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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:36:00 -
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I loled at the mining barge changes 
Edit : Damn that new ORE frigates looks good.
Completely unfair to the old cruiser hulls. |
Cry J
Midas Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:36:00 -
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Quote:Retriever/Mackinaw: made for self-reliance.
Would be nice if at least mackinaw would get bonus for active shield tanking, IMO it fits well with its new role.
Quote:That is why we want to introduce new tech 1 destroyers to fill roles that are not yet covered GÇô as such, Amarr / Gallente would receive additional drone boats, while Caldari / Minmatar would be more missile based.
I do hope that drone destroyers will get additional +drone speed and +tracking bonus to be effective vs frigates, and +explosion speed\size for missile boats.
also, DAT ORE FRIG! Its model is gorgeous. Also, reminds me of Homeworld game series somehow |
Istan Mahwi
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:37:00 -
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like where this is going
the ore frig looks rather nice-spiffy
cant wait to hear more! (keep it up) |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
425
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:37:00 -
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Kata Amentis wrote:destroyers with orbital bombardment?
out of curiosity, does this mean Dust is getting different "sizes" of orbit strike, for small, medium, large and xl weapons being used in eve?
I want a red and white paintjob for the catalyst with "Baron Von Ricthtofen" written on the site and then i'll go on orbital strafing runs
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Dolneagra
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:39:00 -
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I wonder if this will bring back casual jet-can mining of old. Would be nice NOT to be one-vollied by a Tempest/Malestrom for a change. ( and, NO, my barge was NOT set up to RECEIVE 11K+ while mining in a .8 belt )
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Eugene Spencer
Rodents of Unusual Size
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:39:00 -
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There is a spelling mistake. Last paragraph before "Destroyer of Worlds".
Due to how nested skill requirements work, players who alreadhy have the mining barge skill trained WON'T need to train the ORE frigate skill to keep flying their Covetor for example.
Other than that, these changes look great :)
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Kirkra
The In-Humane Society
Shadow Theory.
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:39:00 -
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So eh, is the invention chances for different Exhumers now going to be smoothed out as well? Currently retrievers are as hard as frigs, and making a Hulk is as painful as making a Marauder (BPC wise).
Also, I will just love if the timing with this thing goes on like it did with POS fuel... So many WH dwellers switching mining hulls in their home systems, just to find that the change is postponed))) |
Kiandoshia
Gnampf Inc.
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:40:00 -
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Quote:They rebelled, they evolved. They have a plan.
I find the whole plan part pretty hard to believe at the minute.
Also, why would you need to rebel to change something about your own game? =/ |
Chris Wheeler
Massively Motivated
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:40:00 -
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Prime FLux wrote:Bring out the orbital bombardment destroyer!
The only way to make sure!
I went out of my way to log in so I could like this post. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex
Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:43:00 -
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I am looking forward to the ice & minerals market crashing due to imbalance introduced by attempting to rebalance mining barges and exhumers. I'm sure that someone in CCP will think that increasing yields will somehow be a good idea.
Will the new Hulk have more or less HP than they currently do? Will it still be possible to tank the Hulk to withstand two shots from a Destroyer before the logistics pilot wakes up and starts reaping? I'm sure the gankers are going to love you for making the hulk even thinner than the paper thin hull it currently is.
Will the Hulk have more or less ice/ore production capacity than now?
Do CCP devs understand that you can't repair a ship that gets popped in one salvo?
How does a drone frigate work as a long range sniping platform? A frigate that can launch a sentry drone? Gets a bonus to drone travel speed, so you can foolishly send your drones flying 40km to the enemy who picks them off with 1400mm artillery?
:)
I am looking forward to more revelations on this topic of ship rebalancing!
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Mangala Solaris
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:43:00 -
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Pretty solid from my point of view, give me more things to lose in horrible ways :)
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Felix Macey
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:43:00 -
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Very nice changes. And good fixes to the rather broken mining barge class.
Any chance of getting a specialised barge for gas harvesting? 5 high slots and a jet can sized gas only cargo bay. |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger
Ev0ke
263
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:45:00 -
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very interresting changes, what about ice/merkoxit/(gas) mining ? |
Vas Vadum
LankTech
Zero Hour Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:47:00 -
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CCP, Don't forget you can also invent T3 mining barges. Something stronger or faster than a hulk with some other sort of setback or something like that.
Also, the Mackinaw isn't just a t2 of the Retriever. I use the Mackinaw for ice and the Hulk for Ore. Don't classify the 2 ships based on their t1 variant. Mackinaws are for ice while Hulks are for Ore. Maybe you should swap the position of the Mackinaw and the Covetor in your list of improvements. People may not like this, but with the current method you punish ore miners the most while giving ice miners an incredible boost to both cargohold and tank.
I just thought I'd point out a minor balancing flaw I saw. If CCP can quote my reply or something when they reply, that would be great so I can see that I have a reply. |
Teshania
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:47:00 -
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Loving the casting of changes coming out in all the ships.. The Vigil needs much love. Although i Hope it keeps its Minmatar love of speed.. and maybe actually be able to fight with this thing o.O can't friggin wait.
As For Minning Barges.. I love the frig idea!!!!
Though i do have a couple of Questions, since they are being Re balanced via Tank vs Output. Is there going to be a barge/exhumer that specializes in specific ore/mining Ice/Maybe Moon Goo? |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:49:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:whine whine whine
your glass is always half empty right?
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Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
Devil Divided By Zero
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:49:00 -
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oh, goodie
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Chris Wheeler
Massively Motivated
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:51:00 -
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Kiandoshia wrote:Quote:They rebelled, they evolved. They have a plan. I find the whole plan part pretty hard to believe at the minute. Also, why would you need to rebel to change something about your own game? =/
The cylons didn't bother informing the writing staff what their plan was. That gets more and more obvious the further you get in the series. |
Green Gambit
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:51:00 -
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Bring on the frig changes, it'll be nice to fly something other than a Rifter!
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MotherMoon
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
876
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:52:00 -
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wow page 3 already! I'm scared to read the thread! will it full of hate or full of win! this is a big change!
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Kalzin Maya
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:52:00 -
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regarding new mining frig document, only one p in top |
Captain Praxis
EVE University
Ivy League
88
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:52:00 -
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I like the way this is going.
The mining barge changes & new mining frigate in particular look awesome.
o7 CCP |
Victor Twenty
Odyssey Space Exploration
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:52:00 -
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Great changes CCP, but why do you need to wait so long.... Maybe you should bump up your time table so we can see Cruiser and Battlecruiser changes before end of year!!!!
Keep up the good work.
Vic20 |
impli
Tr0pa de elite.
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:53:00 -
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With the re-balancing of the frigates .. will be there new models .. or have we use the s**** old bantam frigate ? :) I want new shiny models .. and please re-size the Rifter to 70m long axes again .. 139m is tooo large and doesn't fit in the Size of the rest of the frigates anymore .. |
tasman devil
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:54:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Our all beloved spaceships (they make wonderful explosions) are an important part of the New Eden and therefore our developers also apply special love to them. A while ago we announced a grand plan to balance the existing ships. Now that we had enough time to collected good feedback (thank you for all the constructive discussions) and to think about it, we can present you an update of our plans. Please welcome CCP Ytterbium and his new dev blog "Ship balancing summer upgrade" where he explains our updated plans and introduces the road ahead in regards to ship balancing. The blog can be read here. Your constructive feedback is most welcome.
sounds like fun,
Also take a look at this:
http://lifeofzenith.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/ore-ships-rebalance/
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Chris Wheeler
Massively Motivated
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:54:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:whine whine whine
your glass is always half empty right?
There's a song with the line "but my cup is one sixteenth full." Even that sounds better than half empty:) |
Dino Boff
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:55:00 -
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I love the coming changing, but something's missing  ...
Can we have a dedicated ship to harvest Gas, maybe a t2 ORE frigate with bonus t2 harvester cpu requirement and to gas harvested amount, and with a gas bay? |
Fade Toblack
Per.ly
The 20 Minuters
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:56:00 -
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The mining frig/barge stuff all sounds just about spot on - good that you're fixing the Mining Barge skill requirements too.
Just one thing - how about the Exhumers skill? Is the plan to do the same as with Mining Barge, and unlock all the ships with the first level of the skill?
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Moonaura
The Dead Rabbit Society
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:57:00 -
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All welcome changes from what I can see from this outline.
As a Caldari focused corp, yes, the Cormorant sort of sucks for us compared to a thrasher. Right now we're better off in Merlins.
The Kestrel will need a lot more DPS, smaller signature or more speed to justify using it with Rockets. Right now it's best used as a missile kiter rather than a Merlin rocket equivalent (For which the Navy Hookbill is used instead as it works in that role).
Can I make the suggestion that instead of:
Magnate, Heron, Imicus, Probe: strengthening current roles as support frigates. Which mainly means scanning and possibly mini-profession operations, like hacking and codebreaking as well.
That they become drone frigates for each race? At least in addition to any side skills. Otherwise they still won't be popular. Be nice to see some of these hulls make it to regular use.
For the fast frigates:
Executioner, Condor, Atron, Slasher: role dedicated to fast interception with weapon systems that support it GÇô in order, energy turrets, missiles, hybrid turrets, projectile turrets.
They need to have at least some of the bonus that an interceptor gets (reduced MWD signature) to really be more useful. The Caldari Condor and it's T2 variants both need some speed increase, as they are by far the slowest of any race. That would be 'Fine' if they kept the Caldari ability to be agile and fast aligning... but they are no better than any other race, which would at least allow them to orbit faster, despite the reduced speed. Both the T1 and T2 Caldari fast frigates have significant issues with capacitor and fitting when using Hybrids, a Raptor for example is hard to make both fast, and cap stable with a warp disruptor and rails and comes in 2000 m/s slower than the Amarr Malediction and has identical align time with a speed fit. The Condor should act as a base for an eventual overhaul of their agility or speed.
But anyway, keep up the good work I look forward to the changes and using these ships more in Faction Warfare
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Ponder Yonder
Fleet of the Damned
Ace of Spades.
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:59:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:
Magnate, Heron, Imicus, Probe: strengthening current roles as support frigates. Which mainly means scanning and possibly mini-profession operations, like hacking and codebreaking as well.
Two suggestions:
1. Please add remote repping and salvaging bonusses to the above ships as well.
2. Since you are overhauling the barges, how about giving us a dedicated gas miner?
Anyway, great changes. |
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