally by: Haakelen The risk is the miners potentially being competent and bringing security for their mining ops. If they choose to be prey, they should expect predators. Hear Hear! As a full time miner I never forget my hardened Nighthawk on my alt!
Barkaial Starfinder Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.01 23:39:00 - [90] I like this. The only problem i see here is that, even if you find the Orca pilot aiding those pirates, there is no way to kill the Orca pilot, since he wouldnt be flagged. If CCP can think of a way to make everyone involved added to "Kill Rights", this would be solved.

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