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Cryos V
Big Johnson's Ascendance.
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Posted - 2012.05.25 01:10:00 -
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Spud Ugly wrote:UI looks pretty and could be useful but,,,,
SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOW to the point of being unusable.
Moved 1,000 BPC's from pos lab to ship cargo hold - client froze for 47 minutes waiting for transfer to complete.
Seriously, opening inventory in a WH is so painfully slow. If, I wanna ship - Let me wait 3 minutes for it to load. Thanks!! That's what I really wanted in a patch. All the POS mods in the inventory window, Yea drag and drop is sooo kewl, OH crap which mod did that go into...hmmm. Please fix the inventory window. IT SUCKS! |
Temujin Nardieu
Eve TNT
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Posted - 2012.05.25 01:25:00 -
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I love the new missile graphics and sounds. Not happy at all with the inventory system. Hard to work with to move items around and salvaging has became a real pain in the butt because of it. Give us the old inventory back! |
Meatme
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.25 01:33:00 -
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Missiles cool. Inventory sucks. Change it back please. Or at least make it so we can keep the ship and item window open when we redock. I thought you changed the session change thing for faster turn around. Well you just screwed that up. |
Roddex
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.25 01:48:00 -
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I like the new missile system.
I hate: Stealth defender nerf (never saw a Dev Blog or forum post on it, just appeared in patch notes).
Being forced to the new inventory. I don't mind adding a new feature for those who want it but please give me a check box to go back to the old way. I liked being able to open a million windows with all my inventory spaces and hate the new approach (and shift+click on everything isn't an acceptable solution to me). It couldn't be that hard to leave both systems in the game. |
Meatme
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.25 01:51:00 -
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Wellygold wrote:The new inventory system is totally unworkable. Please stop fixing what aint broke Amen |
Mhowatt
Stealers Of Pie
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Posted - 2012.05.25 01:51:00 -
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I find the new inventory system hard to navigate and it seems much slower when trying to loot many wrecks in my salvager. |
Clove Dragolis
Reprocity Knights Of The Singularity
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:00:00 -
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Dear Devs, please undo the changes made to the inventory system.
It is very difficult to have two or more inventory windows open at once. Most players prefer "boxes" for their inventory, not a directory tree style layout. I have always believed that this is an important ISK sink. It certainly is for me, and I often have to buy multiple containers in each station to maintain my inventories.
If un-doing the changes is politically unfeasible for CCP, please consider the following: * Allow shift-click to work anywhere, and not just in the index. * It should take just as few clicks to open windows like they were before the expansion, not more. * Change it back so that when you dock, the ships and items windows will re-open. * Fix the bug that opens / closes windows on session changes * Allow us to double-click our ships to look in their cargoholds * Make the windows remember where they used to be. * Make the cargohold stay open on undock (and make it stay the same size). * Make it easy (just as few clicks) to get in & out of a jetcan WHILE KEEPING YOUR CARGOHOLD OPEN, AND IN A SEPARATE WINDOW. Anything else is a HUGE disservice to miners. * When floating around a POS, please allow us to filter out items by distance. If I can't open every Cruise launcher outside the Force Field, then I don't need to see that they are there in the directory tree. *The old functionality of inventory management should remain while the enhancements are added. Losing that functionality is a step backwards.
I like the value in the lower corner, even though I suspect it is causing me lag. This was a great addition. (For the record, I am not all negative )
I realize that changing things back might seem like the company will "lose face" with the public. On the contrary, I believe that responsiveness to customer feedback is the ultimate goal, and that is why I like EVE, and have stuck by CCP, even though monoclegeddon and all that noise.
Please realize that EVE, more than any other game, is about the accumulation of stuff. There is no practical limit (that I know of) for accumulating items. The recent changes made it harder to manage those items. I believe that this is an unfortunate move away from one of EVE's core values, one of the ones that makes it great.
This is my first forum post, ever for any game - This is how strongly I feel about the inventory issue. (technically second, I posted in another htread to make sure it went into the correct one)
Thank you for reading my post.
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L iriel
YA SQUAD The Methodical Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:23:00 -
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I did not see anything in the patch notes about fixing the chat channels. Are they fixed? or do people still show in local and corp whether they are online or not? |
Vanishish
Over The Hill Gang Minning corp.
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:35:00 -
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I use Windows 8 consumer review and found after downloading the most recent build for Inferno that the shortcut supplied did not deploy the game. After some updating of "DXSETUP" and other previous fixes and still no game load I made a shortcut to a file in the /bin file "EXEFILE" and now all is well and the game is loading I hope this helps any others that are currently out of game. |
Mezfin
Skyforger Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:42:00 -
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Please return to the old Inventory system that actually worked well... Thanks |
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Rhianna BloodELF
Skyforger Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:48:00 -
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The Unified Inventory system clearly does not work or was never thought out... I vote that we return to the way it was before the old system worked well and did not have all these problems. I can no longer move items around in my POS, Ratting and Mining is now impossible, and the inventory at a station, if you have a lot of items is impossible to work with now.
Return to the Inventory system we had before, please listen to your users. Thanks |
Tesan
Can't Resist IRON FIST
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:53:00 -
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New Inventory system sucks and is completely unusable. CCP should give players the option to "unselect" it and return to the old Invetory system that works. |
Plep
Can't Resist IRON FIST
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:57:00 -
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New hangar and inventory IS TERIBBLE. Completly non functional and useless.
PLEASE GIVE US OLD HANGAR WINDOW. I like the previous post, allow players to "unselect" the new Inventory System. It should not be forced on us. |
Sciathica Malhavoc
Can't Resist IRON FIST
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Posted - 2012.05.25 03:02:00 -
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your crappy unified inventory is really bad, roll it back or make it optional! The old system worked fine and their were no complaints, so why change it? |
Sierra Racs
Oddfellows Local 151
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Posted - 2012.05.25 03:04:00 -
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My two cents in regards to Eve: Inferno
I have been a hard core player of EVE since I joined the game last March GÇÿ11, according to Steam I have logged just under 1900 hours. Over 1800 hours were played prior to the end of April. As the ramp up to Inferno approached all I sensed was how the elements of the game I have grown to love were being stripped out. Aggression has been more rampant especially in hi-sec.
I will be up front and say that I am not a PvP player and I don't want to be. I love PvE and mining. When I joined there were clearly defined locations to mitigate the risk a player wanted to take. If you wanted to mine you stayed in Hi-sec. If you wanted to mine more expensive rocks then you had to go into low-sec or nul-sec. You knew the risks and you dealt with them. It's like going into a rough neighborhood; you take your chances if you go there.
There seems to be an escalation (pun intended) towards PvP kind of play, which I personally have no interest in.
Where is the balance in this?
Does that mean that updates can't be geared towards the PvP player? Of course not! I want everyone to be able to enjoy the game in the way that they want. I would not like an update that is geared towards care bears to take away from the game play of PvP players. They can take advantage of the update if, in the future, they need a break from that kind of game play. Sadly the same cannot be said when an update that is clearly directed at PvP players is forced upon non PvP players.
Making things easier to war-dec... How does this make any sense in area of space that are heavily NPC controlled? It doesn't. In contested space, it makes complete sense and I fully endorse it there. When I joined Eve there was a balance to the risk you wanted to take in regards to the rewards one could make. That balance has been eroding away and it was noticeable with Escalation and now is clearly evident with Inferno.
I have no intention of becoming a PvP player, that's not the gaming experience I want to be a part of. I'm not rage quitting but it does get harder to play when a game that was a blast to play is no longer so. I mine (asteroids and planets), I PvE, I salvage, I do industrial work, I play the market. Perhaps the elements of the game I like are more cerebral, I guess. The game is challenging because there are so many ways to play it and each has its cool elements and strategies. Where is the strategy with hi-sec PvP? All that is happening is that players, who, as an earlier poster described it, are meat and potato players are being driven out of the game.
I know the update is only a couple of days old but the rumblings are out there. An old saying I like is, GÇÿwhere there is smoke, there is fireGÇÖ. The meat and potato players are losing the fun of playing and when these players go what is left? I suspect that the next six months will show us. I just wonder if I am willing to wait that long and see. Perhaps there will be a less vocal reaction than last yearGÇÖs snafu and the silent majority will talk with their wallets instead of their guns.
This is, of course, just my two cents.
Fly safe.
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db Deckard
Loc-Nar Support Services Rura-Penthe
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Posted - 2012.05.25 03:09:00 -
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New War system changes the game dynamic from what was allways slanted toward the griefers, gankers, and extortionist to hard over in favor of them. Where before there was some balance, now it just makes the small mining/Production corps targets for extortion and thus basically drives them out of the game.
As I'm dropping out of the game soon as a direct result of the accumulation of bad changes over the last year...specifically 'Captains Cabin", "The fuel Cube debackle', and 'War-Dec upgreade', I had the opportunity to tear down 3 towers, I got much experiance with the new inventory system.....FAIL!!! So add that to the list. I was running from an Orca to Towers with multiple hangers and could not tell half the time which corp hanger was the correct 1. |
Windwalker 2007
Skyforger Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.05.25 03:14:00 -
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I have never taken the time to post on the forums before, and I hope that CCP does actually listen to their "customers".
This new "Unified Inventory" is probably the worst mistake I have ever seen since I started playing the game. I have seen a lot of improvements to the game over the years, but this was definately a huge step in the wrong direction and from the outcry of the players is it obvious pretty much everyone else feels the same way.
RETURN TO THE OLD INVENTORY SYSTEM, OR LET PLAYERS "OPT" OUT OF IT.
I have pretty much stopped playing the game until this gets fixed. CCP listen to your customers. |
Lunas Whisper
Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension
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Posted - 2012.05.25 03:22:00 -
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Angeliq wrote:CCP SoniClover wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:CCP Tuxford wrote:Hannott Thanos wrote: Edit: also, yay, a dev noticed me! And, I hate undocking all the time to see my EHP with the DC. I want to know my EHP when I'm docked :'(
You have no idea how much I want this as well, just ask anyone from my team confirmed. he talks about this probably every day! Talks about? Moans and bitches more like it... Instead of funny social chatter between you guys, wouldn't it be better if you actually answer some of the questions the players have and fix this crappy expansion? While you are at it, pls answer this ONE QUESTION: Why did CCP "stayed the course" with this crappy inventory feature after all the negative feedback from Sisi?
+1
Having read various threads, where players have complained, this is par for the course. It is really annoying and unprofessional to ignore your customers issues.
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Lunas Whisper
Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension
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Posted - 2012.05.25 03:26:00 -
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Instead of funny social chatter between you guys, wouldn't it be better if you actually answer some of the questions the players have and fix this crappy expansion?
While you are at it, pls answer this ONE QUESTION:
Why did CCP "stayed the course" with this crappy inventory feature after all the negative feedback from Sisi?[/quote]
we can only give answers and feedback on the features we worked on for this release and we have been doing so in both this thread and the issues thread.
We're all on team Super Friends, responsible for new modules, War Dec system, War Reports, and Kill Reports [/quote]
Then at least acknowledge the concerns of your player base. Do a standard customer service paragraph of, your concerns with x will be shown to the proper team, so people don't rage because they feel ignored.
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NuroCorp
Raven's Flight Vanguard.
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Posted - 2012.05.25 03:46:00 -
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SO.... I log into the game today to see if any fixes have improve my game play experience, and nope -
Chat channels still borked and dont truly show who's present in them. - Standing Icons next to characters do not correctly represent whether they are friendly/hostile - NOT GOOD ( and i dont just mean local)
A corp member asked me yesterday to make a few ships for him, i did that - so I try and pass the ships to him - the old way I would have clicked the corp hangar, clicked member hangars (which in the good ol' days were alphabetized, and locate his name on the list). Drag and drop the ships, all is good. What this translates to now is a 10 second maneuvre that now takes 10 mins. And now I've practiced this at least 12 times, my times aren't improving....
Multiply the above by at least 200 people that I correspond with in the game and feel that they will not endure this format and I get to the point where I, Out of 12 accounts, have Unsubbed 6, and I am sure more will follow. This isn't rage quitting (been playing since 2005), This is in protest for removing fun and adding stress to a hobby which is now a chore - For the simple reason that the enjoyment i get from helping others has actually been nerfed, and I now have absolutely no reason to log into EVE at all. Except to see if the UI has been reverted to a practical simple UI, not some convoluted librarian system where if you dont have every item memorized you're screwed.
P.S. Its funny how when you reply to this thread you post doesn't get added on the first try.
I'm surrounded by Trolls |
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superNuts
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.25 04:01:00 -
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I don't like the fact that I can not see current ship as icon. I want the old ship's cargo hold window back, yes I can shift-click and get a separate window and make it smaller but that window still has more meat on it than the old version. In general I don't like the UI, at first I was so pissed off that I had to log off for a couple hours to seriously consider whether or not I wanted to continue playing. Of course I got over it and am currently trying to make the best of the new experience, I just wanted to give my feedback and point out that there more who feel the same that are afraid to criticize for fear of some type of punishment. Also, when I close the in-game browser my client freezes for a couple seconds now, I don't know if it's the patch or I just need to re-install. |
Lunas Whisper
Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension
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Posted - 2012.05.25 04:57:00 -
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WolfSchwarzMond wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote: I was working on War Dec and Kill Reports this release - hope you like that stuff!
This was on the 1st page of this thread. Post number 10. This tells me that CCP knew we'd hate this new Inventory. There a is Dev going "Don't blame me. I was working on something else.!" So after 23 pages, 90% of them saying this thing is "CRAP" or "junk" or "Stupid" or that is just "SUX" the question is simple. Why can't CCP learn from it's own mistakes? We've been here before......] "Red flags raised by very smart people both at CCP and in the community went unheeded because of my stubborn refusal to allow adversity to gain purchase on our plans." -Hilmar Veigar P+¬tursson, CEO And so they repeated the same mistake. Making a change, testing it, getting feeback from players that said "THIS SUCKS" then ramming it down the player's collective throats anyway. "The greatest lesson for me is the realization that EVE belongs to you, and we at CCP are just the hosts of your experience." -Hilmar Veigar P+¬tursson, CEO Well Sir, this was a lesson you didn't learn. You proved it today. The new inventory has made Looting from Wrecks, Player Owned Station operations, Jetcan Mining, Corporate Hanger Ops, and dealing with large amounts of items a tedious, time wasting, torture sessions. Your people were told time and again during Sisi testing that this change was not a good idea, but you did it anyway. Again.... I would humbly suggest that you either Rollback this change or make it optional as you did with the whole Captain's Quarters fiasco. Let us not take this latest lack of good judgement and turn it into International news. Prove to us you can learn from your mistakes. And stop repeating them. Quotes taken from here http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2672 +1
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Grizilk Chanlin
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2012.05.25 05:07:00 -
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The inventory system is quite laggy on my MBP. I moved in total 180 items from my Noctis cargo hold to my items hangar and the system really lags out as it attempts to populate the prices of all the items. |
Desperate Female
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.25 05:16:00 -
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The look of the inventory system is nice.
Sadly its functionality is trash. Did you guys even use this crap before you deployed it? Seriously.
Salvaging a site of wrecks now is painful as the inventory window switches to the contents of your ship after looting EVERY TIME. How about just making the window disappear after looting like it did before?
Moving cargo from one container, whether it be a storage container, my items hangar, or a ship's cargo hold, is crazy clumsy. This could easily be resolved by allowing the users to override which types of containers open in a new window by default in some sort of settings or preferences screen.
Thank you CCP, for again releasing something that isn't really finished yet. Its almost like you crashed my emotional attachment to ship spinning again. Do you guys actually have real software developers over there or do you just take some of the kids from the local schools and let them slap some crap together as part of their finals? |
Gandin Grothe
Sucker Punch Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.25 05:37:00 -
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The missiles effects are fantastic.
Pinning windows and locking them in place seems to work for me, can have different positioning for space or in station.
Getting use to salvaging, looting first as long as I use "loot all" works well. However cherry picking, I can drag loot from a wreck to my cargo hold via the menu but occasionally this will open the cargo hold and I have to re-select the wreck-slightly annoying. I can understand how some may have difficulty adjusting to the way this works.
Frigate balancing appears unbalanced not liking the new Merlin no launchers is pretty lame for a Caldari ship and seems way undertanked compared to the incursus, which is faster too, sort of makes the Merlin not very attractive.
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Stella androidna
Stolen Identities
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Posted - 2012.05.25 05:46:00 -
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Mac OsX 10.7.4 :
lost connection after 5 minutes of inactivity in the game, never happened before new version. |
Makaganti
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.25 05:51:00 -
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Stella androidna wrote:Mac OsX 10.7.4 :
lost connection after 5 minutes of inactivity in the game, never happened before new version.
Mac's suk anyway so no one really cares lol |
ShadowMech73
Combat Monkey Brigade
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Posted - 2012.05.25 06:11:00 -
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The only saving grace of the assnine inventory system on the test server was being able to turn it off. Yet you didn't listen. WHY does CCP insist on messing with things that work fine, were told that was a horrible idea, instead of fixing things that need fixed. Overview and pos hangers are two that need overhauled totally.
Also 99.8% of the time I don't care one bit about the value of my cargo hold or cans. Yet I am forced to have wasted space with that junk. It takes up critical space.
Also moving cap ships and gear around is so cumbersome. Rorq pilots are having nightmares. Plus its laggy.
What worked smoothly and easily before you have now made cumbersome, inefficient and ********. Why should I have to shift click to open a can in a window instead of having a setting to make it do that by default.
This keeps up and I'll be having to drop a few accounts because its so cumbersome and such a pain that it becomes a distraction and could cause me to get jumped.
As others have said roll this back. You finally did it with the station walking around, do it with this. |
ShadowMech73
Combat Monkey Brigade
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Posted - 2012.05.25 06:21:00 -
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also can we PLEASE PLEASE get a corp or blue icon next to our name in local? Why should my name not be blue to myself? When looking through local or having it jump and ya see no icon it instantly screams hostile. Then ya notice its myself or an alt. Sorry this should have been a no brainer. (local whiners please stay out of it don't want local go to a WH) |
Cman Vaille
Cestus Wraith
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Posted - 2012.05.25 06:35:00 -
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I think the new inventory is awesome. Less windows means less clutter. and its easy. i dont get the big deal. Nice job guys |
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