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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.14 11:54:00 -
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Our all beloved spaceships (they make wonderful explosions) are an important part of the New Eden and therefore our developers also apply special love to them. A while ago we announced a grand plan to balance the existing ships.
Now that we had enough time to collected good feedback (thank you for all the constructive discussions) and to think about it, we can present you an update of our plans.
Please welcome CCP Ytterbium and his new dev blog "Ship balancing summer upgrade" where he explains our updated plans and introduces the road ahead in regards to ship balancing. The blog can be read here.
Your constructive feedback is most welcome.
CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.14 11:55:00 -
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rawr!
MINING FRIGATE!! <3333
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CCP Veritas
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:01:00 -
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I'm going to fly so many Bantams...
CCP Veritas - Senior Programmer - EVE Software |
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Peta Michalek
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:03:00 -
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Good god...
Can we expect the first batch of changes with Inferno 1.1? If yes, what ships would be affected?
Also, that mining frig looks sweet. |
Krystyn
Serenity Rising LLC
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:03:00 -
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CCP Veritas wrote:I'm going to fly so many Bantams...
T2 bantam??? |
Ponder Yonder
Fleet of the Damned
Ace of Spades.
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:04:00 -
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I can't wait! Great plans, CCP. |
Brolly
Romex Inc.
Dustm3n
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:04:00 -
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thanks the gods...or devs!, larger hold for barges :D
How much of an increase are we looking at?, any vague figures or ideas? |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:08:00 -
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I wonder how many people are gonna complain about barges with battleship sized EHP, especially with large ore holds? I am sure there is going to be a tear or two over them. 
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The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |
Adaahh Gee
Rock jockeyz
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:09:00 -
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Nice work CCP, Looks good.
Bring out some Tier 2 Destroyers, would be good as E-war platforms.
Cormorant should be a missile boat.
Don't take Turrets away from Thrasher, it's king of the destroyers at the moment. (maybe remove it's launcher hardpoint) |
Sidrun
Life sucks then you die Ltd.
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:10:00 -
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These look pretty awesome. |
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Peta Michalek
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:10:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:I wonder how many people are gonna complain about barges with battleship sized EHP, especially with large ore holds? I am sure there is going to be a tear or two over them.
It's really not much different from what we have now - if you maximize yield on a Hulk you have no defense, if you tank properly you lose yield. |
Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
655
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:13:00 -
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Good changes!
I especially like the damp boost.
The barge changes - especially large cargo hold and high EHP - will cause a lot of whining of highly-competent PvPers who are afraid of getting their ability removed to prove their competence against this extremely dangerous ship class. Looking forward to that. |
Prime FLux
The Rising Stars
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:13:00 -
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Bring out the orbital bombardment destroyer!
The only way to make sure! |
eVRiAL
Pact Of Honour
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:15:00 -
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New destroyers concept art are coming out? |
Peter Powers
Terrorists of Dimensions
Free 2 Play
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:15:00 -
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this looks pretty cool,
and new destroyers are a good idea (love the idea of drone destroyers)
but one thing bothers me
all ships and ship changes lately have been mostly positive for new players,
even when t3 cruisers got introduced, their skill sets where set so they can be trained quite fast.
so when are you going to give us vets a few new toys?
also what happend to t3 in other ship classes?
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Daneel Trevize
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:16:00 -
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Edit: never mind all the below, I missed a key point about this Summer update, the release of these minor changes will be for Winter?!
- When are ASBs getting looked at? Dual XL all the things, armour aren't even 1/3 as capable for a meta0 module. Your latest new things are the least balanced yet.
- When Are Tier3s being checked? You think you got them right first time, with that speed & agility (best meta-tank)?
- When will ECM be something that you aren't embarrassed to put on an AT prize ship?
- How about a Cynabals and Macharials nerf just like the Dramiel got? At least fitting tweaks, force a choice.
- The other end of the spectrum, the Exequror needs the same slot swap as the T2 version got 6months ago now.
- Tengus, Drakes (you had a detailed change in the works last year), Canes. You know the usage numbers.
- Info links?
- Armour rigs & plates speed penalty (again you almost had a change for these)
- Cloaky Legion?
- We know the list of existing high priority things goes on and on...
You call this balance? This is the lowest hanging fruit, the easiest set of changes to please the most existing and new players? The most key elements to vastly improving this game? |
Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
655
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:18:00 -
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Oh right, and a note of caution: Griffins are surprisingly effective in a combat role already, as they can almost perma-jam most frigates. If you boost them - e.g. to make them more viable as a fleet support frigate - make sure that they do not become too strong in frigate-only combat. |
Archinquisitor
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:19:00 -
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Before making ADDITIONAL destroyers, consider upgrading one racial frigate each to destroyer, as we have so many frigates already, some without a proper role. |
Peta Michalek
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:21:00 -
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[quote=Daneel Trevize]You said you will work your way up from the bottom up, starting with frigates - why aren't you changing cruisers, battlecruisers and T3?[quote]
Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets? |
Adainy Gwanwyn
Legion of Darkwind
Order of the Void
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:21:00 -
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Peter Powers wrote:this looks pretty cool,
and new destroyers are a good idea (love the idea of drone destroyers)
but one thing bothers me
all ships and ship changes lately have been mostly positive for new players,
even when t3 cruisers got introduced, their skill sets where set so they can be trained quite fast.
so when are you going to give us vets a few new toys?
also what happend to t3 in other ship classes?
I'd like to think after they smooth out the progression of all the T1 ships, we'll see an explosion of new T2/T3 ships. That's how it's looking, at least. ;)
Also, super excited for damp boost, more drone boats and subtle Gallente boosts.
#LongLiveGallente |
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Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:23:00 -
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My only concern is T1 destroyers might make T1 frigates obsolete due to sheer firepower.
FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES !
Louis's epic skill guide v1.1 |
DeBingJos
Avalon Project
Shadow Rock Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:24:00 -
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Thank you very much CCP!
Fix FW ! |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:25:00 -
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inb4 ganker tear flood over skiff EHP
This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Trax Chasmwalker
Monkey Attack Squad
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:25:00 -
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+1 for BSG |
Bam Stroker
InterSun Freelance
Moon Warriors
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:27:00 -
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Standing by for ganker tears... |
Kata Amentis
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:31:00 -
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destroyers with orbital bombardment?
out of curiosity, does this mean Dust is getting different "sizes" of orbit strike, for small, medium, large and xl weapons being used in eve?
Curiosity killed the Kata...
... but being immortal he wasn't too worried about keeping a count. |
Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
205
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:32:00 -
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Dont forget to add +1 mid slot to coercer.
That's why i missed some Rupture kills :P |
DJ P0N-3
Table Flippendeavors
19
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:32:00 -
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Quote:possibly mini-profession operations, like hacking and codebreaking as well.
Oh my. Could this be a sign of new ships/bonuses in bigger ships to come?
I like where this devblog is going. |
Luthar Carrock
Dark Circle Enforcement
Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:33:00 -
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Love most of these ideas; new destroyers/roles for destroyers sound very exciting!
I look forward to seeing the details on the frigate reworkings, but I would ask... nay, plead, that the Bantam hull be redesigned as part of its overhaul, for it is truly butt-ugly!
You could make it the most effective Caldari combat frigate and I would still be embarrassed to fly it.
Thanks for continuing to work to make internet spaceships awesome! |
Kenpachi Viktor
Gradient
Electus Matari
180
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:36:00 -
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with regards to the mining/ehp balancing, you can T2 fit a Rokh that mines 98.8% of a T2 fit Hulk while having over 5 times the EHP
What is the point if every race has an Jam/Damp/Disruptor/ ship etc? Not every race has to be a fluffy little mirror of each other, it's seriously not needed. Things like Gallente having the only drone BS and Caldari having the only ECM BS are incredibly cool distinctions that only add to EVE in both game play value and flavour. |
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