i have a better suggestion instead.

If players are abandoning null and/or chose to remain in hisec, then develop hisec and backburn nullsec.

Nullsec is bleeding from self-inflicted wounds, and it would be foolish to make everyone else pay the price for nullsec's succesful failure.

Picture this: A null-sec system, even just one single system, held by an alliance or, heck, even a single corp that is not at war with anyone. They don't put up disruption fields, they don't gate camp, they don't go around blasting everyone without cause because (gasp!) they actually want tourists and traders to come through their area. They actually want miners to come to their belts and use their refineries. They actually want industrialists to contract them for blueprint and production services. They actually understand that, in the long run, there is more profit to be made by letting traders dock unmolested every day than there is by blowing up their ships.

Now factor in that the Universal Law of every null-sec alliance is "Not us? KOS" and that they flood their access points with disruption fields, tacklers & general gank blobs set with AFK "auto-kill" combat macros (oh the irony) 24/7,

Look through and count how many of these null-sec players want to lure hi-sec players into null-sec for the sole reasons of "moar to shoot at lulz."

Note also how many of these same people want to basically eliminate CONCORD entirely so that they can expand their seal clubbing into hi-sec space as well, where there are plenty of newbies to tear into unsubscribing entirely (something which I'm sure CCP cares about, even if the null-sec people don't).

Now factor in that the Universal Law of every null-sec alliance is "Not us? KOS"

and that they flood their access points with disruption fields

tacklers & general gank blobs set with AFK "auto-kill" combat macros (oh the irony) 24/7

That some people in nullsec feel that nullsec is stagnating is a problem born of the people in nullsec. That has no connection whatsoever to hisec. When your alliance tells you, "stay in these systems or we shoot you ourselves" you know there is something wrong with that community.

There's a reason for that. If you don't know why, have a chat with CVA and the providence inhabitants about how much work it is to maintain a NRDS list instead.

Picture this: Someone hotdropping the miners as part of economic warfare. Using supercaps to flip the station and make money off the firesales.

I agree that stuff like that is not only possible but also likely. But again, who is to blame for it?

If trust is the most valuable commodity in the game, then "not being an a-hole" would be a close second. Sadly, there is only one Cribba.

0.0 is about empire building. That's why there's sov, that's why there's alliances, that's why you get your name on the map. Scrublord 'guudfitz' lowsec roamers, friendless highsec nobodies, and anyone who bleats about "blobbing" lacks any understanding of null. Null is about building empires, massive wars, and the like. A good null design includes a place for you - as serfs - because people with the will to power to create a nullsec empire need peasant villages to raze and plunder. But with your narrow-minded concerns over scraping isk from rocks, you lack the vision to have any meaningful input on the design of null, aside from suggesting what sort of salt lick would attract you.

Reduce The numbers of Null sec systems.

Increase seriously the ressources in Planetary.

Reduce the Bubble In null sec ( please) or remove them.

Increase The bountys on the rats in the belts.

Of course, we could fix that by upping the tax rate in hisec, I suppose.

Some said in this thread 0.0 is about empirebuilding ... then great, build a empire and run it like a empire, do you let people (friendly industrial type) into it ? or you shoot at anything not blue ?

Spoken like a good little Visigoth. You use phrases like GÇ£empire buildingGÇ¥ and GÇ£building empiresGÇ¥ without giving any thought to what you are actually saying. You arenGÇÖt interested in building anything really GÇô all you are interested in is GÇ£empire destroyingGÇ¥. The only aspect of the game that you want to engage in is the bit where you blow up something that someone else has built.

1. I think eliminating jump bridges would be a great place to start. When one alliance is able to project power across the whole map then the map is too small. Eliminate JB networks and you restrict the reach (and therefore influence) of any particular alliance and open up huge tracts of Null that are currently vacant for use. The second affect that eliminating JBGÇÖs would have is that it would make logistics much harder with the consequence that it would become preferable to establish industry in null and not just buy in Jita and haul out. This would have to be accompanied by other changes to make null sec industry more viable.

2.Eliminate GÇ£sovereignty by destructionGÇ¥. Implement a new system of sovereignty whereby it changes hands at gun point, but the mechanic to retain it is based on activity in the system and some sort of GÇ£gross system productGÇ¥ metric
I think this would make null sec a far more interesting place for a much wider range of players and encourage a wider range of play styles not just the current visigoths.
LetGÇÖs put the GÇ£buildingGÇ¥ back in to GÇ£empire buildingGÇ¥ and make sov more than just a colour change on a map.

And that's our empire. We've built it. We've got some "friendly industrial types" who insist on doing mining and such in our space, but not many because of the risk/reward system etc.

So, again, what more do you want? NRDS?

This is NOT an us vs. them issue. Stop treating it as such.

Don't really want more expensive ships but if I lose 200m ISK worth of ship and fittings i should get 200m ISK from my insurance payout. Thats how insurance works, I know if I write my car off in an accident or if it is stolen my insurance will cover the replacement cost.

I can not get on board with this. If the loss of a ship means nothing what is it really worth then?

Some said in this thread 0.0 is about empirebuilding ... then great, build a empire and run it like a empire, do you let people (friendly industrial type) into it ? or you shoot at anything not blue ?
Unless you want to build a empire there then don't expect people to move out there... I'm a industrialist and I move where the people are so if people left high-sec I would have to leave too or I would not have anyone to sell to right ?

I don't expect Concord in 0.0 but if a Alliance did build a empire and let people come there I would like them to be a sort of "police" for the empire too.

Yeah that would be nice :-)

so when can I expect free passage into your empire to do my biddings ?

If you guys have built a empire, why is it empty ? I watch the map and I don't see so many pilots in your empire, even goons have moved to empire-space (High-sec) why ?

But it is, it have always been US vs THEM in this game, industrialists and miners vs PvP'ers (or rather .. angry bored pvp'ers).
PvP'ers that lack targets ... (or more correctly ... easy targets)

So far at almost 9 million skill points for me Null sec has been the same as high just with a slightly higher chance of being killed by Stealth bombers. Living in AAA space is nice, and the war fronts are clearer than the trench fronts in WW1.

I think EVE just sometimes get stuck in a "Slog" not been many great wars lately to rouse the empires, but as it is right now things seem to be heating up.

Except that this thread is not about industrialists vs. PvP. It is about null sec residents having to create alts to run L4s because the income vs effort ratio in Null is not as great as it is for running L4 missions.

It is about an industrial complex in space that they own being unremarkable at best and just completely ****ed at the worst.

It is about high sec residents being able to live, work, and play in high sec with little risk (suicide ganking is a risk but in Null there is not always suicide involved with ganking a miner or a mission/sanctum runner). Meanwhile, Null Sec residents can not live, work, and play in null sec independently. They can not make sufficient ISK on an individual level to fund their other activities. This is something that I think the standard High Sec resident takes for granted.

Here's an idea and again please bear in mind my ignorance despite this thread making me a little more enlightened. Why sell Technetium and other commodities in Empire Market Hubs? Sell them in low sec (or set up a market hub in Null?) and force people who want to engage in T2 construction to either come buy it in Null or not build T2 at all. Then have all T2 construction take place in Null and sell the ships in the same market hub. Want a new Hulk for your high sec mining ops? Come on down to 0.0 - we sell them dirt cheap down here.

# Tell your CEO you want isk of the Tech Moons you own.

# Tell CCP to buff Missions / Rats in 0.0 which will lead to higher Inflation so you up the Tax on everything, everywhere to compensate.

Many, if not all, alliances with tech moons have extensive ship replacement programmes.

I know. The whining wannabe 0.0 girl does obviously not.