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CCP_Fallout

Singularity is now open to players according to QA

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Originally by: Lee ChanKa

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if this will make server to work better go go go...good word don't surrender!!!


i watched 30 narutos today lol

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Originally by: PI Mike

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Dear Fail CCP Network Engineers and Management

Did you not test run anything before committing to action? Does your Management Team not know anything about project management?

Iceland must be in dire shortage of competent IT and Management "Professionals" if such a MASSIVE (over 100% now) deadline overrun does not even garner an apology to paying customers.

You fail, but luckily your game doesn't.

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Originally by: Cynical Attitude

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Originally by: Aslan Inbarr

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I have to say I'm amazed that there are people who play and understand eve that actually took the initial downtime estimate seriously.

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You're amazed that Eve players assumed a basic level of competence at CCP. I doubt the point you are thus making was quite the one you intended. Yes, it's a complex task, but CCP's inability to come up with a realistic ETC is simply not good enough.

I haven't read every post in this topic, but the majority of the complaints are not, as you seem to think, about the length of time the changes are taking but the overrun. If CCP had originally given an ETC of 23:00, you would be making a valid point. They didn't. You aren't.

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Originally by: Sublunar

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CCP here is a good business advise for you: be impeccable with your word.
If you promise something will be done by the given time, you should be 100% sure that you can keep your word no matter what.

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Perhaps in Iceland not keeping a promise is not a big deal, but EVE is international product and many people won't tollerate that. It's just very unprofessional.

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Originally by: Cannonfodder1982

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p.s 5 minute post timer? wow thats excessive

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Originally by: CCP Dropbear

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rofl

edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.

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Originally by: LordSwift

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oh this is just gold. I need to get more popcorn. Although i agree with many responses about ccp setting a huge dt window for themselves next time.
You can all keep dreaming about being reimburst. Personally i expected this delay and set a lonnnng skill. Keep up the good work ccp.
Oh i cant wait to read the forums when the servers go down for normal dt 2moro. Thats if they get them up anytime soon.

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Originally by: Brother Paulan

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Dear CCP,

Your extended-extended-extended downtime caused me brain damage due to the extensive whining/emoraging that I had to read on your forums.
Could I please be reinbursemened for medical care.

Thank you, and keep up the good work.
BP

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Originally by: Pat26

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if you look at this :

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=769

try to understand about moving this stuff.

1-unplug all
2-move all
3-plug all
4-try to figure out which cord is not plug at the right place
5-Edit this post to tell people server is back online

It take time, YES
They always tell server will be back at UTC X-hour, YES
It's often reported, YES

But who know the work it represent to move those kind of server? Not much of us.

For anything else --> MasterCard XD

fly safe guys
hummmm well when we will be able to go back IG :P

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Originally by: Hofstadter's Law

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It always takes longer than you think it will, even if you take Hofstadter's Law into account.

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Originally by: wizechatmgr

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As someone that has previously deployed a 400 unit cluster, you people have no clue the amount of stuff required to set something like this up.

You have to pull each rack out, install power, network, do your cross links, hook up no less than 4 cables per server and cut your hands on sharp metal edges. This isn't "A" server, it is a cluster of servers. It isn't like you just move one unit and your done. Now keep in mind they are also overhauling their existing network as well. Frankly, doing it under 72 hours seems like a dream.

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Originally by: Aslan Inbarr

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Edited by: Aslan Inbarr on 23/06/2010 22:01:19

Originally by: Cynical Attitude

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Originally by: Aslan Inbarr

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I have to say I'm amazed that there are people who play and understand eve that actually took the initial downtime estimate seriously.

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You're amazed that Eve players assumed a basic level of competence at CCP. I doubt the point you are thus making was quite the one you intended. Yes, it's a complex task, but CCP's inability to come up with a realistic ETC is simply not good enough.

I haven't read every post in this topic, but the majority of the complaints are not, as you seem to think, about the length of time the changes are taking but the overrun. If CCP had originally given an ETC of 23:00, you would be making a valid point. They didn't. You aren't.

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CCP, like any other gaming company out there, is going to put out their best (case) estimate. They are very rarely accurate. Therefore people are quite naive to believe them. That was my point. I expect a bit more wisdom, or at least cynicism, out of the Eve crowd.

As for the first part, you are right, I could have worded that a bit better.

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Originally by: Gierling

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Tech III is going to be "Fully modular" until someone crams the "EW Bonus" modules together with the "8 Midslots" modules...

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Originally by: Skera

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Originally by: Skera

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hope its just jitters, but i've noticed that the api feed claims in evemon that my char suddenly takes 10 ekstra days for training! on one char its 15 days extra, than before dt, but generally 10+ days added!

Exception is for low rank skills though..

The noticable thing is for capital industrial ships before dt it was around 38 days now its 46 days,
other example is gallente carrier 5, before 42 days now 56 days..

I hope this is just due to the fact that server is not up yet!

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anyone else notice the same bug ?

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EULA: 11 PROPRIETARY RIGHTS , B. Rights to Certain Content
You have no interest in the value of your time spent playing the Game, for example, by the building up of the experience level of your character and the items your character accumulates during your time playing the Game. Your Account, and all attributes of your Account, including all corporations, actions, groups, titles and characters, and all objects, currency and items acquired, developed or delivered by or to characters as a result of play through your Accounts, are the sole and exclusive property of CCP, including any and all copyrights and intellectual property rights in or to any and all of the same, all of which are hereby expressly reserved.

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EULA: 12. NO WARRANTIES

The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game.

CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software.

While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures.

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TOS:
CCP MAY FIND IT NECESSARY ON OCCASION TO MAKE CHANGES TO OR RESET CERTAIN PARAMETERS OF THE PERSISTENT GAME WORLD MECHANICS, INTERFACE OR FEATURES OF EVE ONLINE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN GAME BALANCE AND ENHANCE PLAYABILITY OR PERFORMANCE FOR ITS SUBSCRIBERS. THESE CHANGES MAY AFFECT OR CAUSE SETBACKS FOR THE CHARACTERS YOUÆVE CREATED.

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Originally by: Baenus

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Originally by: Pat26

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if you look at this :

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=769

try to understand about moving this stuff.

1-unplug all
2-move all
3-plug all
4-try to figure out which cord is not plug at the right place
5-Edit this post to tell people server is back online

It take time, YES
They always tell server will be back at UTC X-hour, YES
It's often reported, YES

But who know the work it represent to move those kind of server? Not much of us.

For anything else --> MasterCard XD

fly safe guys
hummmm well when we will be able to go back IG :P

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Try to understand COMPETENT server migration
1. set up new hardware and test connections BEFORE shutting old server down.
2.On migration day test new hardware to ascertain no connections are bad
3.perform migration.
4.Boot new cluster up and run diagnostics
5. open for connections and lastly
6.Profit???

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