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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:53:00 -
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Hello all,
We have successfully moved our Tranquility servers to their new location, and Tranquility is scheduled to return to service at 23:00 UTC. Our original plan was to have the Web sites and Tranquility returned to service at 15:00 UTC, however, during the move we discovered network and SAN switch issues, which resulted in an extended service return delay. We have resolved those issues, and are working on returning Tranquility to service as quickly as possible.
Thank you all for your patience while we undertook this necessary server move. For more information about the move itself, please check out CCP YokaiÆs dev blog .
Fallout
Associate Community Manager
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Chr0nosX
Habitual Euthanasia
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:53:00 -
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First
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: HeliosGal on 23/06/2010 20:55:21
2130 Not a bad effort for such a big upgrade. Just going to see if this helps with lag or not. The hamsters now have mroe room to move and air conditioning
This is good will be a lot of people trying to refuel poses, do PI stuff and so forth so more moving targets.
Im hoping as well all the anamolies and cosmic signatures are respawned
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Zeizara
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: Zeizara on 23/06/2010 20:53:53
THIRD! and im about to fall asleep lol
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Taxesarebad
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: Taxesarebad on 23/06/2010 20:55:43
first page
anyways i hope this means we has sexy new servers?
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pshepherd
Caldari
Black-Messa
Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:55:00 -
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Let us in Plz :( |
Hickock
Caldari
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:55:00 -
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ground floor
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triplleboy
Caldari
Toy Makers
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:55:00 -
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Woehoeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee now lets play, i hope
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witchking42
Swag Co.
Sandbox Bullies
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:56:00 -
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w00t
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Rebal 88
Minmatar
Koalition of Konsiderably Kourteous Kapsuleers
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:56:00 -
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I hope the new hamsters will do well! |
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T' Elk
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:56:00 -
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first page :D
[url=http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=T%27%20Elk][/u |
Barakkus
Spacelane Innovation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:56:00 -
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Internet Spaceship Srsbznz
 Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Julienne Poirier
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:56:00 -
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whats a few hours off anyways
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Kha'Alpha
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:56:00 -
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Are we being reimbursed for loss of game time?
I certainly hope so!
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Eternus Nox
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:56:00 -
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Anyone else notice that the eve site now loads lightning fast? New servers ftw!
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Bedrock
Reikoku
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:57:00 -
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Server Rollback incoming!
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scottish hoon
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:57:00 -
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so we gotta wait till 00:00 gmt to get on eve i bet it still wont be up 
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LoveKebab
Caldari
LOST IDEA
C0VEN
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:57:00 -
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i see some progres, this time only 9h delay :)
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Beauregard Jackson
Minmatar
Old Bastards Club
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:57:00 -
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CCP has done a heck of a hardware upgrade in just a few hours. Thanks for all the hard work in trying to make our gaming experience better.
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Illwill Bill
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:57:00 -
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Edited by: Illwill Bill on 23/06/2010 20:58:30
First page, woo!
Were those problems with the old equipment, or with the new gear, btw?
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herbert rogers
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Hello all,
We have successfully moved our Tranquility servers
For a given value of successful
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Sealiah
Minmatar
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:57:00 -
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Edited by: Sealiah on 23/06/2010 20:57:42
The coffee is running out! Please let us in or we'll fall asleep :(
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gtmh
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:58:00 -
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will servers be reset or will it be like eve never went offline ?
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CaptCole
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:58:00 -
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O joy more waiting come on ccp sort it out lads
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MrOaks
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:58:00 -
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and i thought i might actually get to bed before 5am today...
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Nuadi
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:58:00 -
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Thanks guys! Keep up the good work!
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ZeeWolf
Norfolk Heavy Industries
Stellar Union
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:58:00 -
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Next time give an outrageous time of like 2 days, and when it comes back up sooner we can praise you instead of ridicule.
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Zekk Pacus
Caldari
RPS holdings
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:58:00 -
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<insert some rage here>
Seriously, don't publish deadlines. 1500 has now turned into 2300 - what's the betting it won't be up at 0700 tomorrow when I go to work?
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Zarofdium
Caldari
Imperial Syndicate Forces
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:59:00 -
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Some things are worth waiting for.
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Tallaran Kouros
Caldari
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:59:00 -
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And they couldn't have pointed the website to a static page somewhere in order to post updates on why the move was late?
Shocking customer service tbh.
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Eternus Nox
Anyone else notice that the eve site now loads lightning fast? New servers ftw!
May have more to do with 20k to 40k people not being logged in to the game.
Originally by: Signature
Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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SheriffFruitfly
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:59:00 -
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Pretty sure you broke something. The eve-o forums load fast, like any other website. This is not the eve-o forums I know.
Where can I file a bug report?
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:59:00 -
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Time really passes slowly when you can't play EVE while you want to...
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Want to learn combat/PVP?
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TheGreatDoc
Minmatar
Princeps Corp
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Hello all,
We have successfully moved our Tranquility servers to their new location, and Tranquility is scheduled to return to service at 23:00 UTC. Our original plan was to have the Web sites and Tranquility returned to service at 15:00 UTC, however, during the move we discovered network and SAN switch issues, which resulted in an extended service return delay. We have resolved those issues, and are working on returning Tranquility to service as quickly as possible.
Thank you all for your patience while we undertook this necessary server move. For more information about the move itself, please check out CCP YokaiÆs dev blog .
Pics or it didnt happen
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Yin Chan
Caldari
WATAG Academy
White Noise.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 20:59:00 -
[35]
Really, is is that hard to set estimated time for server to come online a few hours later from the beginning? Eh, always the same problems in all MMOs.
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Katja Saitou
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kha'Alpha
Are we being reimbursed for loss of game time?
I certainly hope so!
Does ~16 cents really mean that much to you? 
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Teibor
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2010 20:58:29
What did you do during their lack of product availability?
During the downtime I checked out their competitor products.
I for one cannot wait until KOTOR is released :)
i thought you might have tried working out a new scam instead of the usual Hulk one that you seem to use.
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cluster 1
Gallente
GTE Limited
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Eternus Nox
Anyone else notice that the eve site now loads lightning fast? New servers ftw!
or maybe they have been relived of their duty to run an internet spaceship game. i for one think that all the bandwidth should be used for the forums from now on, who wants space pixles anyway
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eliminator2
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:00:00 -
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hope iv got all my stuff in-game still to bad i gotta wait till tomorrow to actually come in, was hoping to get home from work today and have a relaxin 3 hours on eve now iv got bordem stress and have to wait till tomorrow for eve *sigh* today didnt go to plan at all ffs
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SFShootme
The Carebear Stare
Hydroponic Zone
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:00:00 -
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any more scheduled delays?
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Triple Entendre
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
And they couldn't have pointed the website to a static page somewhere in order to post updates on why the move was late?
Shocking customer service tbh.
They had no opportunity to. They needed everyone available to stop Tux from testing the Big Red Button's new response time.
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Confirming that I am the best poster. I realize no one asked but confirming it regardless.
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James Foley
CBC Interstellar
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:01:00 -
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are we there yet?
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Jean hunt
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:01:00 -
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what a bunch of brown noses u computer geeks are......CCP have done a great job moving server in such a short time !!!
FFS I hope they re-imburse the loss of time
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Elessar Elian
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:01:00 -
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For future reference, from this point on double your ETA and everyone will be happy, you for having more time to do stuff and players since they'll go "oh the server is up early" or "good, server up on time" and not "12 hours late? wait, is that triple score or what?"
If you WERE doubling ETA, quadruple it.
Congratz on the move anyway.
Of those who say nothing, few are silent |
Lord XSiV
Amarr
Digital Research - Omega Protocol
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:01:00 -
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Serves them right for going with Cisco junk.....
Maybe they will learn this time? Hopefully the new guy will put them on the right path....
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Tia Tzu
Caldari
G.E.A.R.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:01:00 -
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I will 100% be petitioning for the lost time to be added to my subscription i am not paying a monthly fee to be fed false deadlines and waste pretty much the whole day waiting.
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Zaboth Garadath
Amarr
No Limit Productions
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: Zaboth Garadath on 23/06/2010 21:02:21
Holy **** The eve-o website loads as fast as google for me now. 
Yay CCP!
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Diluain
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
And they couldn't have pointed the website to a static page somewhere in order to post updates on why the move was late?
Shocking customer service tbh.
You mean somewhere like this?
http://twitter.com/CCPGames/ccp
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Hardass01
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:01:00 -
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Tbh i knew this was gonna be a long haul i cant remember ccp ever getting there upgrades done on time.
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Omal Oma
Shadowed Command
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:02:00 -
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wow, the forums are quick.
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Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: ZeeWolf
Next time give an outrageous time of like 2 days, and when it comes back up sooner we can praise you instead of ridicule.
This is always the best solution, especially when you're doing hardware.
Worst pilot in Goonfleet.
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Tiberius T
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:02:00 -
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Only one thing to say to you, really: FU
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bluenzo
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: bluenzo on 23/06/2010 21:02:10
SECOND PAGE! Damn im slow...
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Salarc
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tia Tzu
I will 100% be petitioning for the lost time to be added to my subscription i am not paying a monthly fee to be fed false deadlines and waste pretty much the whole day waiting.
Excellent. Now all the real petitions will be delayed as they sort through this bull****.
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Larg Kellein
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:02:00 -
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Gah, I need my fix (or insulin, as I managed to drag some people into Hello Kitty while TQ was down. There's a distinct lack of exploding spaceships over there.)
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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
And they couldn't have pointed the website to a static page somewhere in order to post updates on why the move was late?
Shocking customer service tbh.
We actually did have a static page that we kept updated with delay times. We also updated our Facebook page, and I think I don't want to see Twitter again for a few days :)
Fallout
Associate Community Manager
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Gillbird
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
"during the move we discovered network and SAN switch issues"
=> preordered cables was too short 
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which resulted in an extended service return delay. We have resolved those issues, and are working on returning Tranquility to service as quickly as possible.
=> someone had to pick up new cables from local computer store 
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Katja Saitou
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tia Tzu
I will 100% be petitioning for the lost time to be added to my subscription i am not paying a monthly fee to be fed false deadlines and waste pretty much the whole day waiting.
You didn't expect issues when you move a super computer? Heh.
Does ~16 cents really mean that much to you?
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Gwaidon Kwai
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:03:00 -
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The effort to Do This Stuff ALWAYS takes longer than planned. How about doubling the time you think it is going to take and then exceed everyones expectations by returning the service to your customers early?
I've been doing that for migration / deployment projects for over 20 years and it rarely catches me out wheras it seems to hit you guys every time.... and there is nothing like the sound of IT dudes/dudets and savvy gamers baying for blood and comp time and clogging up the forums with idle threats of going elsewhere when we know full well there is nowhere so awesome to go :)
..and picking the day of a crucial World Cup match to carry out this kind of upgrade must have been torture for the guys in London.
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Frug
Omega Wing
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
And they couldn't have pointed the website to a static page somewhere in order to post updates on why the move was late?
Shocking customer service tbh.
We actually did have a static page that we kept updated with delay times. We also updated our Facebook page, and I think I don't want to see Twitter again for a few days :)
Shocking how some people will complain without actually knowing what it is they're complaining about or bothering to check.
There was a static page with surprisingly useful links on it, like stuff to read on the eve-uni wiki about planets and such.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: CaptCole
O joy more waiting come on ccp sort it out lads
It also loaded lightning fast prior to the upgrade for me, so I am unable to gain excitement for myself from that. I hope you do, however.
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Karia Sur
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:04:00 -
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lol i like the subtle change from the original resumption time that was in the first post to the new time that has miraculously appeared..
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Belgarath Sorcerer
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Katja Saitou
Originally by: Kha'Alpha
Are we being reimbursed for loss of game time?
I certainly hope so!
Does ~16 cents really mean that much to you?
You're kidding aren't you, its nigh on 2 days of downtime if you take the Tyrannis patch into account as well
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Laviski
UK Corp
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:05:00 -
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ccp guys seriously your time keeping is rather unbelieveably gone past ****e. Stop post times for return to service unless you can garanteee that time.
I would be much happier if you said
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the Tranquility (TQ) cluster will be down for maintenance on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 from 0900 to Thursday, June 24, 2010 at 0900 UTC
at least you can garantee that and if you gets things working sooner that expected the more praise you get like for example the daily downtime is supposed to be 1 hour but majority of the time its less than that.
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CCP Adida
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:05:00 -
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cleared of spam and off topic comments.
Adida
Community Rep
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Seraphina Oriana
Disciples of Night
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
We actually did have a static page that we kept updated with delay times. We also updated our Facebook page, and I think I don't want to see Twitter again for a few days :)
Awww.... but @clanoriana loves your twitter feed. :) *hugs*
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Julienne Poirier
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: Julienne Poirier on 23/06/2010 21:08:18
Originally by: Elessar Elian
For future reference, from this point on double your ETA and everyone will be happy, you for having more time to do stuff and players since they'll go "oh the server is up early" or "good, server up on time" and not "12 hours late? wait, is that triple score or what?"
If you WERE doubling ETA, quadruple it.
Congratz on the move anyway.
indeed
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Miilla
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:06:00 -
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Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2010 21:08:37
Originally by: CCP Adida
cleared of spam and off topic comments.
You mean you deleted my post about KOTOR. Why? I just stated what I did during the extended downtime. I checked out other games. I also played HL2 again, and some others I bought.
Why is it bad that I wrote what I did during downtime?
At least im not crying demanding a refund like the others :)
Does KOTOR competing with EVE actually scare you?
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Jay Wareth
Amici Noctis
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: gtmh
will servers be reset or will it be like eve never went offline ?
You must be new here.
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NathanNever
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:06:00 -
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Edited by: NathanNever on 23/06/2010 21:06:38
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Hello all,
, however, during the move we discovered network and SAN switch issues, which resulted in an extended service return delay. We have resolved those issues, and are working on returning Tranquility to service as quickly as possible.
you need this: http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~ballard/bofh/bofhserver.pl
may be you can link it during extended downtimes
good luck with the fix!
(2 D and 8h of skilling left... gogo dev team!)
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Zavulon Sukkot
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:06:00 -
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Can we get a name & shame CCP?
I'm sure the network admins in the crowd woud love to know what e****ent had issues and why!
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Maeve Trinity
Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:07:00 -
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Thanks for the steady updates guys! We <3 You! Even tho my skill queue did go empty an hour ago X(
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Katja Saitou
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Belgarath Sorcerer
Originally by: Katja Saitou
Originally by: Kha'Alpha
Are we being reimbursed for loss of game time?
I certainly hope so!
Does ~16 cents really mean that much to you?
You're kidding aren't you, its nigh on 2 days of downtime if you take the Tyrannis patch into account as well
You'd rather have them never update the game? - It's 1 USD / Euro 
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scarlett 02
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:07:00 -
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Hey fallout
not everybody is that sad that we do twitter of face book.......and where was that page again ?? .....it was no where near eveonline.com ( the eve website btw )
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Asketus
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:07:00 -
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ok. goodluck and gn8.
Asketus/pizzakiller
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Teibor
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Belgarath Sorcerer
Originally by: Katja Saitou
Originally by: Kha'Alpha
Are we being reimbursed for loss of game time?
I certainly hope so!
Does ~16 cents really mean that much to you?
You're kidding aren't you, its nigh on 2 days of downtime if you take the Tyrannis patch into account as well
you mean the update page which has been down as much as its been up today......there have been numerous times over the past 5 hours where the log-in screen or the update page said zilch.
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Maximillion Carter
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:07:00 -
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Stop moaning, I think everyone here at some point or other in their jobs has had it take longer than expected, no matter how much planning there are always unforseen problems, especially in the server / infrastructure.
I'm sending virtual pizza's to the guys in the data centre as they;ll need 'em  !!
Here's hoping TQ is just as speedy as the forums seem to be now.
wk42.
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wizard87
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:08:00 -
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Since the upgrade the game seems 10x better, there's no lag, no bugs and the servers just seem so much....cooler.
Nah not really, I've not even logged in and I'm not going to coz the game is still boring. 
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Khalin Gwah
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Khalin Gwah on 23/06/2010 21:09:22
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
And they couldn't have pointed the website to a static page somewhere in order to post updates on why the move was late?
Shocking customer service tbh.
We actually did have a static page that we kept updated with delay times. We also updated our Facebook page, and I think I don't want to see Twitter again for a few days :)
The Static page lacked dynamic updates and was itself down at times. FB was about the best but the updates on the delay were reminicent of my school report 'could do better'
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Balkor Wolf
Gallente
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:09:00 -
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Id like to say LOL and STFU to all you idiots who are complaining about this, Everyone complains about lag and now CCP are working on fixing it your now complaining because you cant get a few hours of game time today? Why dont you take this chance to get off your fat asses and go outside?
On a happier note, Thanks for actually doing this CCP ^_^ Great work as always and thanks for keeping updates on delays instead of leaving it for people to guess when it will be back online.
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Zheng Guo
Lucian Alliance
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:09:00 -
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when the lag is a little bit better after you done iam fine with waiting
also i heard the Hamsters need some time befor theycan start the work in a new home
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TheGreatDoc
Minmatar
Princeps Corp
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:09:00 -
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My post about pics wasnt spam or offtopic. We was promised to have pics about the movement.
/emorage
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:09:00 -
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Dear CCP,
I did expect nothing less than a major delay. In fact have I prepared for a delay of up to 8 days and changed my skill queue accordingly. You are still good for another 7 days.
Out of interest, how did you get to those estimated 6 hours? Did you test what you had planned to do or did you throw a dice?
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Amaron Ghant
Caldari
Tritanium Space Whales
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:09:00 -
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Well so far I've managed to eat, shower, sleep, discover squatters in my house (they claim to be family, but meh you can't trust anyone these days)and generally finish off a lot of things that take longer than an hour.
Photos of the new server room please, so that certain whiners can see exactly how much work was involved.
It's not quite the same as unplugging the commodore from your mothers basement and moving it to your new room under the stairs. |
SheriffFruitfly
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:09:00 -
[85]
Hey ccp: your reply-quote seems to be off by one index. I click on, say, replyquote to comment 30, and get the quote from comment 31.
Eyeballing it, it appears that the replyquote linky is correct. I suspect it's just hitting the wrong index in the db. Would suspect a trivial zero-based coding error somewhere.
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Belgarath Sorcerer
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:10:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Katja Saitou
Originally by: Belgarath Sorcerer
Originally by: Katja Saitou
Originally by: Kha'Alpha
Are we being reimbursed for loss of game time?
I certainly hope so!
Does ~16 cents really mean that much to you?
You're kidding aren't you, its nigh on 2 days of downtime if you take the Tyrannis patch into account as well
You'd rather have them never update the game? - It's 1 USD / Euro
Not at all, but those 2 days lost could be added onto the end of our subscriptions. Its not about the money because you're right thats minimal, but I would like those 2 days back.
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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:10:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Karia Sur
lol i like the subtle change from the original resumption time that was in the first post to the new time that has miraculously appeared..
No conspiracy: I forgot to update the post I had prepared even though I knew the new time :D
But note that I will, if needed, update the post again, and will indicate that the post is changed in the subject of the thread.
Fallout
Associate Community Manager
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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eliminator2
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:10:00 -
[88]
did they switch back to old server? it was loading really fast for me but now its loadin like a snail moving
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I met Eliminator1..... I chewed it up, and spat it out. Now, he is my minion.
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XB7O
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:10:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
And they couldn't have pointed the website to a static page somewhere in order to post updates on why the move was late?
Shocking customer service tbh.
updates where posted on fb and twitter, I seriously hope u havent been sitting here hitting refresh for the past 5 hours lmao
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Elessar Elian
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:10:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Whitehound
Dear CCP,
I did expect nothing less than a major delay. In fact have I prepared for a delay of up to 8 days and changed my skill queue accordingly. You are still good for another 7 days.
Out of interest, how did you get to those estimated 6 hours? Did you test what you had planned to do or did you throw a dice?
I'm guessing they rolled a d6 instead of a d100 to figure out hours. Still, the god of Chaos returned the maximum possible result.
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Tallaran Kouros
Caldari
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:10:00 -
[91]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
And they couldn't have pointed the website to a static page somewhere in order to post updates on why the move was late?
Shocking customer service tbh.
We actually did have a static page that we kept updated with delay times. We also updated our Facebook page, and I think I don't want to see Twitter again for a few days :)
It may be that I've just bookmarked a static link to the forums, which was just giving a 404.
Was the static page on http://www.eveonline.com ?
If so, then I (I know, I know!) apologise and withdraw my earlier statement :)
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Titus Loken
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:11:00 -
[92]
Edited by: Titus Loken on 23/06/2010 21:11:33
Next time CCP, why not think - 15:30 is when we plan to have it done, slap on a few extra hours. Then if everything does go to plan people will get the impression you have finished early. Then everyone would be very happy at no extra work for yourselves :) |
Tiberius T
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:11:00 -
[93]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
And they couldn't have pointed the website to a static page somewhere in order to post updates on why the move was late?
Shocking customer service tbh.
We actually did have a static page that we kept updated with delay times. We also updated our Facebook page, and I think I don't want to see Twitter again for a few days :)
Can we next time, please for the love of god, have accurate timing ? Can u spare us and not keep us waiting till midnight just to tell us you're bringing the server up @ 3am in the morning (local time), this really, and I mean it, REALLY, gets my **** to a boil...
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T' Elk
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:11:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Bedrock
Server Rollback incoming!
Lol... You can keep hoping.
[url=http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=T%27%20Elk][/u |
Illwill Bill
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:11:00 -
[95]
Originally by: gtmh
will servers be reset or will it be like eve never went offline ?
No, although a full reset would be awesome!
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Acacia Everto
INTERNET HARBLRAGE
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:11:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Tia Tzu
I will 100% be petitioning for the lost time to be added to my subscription i am not paying a monthly fee to be fed false deadlines and waste pretty much the whole day waiting.
Well aren't you a brat?
Speaking from the role of an IT Professional, sometimes things don't always go the way they're planned. Suck it up. They've done an absolutely marvelous job. I personally thought they were cutting the downtime far short, we'd have scheduled a longer maintenance window for the same scale move.
You go move one of the larger supercomputing clusters in the world, scale it up, and do it faster without issues.
I'll go out on a limb here and say it's people like you who make IT a stressful and rarely rewarding industry.
That being said, CCP IT guys, I'd buy you a round.
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sue denim
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:11:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Katja Saitou
Originally by: Belgarath Sorcerer
Originally by: Katja Saitou
Originally by: Kha'Alpha
Are we being reimbursed for loss of game time?
I certainly hope so!
Does ~16 cents really mean that much to you?
You're kidding aren't you, its nigh on 2 days of downtime if you take the Tyrannis patch into account as well
You'd rather have them never update the game? - It's 1 USD / Euro
rather have not had them update it with tyrannis yah sure, it wasn't worth it :P
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Kha'Alpha
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:12:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Kha''Alpha on 23/06/2010 21:12:38
Originally by: Katja Saitou
Originally by: Belgarath Sorcerer
Originally by: Katja Saitou
Originally by: Kha'Alpha
Are we being reimbursed for loss of game time?
I certainly hope so!
Does ~16 cents really mean that much to you?
You're kidding aren't you, its nigh on 2 days of downtime if you take the Tyrannis patch into account as well
You'd rather have them never update the game? - It's 1 USD / Euro
SIMPLY not the point, we where given a deadline, a specific time, a time of completion, if this had been finished ON TIME, no one would care, but.....they have ran over by hours and hours, so now when tranq actually returns ALOT of EU players will be sleeping so we are essentially losing a full 24hours of gaming because of false promises.
Regardless of cost it is still worth reimbursement, and if it is such a small amount of money CCP wont have a problem actually reimbursing its customers for once and actually following the renowned "Customer Comes First" Remark,
Come on people stop brown nosing, and tell them exactly how you feel, we have been done out of too much gaming time here regardless of server upgrades.
If we had been told the server would be back up in 48hours no-one here would be complaining what so ever.
All i can say is get it sorted tbh
And ye what a waste tyrannis really is........one of the worst patched of all time.
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Astra Salire
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:12:00 -
[99]
My whine is not the delay, its information about the delay. This is not the first time CCP has given down time specifics and then gone way over. Please do us all a favor and schedule more time for your various updates/upgrades. Its always better to promise a long time and then deliver a shorter time. People are going to whine no matter what, but at least no one is making plans based on erroneous information. Thank you |
Dinta Zembo
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:12:00 -
[100]
Guys, seriously, the daily downtimes are supposed to be an hour and they usually last just 20 minutes..
What are you talking about getting a couple of hours reimbursed, think about the bright sides..
good servers = things get better 
Quite unfortunate that it was from 11 AM till 1 AM for me though, still wasted all day looking at the downtime ETA going up and up XD but still good job on CCP for the quick move.
By the way, what stupid * was talking about a server reset? You WANT that?
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Salarc
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:12:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Titus Loken
Next time CCP, why not think - 15:30 is when we plan to have it done, slap on a few extra hours and then if everything does go to plan people will get the impression you have finished early. Then everyone would be very happy at no extra work for yourselves :)
I assume they did do this. These things are very hard to estimate.
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M4A1cc
Gallente
Phoenix Industries
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:12:00 -
[102]
Are the skill points still running? Will there be an y loss in skill point training?
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Fact Foreman
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:13:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Kha'Alpha
Are we being reimbursed for loss of game time?
I certainly hope so!
Biggest game there is, most awarded, free expantions with huge new upgrades once in year or more, 55k players on 1 server, voice system ingame and the company thats running this is upgrading so we get better game.
They been doing great for 7 years now and surely do not deserve a STUPID question like this, go out and see how the sky look or go to a **** side, how long since you did take a bath last time, you seems to be adicted
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Nikon D
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:13:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Nikon D on 23/06/2010 21:13:13
Originally by: Kha'Alpha
Are we being reimbursed for loss of game time?
I certainly hope so!
NO! We are NOT, I repeat: NOT BEING REIMBURSED....You Idiot, can you not see that CCP is hard at work in producing a better quality of gaming experience?!
Look at it this way:
1 - Keep on gaming the way you are now and make due with the lag and traffic as we continue to grow.
-OR-
2 - Let us put in some overtime, the game will be offline, but in return we will have MORE room for current and future growth. An INCREASED ability to efficiently manage the current game AND with room to spare, we can safely assume that the networking issues like lag will be vastly improved over the current situation?
It is a gamble, but I will take #2.
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Aranoran
Progeniter Clee San
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:13:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Aranoran on 23/06/2010 21:13:02
CCP, if you are going to say there are problems and its going to take an extra 8 hours, dont bs all of us by first saying 1800, then 2100 and now 2300; set a time and stick to it!
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:13:00 -
[106]
Edited by: xAlexVladx on 23/06/2010 21:15:32
Originally by: Katja Saitou
Originally by: Kha'Alpha
Are we being reimbursed for loss of game time?
I certainly hope so!
Does ~16 cents really mean that much to you?
man dont everybody love these mathematicians ?
first of all 14.5 EUR divided by 30 days means ~48 cents per day, or approx 30c for 15 hours - learn arithmetics my dear, or at least learn how to use the windows calculator if division looks like too much for you. Second, these 15+ hours means one full day loss for many players in EUR TZ. Third, it seems 30c seems alot for CCP since they do not reimburse anyone ever. And fourth, since i am paying my accounts with plexes, a day loss means 10+ mil isk for each account. If that does mean nothing to you, ill be waiting for the isk transfer, thank you.
Originally by: Aranoran
Edited by: Aranoran on 23/06/2010 21:13:02
CCP, if you are going to say there are problems and its going to take an extra 8 hours, dont bs all of us by first saying 1800, then 2100 and now 2300; set a time and stick to it!
you dont think this is too much of an effort for them ? ryou really dont expect 30c * 55k players = 16500 EUR to be enough payment for updating a page dont you ?
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DragonHelm III
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:13:00 -
[107]
Jesus the forums are fast. I hope the game gets a big a boost as this
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Miilla
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:13:00 -
[108]
2300? ok what time is the server really online again?
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Zavulon Sukkot
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:13:00 -
[109]
And why the hell is 'q u i p' wordfiltered, especially as part of equipment?
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Libin Herobi
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:14:00 -
[110]
And it will be so epic when people realise this is supposed to help with maintenance and upgrades of the hardware and never intended and never will improve lag.
I'm waiting for some CCP dude to explain "well we never said it would improve performance so we did not break any promises"
just like the "post-dominion means some time after dominion - not the next release"
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A DeathDealer
Morne Attitude
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:14:00 -
[111]
Next time, just say 24hr downtime and if it comes up earlier \o/ for all of us. This whole "up at 15:00 I mean 21:00 I mean 23:00" is getting a bit old.
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Katja Saitou
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:14:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Kha'Alpha
SIMPLY not the point, we where given a deadline, a specific time, a time of completion
Which did not take into account the issues they ran into - don't complain that they can't stick to their estimated time due to an issue they did not foresee.
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eveess
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:14:00 -
[113]
just a quick note i would like to ask are we goin to b compensated for the loss of game time as i know with other online games they compensate players if servers are down longer then expected
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John Queen
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:15:00 -
[114]
Keep up the good work CCP ! Moving a server and having it set up in less than one day is exceptionnal considering the size of Tranquility.
However it would be normal to give one day to all players for the loss, even if it's only one CCP should feel concerned about the fact that every subscription gives an exact amount of time, all of this regardless of major updates and long downtimes.
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Teibor
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:15:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Libin Herobi
And it will be so epic when people realise this is supposed to help with maintenance and upgrades of the hardware and never intended and never will improve lag.
I'm waiting for some CCP dude to explain "well we never said it would improve performance so we did not break any promises"
just like the "post-dominion means some time after dominion - not the next release"
at least we wont need a DT tomorrow as the server will hardly be up before the scheduled DT.
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ViperTan
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:16:00 -
[116]
Originally by: eveess
just a quick note i would like to ask are we goin to b compensated for the loss of game time as i know with other online games they compensate players if servers are down longer then expected
How does the world work with muppets like you in it? Have you not read some of the previous posts in this thread?
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Angeles
Caldari
Federation of Freedom Fighters
En Garde
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:17:00 -
[117]
god damn lots of whining in this thread already, take as much time as needed to get TQ up and running smooth. Good work CCP.
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Raabe
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:17:00 -
[118]
"yes miss sophie. the same procedure as every year"
...or every patch day!
don¦t try to play eve on patch days.
nothing goes.
ccp, i love you 
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Katja Saitou
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:17:00 -
[119]
Originally by: xAlexVladx
man dont everybody love these mathematicians ?
first of all 14.5 EUR divided by 30 days means ~48 cents per day, or approx 30c for 15 hours - learn arithmetics my dear
We sure do love them - my rough estimate is for the time that it, so far, has gone past the first estimate...
And you do realize both USD and Euro uses cents, right? So, as I said - rough estimate.. notice the ~.
So yeah - think before you smack.
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smoopmeister
Caldari
Shadows of Light
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:17:00 -
[120]
Seriously, a lot of you need to learn to read your EVE ToS where it will enlighten you as to your entitlements during extended downtimes.
Quite a lot of people also have no clue what moving an entire live system to new hardware entails while ensuring no loss of data. This upgrade will benefit everyone.
For those of you incapable of setting long skill queues, tough ****.
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Salarc
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:18:00 -
[121]
Originally by: eveess
just a quick note i would like to ask are we goin to b compensated for the loss of game time as i know with other online games they compensate players if servers are down longer then expected
Other games charge for expansions as well. CCP is not obligated to do something just because other companies do.
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Vershin Ma
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:18:00 -
[122]
Originally by: M4A1cc
Are the skill points still running? Will there be an y loss in skill point training?
Is there ever a loss in skill point training? No... you'll be fine. I promise.
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Robdon
Baptism oF Fire
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:18:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Salarc
Originally by: Titus Loken
Next time CCP, why not think - 15:30 is when we plan to have it done, slap on a few extra hours and then if everything does go to plan people will get the impression you have finished early. Then everyone would be very happy at no extra work for yourselves :)
I assume they did do this. These things are very hard to estimate.
Errr, no they are not, if you know what you are doing.
I work on a huge system, and we always get it back up before or on the time estimate that we give.
Its what we get paid for.
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Spurty
Caldari
D00M.
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:20:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Kha'Alpha
Are we being reimbursed for loss of game time?
I certainly hope so!
Come in your biggest, shiniest ship to X-70. I've got "reimbursment" waiting there for you. Trade it outside top station.
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eveess
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:20:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Salarc
Originally by: eveess
just a quick note i would like to ask are we goin to b compensated for the loss of game time as i know with other online games they compensate players if servers are down longer then expected
Other games charge for expansions as well. CCP is not obligated to do something just because other companies do.
it was just a question as i am a new player
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Jean hunt
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:20:00 -
[126]
Quote:
Id like to say LOL and STFU to all you idiots who are complaining about this, Everyone complains about lag and now CCP are working on fixing it your now complaining because you cant get a few hours of game time today? Why dont you take this chance to get off your fat asses and go outside?
LOL at this fool !!
Pay 30 day tv sub only get 29 ....do you complain?
Pay for 30 items of grocery get 29 ....still say nothing??
Let people walk all over you ....Probably !!
CCP you owe us for lost time and the other guy....well......just grow a spine !!!
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John Queen
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:21:00 -
[127]
CCP is a big society which receives many incomes from Eve Online. As a serious and commercial society, CCP should give all members one more day as this is part of their service to offer updates and develop the game, whatever is the cost of the loss.
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Archlord Inquisitor
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:21:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Belgarath Sorcerer
Originally by: Katja Saitou
Originally by: Kha'Alpha
Are we being reimbursed for loss of game time?
I certainly hope so!
Does ~16 cents really mean that much to you?
You're kidding aren't you, its nigh on 2 days of downtime if you take the Tyrannis patch into account as well
so 32 cents...
Oh, and would like to give you all the advance notice that the next delay will be delayed until this delay is taken care of. After that, it will be delayed on schedule. They will give everyone a 100% training increase for 10 hours followed by a 10 hour 50% decrease in training time to average it out.
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:22:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Scout Ops
LMAO @ expected downtime...
first, to 15:00
then, to 18:00
then, to 21:00
now, to 23:00
WTF...
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Elessar Elian
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:22:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Elessar Elian on 23/06/2010 21:23:11
Originally by: smoopmeister
Seriously, a lot of you need to learn to read your EVE ToS where it will enlighten you as to your entitlements during extended downtimes.
Quite a lot of people also have no clue what moving an entire live system to new hardware entails while ensuring no loss of data. This upgrade will benefit everyone.
For those of you incapable of setting long skill queues, tough ****.
Hate to break it for you but most ppl are whining about the ETAs. I know what hell moving can be and the things you can stumble upon but when you fail to deliver after 2 ETA's you MUST have done something wrong: ESTIMATION. Make it 24h so everyone will be happy, don't leave your players refreshing eve-o to no avail.
ETC instead of ETA :D
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:22:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Scout Ops
LMAO @ expected downtime...
first, to 15:00
then, to 18:00
now, to 23:00
WTF...
future, to 25.06.2010
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Sir Rush
Caldari
Sirrush Holdings And Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:22:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Scout Ops
LMAO @ expected downtime...
first, to 15:00
then, to 18:00
now, to 23:00
WTF...
Sometimes, when something changes, you can run into unexpected problems. To fix these problems, you need an offline TQ, and extra time. Guess what happened? :)
Besides, if they just switched TQ on with the problems in place, you'd be whining even harder.
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Steijn
Minmatar
Ascension Ind
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:22:00 -
[133]
tbh I think a lot of the moaning in here about reimbursement etc. is entirely due to the failure of CCP to adequately time these upgrades/patches. If they wrote into the TOS that on every patch/upgrade day, the server could possibly be down for a maximum of 24 hours, you would remove 99% of the **** thats in here.
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Viae
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:23:00 -
[134]
Edited by: Viae on 23/06/2010 21:23:56
Edited by: Viae on 23/06/2010 21:23:15
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Hello all,
We have successfully moved our Tranquility servers to their new location, and Tranquility is scheduled to return to service at 23:00 UTC. Our original plan was to have the Web sites and Tranquility returned to service at 15:00 UTC, however, during the move we discovered network and SAN switch issues, which resulted in an extended service return delay. We have resolved those issues, and are working on returning Tranquility to service as quickly as possible.
Thank you all for your patience while we undertook this necessary server move. For more information about the move itself, please check out CCP YokaiÆs dev blog .
Update #1: EVE Gate is tied to Tranquility and will be down until TQ returns to service.
Not wanting to belittle what is a mammoth undertaking, I believe there should be a review of how this process was conducted which resulted in an almost doubling of lost time.
Was there numerous trial runs undertaken? If so, that would hopefully of highlighted the technical issue CCP encountered and resulted in a more accurate DT forecast? If not, what are CCP going to do about it?
Updating the customer: I personally found the information stream lacking with regards to updating the customer. All is takes is 20 seconds to update a facebook post and this was late, so late that there was time for CCP to post about something else before updating their customers. I personally feel a little let down, I know I can claim nothing back as CCP will be covered by the EULA.
I would just have liked some more respect shown to the people who provide a substantial amount of CCP's revenue.
Anyway, good luck with what work you have left.
Viae
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ProContractor
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:23:00 -
[135]
first, to 15:00
then, to 18:00
now, to 23:00
Now i know that you Icelander`s can`t use the watch
awesome work.. next time make it a 2 day one so we can be happy if it comes up early
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Acacia Everto
INTERNET HARBLRAGE
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:23:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Kha'Alpha
Edited by: Kha''Alpha on 23/06/2010 21:12:38
SIMPLY not the point, we where given a deadline, a specific time, a time of completion, if this had been finished ON TIME, no one would care, but.....they have ran over by hours and hours, so now when tranq actually returns ALOT of EU players will be sleeping so we are essentially losing a full 24hours of gaming because of false promises.
Regardless of cost it is still worth reimbursement, and if it is such a small amount of money CCP wont have a problem actually reimbursing its customers for once and actually following the renowned "Customer Comes First" Remark,
Come on people stop brown nosing, and tell them exactly how you feel, we have been done out of too much gaming time here regardless of server upgrades.
If we had been told the server would be back up in 48hours no-one here would be complaining what so ever.
All i can say is get it sorted tbh
And ye what a waste tyrannis really is........one of the worst patched of all time.
It's a game. Really guys. It's a game. Breathe.
Also, if they said 48 hours, the same people would be in here commenting about how ridiculous the downtime would be and be clamoring for the gametime back anyways. It really isn't that big of a deal. They do a helluva job.
Breathe. Relax. It'll be back soon. Grab a brew.
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Barakkus
Spacelane Innovation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:23:00 -
[137]
Edited by: Barakkus on 23/06/2010 21:23:41
Hate to break it to you guys, there is not a single gaming company that gives spot on ETAs when downtimes end 100% of the time.
If you can't handle the downtimes every once in a while then stop playing MMOs.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Illwill Bill
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:23:00 -
[138]
If the web page response times is any clue to the improved performance of the server, there's going to be a nice decrease in lag levels.
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Vershin Ma
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:23:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Yakumo Smith
Over estimate!
If a job takes X hours, we'll complain if you take longer than X. If you take less time than X we'll think you are great.
Feel free to use that tip in the future.
you could just.. you know... stop your *****ing and wait like the rest of us. At least CCP is trying to do something about their lag.
And to the rest of you! If you wanna keep your *****ing on, go play in traffic for breakfast. Do the world a favor.
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Izun
Caldari
Best Path Inc.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:24:00 -
[140]
Working in IT myself, i can't say how much stressful, hard and painful is to have someone near you watching and breathing on your neck saying "are you done yet?" whining about how long you take to finish an "easy task", obviously for someone not even able to connect his computer to the network.
So, kudos to CCP IT, make the best work you can, take the time you need and do a wonderful job!
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Don Dark
Amarr
JotunHeim Hird
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:24:00 -
[141]
Calm the f down ppl its just A game . And This is All for us . Ccp could ignore the lagg and save the money but they work thier asses off to please us and All you d= is complaining spoiled kids . Consider it just a sec
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CaptCole
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:24:00 -
[142]
Ok I have to agree WhatÆs the bloody point in posting deadlines 13.00- 23.00 my foot I think your customer service is Fc.uking disgusting, were PAYING customers yes CCP we PAY for your services.
Do you know the meaning to CUSTOMER SATISFACTION???!!!!
Also I canÆt believe you relied on face book for your updates, that gave us hardly information apart from your bloody estimated deadlines which you have broken many of times since IV been paying for your services, also how Fc.uking lazy is it to rely on a forum for information from devs so lazy.
IÆm sure your multi million dollar company could of thrown up a tempury website which provided us with proper updates.
For future downtimes scrap the estimated times and make out your offline for 2 days+ and finish before and everyone will love you for it.
I usually the person in the threds thatÆs like good job ccp but hold on a sec you taking the P1ss out of us.
For anyone who things IÆm stupid or what ever. what if you bought a $1000 Rolex watch and it broke the first day you had it, and the bloke behind the counter told you to file a petition, or check face book for information how to return it or log on there forum and wait to speak to a dev.
They should I hope have good customer skill/relations to sort your problem out.
And now this topic how many Devs reply to you we all no not many.
My rant is over
CCP sort yourself out train your staff in customer Service/support and for god sake kill the estimated deadlines
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witchking42
Swag Co.
Sandbox Bullies
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:24:00 -
[143]
It's the same formula in all IT server / infrastructure upgrades
ACTUAL DOWNTIME = ESTIMATED DOWNTIME + NUMBER OF PIZZA'S CONSUMED + LAST TWO DIGITS OF PROJECT MANAGERS PHONE NUMBER / NUMBER OF ETHERNET CABLES REQUIRED
wk42
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Roland Schlosser
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:25:00 -
[144]
CCP, good work on the move.
To all the greedy bastards out there whimpering about "Oh I lost a day of game time" I say really?!?!?! You're *****ing about reimbursement for something that will make an already great game even better? Get your priorities straight.
Fly Safe, see you when the server comes back online
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leper messia
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:25:00 -
[145]
hopefully the server gets back up on (new) schedule, because untill then i am sitting in the internet cafe staring at the desktop...and randomly speaking in eve forums.... for the love of god bring it back online!!!!!!!!
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Elder Khain
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:25:00 -
[146]
They should have asked for much more time to move, so people could wait. but if you delay all the time, people gets ****ed off. it is said to be 0900 to 1500 then it has changed to 1800 then again changed to 2100 and now it says 2400.. This is really annoying. I have sorted my training queue but some people might not. I think people deserves more than just an apology. 40k people waiting here.
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Exie
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:25:00 -
[147]
OMG, so many idiots not enough ammo... I guess everyone complaining that they need time back are either really poor, or really delusional.
CCP thanks for the hard work, looking forward to how this helps the lag issues.
failbears fail
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Jagged Bluetooth
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:25:00 -
[148]
What a load of crap//// there is always some reason. We pay a lot of money for this bloody game and we are relegated to a certain amount of hours play a day. How about a free plex once a year or a decent ship ( not a zephyr )!!!! eve... we have made you rich no one else.
Patience....lol it's not like we have a choice is it.
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Bilboz
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:25:00 -
[149]
I just dont understand why ccp buys these junk minmatar servers.
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RichardCypherr
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:25:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
And they couldn't have pointed the website to a static page somewhere in order to post updates on why the move was late?
Shocking customer service tbh.
you know, sh*t happens, that's the way it is get over it no need to be rude
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Miilla
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:25:00 -
[151]
Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2010 21:26:03
Originally by: Bilboz
I just dont understand why ccp buys these junk minmatar servers.
Well if it was an Amarr server it would only come with 2 cables, red and green.
At least Mimbari servers come with 4 colours of cables.
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Nikal Vaszol
Cruentus Invicta
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:25:00 -
[152]
API Is back up and working as usual.
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Noran Ferah
Red Sky Morning
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:26:00 -
[153]
Did I hear correctly? Are rockets fixed?
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Caellach Marellus
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:26:00 -
[154]
I'm wondering if the server will be up before the world record longest tennis match ends.
The race is on!
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Barakkus
Spacelane Innovation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:26:00 -
[155]
Originally by: CaptCole
Ok I have to agree WhatÆs the bloody point in posting deadlines 13.00- 23.00 my foot I think your customer service is Fc.uking disgusting, were PAYING customers yes CCP we PAY for your services.
Do you know the meaning to CUSTOMER SATISFACTION???!!!!
Also I canÆt believe you relied on face book for your updates, that gave us hardly information apart from your bloody estimated deadlines which you have broken many of times since IV been paying for your services, also how Fc.uking lazy is it to rely on a forum for information from devs so lazy.
IÆm sure your multi million dollar company could of thrown up a tempury website which provided us with proper updates.
For future downtimes scrap the estimated times and make out your offline for 2 days+ and finish before and everyone will love you for it.
I usually the person in the threds thatÆs like good job ccp but hold on a sec you taking the P1ss out of us.
For anyone who things IÆm stupid or what ever. what if you bought a $1000 Rolex watch and it broke the first day you had it, and the bloke behind the counter told you to file a petition, or check face book for information how to return it or log on there forum and wait to speak to a dev.
They should I hope have good customer skill/relations to sort your problem out.
And now this topic how many Devs reply to you we all no not many.
My rant is over
CCP sort yourself out train your staff in customer Service/support and for god sake kill the estimated deadlines
You should probably spend your subscription money on therapy instead of gaming.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Salarc
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:27:00 -
[156]
Originally by: CaptCole
For anyone who things IÆm stupid or what ever. what if you bought a $1000 Rolex watch and it broke the first day you had it, and the bloke behind the counter told you to file a petition, or check face book for information how to return it or log on there forum and wait to speak to a dev.
You win the worst analogy award.
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La Asesina
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:27:00 -
[157]
I don't ever usualy do things like this, but this is an exception.
The Tranquility cluster will be down for maintenance on Wednesday, June 23rd 2010 from 0900 to 1500 UTC. More information about the cluster move can be found in this. WTF happend with this? You also said that SiSi was gonna be up at 1200. As Sweden is 2h before GMT now, I've been waiting, and waiting, and waiting, all ****ing day, instead of moving it forward 2h all the time or whatever, set like 21.00 at first, unlucky if you get done before. You guys usualy may be 1gh late and that's when you say it's gonna be up in 16min 4x times. That is better. Consider this as a Emo post from someone who is ****ed off becouse he has wasting his time all ****ing day.
Thank you (fix it)
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Stil Harkonnen
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:27:00 -
[158]
Edited by: Stil Harkonnen on 23/06/2010 21:31:50
Originally by: Vershin Ma
Originally by: Yakumo Smith
Over estimate!
If a job takes X hours, we'll complain if you take longer than X. If you take less time than X we'll think you are great.
Feel free to use that tip in the future.
you could just.. you know... stop your *****ing and wait like the rest of us. At least CCP is trying to do something about their lag.
And to the rest of you! If you wanna keep your *****ing on, go play in traffic for breakfast. Do the world a favor.
He does have a point. How CCP managed to go 8 hours over their schedule beats me. That's a full work day. 14 full hours to do something predicted to take 6 hours. They more than doubled the expected time.
EDIT assuming the time doesn't triple when they push back the time yet again
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John Queen
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:28:00 -
[159]
And don't forget many players cannot afford paying monthly subscriptions like teenagers who represent a large part of EVE players, and they do care of one day.
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Illwill Bill
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:28:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Miilla
Well if it was an Amarr server it would only come with 2 cables, red and green.
Caldari servers need a constant supply of coins to be kept operational, and Gallente servers go Skynet every now and then.
Minmatar is as good as it gets.
Also, duct tape.
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magistre
Caldari
No Glory For Last
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:28:00 -
[161]
I hate people whining SO MUCH.
guys, go back to Wow, and hope I won't see you ingame otherwise my ammo will shot you down :P
When you suscribe to a MMO game, you pay for game time AND downtime. The downtime is what makes the game better and better.
Good luck CCP finishing your test for TQ onlining.
See ya in a few hours !
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LinChow
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:28:00 -
[162]
From 15:00 to 17:00 to 21:00 to 23:00... next it's gonna be 06:00, 08:00, 12:00... They don't know when it will be back up.
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Brother Paulan
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:28:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: CaptCole
Ok I have to agree WhatÆs the bloody point in posting deadlines 13.00- 23.00 my foot I think your customer service is Fc.uking disgusting, were PAYING customers yes CCP we PAY for your services.
Do you know the meaning to CUSTOMER SATISFACTION???!!!!
Also I canÆt believe you relied on face book for your updates, that gave us hardly information apart from your bloody estimated deadlines which you have broken many of times since IV been paying for your services, also how Fc.uking lazy is it to rely on a forum for information from devs so lazy.
IÆm sure your multi million dollar company could of thrown up a tempury website which provided us with proper updates.
For future downtimes scrap the estimated times and make out your offline for 2 days+ and finish before and everyone will love you for it.
I usually the person in the threds thatÆs like good job ccp but hold on a sec you taking the P1ss out of us.
For anyone who things IÆm stupid or what ever. what if you bought a $1000 Rolex watch and it broke the first day you had it, and the bloke behind the counter told you to file a petition, or check face book for information how to return it or log on there forum and wait to speak to a dev.
They should I hope have good customer skill/relations to sort your problem out.
And now this topic how many Devs reply to you we all no not many.
My rant is over
CCP sort yourself out train your staff in customer Service/support and for god sake kill the estimated deadlines
You should probably spend your subscription money on therapy instead of gaming.
If you are not satisfied why the **** are you still here? go play world of warcraft or something like that. I was told Customer Service there is awesome.
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Santoze
Sons of War
Unbound by Death
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:29:00 -
[164]
How about give us the ****ing truth?
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wizechatmgr
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:29:00 -
[165]
Anyone else get a sudden plex purchase email at 852PM that failed and then 853PM Eastern that succeeded? I ironically can't get into my account info to see if this is "real" or not.
Has anyone checked to see if any unintended account safeguards were bypassed during the upgrade? I'm wondering if this is just an old queued mail that suddenly made it out. |
Abon
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:29:00 -
[166]
API Server is back up.
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MadMuppet
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:30:00 -
[167]
Edited by: MadMuppet on 23/06/2010 21:30:00
Moving data centers is nightmarish and something I've been party to a few times. Actually our user base is almost as big as Eve in terms of supporting connections. 14 hours for something they don't do on a regular basis is actually really good.
This video is about the best distrciption of what they are doing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaal1v-vLYQ
-MadMuppet
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Greymoon Avatar
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:30:00 -
[168]
OMFG....peoples!!!
I'm happy as I can be about the upgraded servers, leaping for joy in fact.
Just be a little patient ok?
Clearly some of you have no clue about what relocating a server like TQ involves.
I suggest you take this opportunity to use a screwdriver and take apart the computer sitting in front of you. By the time you blow all the dust out of it, install a bit more DRAMM, and a new Graphics Card, Tranquility will be back up.
...
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Hardon
Waiting for Palli
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:30:00 -
[169]
Lets hier brew masters to run servers, I know they will do better job.
Dont mean to be rude but CCP but u suck at patches and any other server upgrades, I pay for your service and you should deliver.
Next time schedule 1 week downtime and we all be happy if server comes up on 3rd day.
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Serpentii
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:30:00 -
[170]
I would like to add to this is that is always the Europeans that take the brunt of the downtime. Why not swap it around so that us Euros are asleep when it happens.
The same comment could be made about regular DT, why not swap it around so that it's in the middle of the US day. I have always found this DT to be really annoying.
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Lux0r
Caldari
Invicta.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:30:00 -
[171]
As I tell my techs, take a hammer to it
Seriously tho... good work guys that's a mammoth effort to pull off in a day. Those that don't work in IT have no concept, this ain't like moving your computer across the room at home (in the vein of 'this ain't like dusting crops back home kid') |
Muad' Dib
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:30:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Santoze
How about give us the ****ing truth?
You can't handle the ****ing thruth !
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Pantheon Lea
Farmer Boyz
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:30:00 -
[173]
Originally by: gtmh
will servers be reset or will it be like eve never went offline ?
The servers will be completly reset, everyone will start with 1000 ISK, an Ibis, a basic miner and one Tritanium...
Pantheon Lea
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Ste Weiss
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:30:00 -
[174]
TBH i'd rather go some hours without playing knowing their doing everything properly, rather than a rush job which could see potential character losses n so forth (since they are moving servers that store the character info) i'm sure they have backups but i'd rather they not risk it =p
Plus i'v been hungover most of the day so i only got up a few hours ago \o/
ste
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CCP Adida
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:31:00 -
[175]
Cleared up additional spam and off topic comments. Please keep everything related to the topic.
Adida
Community Rep
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Milo Caman
Gallente
Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:31:00 -
[176]
Don't mind the long downtime. Just wish CCP would be a bit more realistic about their time estimates
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Originally by: Sarina Berghil
I think the reason your guns didn't work is because you're trying to hunt squirrels with Howitzers.
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3rr0rc0d3
Amarr
Dies Irae Veniendum Est
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:31:00 -
[177]
Forum: "FIX LAG! WHINE WHINE WHINE! FIX LAG!"
CCP: "We're investing in better server infrastructure, but it will require some effort."
Forum: "NO! FIX LAG!! WHINE WHINE WHINE! REIMBURSE! RAGEQUIT! RABBLE RABBLE!"
You people are so ungrateful, it's disgusting really.
Stand up, walk to the door, step outside, enjoy the real world.
TQ is down, it's not the end of the world, let alone the end of the galaxy.
@ CCP: I did expect the 6 hour window for the move was cutting it a bit short,
however the communication during these extended downtimes has improved by a great deal. Very nice!
Also, to the techies and devs working on the server move, and no doubt pulling several hours of overtime, a well meant thank you!
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Snoopy11
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:31:00 -
[178]
Guys and gals whining about losing gaming time let me direct to a window.
Step 1# Open your curtains(not to fast you may blind yourself)
Step 2# Open your window and breath in the outside air
Step 3# Go outside for a bit. What are you doing whining on a forum when the sun is at it's zenith!
Seriously
Set backs happen ya know!
I am gonna lose like 12 hours of training time but i am not *****ing about it!
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Chui Menta
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:32:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Serpentii
I would like to add to this is that is always the Europeans that take the brunt of the downtime. Why not swap it around so that us Euros are asleep when it happens.
The same comment could be made about regular DT, why not swap it around so that it's in the middle of the US day. I have always found this DT to be really annoying.
We are all paying customers and should get similar service!
AMEN BROTHER!!!!
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leper messia
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:32:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Greymoon Avatar
OMFG....peoples!!!
I'm happy as I can be about the upgraded servers, leaping for joy in fact.
Just be a little patient ok?
Clearly some of you have no clue about what relocating a server like TQ involves.
I suggest you take this opportunity to use a screwdriver and take apart the computer sitting in front of you. By the time you blow all the dust out of it, install a bit more DRAMM, and a new Graphics Card, Tranquility will be back up.
Wow spoken like a person with there own computer not forced to sit in an internet cafe doing nothing on there day off
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Barakkus
Spacelane Innovation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:32:00 -
[181]
Edited by: Barakkus on 23/06/2010 21:33:44
Originally by: Brother Paulan
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: CaptCole
Ok I have to agree WhatÆs the bloody point in posting deadlines 13.00- 23.00 my foot I think your customer service is Fc.uking disgusting, were PAYING customers yes CCP we PAY for your services.
Do you know the meaning to CUSTOMER SATISFACTION???!!!!
Also I canÆt believe you relied on face book for your updates, that gave us hardly information apart from your bloody estimated deadlines which you have broken many of times since IV been paying for your services, also how Fc.uking lazy is it to rely on a forum for information from devs so lazy.
IÆm sure your multi million dollar company could of thrown up a tempury website which provided us with proper updates.
For future downtimes scrap the estimated times and make out your offline for 2 days+ and finish before and everyone will love you for it.
I usually the person in the threds thatÆs like good job ccp but hold on a sec you taking the P1ss out of us.
For anyone who things IÆm stupid or what ever. what if you bought a $1000 Rolex watch and it broke the first day you had it, and the bloke behind the counter told you to file a petition, or check face book for information how to return it or log on there forum and wait to speak to a dev.
They should I hope have good customer skill/relations to sort your problem out.
And now this topic how many Devs reply to you we all no not many.
My rant is over
CCP sort yourself out train your staff in customer Service/support and for god sake kill the estimated deadlines
You should probably spend your subscription money on therapy instead of gaming.
If you are not satisfied why the **** are you still here? go play world of warcraft or something like that. I was told Customer Service there is awesome.
Quote the wrong person or do you just fail at reading comprehension? b/c I have no problem with the downtime.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Bakuhz
Amarr
Interstellar Research Excavation Armada
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:32:00 -
[182]
still to late maybe next time shadow run it before doing this again
the power of knowledge is superior in every way
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Janus Riddick
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:32:00 -
[183]
CCP's biggest issue here, as with all the upgrades that have taken place, is not the complexity, nor the issues/faults that are found that cause the delays a lot of players moan about.. their single biggest issue is that they do not seem to be able to manage expectations.
As has been said earlier in this thread and others over the years, accurate timescales for completing any given task can be notoriously difficult to predict.
CCP, for a move of this complexity you should have just said "Tranquility will be down from xx:xxhrs UTC and will be back up 12-24 hours later. We will keep you updated every 2 hours from xx:xxhrs+10 UTC and will notify you immediately Tranquility is accepting connections."
Players would then expect downtime of at least 12 hours, while knowing that it may extend to 24 hours. I believe most players would then expect Tranquility to be offline 24 hours and would plan according, and would be happy if it came back before then.
Just saying...
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:32:00 -
[184]
Edited by: Dasola on 23/06/2010 21:34:27
Well dear ccp movers or who ever did this move. I would like to propose you to take Star Trek Scotty main engineer aproach next time. You take punch of poeple that really knows that stuff and get realistic estimation how long it takes. Then you simply douple that. That doupled time is what you tell out to your customers: "Please be prepared atleast 12 hours downtime.....".
If you do it under, you get to gloat that miracle worker shine over your staff badges and customers are happy since you made it under the deadline.
Benefits: Gives you extra time sort problems without getting angry customers.
When things go smooth you get plenty happy customers.
PS. something would be nice to get for that extra 6 hours of donwtime, since you fellows failed to estimate propelty time it needs. And im paying customer with multiply accounts. Dont need to be gametime, i would be happy for all accoutns to redeem survival of tyranus cluster move, special medal made/granted by ccp.
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Miilla
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:33:00 -
[185]
Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2010 21:32:55
Originally by: Serpentii
I would like to add to this is that is always the Europeans that take the brunt of the downtime. Why not swap it around so that us Euros are asleep when it happens.
The same comment could be made about regular DT, why not swap it around so that it's in the middle of the US day. I have always found this DT to be really annoying.
We are all paying customers and should get similar service!
Because the servers are where and where are the people who are doing the server move?
That was a clue.
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Johnny Gurkha
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:33:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Muad' Dib
Originally by: Santoze
How about give us the ****ing truth?
You can't handle the ****ing thruth !
Col. Nathan R. Jessep:You want answers?
Lt. Daniel Kaffee:I think I'm entitled.
Col. Nathan R. Jessep:You want answers?!
Lt. Daniel Kaffee:I want the truth!
Col. Nathan R. Jessep:You can't handle the truth!
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Nuela
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:33:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Serpentii
I would like to add to this is that is always the Europeans that take the brunt of the downtime.
You say that as if it were a bad thing...
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Vershin Ma
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:33:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Stil Harkonnen
Originally by: Vershin Ma
Originally by: Yakumo Smith
Over estimate!
If a job takes X hours, we'll complain if you take longer than X. If you take less time than X we'll think you are great.
Feel free to use that tip in the future.
you could just.. you know... stop your *****ing and wait like the rest of us. At least CCP is trying to do something about their lag.
And to the rest of you! If you wanna keep your *****ing on, go play in traffic for breakfast. Do the world a favor.
He does have a point. How CCP managed to go 8 hours over their schedule beats me. That's a full work day. 14 full hours to do something predicted to take 6 hours. They more than doubled the expected time.
Sh*t happens, mate. Seriously. Deal with it. Go read a book or something and wait to see if TQ is back online. All this b*tching just proves that people are far too obsessed with virtual reality.
REMEMBER: THIS IS A F*CKING GAME! GET OVER YOURSELVES!!!
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grocktar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:33:00 -
[189]
Folks, this is a server move(a cluster at that) not routine maintenance! so STFU please!
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mictwisted
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:33:00 -
[190]
I usually don't get home from work til 2300 eve time anyway. i am on vacation and i used this extented DT to chat the wife up......
she is unaware that eve is down and thinks i am just a good hubby....
so... a win win fail sort of thing
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gamertrav
Blackwater USA Inc.
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:33:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Illwill Bill
Originally by: gtmh
will servers be reset or will it be like eve never went offline ?
No, although a full reset would be awesome!
Dual MWDs here I come.
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Kraynox
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:34:00 -
[192]
I get the impression a lot of people here don't understand how hard it can be to migrate such a huge amount of data from one place to another. There are bound to be problems along the way. You have done well to only be 8 hours over schedule.
You have my appreciation for going to all this trouble to increase the speed of the services you offer.
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John Queen
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:34:00 -
[193]
The only reason why so many people are complaining is that CCP is a major company and that they have to provide their service at all times or reimburse. Take a look at Dedicated Servers Hosting Services, they do reimburse you when your server encounters an unexpected downtime or when they have to do maintenances.
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WhyteWulf
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:34:00 -
[194]
A quick explanation of why CCP won't give you anything for downtime:
1)You were warned about it (and your an idiot if you thought it would be back up at 1500UTC on the dot)
2)Its in the ToS
3)Your skill training queue is still working through its schedule (which is a lot more than other game corps would do)
4)it cost about 0.51p or c per day. If your watching your budget THAT much, perhaps you shouldn't be subscribing to an online game in the first place.
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OiMaCtta
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:34:00 -
[195]
^ +1
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Brother Paulan
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:35:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Brother Paulan
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: CaptCole
Ok I have to agree WhatÆs the bloody point in posting deadlines 13.00- 23.00 my foot I think your customer service is Fc.uking disgusting, were PAYING customers yes CCP we PAY for your services.
Do you know the meaning to CUSTOMER SATISFACTION???!!!!
Also I canÆt believe you relied on face book for your updates, that gave us hardly information apart from your bloody estimated deadlines which you have broken many of times since IV been paying for your services, also how Fc.uking lazy is it to rely on a forum for information from devs so lazy.
You should probably spend your subscription money on therapy instead of gaming.
If you are not satisfied why the **** are you still here? go play world of warcraft or something like that. I was told Customer Service there is awesome.
Quote the wrong person? b/c I have no problem with the downtime.
mybad Barakkus, it was suposed to be CaptCole.
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Tarkin Hamir
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:35:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Greymoon Avatar
OMFG....peoples!!!
I'm happy as I can be about the upgraded servers, leaping for joy in fact.
Just be a little patient ok?
Clearly some of you have no clue about what relocating a server like TQ involves.
I suggest you take this opportunity to use a screwdriver and take apart the computer sitting in front of you. By the time you blow all the dust out of it, install a bit more DRAMM, and a new Graphics Card, Tranquility will be back up.
Clearly neither do CCP.
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Phastor
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:35:00 -
[198]
I truly hope none of have a problem whith your car when goging to see your parents in christmas. If there are like you, they'll surely dishinerit you for being late due to a totally unexpected problem. Or do you say "I'll be on 28 for xmas dinner" just in case?
This is the same. They had a problem they could not foresee, so it's taking longer than expected.
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Mord Kainz
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:35:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Pantheon Lea
Originally by: gtmh
will servers be reset or will it be like eve never went offline ?
The servers will be completly reset, everyone will start with 1000 ISK, an Ibis, a basic miner and one Tritanium...
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Jean hunt
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:35:00 -
[200]
Quote:
Cleared up additional spam and off topic comments. Please keep everything related to the topic.
CCP ADIDA why are you censoring this thread ??????
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Aslan Inbarr
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:35:00 -
[201]
I have to say I'm amazed that there are people who play and understand eve that actually took the initial downtime estimate seriously. You have to have been idiot savants or extremely naive to think that this was going to go off without a hitch. Quit whining, go outside, go to the pub, whatever- it's your own idiotic fault that you wasted a day waiting for the server to come back up.
Personally, I'm back to listening to some of EveU's classes. They'll be back up when they are and... shock... there will be other issues to resolve after that. That's just the way things go with these types of moves, in my past experience.
It's a great game and a day or two lost for infrastructure upgrade is no big thing.
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Exie
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:35:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Muad' Dib
Originally by: Santoze
How about give us the ****ing truth?
You can't handle the ****ing thruth !
I loled
E...
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GenSalus
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:35:00 -
[203]
While I certainly understand unexpected events, I also understand certain nuances of customer service. We always underpromise and overdeliver. Our customer think we are gods because of that. Many other companies have adopted these stategies over the years, with Dell Computer being one of the most successful. As a concerned company, you want to give the most accurate estimate. You still **** people off it you miss it. Adapt the underpromise, overdeliver tactic and most of this thread disappears
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Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:35:00 -
[204]
Originally by: John Queen
The only reason why so many people are complaining is that CCP is a major company and that they have to provide their service at all times or reimburse.
You should read the ToS/EULA. Or perhaps just learn to read.
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Aegis Stormborn
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:36:00 -
[205]
Shameless EOH Poker plug...
During extended downtimes you can always play poker for iskies! I personally always deposit ISK for ring games on patch days ;)
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Salarc
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:36:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Mord Kainz
Originally by: Pantheon Lea
Originally by: gtmh
will servers be reset or will it be like eve never went offline ?
The servers will be completly reset, everyone will start with 1000 ISK, an Ibis, a basic miner and one Tritanium...
this
Oh god I hope so.
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Scalar Angulargf
New Zion Judge Advocate
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:36:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Eternus Nox
Anyone else notice that the eve site now loads lightning fast? New servers ftw!
LOL WUT? No new servers, just them being moved around.
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Barakkus
Spacelane Innovation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:36:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Brother Paulan
mybad Barakkus, it was suposed to be CaptCole.
np :P
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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FatFreddy
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:36:00 -
[209]
New feature: Quoting bug. Try it.
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Sasha Sallander
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:36:00 -
[210]
Originally by: 3rr0rc0d3
Forum: "FIX LAG! WHINE WHINE WHINE! FIX LAG!"
CCP: "We're investing in better server infrastructure, but it will require some effort."
Forum: "NO! FIX LAG!! WHINE WHINE WHINE! REIMBURSE! RAGEQUIT! RABBLE RABBLE!"
You people are so ungrateful, it's disgusting really.
Stand up, walk to the door, step outside, enjoy the real world.
TQ is down, it's not the end of the world, let alone the end of the galaxy.
@ CCP: I did expect the 6 hour window for the move was cutting it a bit short
however the communication during these extended downtimes has improved by a great deal. Very nice!
Also, to the techies and devs working on the server move, and no doubt pulling several hours of overtime, a well meant thank you!
Very true, all of it and AI AI to the @ccp part
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Teibor
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:36:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Phastor
This is the same. They had a problem they could not foresee, so it's taking longer than expected.
Hmm i doubt we'll ever find out but im more convinced they just screwed up the timing because they forgot to take into account the WC game this afternoon.
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Libin Herobi
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:37:00 -
[212]
Edited by: Libin Herobi on 23/06/2010 21:37:05
Originally by: Greymoon Avatar
OMFG....peoples!!!
I'm happy as I can be about the upgraded servers, leaping for joy in fact.
Just be a little patient ok?
Clearly some of you have no clue about what relocating a server like TQ involves.
I suggest you take this opportunity to use a screwdriver and take apart the computer sitting in front of you. By the time you blow all the dust out of it, install a bit more DRAMM, and a new Graphics Card, Tranquility will be back up.
Wait, you suggest to spend 8 hours with cleaning my computer and installing new RAM and a new graphics card?!
CCP's estimations aren't good enough to spend the extra time with such an expensive hobby.
Share some of the exquisite stuff you're smoking. NOW!
I'm also very pleased with all the IT guys in here complaining about people not knowing that such a move takes many many hours and completely forget that the guys at CCP made the inital 6 hour estimate.
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Lorimer
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:37:00 -
[213]
some at ccp write a post it note ...
next time .. align
a) Alliance tourney final weekend releases on youtube
with
b) Infrastructure upgrades
:)
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xAlexVladx
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:37:00 -
[214]
Originally by: magistre
When you suscribe to a MMO game, you pay for game time AND downtime. The downtime is what makes the game better and better
erm... actually when you subscribe to eve you pay for gametime which is supposed to be 24/7 ( not even 23/7 ) according to the TOS. Would be illegal to ask you to pay for a downtime they do not specify in advance before payment.
and not even starting to talk about the "monthly payment" which is in fact 30 days even tho 50% of the months have 31 day ( btw paypal DOES refund the money of such grounds, would you call them idiots ? ).
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Stil Harkonnen
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:37:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Vershin Ma
Originally by: Stil Harkonnen
Originally by: Vershin Ma
Originally by: Yakumo Smith
Over estimate!
If a job takes X hours, we'll complain if you take longer than X. If you take less time than X we'll think you are great.
Feel free to use that tip in the future.
you could just.. you know... stop your *****ing and wait like the rest of us. At least CCP is trying to do something about their lag.
And to the rest of you! If you wanna keep your *****ing on, go play in traffic for breakfast. Do the world a favor.
He does have a point. How CCP managed to go 8 hours over their schedule beats me. That's a full work day. 14 full hours to do something predicted to take 6 hours. They more than doubled the expected time.
Sh*t happens, mate. Seriously. Deal with it. Go read a book or something and wait to see if TQ is back online. All this b*tching just proves that people are far too obsessed with virtual reality.
REMEMBER: THIS IS A F*CKING GAME! GET OVER YOURSELVES!!!
Remember, I'm not the one who appears to be mad here, mate
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BearUkraine
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:37:00 -
[216]
Edited by: BearUkraine on 23/06/2010 21:40:01
Originally by: Janus riddick
CCP's biggest issue here, as with all the upgrades that have taken place, is not the complexity, nor the issues/faults that are found that cause the delays a lot of players moan about.. their single biggest issue is that they do not seem to be able to manage expectations.
As has been said earlier in this thread and others over the years, accurate timescales for completing any given task can be notoriously difficult to predict.
CCP, for a move of this complexity you should have just said "Tranquility will be down from xx:xxhrs UTC and will be back up 12-24 hours later. We will keep you updated every 2 hours from xx:xxhrs+10 UTC and will notify you immediately Tranquility is accepting connections."
Players would then expect downtime of at least 12 hours, while knowing that it may extend to 24 hours. I believe most players would then expect Tranquility to be offline 24 hours and would plan according, and would be happy if it came back before then.
Just saying...
You are fully right.
But to be honest, nice job CCP.
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Mal Lokrano
Gallente
The Executives
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:37:00 -
[217]
The key to understanding CCP schedules:
Take any estimated completion time and add 12-24 hours to it.
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When going to a party with wine, women, and song. Always ascertain the vintage of the first two. |
Bondeknold
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:37:00 -
[218]
Quit playing if its so horrible .i dare you !!! Its been less than 24 hours and your shaking like a drug user =n rehab .look at yourself ppl .
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Yuda Mann
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:38:00 -
[219]
Originally by: John Queen
The only reason why so many people are complaining is that CCP is a major company and that they have to provide their service at all times or reimburse. Take a look at Dedicated Servers Hosting Services, they do reimburse you when your server encounters an unexpected downtime or when they have to do maintenances.
I'm gonna start a list of people so stupid they deserve to be griefed/wardec'ed.
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Johnny Gurkha
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:38:00 -
[220]
Nerf local |
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Amar Alloin
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:38:00 -
[221]
My concern about the downtime is not about reimbursement for the time lost. It is centered around me being a new layer, and as such my skills don't take 47 days each to train. I made an effort to set up my queue to finish 18:00 server time as that was plenty to cover the stated downtime. Now with the endlessly extended downtime, my skill queue is completely empty and my time lost represents whole skill levels I can get as a low skill level player, which makes a huge impact on the game for me. What's going to be done about this, if anything? It's not like it's a 1 day delay on a 50 day skill that you aren't exactly salivating over anyway...
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:38:00 -
[222]
Does this mean we can walk in stations when TQ is up again?
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Miilla
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:38:00 -
[223]
Valve time has nothing on CCP time.
This needs a Wiki entry.
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Serpentii
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:38:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2010 21:32:55
Originally by: Serpentii
I would like to add to this is that is always the Europeans that take the brunt of the downtime. Why not swap it around so that us Euros are asleep when it happens.
The same comment could be made about regular DT, why not swap it around so that it's in the middle of the US day. I have always found this DT to be really annoying.
We are all paying customers and should get similar service!
Quote:
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Because the servers are where and where are the people who are doing the server move?
That was a clue.
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Skera
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:39:00 -
[225]
hope its just jitters, but i've noticed that the api feed claims in evemon that my char suddenly takes 10 ekstra days for training! on one char its 15 days extra, than before dt, but generally 10+ days added!
Exception is for low rank skills though..
The noticable thing is for capital industrial ships before dt it was around 38 days now its 46 days,
other example is gallente carrier 5, before 42 days now 56 days..
I hope this is just due to the fact that server is not up yet!
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Illwill Bill
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:39:00 -
[226]
Originally by: gamertrav
Dual MWDs here I come.
Torpedo Caracals.
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kublai khanage
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:39:00 -
[227]
I would first like to say thankyou to CCP for upgrading the service and equipment for the alternate world that we all like to escape to.
I myself have not been playing all that long, but as I work in IT I understand that "****e happens", I can also understand from a player point of view as to why so many get upset( not that is fixes the issue ).
All i can say is if the sun is up in your neck of the woods go get some sunshine, mow your lawn that you have been neglecting, go play with your little sister, Let CCP do there job, and you go on with your life.
And for those that are ****ed of and demanding game time to be added for a small delay, SHAME SHAME SHAME
QQ dont solve anything
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Toxic Paradox
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:39:00 -
[228]
YOU WILL NOT BE REIMBURSED get over it!
http://www.eveonline.com/pnp/eula.asp
Item 12 states:
#12 NO WARRANTIES
The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game.
CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software.
While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures.
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Feishann
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:39:00 -
[229]
Well so far I've managed to eat, shower, sleep, discover squatters in my house (they claim to be family, but meh you can't trust anyone these days)and generally finish off a lot of things that take longer than an hour.
Photos of the new server room please, so that certain whiners can see exactly how much work was involved.
It's not quite the same as unplugging the commodore from your mothers basement and moving it to your new room under the stairs
BRING BACK THE COMMODORE64 ANYONE FOR CHUCKY EGG !! HEHE
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Akelorian
Caldari
FinFleet
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:39:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Mal Lokrano
The key to understanding CCP schedules:
Take any estimated completion time and add 12-24 hours to it.
agreed
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CowRocket Void
M n' C Void Exploration
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:40:00 -
[231]
To all those that think that 51 cents is nothing...Please send it to me(i might get rich)
J/k
But it don't come on soon, I'm going to have to mow the lawn...PLEASE HURRY
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Rheia Orotv
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:40:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: John Queen
Keep up the good work CCP ! Moving a server and having it set up in less than one day is exceptionnal considering the size of Tranquility.
However it would be normal to give one day to all players for the loss, even if it's only one CCP should feel concerned about the fact that every subscription gives an exact amount of time, all of this regardless of major updates and long downtimes.
Well its not THAT big, its just a few blades, a big box and some cables. Now, they could simplify the wiring if they went wireless.
PS: Its not up yet and the day is almost over :)
You gotta be kidding about running wireless instead of wired on a high demand traffic system...
BTW, someone probably already said that to you, I'm a slow reader ;)
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WhyteWulf
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:40:00 -
[233]
@ Alloin - While i sympathise with you, you could have trained a single skill up to lvl5, nearly all lvl5 skills take at least a day to compleate, added ontop of the previous 4 lvl's it could easily have pushed it into the 48 hour mark. Just somthing to remember for next time :)
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:40:00 -
[234]
Originally by: WhyteWulf
A quick explanation of why CCP won't give you anything for downtime:
1)You were warned about it (and your an idiot if you thought it would be back up at 1500UTC on the dot)
2)Its in the ToS
3)Your skill training queue is still working through its schedule (which is a lot more than other game corps would do)
4)it cost about 0.51p or c per day. If your watching your budget THAT much, perhaps you shouldn't be subscribing to an online game in the first place.
1. yes but they didint mention it could take 12 hours instead mentioned 6 hours.
2. Local laws kick ass ToS. Its failure of ccp not be able to anticipate that there will be problems that needs to be solved, so they should book couple extra hours in advance to solve them.
3. Whats skills have to do about it? I like fights not watch skill points counter count up. I can make javasript page thats counts up if thats onlything im interested.
4. So its still my money. multiply that 0.51 with 300000 accounts and it starts to be big money mate. So big that consumer protection officials might have something to say about ccps process of handling this.
23.35 and no server. Looks like extended extended extended extended downtime.
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Aalaria Black
THORN Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:40:00 -
[235]
I LOVE topics like this ... Maybe people should take a closer look at the ToS on all the other services they pay for. Most utilities don't guarantee you their service 24x7, they will certainly get it back up and running as quickly as possible but no guarantee.
Most internet service providers GUARANTEE 0 bytes/sec ... yes you read that right, they will forever and honestly provide you with ZERO throughput, yet you happily pay them monthly for this service.
Instead of raging all over the place maybe feel a little fortunate that they can physically move an entire environment in a matter of hours instead of days or weeks.
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Exie
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:41:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Tarkin Hamir
Originally by: Greymoon Avatar
OMFG....peoples!!!
I'm happy as I can be about the upgraded servers, leaping for joy in fact.
Just be a little patient ok?
Clearly some of you have no clue about what relocating a server like TQ involves.
I suggest you take this opportunity to use a screwdriver and take apart the computer sitting in front of you. By the time you blow all the dust out of it, install a bit more DRAMM, and a new Graphics Card, Tranquility will be back up.
Clearly neither do CCP.
Ah yes, the pro that knows more about how to move the TQ cluster then the guys that BUILT it.
please pro, enlighten us with how CCP should have done it.
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suzi tzuke
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:41:00 -
[237]
basically this is why CCP wont re-imburse you your 32 cents
.32 x 300,000 = $96,000 Thats quite alot .....is it not ???
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John Queen
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:41:00 -
[238]
This thread is like a poultry-yard ...
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Tartzu
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:41:00 -
[239]
I'm wondering why my post was removed!!?!? It was my first post on this site.
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Harri Bar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:41:00 -
[240]
23.00?
are the servers being relocated to a different country?
seriously though, I'm surprised they even gave an ETA, this normally happens over a whole weekend in most companies.
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Cannonfodder1982
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:41:00 -
[241]
only problem i have really is my dram got camped into a 0.0 system last night and ive been waiting all day to escape....
p.s with regards to the amount of downtime, i dont personally think its a problem BUT ccp allways give us a time and never manage to stick to it so they should either not give us one, or overestimate the ammount of time it takes. if the server is back up earlier, we will praise them for doing such a good job. unlike normal where they go over time and lots of boring people come on here and moan about the time its taking ~(even tho most of them dont have the slightest clue what kinda work is involved to migrate a corporate server like TQ)
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Tarithell
Rim Collection RC
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:42:00 -
[242]
lol all go sleep and take a break off until hamsters are trained and go back to their running spot
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Ehnea Mehk
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:42:00 -
[243]
Edited by: Ehnea Mehk on 23/06/2010 21:44:02
Edited by: Ehnea Mehk on 23/06/2010 21:42:43
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Hello all,
We have successfully moved our Tranquility servers to their new location, and Tranquility is scheduled to return to service at 23:00 UTC. Our original plan was to have the Web sites and Tranquility returned to service at 15:00 UTC, however, during the move we discovered network and SAN switch issues, which resulted in an extended service return delay. We have resolved those issues, and are working on returning Tranquility to service as quickly as possible.
Thank you all for your patience while we undertook this necessary server move. For more information about the move itself, please check out CCP YokaiÆs dev blog .
Update #1: EVE Gate is tied to Tranquility and will be down until TQ returns to service.
Update #2: We are investigating an issue with the EVE Store, and are working on re-enabling the API.
Update #3: The API has been returned to service.
We know you are working very hard to get the server migration done properly. We appreciate your efforts.
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Draiskel Dipclown
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:42:00 -
[244]
Oi! stop the whining, pleeease! if a day without loggin into eve is so bad for you, I would recommend you to get some other interests, because beeing that addicted to a game cant really be healthy....
And the whines about "zomg I pays for this! I demand reimbursementz!!!1one!" imagine if CCP didnt bother to try to do EVE better for all of us...it would not be the game it is today. Stop crying about a few hours.. Its not like EVE is expensive for anyone who actually cares to get a job and earn some damn money.
So to all the whiners, cut your hair, get a job, and stop whining.
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Sasha Sallander
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:42:00 -
[245]
Originally by: Amar Alloin
My concern about the downtime is not about reimbursement for the time lost. It is centered around me being a new layer, and as such my skills don't take 47 days each to train. I made an effort to set up my queue to finish 18:00 server time as that was plenty to cover the stated downtime. Now with the endlessly extended downtime, my skill queue is completely empty and my time lost represents whole skill levels I can get as a low skill level player, which makes a huge impact on the game for me. What's going to be done about this, if anything? It's not like it's a 1 day delay on a 50 day skill that you aren't exactly salivating over anyway...
DON"T EVER DO THAT AGAIN!!!
always put an long skill in que when they mess with the server's and such
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Shintai
Gallente
Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:43:00 -
[246]
Edited by: Shintai on 23/06/2010 21:43:44
People that talk about their 50cents refund for downtime etc needs to stop playing EvE and any other game right away. You obviously cant afford it.
I bet you people would also want money back on a date that failed or didnt end with sex etc. 
CCP does a good job, just their time prediction that sucks badly.
EDIT: And those with a run out skill? Seriously...does it even matter that much? Go outside!
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Kosomot
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:43:00 -
[247]
sounds good ty for updates, these types of migrations are not without issues.
see you all on the flip side.
Kos
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WarbzUK
Minmatar
Easy Co.
Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:43:00 -
[248]
I like totally did a 2 year IT system support once. I think you should put me in charge of IT solutions for CCP. In my IT course we did stuff like problem solving a PC that would not boot up properly. With my expert diagnosis I came to the conclusion someone had inserted a floppy disk and set the bootdevice priority to the A: drive. I don't see how CCP can refuse my aid after hearing a story of such success.
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Miilla
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:43:00 -
[249]
How much ISK am I owed now?
I will accept all major T2 and Faction Battleship class ships as alternative reembursement also.
So they speeded up the boards eh, faster crying, pitty we still have to wait 5 minutes between posts.
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Benny0795
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:44:00 -
[250]
CCP can we have a ETA on EVEGATE peas
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Daenna Chrysi
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:44:00 -
[251]
shame, the time EVE will be back up and running, it will be so late for me here that I will be sound asleep.
If even more time is needed, while it is kinda useless wish, it would be nice if we got something out of this. Perhaps not in game, but in revelations of coming things, stuff that wouldnt normally get out early.
This naturally depends on if CCP feels, like that they should do something nice for the players after such a unexpectedly long downtime...
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Brother Paulan
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:45:00 -
[252]
Originally by: Shintai
People that talk about their 50cents refund for downtime etc needs to stop playing EvE and any other game right away. You obviously cant afford it.
I bet you people would also want money back on a date that failed or didnt end with sex etc.
CCP does a good job, just their time prediction that sucks badly.
For those of you smashing your heads against the monitor and saying you will quit EVE, don't forget to contract your stufzz to "Brother Paulan" ok? and have a nice horse ride in WoW, hope you slice lots of dragons.
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Cpt after
Minmatar
The Illuminati Reborn
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:45:00 -
[253]
Edited by: Cpt after on 23/06/2010 21:45:04
To everyone whining about DT lost playing time... upset beacuse they forgot yo put on long skills....
This video is for you!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q
edit: fixed the link
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Katja Saitou
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:45:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Dasola
23.35 and no server. Looks like extended extended extended extended downtime.
Hate to burst your bubble, but it's not even past 22:00 yet.
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Skera
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:45:00 -
[255]
Originally by: Skera
hope its just jitters, but i've noticed that the api feed claims in evemon that my char suddenly takes 10 ekstra days for training! on one char its 15 days extra, than before dt, but generally 10+ days added!
Exception is for low rank skills though..
The noticable thing is for capital industrial ships before dt it was around 38 days now its 46 days,
other example is gallente carrier 5, before 42 days now 56 days..
I hope this is just due to the fact that server is not up yet!
anyone else notice the same bug ?
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Tachibane Kanade
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:45:00 -
[256]
Lol, some people here... I thought EVE Community was supposed to be "mature". Well I guess the majority still is, but some here are.... lool.
I have played many other MMO's and I think CCP provides one of the best services by far...
How many other game designers let players have a say in game design etc... (CSM)
How many game designers actually play with the community, and are constantly reading the forums troughly?
Organize tournaments and hand out prices, and also sponsor certain player based idea's (I saw them sponsor the lottery for example a few times).
Besides that I saw them organize fleet battles aswell, kinda cool :)
Overall I think CCP is doing really well and tries to keep everyone updated on stuff as much as they can, and they interact very well with the community.
I can't believe when I see those player reply's crying about getting some game time back because unexpected things happend that made this delay.
Look on the bright side, maybe many wont lag so much anymore when there is a huge battle going on etc.
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Jokke Jr
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:46:00 -
[257]
I'm starting to show withdrawal symptoms
SO i'll better go to bed to wake up with and brand new super fast EVE
Don't give in to the pressure guys . Just do what is needed and do Lessons learned afterwards so you can prevent this hehe
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Rheia Orotv
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:46:00 -
[258]
EVE EULA:
"While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures."
So stop complaining about reimbursment! God damned!
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Schocko
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:46:00 -
[259]
I haven't read the Eve forums much until today. I wish I hadn't started, because up until now I had thought that the general maturity level of Eve players was more than that of World of Warcraft players.
Disappointed.
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Chripisen
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:46:00 -
[260]
i used to sell crack for a living. A lot of you people are reminding me of my customers when i would tell them i was on my way but would take a couple hours to show up, yet they still stayed awake to 4 in the morning just to get their fix when i finally did show up. When i quit, i told my customers that they should really think about rehab. Maybe a few of you should take that same advice. Eve isn't everything, spend time with you family, read a book, watch some TV go out for a walk, jerk it to that new **** you downloaded the other night, dare i say, even play another video game. Just Cause 2 is pretty good for killing mindless hours that you would spend playing eve. David Cross also put out a new book that i heard is good for a laugh. And i don't know about over seas, but the weather state side is great today and the fair is in town. Tons of things to do that don't involve *****ing about eve servers being down while you work through your DT's Sincerely, ♠ Trip ♠ |
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kublai khanage
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:47:00 -
[261]
complain complain complain,
delays happen, I dont actually mind the longer they take to fix it, the later the time will be for all the people on the other side of the globe, more asteroids for me to mine MUhahahaaaa
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Greymoon Avatar
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:47:00 -
[262]
Edited by: Greymoon Avatar on 23/06/2010 21:48:02
Originally by: Libin Herobi
Edited by: Libin Herobi on 23/06/2010 21:37:05
Originally by: Greymoon Avatar
OMFG....peoples!!!
I'm happy as I can be about the upgraded servers, leaping for joy in fact.
Just be a little patient ok?
Clearly some of you have no clue about what relocating a server like TQ involves.
I suggest you take this opportunity to use a screwdriver and take apart the computer sitting in front of you. By the time you blow all the dust out of it, install a bit more DRAMM, and a new Graphics Card, Tranquility will be back up.
Wait, you suggest to spend 8 hours with cleaning my computer and installing new RAM and a new graphics card?!
CCP's estimations aren't good enough to spend the extra time with such an expensive hobby.
Share some of the exquisite stuff you're smoking. NOW!
I'm also very pleased with all the IT guys in here complaining about people not knowing that such a move takes many many hours and completely forget that the guys at CCP made the inital 6 hour estimate.
Here ya' go...
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Barakkus
Spacelane Innovation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:47:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Aslan Inbarr
I have to say I'm amazed that there are people who play and understand eve that actually took the initial downtime estimate seriously. You have to have been idiot savants or extremely naive to think that this was going to go off without a hitch. Quit whining, go outside, go to the pub, whatever- it's your own idiotic fault that you wasted a day waiting for the server to come back up.
This tbh ^^
Last time I had to do something similar to what CCP just did, it took 2 days instead of an estimated 6-8 hours b/c of **** happening...people should be happy they got it done in less than a day.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Letgetiton
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:47:00 -
[264]
i can't belive peps are complaining yes im ****ed the servers are still down how ever im looking forward to getting back on
remember where the game started and where it is now that didnt happen with out upgrades
upgrades arnt without risk get over it and look forward to where the game could go
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Illwill Bill
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:47:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Katja Saitou
Originally by: Dasola
23.35 and no server. Looks like extended extended extended extended downtime.
Hate to burst your bubble, but it's not even past 22:00 yet.
Trying to teach Brits that they're not on UTC/GMT during the summer is like trying to teach a Goon good local manners.
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Cannonfodder1982
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:47:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Chripisen
i used to sell crack for a living. A lot of you people are reminding me of my customers when i would tell them i was on my way but would take a couple hours to show up, yet they still stayed awake to 4 in the morning just to get their fix when i finally did show up. When i quit, i told my customers that they should really think about rehab.
*cough bull cough*
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wizechatmgr
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:47:00 -
[267]
As someone that has previously deployed a 400 unit cluster, you people have no clue the amount of stuff required to set something like this up.
You have to pull each rack out, install power, network, do your cross links, hook up no less than 4 cables per server and cut your hands on sharp metal edges. This isn't "A" server, it is a cluster of servers. It isn't like you just move one unit and your done. Now keep in mind they are also overhauling their existing network as well. Frankly, doing it under 72 hours seems like a dream.
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Chi'kote
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:48:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Toxic Paradox
YOU WILL NOT BE REIMBURSED get over it!
http://www.eveonline.com/pnp/eula.asp
Item 12 states:
#12 NO WARRANTIES
The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game.
CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software.
While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures.
I applaud you for being the one to take the time to look that up and post it for all the complainers who swear they pay for 24/7 access to the servers and should be reimbursed. EVE and every other MMO have a cluase like this in their EULA, and people need to stop complaining about getting their buck a month back for extended downtimes. That said, I agree that CCP should just double their estimates, but whatever. It is not a big deal. Our internet spaceships and funny money will eventually return.
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T' Elk
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:48:00 -
[269]
Originally by: wizard87
Since the upgrade the game seems 10x better, there's no lag, no bugs and the servers just seem so much....cooler.
Nah not really, I've not even logged in and I'm not going to coz the game is still boring.
Then why are you here?
[url=http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=T%27%20Elk][/u |
Eric Xallen
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:48:00 -
[270]
What would be nicer than reimbursement is if they stopped the index timers. I know things take time, and thats cool, but it'll kinda suck to log back in hand have dropped multiple levels across our military and industry indicies.
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Efraya
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:48:00 -
[271]
I hope you all set long skills xD!
Pretty swift relocation considering the scale of the implementation you guys are using.
Thanks alot for the time and effort ("and money") you've spent on us to provide us with the service that we deserve. Keep up the good work.
Haters gonna hate...
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Johnny Gurkha
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:48:00 -
[272]
I built a PC once it took less time than this! I'm an expert and I know DOS... Xcopy c:\TQ\*.* d:\TQ\*.* /s /e /i /h get on with it |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:49:00 -
[273]
Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 23/06/2010 21:55:34
Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 23/06/2010 21:50:02
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Our original plan was to have the Web sites and Tranquility returned to service at 15:00 UTC, however, during the move we discovered network and SAN switch issues, which resulted in an extended service return delay.
"SANSWICH" ISSUES? What kind of sanswich issues were you having that caused such delays? . No mayo?
And it's SANDWICH, FFS. Who the hell says "sanswich"?
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Amar Alloin
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:49:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Aslan Inbarr
I have to say I'm amazed that there are people who play and understand eve that actually took the initial downtime estimate seriously. You have to have been idiot savants or extremely naive to think that this was going to go off without a hitch. Quit whining, go outside, go to the pub, whatever- it's your own idiotic fault that you wasted a day waiting for the server to come back up.
This tbh ^^
Last time I had to do something similar to what CCP just did, it took 2 days instead of an estimated 6-8 hours b/c of **** happening...people should be happy they got it done in less than a day.
I've been playing for less than a month. -_-* I had no reference to this, and I had my queue set up so I could inject new skills when the prereqs were done because I'm on the cusp of a new ship, but I have to inject a new skill. I could have gotten up that skill to the necessary level, but my queue has been absolutely dry for going on 5 hours now...
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Rhoulaki
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:49:00 -
[275]
ITT:
People seriously asking for a refund of less than a dollar. (Really?)
Nerd rage over 8 hours of game time.
GET OVER IT!
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Josta Webisna
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:50:00 -
[276]
Originally by: Cannonfodder1982
only problem i have really is my dram got camped into a 0.0 system last night and ive been waiting all day to escape....
p.s with regards to the amount of downtime, i dont personally think its a problem BUT ccp allways give us a time and never manage to stick to it so they should either not give us one, or overestimate the ammount of time it takes. if the server is back up earlier, we will praise them for doing such a good job. unlike normal where they go over time and lots of boring people come on here and moan about the time its taking ~(even tho most of them dont have the slightest clue what kinda work is involved to migrate a corporate server like TQ)
Heya Cannon We Still Waiting For ya
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Cpt after
Minmatar
The Illuminati Reborn
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:50:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Johnny Gurkha
I built a PC once it took less time than this! I'm an expert and I know DOS... Xcopy c:\TQ\*.* d:\TQ\*.* /s /e /i /h get on with it
Fail troll!
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Jeddeita
Lead Farmers
Wrong Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:50:00 -
[278]
All the *****ing about extending downtime is pathetic. Maybe some of you should try moving that amount of hardware in that little time. I'm sure anyone that works with these sorts of systems day in and day out understand how hard it can be.
If 50c is that much of an issue to you then maybe you should cancel your subscription, sell your PC and then quit worrying about it. That or get a bloody hobby and go outside.
CCP Techies: you do a great job, keep it up. Want me to bring coffee to the datacenter? :P
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Maria Martillo
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:50:00 -
[279]
1.-Chill boys,
(that kind of work is really complex)
2.-relax and enjoy a little bit of life,
3.-do "something" with your wife/girl/boyfriend.....
.....
4.- profit!!!
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Benny0795
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:50:00 -
[280]
 22.47 GMT+1 not long to go woo need to chck my skills
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Skera
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:51:00 -
[281]
Originally by: Skera
hope its just jitters, but i've noticed that the api feed claims in evemon that my char suddenly takes 10 ekstra days for training! on one char its 15 days extra, than before dt, but generally 10+ days added!
Exception is for low rank skills though..
The noticable thing is for capital industrial ships before dt it was around 38 days now its 46 days,
other example is gallente carrier 5, before 42 days now 56 days..
I hope this is just due to the fact that server is not up yet!
Back on topic guys, could anyone verify my bug issue ?
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Seraph Six
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:51:00 -
[282]
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 23/06/2010 21:50:02
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Our original plan was to have the Web sites and Tranquility returned to service at 15:00 UTC, however, during the move we discovered network and SAN switch issues, which resulted in an extended service return delay.
"SANSWICH" ISSUES? What kind of sanswich issues were you having that caused such delays? . No mayo?
lmao
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Teibor
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:51:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Benny0795
22.47 GMT+1 not long to go woo need to chck my skills
lol u honestly think that this deadline will be correct?
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May O'Neez
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:51:00 -
[284]
Thanks for your hard work CCP.
@People who are crying: Please notice that 23:00 GMT is 0:00 London Time, which means that CCP guys will return to their homes at 1:00am or even later. I'm not sure that people out of there would like to finish a day this late ... they surely did'nt want it either.
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Jugger Takashi
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:51:00 -
[285]
Some people are under the impression that CCP has fed the hampsters today. Those people will realize that this is not so.
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Quiquex
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:51:00 -
[286]
oh gosh, im so disgusted with ppl complaining about dt taking so long.
I think 24 hrs away from eve is just healty for you.
Indeed CCP should plan such a DT in a random day of the week, so u addicted can re-discover RL.
Please do so CCP if u love your fans
I work in a DC and I can say **** happens especially when stuffs are extremely complicated.
So I'll give my support to every person working on this big move!
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Ace2001
Caldari
S E A R
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:52:00 -
[287]
Originally by: mictwisted
I usually don't get home from work til 2300 eve time anyway. i am on vacation and i used this extented DT to chat the wife up......
she is unaware that eve is down and thinks i am just a good hubby....
so... a win win fail sort of thing
See folks, this guy has the right idea!
Originally by: John Queen
The only reason why so many people are complaining is that CCP is a major company and that they have to provide their service at all times or reimburse. Take a look at Dedicated Servers Hosting Services, they do reimburse you when your server encounters an unexpected downtime or when they have to do maintenances.
Okay, but name one single game company that reimburses planned downtime.
Originally by: WhyteWulf
A quick explanation of why CCP won't give you anything for downtime:
1)You were warned about it (and your an idiot if you thought it would be back up at 1500UTC on the dot)
2)Its in the ToS
3)Your skill training queue is still working through its schedule (which is a lot more than other game corps would do)
4)it cost about 0.51p or c per day. If your watching your budget THAT much, perhaps you shouldn't be subscribing to an online game in the first place.
Quoted For Truth. Also I coulda sworn that 1500UTC was when the website was going to come back up, not the Tranquility server? D: or did I misread? I swear it was on the splash page they had up when I checked this morning.
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xAlexVladx
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:52:00 -
[288]
Edited by: xAlexVladx on 23/06/2010 21:53:04
Originally by: Ehnea Mehk
We know you are working very hard to get the server migration done properly. We appreciate your efforts.
And thats a 16c worth of appreciation, the rest of the players would like reimbursements.
Originally by: May O'Neez
Please notice that 23:00 GMT is 0:00 London Time, which means that CCP guys will return to their homes at 1:00am or even later.
For 16k EUR a day, i would occasionally lose a night or so. Dont you ?
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Khannnnnnnnnn
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:52:00 -
[289]
Not complaining, but people are entitled to a day compensation. Its overwent a 12hr period so the people who want compensation are entitled to do so.
I have 9D left on my Medium Laser Turret V so I dont mind too much about the down time, but I do hope I get the 1 day comp, as a matter of principle and customers rights.
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suzi tzuke
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:52:00 -
[290]
Quote:
ITT:
People seriously asking for a refund of less than a dollar. (Really?)
Nerd rage over 8 hours of game time.
GET OVER IT!
basically this is why CCP wont re-imburse you your 32 cents
.32 x 300,000 = $96,000 Thats quite alot .....is it not ???
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Sublunar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:52:00 -
[291]
CCP here is a good business advise for you: be impeccable with your word.
If you promise something will be done by the given time, you should be 100% sure that you can keep your word no matter what.
Perhaps in Iceland not keeping a promise is not a big deal, but EVE is international product and many people won't tollerate that. It's just very unprofessional.
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Mail Lite
The Black Rabbits Academy
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:52:00 -
[292]
EvE Gate will not come up until TQ does as they are linked etc.. Just FYI and to save the CCP boys the job.
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Aslan Inbarr
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:52:00 -
[293]
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 23/06/2010 21:50:02
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Our original plan was to have the Web sites and Tranquility returned to service at 15:00 UTC, however, during the move we discovered network and SAN switch issues, which resulted in an extended service return delay.
"SANSWICH" ISSUES? What kind of sanswich issues were you having that caused such delays? . No mayo?
These kind of sammich issues:
NOW THAT'S A SAMMICH!
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Rheia Orotv
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:52:00 -
[294]
Originally by: Salarc
Originally by: CaptCole
For anyone who things IÆm stupid or what ever. what if you bought a $1000 Rolex watch and it broke the first day you had it, and the bloke behind the counter told you to file a petition, or check face book for information how to return it or log on there forum and wait to speak to a dev.
You win the worst analogy award.
I lol'd
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Cannonfodder1982
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:52:00 -
[295]
Originally by: Jugger Takashi
Some people are under the impression that CCP has fed the hampsters today. Those people will realize that this is not so.
infact one of em died due to travel sickness, and he was the jita powering hamster
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leper messia
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:52:00 -
[296]
Edited by: leper messia on 23/06/2010 21:53:23
Originally by: Skera
Originally by: Skera
hope its just jitters, but i've noticed that the api feed claims in evemon that my char suddenly takes 10 ekstra days for training! on one char its 15 days extra, than before dt, but generally 10+ days added!
Exception is for low rank skills though..
The noticable thing is for capital industrial ships before dt it was around 38 days now its 46 days,
other example is gallente carrier 5, before 42 days now 56 days..
I hope this is just due to the fact that server is not up yet!
Back on topic guys, could anyone verify my bug issue ?
Asskisser
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Barakkus
Spacelane Innovation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:53:00 -
[297]
This is pretty tame for downtime *****ing, you should have seen the forum explosions for EverQuest II when I used to moderate SOE's forums lol.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Exie
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:53:00 -
[298]
Originally by: CowRocket Void
But it don't come on soon, I'm going to have to mow the lawn...PLEASE HURRY
The only good reason to really need the server back up... right here...
E...
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Baenus
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:53:00 -
[299]
Originally by: wizechatmgr
As someone that has previously deployed a 400 unit cluster, you people have no clue the amount of stuff required to set something like this up.
You have to pull each rack out, install power, network, do your cross links, hook up no less than 4 cables per server and cut your hands on sharp metal edges. This isn't "A" server, it is a cluster of servers. It isn't like you just move one unit and your done. Now keep in mind they are also overhauling their existing network as well. Frankly, doing it under 72 hours seems like a dream.
Kudos to CCP on this epic attempt to fix known issues :)
And any halfway intelligent person would have had the hardware already installed and warmed up, ready to load the current version of eve and the database. Only halfwits try to do a major server move on this scale the same time they pull the old server.
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Lee ChanKa
WEPRA CORP
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:54:00 -
[300]
if this will make server to work better go go go...good word don't surrender!!!
i watched 30 narutos today lol
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Cynical Attitude
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Aslan Inbarr
I have to say I'm amazed that there are people who play and understand eve that actually took the initial downtime estimate seriously.
You're amazed that Eve players assumed a basic level of competence at CCP. I doubt the point you are thus making was quite the one you intended. Yes, it's a complex task, but CCP's inability to come up with a realistic ETC is simply not good enough.
I haven't read every post in this topic, but the majority of the complaints are not, as you seem to think, about the length of time the changes are taking but the overrun. If CCP had originally given an ETC of 23:00, you would be making a valid point. They didn't. You aren't.
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Illwill Bill
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:54:00 -
[302]
Originally by: Aslan Inbarr
Epic sm÷rgsstsrta
DO WANT!!!
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Alexas Kateiwa
Caldari
Gravis Unbound
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:54:00 -
[303]
i have no friends :/
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WhyteWulf
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:54:00 -
[304]
@ Ace - yeah my bad dude :P , but still I wasn't even expecting the site up on the deadline. There's a hell of a lot of unplugging and plugging back in to do with a setup like the eve servers.
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Fikreta
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:55:00 -
[305]
Heh some of you guys really need to relax and chill out a little bit. What's the big deal if you lose one or two days of internet spaceships? If that's your biggest problem in life then I'd say you actually don't have nothing to worry about.
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Amar Alloin
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:55:00 -
[306]
I hope they decide a goodwill measure of some sort. Micromanaging all the people whose Q's dried out because of misleading server estimates is perhaps too much, but a blanket 1 day credit? Well, they probably won't. But it'd be nice to see a gesture like this for once.
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Dossie Kielle
Disciples of Night
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:56:00 -
[307]
Originally by: Maria Martillo
1.-Chill boys,
(that kind of work is really complex)
2.-relax and enjoy a little bit of life,
3.-do "something" with your wife/girl/boyfriend.....
.....
4.- profit!!!
I agree, I had sex with my girlfriend. Made a great change from the usual *hump, stop, check EVE, continue, new target, reaggress cute girl, look up from where my head is and tell her she has drone aggro, change places, check EVE, wriggle breasts in her face, new spawn, recall drones, call primaries, hump, check EVE...*
It's sooooo much easier when EVE doesn't interrupt...
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LordSwift
Caldari
Amigo Innovations
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:57:00 -
[308]
oh this is just gold. I need to get more popcorn. Although i agree with many responses about ccp setting a huge dt window for themselves next time.
You can all keep dreaming about being reimburst. Personally i expected this delay and set a lonnnng skill. Keep up the good work ccp.
Oh i cant wait to read the forums when the servers go down for normal dt 2moro. Thats if they get them up anytime soon.
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Pat26
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:57:00 -
[309]
if you look at this :
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=769
try to understand about moving this stuff.
1-unplug all
2-move all
3-plug all
4-try to figure out which cord is not plug at the right place
5-Edit this post to tell people server is back online
It take time, YES
They always tell server will be back at UTC X-hour, YES
It's often reported, YES
But who know the work it represent to move those kind of server? Not much of us.
For anything else --> MasterCard XD
fly safe guys
hummmm well when we will be able to go back IG :P
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Cpt after
Minmatar
The Illuminati Reborn
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:57:00 -
[310]
The trolling is strong in this thread!!
Keep the tears coming
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Magunus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:57:00 -
[311]
Originally by: Alexas Kateiwa
i have no friends :/
I do. They're just all in eve. :(
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Sebastien LaForge
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:57:00 -
[312]
Originally by: Barakkus
This is pretty tame for downtime *****ing, you should have seen the forum explosions for EverQuest II when I used to moderate SOE's forums lol.
Aye, I sympathize with the mods that have to deal with all the crap that comes out over downtimes like this.
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Cloora
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:57:00 -
[313]
@ all the people asking for a reimbursement...
Are you new? CCP NEVER has reimbursed for lost game time for an extended or unexpected game time. NEVER
LOL at people complaining. Get a freaking life... EVE is a hobby I have that I like to do. But I have plenty of backups that i can go do.
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CEO and Major Shareholder of the APEX Conglomerate
Producer of Starsi brand softdrinks and Torped-Os! brand cereal as well as many other fine products |
Skera
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:58:00 -
[314]
Originally by: Skera
hope its just jitters, but i've noticed that the api feed claims in evemon that my char suddenly takes 10 ekstra days for training! on one char its 15 days extra, than before dt, but generally 10+ days added!
Exception is for low rank skills though..
The noticable thing is for capital industrial ships before dt it was around 38 days now its 46 days,
other example is gallente carrier 5, before 42 days now 56 days..
I hope this is just due to the fact that server is not up yet!
anyone else notice the same bug ?
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Katja Saitou
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:58:00 -
[315]
Originally by: Dasola
You know that same paragraph dosent say thay we have to pay for that downtime. And since consumer protection laws in most countries favor consumer in this type of situations then...
you're going to sue someone for a few cents?
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Lord Molly
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:58:00 -
[316]
well ccp are not known for their timekeeping in general but still, the ammount of work that has to be done to acheive something like this is rather epic, but surely ccp you know that when you get an estimate of the duration of a down time to at least double it?
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Barakkus
Spacelane Innovation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:58:00 -
[317]
Originally by: Baenus
Originally by: wizechatmgr
As someone that has previously deployed a 400 unit cluster, you people have no clue the amount of stuff required to set something like this up.
You have to pull each rack out, install power, network, do your cross links, hook up no less than 4 cables per server and cut your hands on sharp metal edges. This isn't "A" server, it is a cluster of servers. It isn't like you just move one unit and your done. Now keep in mind they are also overhauling their existing network as well. Frankly, doing it under 72 hours seems like a dream.
Kudos to CCP on this epic attempt to fix known issues :)
And any halfway intelligent person would have had the hardware already installed and warmed up, ready to load the current version of eve and the database. Only halfwits try to do a major server move on this scale the same time they pull the old server.
And only someone who has no interest in keeping their job would throw away millions of dollars just to move some servers by buying all new hardware for a 1 day job.
And FYI it's not a single server...
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Maximillion Carter
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:58:00 -
[318]
Apparently Singularity is up!
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Seraphina Oriana
Disciples of Night
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:59:00 -
[319]
Originally by: Dossie Kielle
I agree, I had sex with my girlfriend. Made a great change from the usual *hump, stop, check EVE, continue, new target, reaggress cute girl, look up from where my head is and tell her she has drone aggro, change places, check EVE, wriggle breasts in her face, new spawn, recall drones, call primaries, hump, check EVE...*
It's sooooo much easier when EVE doesn't interrupt...
I lol'd so hard you made me spit milk out my nose. XD
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Phastor
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:59:00 -
[320]
Originally by: Benny0795
22.47 GMT+1 not long to go woo need to chck my skills
Actually, about an hour from now.
UTC = GMT ONLY in winter. And since most of europe uses Daylight Saving Time, now GMT = UTC+1, GMT+1 = UTC + 2 and so on...
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Nikon D
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:59:00 -
[321]
Originally by: Aslan Inbarr
I have to say I'm amazed that there are people who play and understand eve that actually took the initial downtime estimate seriously. You have to have been idiot savants or extremely naive to think that this was going to go off without a hitch. Quit whining, go outside, go to the pub, whatever- it's your own idiotic fault that you wasted a day waiting for the server to come back up.
Personally, I'm back to listening to some of EveU's classes. They'll be back up when they are and... shock... there will be other issues to resolve after that. That's just the way things go with these types of moves, in my past experience.
It's a great game and a day or two lost for infrastructure upgrade is no big thing.
Damn Right!!! This post and Zen's are classic examples of us few gamers who actually look forward to enhanced stability. So it's taking longer than expected, don't be surprised as this type of move is more than the sum of their parts.
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Steijn
Minmatar
Ascension Ind
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:59:00 -
[322]
Originally by: Skera
Originally by: Skera
hope its just jitters, but i've noticed that the api feed claims in evemon that my char suddenly takes 10 ekstra days for training! on one char its 15 days extra, than before dt, but generally 10+ days added!
Exception is for low rank skills though..
The noticable thing is for capital industrial ships before dt it was around 38 days now its 46 days,
other example is gallente carrier 5, before 42 days now 56 days..
I hope this is just due to the fact that server is not up yet!
my gall carrier is 52 but i havent a clue what it was before it all went down.
anyone else notice the same bug ?
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Gleamor
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:59:00 -
[323]
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Marlona Sky
D00M.
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:59:00 -
[324]
Originally by: WhyteWulf
@ Ace - yeah my bad dude :P , but still I wasn't even expecting the site up on the deadline. There's a hell of a lot of unplugging and plugging back in to do with a setup like the eve servers.
What happened to Best Friends Forever? No friends? Your telling me out of the 43 alliances in the NC you have no friends?
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Lyra Blazing
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:59:00 -
[325]
Hi i have no idea what this server move is about and what it is suppose to achieve. And i couldnt care less. CCP made an estimate that the move takes 6 Hours. Now we are at 3 times the estimated time. Sorry that doesnt sound like professional it to me.
Thats just inline with storylines that were meant for lvl5 and got distributed to lvl2 mission runners. Or the boot.ini deaster.
Remember this :
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329024
For me it comes down to trust in what CCP anounces. And if the vets in this thread are not even considering a timely end of the DT i would assume there is no trust left.
Might be no problem for CCP. But as someone working in the IT field i would be quite upset if our customers would voice such views.
At least i would review how my project management comes up with projected timelines.
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Sebastian Hoch
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:59:00 -
[326]
It is very feasabile to plan changes like this that go off exactly as planned or even to no effect at all to the users. The problem is that more you re-enforce the plan(extra parts, redundants systems, duplicates, lab testing ect), the costlier it becomes. This is an internet spaceship game--its not a network for the police, a hospital, or for the world food program where people die during downtime. The appropriate preperation for an upgrade for this kind of service should weigh heaviliy on ecomonic coniderations not on availibility. The game has to be affordable.
Still, even when the mega-corps that I support in RL spend millons to get it right, its not uncommon for it to just go badly and extra down time can't be helped. Its the nature of the IT/Operations beast.
Patience folks, data center moves are incredibly expensive and complex and on the whole, CCP does a really good job of keeping the cluster up and chuggin.
Seb
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Arusank
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:59:00 -
[327]
Still nothing? How difficult can it be to shove the new server under the bed?
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Ehnea Mehk
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:59:00 -
[328]
At least I am on the East Coast in Canada. By the time the server comes online (00:00 GMT), it will be my usual time to play EVE Online anyways.
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Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:59:00 -
[329]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Tranquility is scheduled to return to service at 23:00 UTC
I have a slight impression of you guys at CCP just doing random guessing when it comes to timelines.
That'd be fine for me, if communicated.
But: Shoving wrong data into customer faces over and over again is not fine at all!
Just setting new times in EVE motd message over and over again without any excuse is insulting, too.
As you're obviously having fun wasting my time having me read outdated twitter messages of yours and pointing me into the facebook desert. I'll probably remove all my bug reports reported so far as soon as possible and cease helping.
A company obviously not dedicated to deliver quality of service is not worth any spare time effort of mine.
You might learn the lesson of what it does cost to loose a supporting paying customer one day, telling his story here or there.
But I doubt it, as you do not even seem capable of having some random basic website of your own run 24/7. Some local craftsmen do better jobs at having their website run 24/7 than you "professional cluster management guys at CCP".
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MadMuppet
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:59:00 -
[330]
On the bright side, the new forum seems to be holding up under the increased emo rage posting quite well, there does not appear to be a local node failure on this thread yet. With this rate of bandwidth wasting whine, large fleet battles should be wonderful.
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Alyssia Benar
Minmatar
Cult of the Fluffy Bunny
Ewoks
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:59:00 -
[331]
via Twitter
Quote:
CCP_Fallout
Singularity is now open to players according to QA
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Cannonfodder1982
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Posted - 2010.06.23 21:59:00 -
[332]
Originally by: Lee ChanKa
if this will make server to work better go go go...good word don't surrender!!!
i watched 30 narutos today lol
i almost tried to find a job
p.s 5 minute post timer? wow thats excessive
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xAlexVladx
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:01:00 -
[333]
Edited by: xAlexVladx on 23/06/2010 22:01:32
Originally by: PI Mike
Dear Fail CCP Network Engineers and Management
Did you not test run anything before committing to action? Does your Management Team not know anything about project management?
Iceland must be in dire shortage of competent IT and Management "Professionals" if such a MASSIVE (over 100% now) deadline overrun does not even garner an apology to paying customers.
You fail, but luckily your game doesn't.
Thats one of the most sane and @object post in here, so expect alot of asskissing ccp to throw it back at you.
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GrimReefer2
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:01:00 -
[334]
Can I just point out to all the guys Brown-nosing over how well CCP have done to get TQ back up & running so fast...
IT ISN'T BACK UP & RUNNING YET....
I hope your not as premature in all areas of your life lol
Let them actually get it done before you start patting them on their backs....
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Aslan Inbarr
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:01:00 -
[335]
Edited by: Aslan Inbarr on 23/06/2010 22:01:19
Originally by: Cynical Attitude
Originally by: Aslan Inbarr
I have to say I'm amazed that there are people who play and understand eve that actually took the initial downtime estimate seriously.
You're amazed that Eve players assumed a basic level of competence at CCP. I doubt the point you are thus making was quite the one you intended. Yes, it's a complex task, but CCP's inability to come up with a realistic ETC is simply not good enough.
I haven't read every post in this topic, but the majority of the complaints are not, as you seem to think, about the length of time the changes are taking but the overrun. If CCP had originally given an ETC of 23:00, you would be making a valid point. They didn't. You aren't.
CCP, like any other gaming company out there, is going to put out their best (case) estimate. They are very rarely accurate. Therefore people are quite naive to believe them. That was my point. I expect a bit more wisdom, or at least cynicism, out of the Eve crowd.
As for the first part, you are right, I could have worded that a bit better.
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Mark wick
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:01:00 -
[336]
well, im bored haha ccp needs to turn on eve already
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Johnny Gurkha
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:01:00 -
[337]
Edited by: Johnny Gurkha on 23/06/2010 22:01:13
Sniping in a whine thread
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Lan Staz
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:01:00 -
[338]
Edited by: Lan Staz on 23/06/2010 22:02:12
deleted horrible misquote
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Ace2001
Caldari
S E A R
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:01:00 -
[339]
Originally by: Sublunar
CCP here is a good business advise for you: be impeccable with your word.
If you promise something will be done by the given time, you should be 100% sure that you can keep your word no matter what.
You've...never played any other MMO, have you?
Quote:
Perhaps in Iceland not keeping a promise is not a big deal, but EVE is international product and many people won't tollerate that. It's just very unprofessional.
See my above remark. (With an added: They never promised. Stated a time, possibly considered "giving their word" at best, but never did they promise.)
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Barakkus
Spacelane Innovation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:02:00 -
[340]
Originally by: Cannonfodder1982
p.s 5 minute post timer? wow thats excessive
It's b/c of Audrey Bitoni - Schoolgirl...
If you're confused look it up on EVE Search :P
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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kublai khanage
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:02:00 -
[341]
Originally by: LordSwift
oh this is just gold. I need to get more popcorn. Although i agree with many responses about ccp setting a huge dt window for themselves next time.
You can all keep dreaming about being reimburst. Personally i expected this delay and set a lonnnng skill. Keep up the good work ccp.
Oh i cant wait to read the forums when the servers go down for normal dt 2moro. Thats if they get them up anytime soon.
I have not laughed so much in years, thanks for a great post :)
Any News ? on the time the server will be up??
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Lady Aeri
Gallente
Serious Business Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:02:00 -
[342]
Wow...
Calm down people. They are doing everything they can to get EVE back up and running. Go out, do something. Go to the beach, go to a friends, do something other that sit here and complain that it's not up yet. Yeesh. Not that big of a deal!
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PI Mike
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:02:00 -
[343]
Originally by: Brother Paulan
Dear CCP,
Your extended-extended-extended downtime caused me brain damage due to the extensive whining/emoraging that I had to read on your forums.
Could I please be reinbursemened for medical care.
Thank you, and keep up the good work.
BP
I pay, CCP provides game. I pay, CCP provides game. I pay, CCP screws me around without apologising before providing game. I don't pay, CCP goes bankrupt because I'm not the only ****ed off customer. Simple. Morons. Stop sucking up and demand a higher level of customer service.
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Baenus
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:02:00 -
[344]
Edited by: Baenus on 23/06/2010 22:02:49
Originally by: Pat26
if you look at this :
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=769
try to understand about moving this stuff.
1-unplug all
2-move all
3-plug all
4-try to figure out which cord is not plug at the right place
5-Edit this post to tell people server is back online
It take time, YES
They always tell server will be back at UTC X-hour, YES
It's often reported, YES
But who know the work it represent to move those kind of server? Not much of us.
For anything else --> MasterCard XD
fly safe guys
hummmm well when we will be able to go back IG :P
Try to understand COMPETENT server migration
1. set up new hardware and test connections BEFORE shutting old server down.
2.On migration day test new hardware to ascertain no connections are bad
3.perform migration.
4.Boot new cluster up and run diagnostics
5. open for connections and lastly
6.Profit???
They weren't just moving the old server hardware buddy, they were migrating eve to a new farm with updated servers
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Ibeau Renoir
Colonial Fleet Services
Independent Faction
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:02:00 -
[345]
For all the people complaining that CCP should have given a pessimistic estimate of the time needed, I have only this to say:
Originally by: Hofstadter's Law
It always takes longer than you think it will, even if you take Hofstadter's Law into account.
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May O'Neez
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:02:00 -
[346]
Perhaps they already doubled the estimated time
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Snakester
Caldari
IronPig
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:02:00 -
[347]
I NEED TO GET ON AND GET MY EXTRACTORZ RUNNING AGAIN ......
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Wightpants IV
Gallente
British Legion
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:03:00 -
[348]
Originally by: wizechatmgr
As someone that has previously deployed a 400 unit cluster, you people have no clue the amount of stuff required to set something like this up.
You have to pull each rack out, install power, network, do your cross links, hook up no less than 4 cables per server and cut your hands on sharp metal edges. This isn't "A" server, it is a cluster of servers. It isn't like you just move one unit and your done. Now keep in mind they are also overhauling their existing network as well. Frankly, doing it under 72 hours seems like a dream.
Come on, this is Iceland! Surely Magn·s Ver Magn·sson and J=n Pßll Sigmarsson could do this in normal DT?
Ok. I'll wait.
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Tobin Shalim
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:03:00 -
[349]
Originally by: Aslan Inbarr
Edited by: Aslan Inbarr on 23/06/2010 22:01:19
Originally by: Cynical Attitude
Originally by: Aslan Inbarr
I have to say I'm amazed that there are people who play and understand eve that actually took the initial downtime estimate seriously.
You're amazed that Eve players assumed a basic level of competence at CCP. I doubt the point you are thus making was quite the one you intended. Yes, it's a complex task, but CCP's inability to come up with a realistic ETC is simply not good enough.
I haven't read every post in this topic, but the majority of the complaints are not, as you seem to think, about the length of time the changes are taking but the overrun. If CCP had originally given an ETC of 23:00, you would be making a valid point. They didn't. You aren't.
CCP, like any other gaming company out there, is going to put out their best (case) estimate. They are very rarely accurate. Therefore people are quite naive to believe them. That was my point. I expect a bit more wisdom, or at least cynicism, out of the Eve crowd.
As for the first part, you are right, I could have worded that a bit better.
Someone on the FB thread said that CCP should practice "Scotty Time". In that, say you know a job is going to take 3 hours. You give an estimate of 6 just in case something unforeseen comes up, so you're not going over the 6 hour estimate. And if/when you do it in 3 hours, you look like a god to your bosses and the people you're servicing.
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Originally by: Gierling
Tech III is going to be "Fully modular" until someone crams the "EW Bonus" modules together with the "8 Midslots" modules...
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Inspiration
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:03:00 -
[350]
For anyone complaining:
This is an immense undertaking and even that is a gross understatement.
Even if they slip 12 hours from the original schedule, it will have gone amazingly fast!
And tomorrow when you are playing again, you won't even notice a day has gone by as you be on the eve drug again :)
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Ivas Tiffy
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:03:00 -
[351]
14 hours instead of 6 aye ccp?
why not do the intelligent thing and over estimate your downtimes?
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FelixDerGrieche
Gallente
The Rising Stars
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:03:00 -
[352]
**** my escalations -.-
Anyways new Servers for the win :P
What will FCs do now? No more "first in system = first gridload"? Wewt i see nice fights comming soon!
/me grabs Gamecam!
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Cpt after
Minmatar
The Illuminati Reborn
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:03:00 -
[353]
Originally by: Skera
Originally by: Skera
hope its just jitters, but i've noticed that the api feed claims in evemon that my char suddenly takes 10 ekstra days for training! on one char its 15 days extra, than before dt, but generally 10+ days added!
Exception is for low rank skills though..
The noticable thing is for capital industrial ships before dt it was around 38 days now its 46 days,
other example is gallente carrier 5, before 42 days now 56 days..
I hope this is just due to the fact that server is not up yet!
anyone else notice the same bug ?
Just you, my queue is fine
This 5 min timer is crap! 
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Ulviirala Vauryndar
Gallente
Vauryndar Dalharil
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:03:00 -
[354]
Rabble rabble rabble rabble
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Zinth'ro
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:03:00 -
[355]
For all those whiners out there, please read the EULA and ToS:
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EULA: 11 PROPRIETARY RIGHTS , B. Rights to Certain Content
You have no interest in the value of your time spent playing the Game, for example, by the building up of the experience level of your character and the items your character accumulates during your time playing the Game. Your Account, and all attributes of your Account, including all corporations, actions, groups, titles and characters, and all objects, currency and items acquired, developed or delivered by or to characters as a result of play through your Accounts, are the sole and exclusive property of CCP, including any and all copyrights and intellectual property rights in or to any and all of the same, all of which are hereby expressly reserved.
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EULA: 12. NO WARRANTIES
The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game.
CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software.
While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures.
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TOS:
CCP MAY FIND IT NECESSARY ON OCCASION TO MAKE CHANGES TO OR RESET CERTAIN PARAMETERS OF THE PERSISTENT GAME WORLD MECHANICS, INTERFACE OR FEATURES OF EVE ONLINE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN GAME BALANCE AND ENHANCE PLAYABILITY OR PERFORMANCE FOR ITS SUBSCRIBERS. THESE CHANGES MAY AFFECT OR CAUSE SETBACKS FOR THE CHARACTERS YOUÆVE CREATED.
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Khannnnnnnnnn
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:03:00 -
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Edited by: Khannnnnnnnnn on 23/06/2010 22:04:23
@Zinth'ro
EULA 11 does not apply here. As 11 constitutes the supposed value of characters and items in game, and if you have access to them.
12 is closer :) But wouldn't hold up in court.
I understand people are upset about not getting online, ive seen it on many MMO forums, WoW's being the worse of the lot due to the number of players.
But since EvE is based on day unit's in a subscription and not hours, then if any downtime occurs that exceeds 50% of that time, in this case 12hrs+, then people are entitled to compo. Tis the law :)
Im sure CCP will be happy enough to give out 1 day to each account that is currently active.
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minty freshbreath
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:03:00 -
[357]
Clearly the hamsters are run on forum tears, its been a long journey, their a little thirsty.
Needs MOAR tears, although by page 11 i think we're nearly there.
troll army ASSEMBLE!
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Taoi Khan
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:03:00 -
[358]
I almost thought about turning on the TV to watch.
Gotcha
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Beesha123
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:04:00 -
[359]
LOL i love how some people fall apart when TQ is down
it is for the greater good people, chins up, it will be over soon.
P.S I will be selling hugs in Jita after DT for those of you who need support after this tragedy
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WhyteWulf
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:04:00 -
[360]
Originally by: Baenus
Originally by: Pat26
if you look at this :
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=769
try to understand about moving this stuff.
1-unplug all
2-move all
3-plug all
4-try to figure out which cord is not plug at the right place
5-Edit this post to tell people server is back online
It take time, YES
They always tell server will be back at UTC X-hour, YES
It's often reported, YES
But who know the work it represent to move those kind of server? Not much of us.
For anything else --> MasterCard XD
fly safe guys
hummmm well when we will be able to go back IG :P
Try to understand COMPETENT server migration
1. set up new hardware and test connections BEFORE shutting old server down.
2.On migration day test new hardware to ascertain no connections are bad
3.perform migration.
4.Boot new cluster up and run diagnostics
5. open for connections and lastly
6.Profit???
thats a great plan, if your moving to new servers. but ccp aren't. They are MOVING the servers to a differant room. Once in said new room, they will upgrade PARTS of their set-up.
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Brother Paulan
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:04:00 -
[361]
Originally by: Snakester
I NEED TO GET ON AND GET MY EXTRACTORZ RUNNING AGAIN ......
OMG!!! MY 23 HOURS EXTRACTORS!!!!!! REINBURSEEEeEE :P
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Alexas Kateiwa
Caldari
Gravis Unbound
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:04:00 -
[362]
w00p w00p, singularity up
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Decision Process
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:04:00 -
[363]
Originally by: Phastor
UTC = GMT ONLY in winter. And since most of europe uses Daylight Saving Time, now GMT = UTC+1, GMT+1 = UTC + 2 and so on...
Nope. UTC is GMT run on atomic clocks. GMT is taken from the position of the Sun relative to the Earth. ie Noon GMT is when the Sun is over the Greenwich Meridian. Which is the same, winter or summer. Much of Europe is on various versions of DST, but that doesn't change the position of the Greenwich Meridian, and it doesn't change GMT or UTC.
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Raknav
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:04:00 -
[364]
Holy hell cant CCP keep a deadline....Why publish deadlines and such if you cant keep them.
Here is what I recommend set your dead line long enough to allow for issues (for ex you could have said it would come back at 23:00 in the first place to allow for issues even tho you expected it to come up at 15:00) and if the server comes back sooner then the posed deadline people will be happy instead of complying and ranting. Seriously it's not that hard of a thing to do.
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Alimy
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:04:00 -
[365]
dude people quit crying and get a life im in iraq and ya this is fun but there is that thing called life or do they not sell that at ur local walmart?
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Wormhole Baiter
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:04:00 -
[366]
Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong.
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Skera
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:05:00 -
[367]
Originally by: Cpt after
Originally by: Skera
Originally by: Skera
hope its just jitters, but i've noticed that the api feed claims in evemon that my char suddenly takes 10 ekstra days for training! on one char its 15 days extra, than before dt, but generally 10+ days added!
Exception is for low rank skills though..
The noticable thing is for capital industrial ships before dt it was around 38 days now its 46 days,
other example is gallente carrier 5, before 42 days now 56 days..
I hope this is just due to the fact that server is not up yet!
anyone else notice the same bug ?
Gotcha, i hope its just a sick bug locally for me then!
Just you, my queue is fine
This 5 min timer is crap!
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Frenzerelly
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:05:00 -
[368]
It seem that this operation was pretty big, and and not very well planned (no room for setbacks (SAN switch)). The time for the server to come back only is being pushed out over and over. You guys be much better off telling us the server be down for 24 hours or something, rather then keeping pushing out the server up time repeatedly.
Other than that, the web-site performance greatly improved, thanks a bunch for that.
Please get the server back up ASAP, my hands are shacking Is there some thing like eveholic anonymous?
Cheers
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Tia Tzu
Caldari
G.E.A.R.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:05:00 -
[369]
Feel free to delete tyrannis during the server move.
or....
Accidentally lose the patch?
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Libin Herobi
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:05:00 -
[370]
Originally by: Lady Aeri
Wow...
Calm down people. They are doing everything they can to get EVE back up and running. Go out, do something. Go to the beach, go to a friends, do something other that sit here and complain that it's not up yet. Yeesh. Not that big of a deal!
I hope your account gets accidentally deleted and takes 3 weeks to be restored and then someone tells you to "calm down and go out, do something"
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witchking42
Swag Co.
Sandbox Bullies
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:05:00 -
[371]
Give the guys at CCP a break...
Do you know how hard it it to heard thousands of hamsters across a data centre without loosing any, they keep falling through the air-con vents in the floor.
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Leando
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:06:00 -
[372]
Hey CCp.......Tell that computer nerd , geeky **** thats doing ur install......the bloody thing needs to be turned on for it to work....
And to all you IT nerds that think its hard work ........well.......try dis arming land mines for a living ..,.....bunch of nubs
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luZk
Amarr
Internal Revenue Service
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:06:00 -
[373]
Edited by: luZk on 23/06/2010 22:06:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp3N_C5PH2g
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Elessar Elian
Weatherlight inc
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:06:00 -
[374]
Originally by: Aslan Inbarr
Edited by: Aslan Inbarr on 23/06/2010 22:01:19
Originally by: Cynical Attitude
Originally by: Aslan Inbarr
I have to say I'm amazed that there are people who play and understand eve that actually took the initial downtime estimate seriously.
You're amazed that Eve players assumed a basic level of competence at CCP. I doubt the point you are thus making was quite the one you intended. Yes, it's a complex task, but CCP's inability to come up with a realistic ETC is simply not good enough.
I haven't read every post in this topic, but the majority of the complaints are not, as you seem to think, about the length of time the changes are taking but the overrun. If CCP had originally given an ETC of 23:00, you would be making a valid point. They didn't. You aren't.
CCP, like any other gaming company out there, is going to put out their best (case) estimate. They are very rarely accurate. Therefore people are quite naive to believe them. That was my point. I expect a bit more wisdom, or at least cynicism, out of the Eve crowd.
As for the first part, you are right, I could have worded that a bit better.
And cynicism you will get. Their estimation was c*** and if you don't believe someone with which you have a serious relationship (they get paid right?), theres a problem. I don't care if it takes 3h or 2d, I only care about them giving completely remote ETCs to their customers.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:06:00 -
[375]
*reluctantly puts away base guitar to go back to his eve habit*
Good Job CCP.
(Why do they call it a network? they never work!)
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Cannonfodder1982
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:06:00 -
[376]
0900: All EVE Services go offline. (Web, Forums, Test Servers, EVE Gate, TQ, basically everything hosted in London)
doesnt that mean TQ is in London not iceland as people keep saying?
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Dax Frey
Caldari
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:07:00 -
[377]
Edited by: Dax Frey on 23/06/2010 22:07:41
I take internet spaceships pretty serious. so please, take your time fixing/upgrading the server. I would rather have less lag in the future than have 8 hours of play time.
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TooFatToFish
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:07:00 -
[378]
Guess your CEO should have filled this out
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Dinta Zembo
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:07:00 -
[379]
I hope the server blows up and people get to watch this forum page for another 24 hours.. refreshing, refreshing..
..
More refreshing..
Do you think the guys doing that move like working overtime for 8-10 hours?
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Barakkus
Spacelane Innovation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:08:00 -
[380]
Edited by: Barakkus on 23/06/2010 22:08:00
Originally by: Baenus
Edited by: Baenus on 23/06/2010 22:02:49
Originally by: Pat26
if you look at this :
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=769
try to understand about moving this stuff.
1-unplug all
2-move all
3-plug all
4-try to figure out which cord is not plug at the right place
5-Edit this post to tell people server is back online
It take time, YES
They always tell server will be back at UTC X-hour, YES
It's often reported, YES
But who know the work it represent to move those kind of server? Not much of us.
For anything else --> MasterCard XD
fly safe guys
hummmm well when we will be able to go back IG :P
Try to understand COMPETENT server migration
1. set up new hardware and test connections BEFORE shutting old server down.
2.On migration day test new hardware to ascertain no connections are bad
3.perform migration.
4.Boot new cluster up and run diagnostics
5. open for connections and lastly
6.Profit???
They weren't just moving the old server hardware buddy, they were migrating eve to a new farm with updated servers
They are using the same servers, just consolidated everything into the same room, why would you waste millions of dollars buying all new servers to move everything to a different room and upgrade the networking equipment?
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Biore
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:08:00 -
[381]
Originally by: Cannonfodder1982
0900: All EVE Services go offline. (Web, Forums, Test Servers, EVE Gate, TQ, basically everything hosted in London)
doesnt that mean TQ is in London not iceland as people keep saying?
correct.
As with most of the infrastructure of the world.
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sselciaor
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:08:00 -
[382]
cracking up, normal upgrades are always overestimated, this seems a pretty major chage.. (don't have foggiest what it involves, but a lot of f'ing effort springs to mind)
CCP 12hrs = normal 18-24hrs, 7pm=2am etc etc its a day off chill pills, long skills and enjoy life.
millionthing giving worst case estimates/timings so people don't get over frustrated at inevitable problems.
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Greygal
Gallente
Sephray Industries
Serenitas Solutus
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:08:00 -
[383]
I can't upgrade my computer without something going wrong causing it to take double or triple the time I expected it to take... so I've no problem with the extended downtime. I expected it (6 hours seemed awful short to me).
Besides, gives me time to do stuff that gets neglected thanks to Eve... my kitchen hasn't been this clean since, well, since the extended Tyrannis expansion downtime :)
Loving how fast the forums are loading now! Wow!
Keep up the good work CCP!
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Exie
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:08:00 -
[384]
Originally by: Benny0795
CCP can we have a ETA on EVEGATE peas
Read the very first post... I know it is long, but near the bottom they state when eve-gate will be up.
E...
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CCP Adida
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:09:00 -
[385]
Cleared additional trolling
Adida
Community Rep
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:09:00 -
[386]
Originally by: Raknav
Holy hell cant CCP keep a deadline....Why publish deadlines and such if you cant keep them.
Here is what I recommend set your dead line long enough to allow for issues (for ex you could have said it would come back at 23:00 in the first place to allow for issues even tho you expected it to come up at 15:00) and if the server comes back sooner then the posed deadline people will be happy instead of complying and ranting. Seriously it's not that hard of a thing to do.
+1 for this. Dont give us super optimistic deadlines, since we all know you fail at them anyways. In fact some one might make solid claim is misleading consumer advertisement on this. Better to reserve enough time in advance and of all goes well come back online early then this rulette of 4-5*exteded downtime.
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Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:09:00 -
[387]
WTS Meatballshoes
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Brother Paulan
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:09:00 -
[388]
Originally by: Phaese
Originally by: PI Mike
Originally by: Brother Paulan
Dear CCP,
Your extended-extended-extended downtime caused me brain damage due to the extensive whining/emoraging that I had to read on your forums.
Could I please be reinbursemened for medical care.
Thank you, and keep up the good work.
BP
I pay, CCP provides game. I pay, CCP provides game. I pay, CCP screws me around without apologising before providing game. I don't pay, CCP goes bankrupt because I'm not the only ****ed off customer. Simple. Morons. Stop sucking up and demand a higher level of customer service.
OK, quit.
Don't forget to leave your stufz to Brother Paulan and don't let the pod hit you on the way out.
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Rufus Chaosium
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:09:00 -
[389]
Having worked for an ISP wholesaler I understand the difficulties of what you guys just did. So well done. I'm sure we'll all appreciate the benefits this will give.
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WhyteWulf
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:10:00 -
[390]
Servers are in London, not iceland. they are staying in the same building, just being moved to a bigger room with better aircon and more room for expansion.
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Bek Thyron
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:10:00 -
[391]
Who accidentially the whole eve??
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Aslan Inbarr
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:16:00 -
[392]
Edited by: Aslan Inbarr on 23/06/2010 22:21:31
Originally by: Elessar Elian
Originally by: Aslan Inbarr
Edited by: Aslan Inbarr on 23/06/2010 22:01:19
Originally by: Cynical Attitude
Originally by: Aslan Inbarr
I have to say I'm amazed that there are people who play and understand eve that actually took the initial downtime estimate seriously.
You're amazed that Eve players assumed a basic level of competence at CCP. I doubt the point you are thus making was quite the one you intended. Yes, it's a complex task, but CCP's inability to come up with a realistic ETC is simply not good enough.
I haven't read every post in this topic, but the majority of the complaints are not, as you seem to think, about the length of time the changes are taking but the overrun. If CCP had originally given an ETC of 23:00, you would be making a valid point. They didn't. You aren't.
CCP, like any other gaming company out there, is going to put out their best (case) estimate. They are very rarely accurate. Therefore people are quite naive to believe them. That was my point. I expect a bit more wisdom, or at least cynicism, out of the Eve crowd.
As for the first part, you are right, I could have worded that a bit better.
And cynicism you will get. Their estimation was c*** and if you don't believe someone with which you have a serious relationship (they get paid right?), theres a problem. I don't care if it takes 3h or 2d, I only care about them giving completely remote ETCs to their customers.
Now that made me laugh. They get paid, that doesn't mean they are your *****. If you are unsatisfied with the service, don't pay for it anymore. Move on. If there is an equal or better product for you out there, pay for it instead. *shrugs*
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Ryel Theon
Aperture Ventures
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:19:00 -
[393]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
[
We actually did have a static page that we kept updated with delay times. We also updated our Facebook page, and I think I don't want to see Twitter again for a few days :)
Except the hour or two the server serving the static page was down and all we got for updates was "connection refused" :)
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Hauler Darby
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:19:00 -
[394]
Two things:
1. These 'downtime threads' are one of my favorite parts of the Eve experience. Everything from conspiracy theories to recipes. Keep up the good work, people.
2. For CCP, I always thought that it was best to say "Maybe we can have it running by tomorrow." Have it up in half an hour, and be thought a hero, than say "We'll have it up in half an hour." Not get it up til the next day, and look like a goat. I guess it's a management strategy thing, though.
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WhyteWulf
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:19:00 -
[395]
Originally by: Bek Thyron
Who accidentially the whole eve??
Blizzard did....lets go spam their forums.
On another note....forum blip or was it just me that got that?
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Datdaar Vanmestvaalt
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:20:00 -
[396]
Originally by: Lady Aeri
Wow...
Calm down people. They are doing everything they can to get EVE back up and running. ...
Probably. I expect nothing less. Originally by: Lady Aeri
Go out, do something. Go to the beach, go to a friends, ...
Eh, in the middle of the night? It's dark outside, I am afraid of the dark, bad things can happen.... Originally by: Lady Aeri
do something other that sit here and complain that it's not up yet. ...
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LordSwift
Caldari
Amigo Innovations
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:20:00 -
[397]
Originally by: Bek Thyron
Who accidentially the whole eve??
Yeah was it my end or did something cause the Bubble stabiliser to go nuts. hahahaha
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SomebodyKickedMyDog
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:20:00 -
[398]
Originally by: Raknav
Holy hell cant CCP keep a deadline....Why publish deadlines and such if you cant keep them.
they don't have any competition. they can do whatever they want lol.
i always think it's a good idea to announce a longer outage window than you expect it to be. that way you have yourself covered if things go seriously wrong, and if things go smoothly and you bring it back up before expected, people applaud you.
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Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:21:00 -
[399]
Originally by: Greygal
I can't upgrade my computer without something going wrong
Maybe that might qualify you for a well paid job at CCP?
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creativesparks
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:21:00 -
[400]
sum of you guys must of missed the dev blog post detailing exactly what the upgrade involves...
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=769
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Rick Rothsar
Ghosts of Ragnarok
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:22:00 -
[401]
1) People don't say 'set a long skill' because it sounds trendy. HTFU
2) u mad~~
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Nathan'Scope' McAllen
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:22:00 -
[402]
Definetly a forum blip, blimp, whatever.
Lets do the 'what are you doing right now' game while we wait!
/me Playing random bass while listening to everadio, and watching this thread.
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Konoch
Caldari
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:23:00 -
[403]
Originally by: SomebodyKickedMyDog
Originally by: Raknav
Holy hell cant CCP keep a deadline....Why publish deadlines and such if you cant keep them.
they don't have any competition. they can do whatever they want lol.
i always think it's a good idea to announce a longer outage window than you expect it to be. that way you have yourself covered if things go seriously wrong, and if things go smoothly and you bring it back up before expected, people applaud you.
The rule in things like this is to try to do this in the quickest way possible. But when doing large things like this things go wrong. I do think CCP needs to compensate players for what happened today on the fact that this was supposed to be an 8 hour deal and now its going far closer to 18. I hope everything does end up alright but sometimes crap happens. Hopefully everything is now on the new schedule and we can get back to buisness when its over.
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rpriebe1979
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:23:00 -
[404]
Originally by: Leando
Hey CCp.......Tell that computer nerd , geeky **** thats doing ur install......the bloody thing needs to be turned on for it to work....
And to all you IT nerds that think its hard work ........well.......try dis arming land mines for a living ..,.....bunch of nubs
lulz
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Dr DustRemover
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:23:00 -
[405]
Dear CCP,
Please delay the return of the server to sometime tomorrow. The tears provide me with much amusement.
Thanks.
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Janos Saal
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:24:00 -
[406]
Originally by: Leando
And to all you IT nerds that think its hard work ........well.......try dis arming land mines for a living ..,.....bunch of nubs
I hope your hands get blown off so I never have to read another one of your posts.
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Eternity 77RUS
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:24:00 -
[407]
Ordinary fail.
Returned back home after a midnight and found EVE still laying down, although it was 8 hours after planned on-time. Can anybody explain me - why was I not surprised? :)
F... CCP
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Balsak
Minmatar
Friends of Bigfoot
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:25:00 -
[408]
CCP should reimburse all the whiners for their lost game time. Mail out those cheques for 50 cents but don't forget the suitable shipping costs, 5 dollars should suffice I would think.
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Yakumo Smith
Gallente
No End To Infinity
Fleetingly Finite
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:25:00 -
[409]
As a member of a technical change advisory board it just seems like a few key things were missed in the planning stages of this endeavor.
The reality is we are into an unscheduled downtime situation and if my organisation pulled that kind of stunt we'd be "fined" by our clients and suffer reputationally as well. The clients would not be asking us why we didn't come back at 2130 as per the last estimate, they would be asking why we were not up at 1500, what was being done to resolve the problem and what backup was in place to get us on in the mean time. Having a few problems with some pieces of kit doesn't translate as "dodgy kit from a supplier" it translates as "didn't have contingency in place"
As it stands, the EULA protects CCP financially so they know they can just take as long as they want, so it costs them nothing to give the best estimate time and then just extend the window until it's done.
Treat us users like we are your best client and the company next door offers a cheaper identical product.
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Sator Nyatt
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:25:00 -
[410]
Its not CCP's fault its taken so long, the project will take what the project will take. Unfortunately, IT Project Managers go to the same school as Civil Service Project Managers - they never estimate the time right, and i think whoever teaches them how to use MS Project keeps making them look at the optimistic timeline.
Its just a fact of life. IT Project Managers have no idea how long things really take! Send them out to some construction sites - they're not quicker, they just learn how to set more realistic milestones.
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jona1
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:25:00 -
[411]
"Update #4: Singularity has been returned to service and is now accepting connections."
Ummm no its not please update thread
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redtube lover
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:27:00 -
[412]
C'mon Hurry Up! My Right hand is red raw iv been on redtube ALL DAY!, plzzzz i neeeed EVE...!
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Corbon Hydrashock
Raata Invicti
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:27:00 -
[413]
Originally by: Dasola
Originally by: Raknav
Holy hell cant CCP keep a deadline....Why publish deadlines and such if you cant keep them.
Here is what I recommend set your dead line long enough to allow for issues (for ex you could have said it would come back at 23:00 in the first place to allow for issues even tho you expected it to come up at 15:00) and if the server comes back sooner then the posed deadline people will be happy instead of complying and ranting. Seriously it's not that hard of a thing to do.
+1 for this. Dont give us super optimistic deadlines, since we all know you fail at them anyways. In fact some one might make solid claim is misleading consumer advertisement on this. Better to reserve enough time in advance and of all goes well come back online early then this rulette of 4-5*exteded downtime.
since we all know you fail at them anyways
lol - yeah, but I am against all the CCP-griefers complaining right now.
I didn't know about the server switch until an alliance member wrote in Alliance chat to make sure we set a very long skill to train for it - he nailed it on the head, but - to be honest - if I had been paying attention and read the news of what they are trying to do (right now), I, too, would have automatically guessed the server would never be up in the amount of time stated.
If any of you did believe it, well, welcome to eve, I'm sure your first week had you learning a lot of stuff! And now you just learned a little more. Still, we appreciate CCP (most times), and we play on.
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Frenzerelly
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:27:00 -
[414]
Originally by: Lederstrumpf
Originally by: Greygal
I can't upgrade my computer without something going wrong
Maybe that might qualify you for a well paid job at CCP?
AMEN!!!
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gigitrix
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:28:00 -
[415]
Originally by: Schocko
I haven't read the Eve forums much until today. I wish I hadn't started, because up until now I had thought that the general maturity level of Eve players was more than that of World of Warcraft players.
Disappointed.
This ^.
And yes I do have legit concerns, having since I'm currently just going to sleep. But no. There's youtube. And TV. And even RL for those of you with Social V... (shoulda trained dammit)
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Aslan Inbarr
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:28:00 -
[416]
Originally by: Nathan'Scope' McAllen
Definetly a forum blip, blimp, whatever.
Lets do the 'what are you doing right now' game while we wait!
/me Playing random bass while listening to everadio, and watching this thread.
/me gleefully reading through this thread, amused by the raw anger some have over a game being down for a few hours longer than expected and wanting a refund that might at top end amount to $1.
I now think that there might be more than one of these kids out there now...
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Jason1138
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:28:00 -
[417]
""Update #4: Singularity has been returned to service and is now accepting connections."
Ummm no its not please update threadRolling Eyes"
singularity is up and running. maybe you're thinking of tranquility?
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cluster 1
Gallente
GTE Limited
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:28:00 -
[418]
Originally by: jona1
"Update #4: Singularity has been returned to service and is now accepting connections."
Ummm no its not please update thread
FALLOUT!!!!!!! I am gonna come and get you for this nonsense, and by come i mean imagine, and by get i mean tickle.
love and kisses
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Dr DustRemover
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:28:00 -
[419]
Originally by: Janos Saal
Originally by: Leando
And to all you IT nerds that think its hard work ........well.......try dis arming land mines for a living ..,.....bunch of nubs
I hope your hands get blown off so I never have to read another one of your posts.
I concur.
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Basta Kindred
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:29:00 -
[420]
Originally by: jona1
"Update #4: Singularity has been returned to service and is now accepting connections."
Ummm no its not please update thread
Ummm yes it is please ignore ^^that^^ and learn to read.
Singularity =/ Tranquility
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Gilgamoth
Eldritch Storm
The Matari Consortium
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:29:00 -
[421]
/me sniffs
Ahh I love the smell of whine in the morning
Take all the time you need CCP, we don't want a rushed job and another server roll back.
Regards,
Gil
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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:29:00 -
[422]
Originally by: wizechatmgr
Anyone else get a sudden plex purchase email at 852PM that failed and then 853PM Eastern that succeeded? I ironically can't get into my account info to see if this is "real" or not.
Has anyone checked to see if any unintended account safeguards were bypassed during the upgrade? I'm wondering if this is just an old queued mail that suddenly made it out.
We had an issue with that particular portion of our Network. It should now be resolved. Account safeguards were not bypassed, so what you saw was just an odd email.
Fallout
Associate Community Manager
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Spinejuicer
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:29:00 -
[423]
Originally by: redtube lover
C'mon Hurry Up! My Right hand is red raw iv been on redtube ALL DAY!, plzzzz i neeeed EVE...!
I like Redtube as much as the next guy but... you really named your toon that huh? Wow.
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Ryel Theon
Aperture Ventures
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:30:00 -
[424]
Originally by: redtube lover
C'mon Hurry Up! My Right hand is red raw iv been on redtube ALL DAY!, plzzzz i neeeed EVE...!
Singularity != Tranquility
eve-offline.net says Singularity has 282 players connected
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Mang0o
Caldari
D00M.
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:30:00 -
[425]
I wont even mind if the server is down for a week, as long CCP is working on getting better servers and less lag, then im 100% happy to w8 for the server to come up
Keep up the great job CCP
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0NADA0
Caldari
PIK-NERETVA
Species 69
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:30:00 -
[426]
Originally by: HeliosGal
Edited by: HeliosGal on 23/06/2010 20:57:27
... Just going to see if this helps with lag or not. The hamsters now have mroe room to move and air conditioning
MEGA LOL!!!! :)))
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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:30:00 -
[427]
Originally by: Benny0795
CCP can we have a ETA on EVEGATE peas
EVE Gate is connected to TQ and so will return to service once TQ is back up. We're keeping a running update in the first post of this thread.
Fallout
Associate Community Manager
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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thekiller2002us
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:30:00 -
[428]
my battlcruiser skill (lvl3) runs out in like two hours- i hope the servers are back online in like half an hour.
Pretty pretty pretty please CCP with a cherry on top
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Tobin Shalim
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:31:00 -
[429]
Originally by: Lederstrumpf
Originally by: Greygal
I can't upgrade my computer without something going wrong
Maybe that might qualify you for a well paid job at CCP?
I think Tuxford already has that job :)
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Originally by: Gierling
Tech III is going to be "Fully modular" until someone crams the "EW Bonus" modules together with the "8 Midslots" modules...
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BBQfire
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:31:00 -
[430]
i can remember once "moving" a serverroom from one of my former customers - it took them 2 days and they planned 1 :) and they did have much less hardware then CCP. Luckily I had my vacation planned on these days.
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PC Tammy
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:32:00 -
[431]
Originally by: Cloora
@ all the people asking for a reimbursement...
Are you new? CCP NEVER has reimbursed for lost game time for an extended or unexpected game time. NEVER
LOL at people complaining. Get a freaking life... EVE is a hobby I have that I like to do. But I have plenty of backups that i can go do.
your wrong ccp did do just that a long time ago, mind you i have been around for a long long time. I am not saying that ccp should now. just pointing out that ccp has indeed in the past added game time :P
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Melvin Justice
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:32:00 -
[432]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Update #4: Singularity has been returned to service and is now accepting connections.
fail!
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BearUkraine
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:32:00 -
[433]
Originally by: Spinejuicer
Originally by: redtube lover
C'mon Hurry Up! My Right hand is red raw iv been on redtube ALL DAY!, plzzzz i neeeed EVE...!
I like Redtube as much as the next guy but... you really named your toon that huh? Wow.
Link on the video you like :) We will estimate your taste
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Ace2001
Caldari
S E A R
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:32:00 -
[434]
Edited by: Ace2001 on 23/06/2010 22:34:15
Originally by: Leando
Hey CCp.......Tell that computer nerd , geeky **** thats doing ur install......the bloody thing needs to be turned on for it to work....
And to all you IT nerds that think its hard work ........well.......try dis arming land mines for a living ..,.....bunch of nubs
..Yes, because those things are so similar that we can just so easily compare them together.
I mean, everybody knows that if you plug a hard drive in wrong the entire computer will blow up and take you with it.
So many idiots posting in this thread that it's overwhelming the intelligent people. :(
For those of you still whining: You had plenty of warning. And this is not the first time to happen, let alone the first game it has ever happened to in the history of MMO's. It's common knowledge to most people that if there's a patch or database transfer, YOU SET A LONG SKILL. (And/or make plans to do other things that day on games that don't have skills training while you're offline like EVE does.)
Edit:
Originally by: Melvin Justice
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Update #4: Singularity has been returned to service and is now accepting connections.
fail!
And how did they fail? As somebody above me posted:
Originally by: Basta Kindred
Singularity =/ Tranquility
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Barakkus
Spacelane Innovation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:33:00 -
[435]
Edited by: Barakkus on 23/06/2010 22:34:24
Typical day at CCP
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Ibeau Renoir
Colonial Fleet Services
Independent Faction
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:34:00 -
[436]
Originally by: Nathan'Scope' McAllen
(Why do they call it a network? they never work!)
It's a typo. It should be "notwork".
(I joke. It's only a game. Though I hope I can log in soon, my skill queue is about to be empty...)
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Bullet Shield
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:34:00 -
[437]
Originally by: Ace2001
Originally by: Leando
Hey CCp.......Tell that computer nerd , geeky **** thats doing ur install......the bloody thing needs to be turned on for it to work....
And to all you IT nerds that think its hard work ........well.......try dis arming land mines for a living ..,.....bunch of nubs
..Yes, because those things are so similar that we can just so easily compare them together.
I mean, everybody knows that if you plug a hard drive in wrong the entire computer will blow up and take you with it.
Excellent Post From one of Eves leet Forum Warriors
So many idiots posting in this thread that it's overwhelming the intelligent people. :(
For those of you still whining: You had plenty of warning. And this is not the first time to happen, let alone the first game it has ever happened to in the history of MMO's. It's common knowledge to most people that if there's a patch or database transfer, YOU SET A LONG SKILL. (And/or make plans to do other things that day on games that don't have skills training while you're offline like EVE does.)
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Greygal
Gallente
Sephray Industries
Serenitas Solutus
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:34:00 -
[438]
Originally by: Tobin Shalim
Originally by: Lederstrumpf
Originally by: Greygal
I can't upgrade my computer without something going wrong
Maybe that might qualify you for a well paid job at CCP?
I think Tuxford already has that job :)
Well, I am currently unemployed...
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Borun Tal
Minmatar
Wacom Research
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:35:00 -
[439]
Are we there yet?
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Ryel Theon
Aperture Ventures
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:35:00 -
[440]
Originally by: thekiller2002us
my battlcruiser skill (lvl3) runs out in like two hours- i hope the servers are back online in like half an hour.
Pretty pretty pretty please CCP with a cherry on top
Planned CCP downtime and you didn't switch to a skill that had a couple days left to train? Poor choice on your part.
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Eternity 77RUS
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:35:00 -
[441]
Originally by: Sator Nyatt
Its not CCP's fault its taken so long, the project will take what the project will take.
Nonsense! The project should take so long as it was planned! Otherwise the project has failed! CCP failed with their transition project. No one care of the reasons. The fail is the fail!
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CCP Adida
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:35:00 -
[442]
Cleared up additional trolling.
Adida
Community Rep
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Jarajakk
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:35:00 -
[443]
Nice to see CCP are trying to deal with lag and keep the community informed as they do so.
So give them a break guys
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Gataga
Therapy.
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:35:00 -
[444]
TBH if this is a start to many problems that need to be addressed in eve Take the time u need CCP. Considering the Time and Effort it takes to move and re get everything going again.
CCP u guys should of made a pod cast with all the work. Some people just think networking and programming are so easy. lolz
Oh Yea Stop Whining guys.. U can survive one day without eve
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Vanessa Oris
Ground Zero Industrial
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:35:00 -
[445]
Nope, still nothing on Singularity. Must be a few more issues that crept up. Eh, no big, gives me time to cook dinner.
*fires up the grill*
"Should we fear that which hides within itself, yet acts like the schoolyard bully? I think not." - Vanessa, to an acquaintence |
Jovian Dax
Caldari
The First Order
Consortium.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:35:00 -
[446]
Cache cleared. |
Lisettewi
Gallente
DOCS RUFF RIDERS
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:35:00 -
[447]
Good work CCP hell of a job moving it all in such a short amount of time,
better to be safe then sorry in making sure everything works perfectly whatever the time it takes.
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Omal Oma
Shadowed Command
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:35:00 -
[448]
Edited by: Omal Oma on 23/06/2010 22:37:00
I'm pretty psyched to get back in.
Do the devs think the 23:00 time frame is gonna be met?
oh! Can we have more details in the form of podcast/blog as to the headaches you guys experienced today?
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Leather Lord
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:36:00 -
[449]
Would be great if CCP could let us know if there will be hours still, or if the solution is just around the corner.
I know it might be difficult to estimate, but would be great with a shot from the hip (for what that is worth).
Probably heading to bed though :( I've already seen this movie..
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creativesparks
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:36:00 -
[450]
1. Update #4: Singularity has been returned to service and is now accepting connections.
2. Update #4: Singularity has been returned to service and is now accepting connections. This refers to the test server :D
notice the difference lol.
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Dentrius
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:38:00 -
[451]
Originally by: Omal Oma
I'm pretty psyched to get back in.
Do the devs think the 23:00 time frame is gonna be met?
I just hope that my evemon is wrong and I know more than three skills, but I'm ready to rock otherwise (although if all my character knows how to do is use a turret, open doors and flush toilets, I'll end up working as a Quafe vending machine...
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Usagi Tsukino
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:39:00 -
[452]
Originally by: CCP Adida
Cleared up additional trolling.
Obviously not. This thread is still 15 pages long.
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Ryhss
Caldari
Victory Fleet Systems
C.H.A.L.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:40:00 -
[453]
Originally by: Sealiah
Edited by: Sealiah on 23/06/2010 20:57:42
The coffee is running out! Please let us in or we'll fall asleep :(
THIS!
Originally by: Abrazzar
I don't know what's going on but I am terribly upset about it.
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PI Mike
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:40:00 -
[454]
Herewith some corrections to this threads first post:
Hello all,
We have "successfully" moved our Tranquility servers to their new location, and Tranquility is not scheduled to return to service in the near future. We did not really have a plan, but thought we would try to have the Web sites and Tranquility returned to service at 15:00 UTC, however, during the move we realised that we must have been too high to notice that we plugged the wrong cables into the wrong holes, somehow leading to network and SAN switch issues, which resulted in even further extended service return delay. We have "resolved" those issues, which is why the cluster is still down, and are pretending to work on returning Tranquility to service as quickly as possible.
Thank you all for your patience while we continue to hash up this necessary server move. We don't care that we have messed you around and that you are ****ed and forget about time reimbursement. The suck ups are still sucking our ****s, so **** you all :)
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Jokerface666
Amarr
Cosmology
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:41:00 -
[455]
Guys, please calm down,
most of you are sitting at home and watching TV or something, the CCP guys are at work now in LONDON it's 23:30 (EVE-Time)
so those guyes are there since 09:00 to give you less lags and less connection losses.
I'm an IT guy, and got my own company, i know how hard it is to move a Datacenter from one Geographical location to another, eve if you prepare EVERYTHING, there wil be still something that won't work lie broken switches, corrupted files and so on.
What do you want, EVE online before really finished and then crashing after 6 hours again, or do you want it set up how it's meant to be, and stable....
If you want an unstable game, full of dumbasses, where you have to pai for every expansion go and play WOW.
Br,
Joker
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Leisen
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:41:00 -
[456]
I can't believe all these people complaining about the delay and "shocking customer service". This was no small feat! I, for one, am psyched about the upgrade. This is going to be siiick.
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BBQfire
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:41:00 -
[457]
Originally by: Barakkus
Edited by: Barakkus on 23/06/2010 22:34:24
Typical day at CCP
muhaha
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-rQkf_-HkE
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Vexxas Tarokin
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:41:00 -
[458]
Edited by: Vexxas Tarokin on 23/06/2010 22:42:56
Edited by: Vexxas Tarokin on 23/06/2010 22:41:44
It always amazes me how many trollers and nubs sit here posting that CCP should double their estimates, when setting times for their SW/HW updates and upgrades. Maybe it's because they understand that they will get just as many trollers saying "WTF I work in the industry and it doesnt take that long." Cheers CCP for getting as far as you have in this feat and only having switching issues.
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joshua boston
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:41:00 -
[459]
HURRY UP!!! i'm at work... and I pass my time by playing eve at work... due to your lack of technical efficiency I am actually having to work damn it. Fix yourself CCP or I will fight you.
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James Vayne
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:42:00 -
[460]
I find people who have no idea how difficult it is to physically move a server from A to B and then bring it back online - safely - with all your account information and data intact actually is will always complain about the length of time and shocking customer service.
Perhaps they prefer that CCP had rushed to getting it back online and people found their accounts missing and a whole variety of other things that can go wrong in a server move.
Quit complaining and grow up. It's not the end of your world (though perhaps it is for some of you?)
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sue denim
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:44:00 -
[461]
upload at8 day 5/6 so we have something to watch please (I'm sure the people responsible for it have nothing to do with the server move)
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steejans nix
Amarr
0beron Construct
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:44:00 -
[462]
Originally by: Jokerface666
Guys, please calm down,
most of you are sitting at home and watching TV or something, the CCP guys are at work now in LONDON it's 23:30 (EVE-Time)
so those guyes are there since 09:00 to give you less lags and less connection losses.
I'm an IT guy, and got my own company, i know how hard it is to move a Datacenter from one Geographical location to another, eve if you prepare EVERYTHING, there wil be still something that won't work lie broken switches, corrupted files and so on.
What do you want, EVE online before really finished and then crashing after 6 hours again, or do you want it set up how it's meant to be, and stable....
If you want an unstable game, full of dumbasses, where you have to pai for every expansion go and play WOW.
Br,
Joker
Or, they all went to the pub at 3 pm to watch the football, got hammered after when England finally won a game now on the way back kebabs and pizza etc and will prob puke all over the brand new servers........
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Benny0795
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:44:00 -
[463]
CCP you having many troubles tonight?
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Slow 12
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:44:00 -
[464]
Originally by: Julienne Poirier
whats a few hours off anyways
AC in ICE-land, open a window
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Johnny Gurkha
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:45:00 -
[465]
TQ is up! |
Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:45:00 -
[466]
TUXFORD!
Quote:
Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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xXgary glitterXx
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:45:00 -
[467]
Originally by: Quit complaining and grow up. It's not the end of your world (though perhaps it is for some of you?)[/quote
But the rl world is so scary we like being in space were when **** hits the fan we just go back to our clone station and get a FREE! ibis
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Tasjan Mer
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:46:00 -
[468]
CCP,
I for one would like to take the time to say thank you to all those at CCP who took the time, initiative, planning and expense to improve our overall experience.
Afterall they could have used the funds reserved for this project on something else.
Now please QQ some more ye ungrateful ones, it entertains the masses.
Cheers
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Polar Minx
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:46:00 -
[469]
Wonder if the Hamsters will need a cold weather package now
http://blogidaho.biz/hamster.jpg
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Charlotte Yakamoto
Lead Farmers
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:47:00 -
[470]
I'm not expecting or requesting some kind of reimbursement. Hell, it's only a few hours, you're never gonna notice anyway, it just doesn't make a difference. What would be nice tho would for example be to give everybody that 100% training bonus new characters get for say....1 million SP. That wont cost CCP anything, and everybody can be happy with finishing something a bit faster. Also, it will minimize the loss for everybody who forgot to set a long training skill (not me, I have long skills set ;) )
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Dentrius
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:47:00 -
[471]
Edited by: Dentrius on 23/06/2010 22:51:56
Edited by: Dentrius on 23/06/2010 22:50:28
Edited by: Dentrius on 23/06/2010 22:49:47
Edited by: Dentrius on 23/06/2010 22:48:51
Originally by: Benny0795
CCP you having many troubles tonight?
Problems with monkies in the server Sandwich aparently..
Server Monkies!
BTW I think I need to train my Eve forum to atleast 1 as adding a link was an epic fail for me roflcopters
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Aslan Inbarr
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:47:00 -
[472]
Edited by: Aslan Inbarr on 23/06/2010 22:47:03
Originally by: Johnny Gurkha
TQ is up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU4p5CcZvh4
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Barakkus
Spacelane Innovation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:47:00 -
[473]
Originally by: BBQfire
Originally by: Barakkus
Edited by: Barakkus on 23/06/2010 22:34:24
Typical day at CCP
muhaha
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-rQkf_-HkE
I wonder if they hold competitions like that sometimes lol...whoever wins the race gets to push the power button for the daily downtime or something to that effect...
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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baktul
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:48:00 -
[474]
Well... as a dev... I love CCP. Blizzard is ridiculously silent during any outage or extended downtime. And you never hear why or how. I don't really know of any service providing company that gives so much information about the backend. I do wish I could get in my ship but you guys rock.
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Shibuya Ku
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:49:00 -
[475]
Thanks for trying to keep us up to date :)
[and get some sleep, IT guys]
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Caldron Forge
Caldari
Quantum Forge Partners
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:49:00 -
[476]
I think the Data Center is in England, and after England advanced to the Knock out round of the world cup, all the Engineers and to go celebrate with a pint or two in the pub!
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sue denim
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:49:00 -
[477]
Edited by: sue denim on 23/06/2010 22:49:50
Originally by: Leisen
I can't believe all these people complaining about the delay and "shocking customer service". This was no small feat! I, for one, am psyched about the upgrade. This is going to be siiick.
what is it with everyone thinking this is some huge upgrade, it's not it's a move with some improvements, eve is gonna be just as laggy as ever dont get your hopes up :|
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suckitdonks
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:50:00 -
[478]
Originally by: baktul
Well... as a dev... I love CCP. Blizzard is ridiculously silent during any outage or extended downtime. And you never hear why or how. I don't really know of any service providing company that gives so much information about the backend. I do wish I could get in my ship but you guys rock.
so you would rather they waste time telling you all how it should be getting fixed instead of using said time to actually FIX the problem.. lol
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beadle bailey
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:50:00 -
[479]
My only wish is that they would do like last time and use the old servers as a temp. sisi and make empire all 0.0 again the battles were great esp when the devs came out in enigmas and and were battling us 1 frig vs 15 bs and hacs and we were still taking major damage
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Cynical Attitude
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:50:00 -
[480]
I'm afraid the "it's only a game" and "it's only 50c" arguments both fail.
It is "only" a game. Or, to put it another way, it's a leisure activity. Now, I may be weird in this respect, although I rather hope not, but I happen to value my leisure time quite highly. Rather more highly, in fact, than I value that time I spend getting paid. Not least because, if my paid job is disrupted, through no fault of my own, I still get paid. If my leisure time is disrupted, by contrast, I do not necessarily succeed in still having fun. In addition, if someone disrupts my work day, I get to fire them, or cancel their contract.
Of course, I could have planned other leisure activities for today. In fact, I did. However, given that CCP informed us that the server would be back online at 15:00, it was far from unreasonable for me to plan to spend the latter portion of today's meagre ration of leisure time playing Eve. It is also not unreasonable for me to be disappointed and angry at being unable to do so.
I could cancel my contract with CCP, but that would hurt me more than it would hurt them. The bottom line is the unusual economics of the MMOG industry (large numbers of players paying a very small fee for a very expensive and very valuable product) mean that while we are undeniably getting excellent value for money, we are also undeniably not getting adequate customer service.
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Indaan
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:51:00 -
[481]
Yes! Almost open again! :D
INFJ Forums: IndigoSensor |
Barakkus
Spacelane Innovation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:51:00 -
[482]
Originally by: baktul
Well... as a dev... I love CCP. Blizzard is ridiculously silent during any outage or extended downtime. And you never hear why or how. I don't really know of any service providing company that gives so much information about the backend. I do wish I could get in my ship but you guys rock.
Believe it or not SOE has come a long way in the past couple years themselves...they're pretty good about keeping the subscribers up to date for EverQuest II as well...actually they pushed out a whole expansion this last winter with absolutely no hitches...
CCP is doing a fine job, while the hilarity ensues everytime something major is done over there, they still do a great job dealing with it and their subscribers.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Bullet Shield
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:51:00 -
[483]
After Reading these posts, I never realized that everyone that plays eve except me is some major DEV or IT GURU for the Best Companies in the world, wow im honoUred To Play along such gifted player!
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joe long
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:51:00 -
[484]
how much longer.
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Toubo
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:51:00 -
[485]
Will it be up in 10 mins or some more additional downtime is coming ? so i know if i go to bed or not
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Jovian Dax
Caldari
The First Order
Consortium.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:52:00 -
[486]
Again i will post this ofc it was on lat patch day but lets try it again. for all of you crying about getting reimbursement don't worry it wont happen. if you dont have a long skill qued get over it learn from your mistakes and gtfu. however since it would be nice of ccp to consider that we all in some form or fashion are Paying customers they can do something for us like 99.9% of all mmo's do. hell ccp just seed the belts with faction spawns for like 1 hours that way we all can get something out of it and it boosts the global ingame economy. since that seems to be ccp's big prob with reimbursement. anyways just a thought
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Anndy
Caldari
Praetorian Black Guard
Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:52:00 -
[487]
omg the sky is falling the sky is falling
seriously this is nothing, it wasnt that long ago every expansion or server upgrade was a standard 24 hour downtime followed by a week of lag and horrible bugs
i for one want CCP to take all the time they need, i'd rather it done right then rushed
theres plenty you can do while waiting
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:53:00 -
[488]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Our original plan was to have the Web sites and Tranquility returned to service at 15:00 UTC, however, during the move we discovered network and SAN switch issues, which resulted in an extended service return delay. We have resolved those issues, and are working on returning Tranquility to service as quickly as possible.
The sanwich issue went something like this:
Hellmar: "Who the hell ate my sanswich?"
"Ok, everyone just put the server down on the floor. We aint movin until someone tells me who ate my sanswich."
Needless to say, no one has confessed yet :(.
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Amaron Ghant
Caldari
Tritanium Space Whales
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:53:00 -
[489]
Originally by: Bullet Shield
After Reading these posts, I never realized that everyone that plays eve except me is some major DEV or IT GURU for the Best Companies in the world, wow im honoUred To Play along such gifted player!
I would sup with the devil and forget to use a long spoon if it led to me spitting on the grave of nationalism.
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FiberEagle
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:53:00 -
[490]
Originally by: Johnny Gurkha
TQ is up!
U lieing piece of *** !
Don't give false hope
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Carmen Jazz
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:53:00 -
[491]
Originally by: Toubo
Will it be up in 10 mins or some more additional downtime is coming ? so i know if i go to bed or not
Same for me - i suspect i'll go to bed ^^
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NicZtego
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:53:00 -
[492]
Can we expect that our licenses will be rised by additional manteance time?
Can we expect that deadline time some transactions (f. ex. contracts) will be rised ?
NZT
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Kitten Coffinrocker
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:54:00 -
[493]
Originally by: Balkor Wolf
Id like to say LOL and STFU to all you idiots who are complaining about this, Everyone complains about lag and now CCP are working on fixing it your now complaining because you cant get a few hours of game time today? Why dont you take this chance to get off your fat asses and go outside?
On a happier note, Thanks for actually doing this CCP ^_^ Great work as always and thanks for keeping updates on delays instead of leaving it for people to guess when it will be back online.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. guys its just a game, chill out!! its not the end of the world that heaven forbid a game server is being fixed or transfered. ITS JUST A GAME!!
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Ky Vatta
Majority 12
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:54:00 -
[494]
Just come back tomorrow, when the hamsters wake up...
The odds of an EVE player having both a girlfriend and one that plays EVE...well let's just say it's up there with the universe deciding that existence is highly overrated and correcting the mistake |
Vexxas Tarokin
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:54:00 -
[495]
Originally by: sue denim
Edited by: sue denim on 23/06/2010 22:49:50
Originally by: Leisen
I can't believe all these people complaining about the delay and "shocking customer service". This was no small feat! I, for one, am psyched about the upgrade. This is going to be siiick.
what is it with everyone thinking this is some huge upgrade, it's not it's a move with some improvements, eve is gonna be just as laggy as ever dont get your hopes up :|
Well as you say, its no big thing so maybe you can explain to all of us what isnt changing in the infrastructure, switching fabric etc. Is the SAN different in anyway are they using new switches or the old ones, please enlighten us.
Cheers CCP. Take as long as you need to get it done right.
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Dentrius
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:54:00 -
[496]
Originally by: Barakkus
Believe it or not SOE has come a long way in the past couple years themselves...they're pretty good about keeping the subscribers up to date for EverQuest II as well...actually they pushed out a whole expansion this last winter with absolutely no hitches...
Are you sure? Sentinels fate had all the servers down for almost a whole day.
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K'uata Sayus
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:54:00 -
[497]
*sniff* All my extwactows aw tunned off, and my stowage facilities aw getting empty.
But the weasons for the upgwade make sense. I bought a personal fan for $6 to cool off my computa, 'cause it was wunning hot too. It keeps my legs cool too.
Goody, just a few minutes mowah!
EVERYONE SEEMS NORMAL UNTIL YOU GET TO KNOW THEM. |
Rickbass4001
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:55:00 -
[498]
What would be so hard about giving a blanket extention (x = amount of time servers are down) to all users who were on the affected servers? Seems too easy, as well as being completely fair.
What do I know, I only work on server air conditioning. . . .
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Patri Andari
Caldari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:56:00 -
[499]
Talk to your girlfriend/wife during this down time!
oh wai...
Patri
I'll Roshambo you for that Titan |
beautyispain
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:56:00 -
[500]
only 5 ccp minutes to go people!
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Bogota Lovejoy
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:56:00 -
[501]
Hi
my thread was locked and i was told (no beating phsically, just told) to post here
this was my post censored:
Dear CCP
Thank you for your attention
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Aslan Inbarr
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:57:00 -
[502]
Originally by: Cynical Attitude
I'm afraid the "it's only a game" and "it's only 50c" arguments both fail.
It is "only" a game. Or, to put it another way, it's a leisure activity. Now, I may be weird in this respect, although I rather hope not, but I happen to value my leisure time quite highly. Rather more highly, in fact, than I value that time I spend getting paid. Not least because, if my paid job is disrupted, through no fault of my own, I still get paid. If my leisure time is disrupted, by contrast, I do not necessarily succeed in still having fun. In addition, if someone disrupts my work day, I get to fire them, or cancel their contract.
Of course, I could have planned other leisure activities for today. In fact, I did. However, given that CCP informed us that the server would be back online at 15:00, it was far from unreasonable for me to plan to spend the latter portion of today's meagre ration of leisure time playing Eve. It is also not unreasonable for me to be disappointed and angry at being unable to do so.
I could cancel my contract with CCP, but that would hurt me more than it would hurt them. The bottom line is the unusual economics of the MMOG industry (large numbers of players paying a very small fee for a very expensive and very valuable product) mean that while we are undeniably getting excellent value for money, we are also undeniably not getting adequate customer service.
I'm sorry that you didn't get your hand held enough, that makes me sad. OK, not really. You should have known better and done a better job to living up to your pseudonym.
If I were to choose between a great game and adequate customer service, I'll choose the former every time. Given my history gaming, I think the two might actually be mutually exclusive.
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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:57:00 -
[503]
Just a quick update...
We'll be turning TQ on within the next 10 or so minutes. Then we'll make sure everything is working fine with her until opening her up to players.
I know a lot of you are frustrated right now, but please know that we truly appreciate your love of EVE and the passion that you feel for the game.
You will all be able to check your planets, go rat hunting, and, most importantly... mine veldspar... very soon.
You guys are all amazing, and I can't imagine myself working with anyone else but you EVE players :D
Fallout
Associate Community Manager
CCP Hf, EVE Online
Contact us |
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Osborn Fildegar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:57:00 -
[504]
Originally by: baktul
(...) I love CCP. Blizzard is ridiculously silent during any outage or extended downtime. (...)
Comparison subscribed... but with UBI servers.
At least CCP provides constant live feeds.
Ex. :
http://twitter.com/CCP_Fallout
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Zenst
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:57:00 -
[505]
If all else fails, and you cant find the A-Team - you blame the yellow cable
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Shuckstar
Gallente
Hauling hogs
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:57:00 -
[506]
Well in my opinion, if it takes 2 or 3 days to do it properly, so be it. I would much prefer that to logging in tonight and finding all my sp gone or assets missing ect.
Thinking about it, knowing CCP it will take 3 day's and it be even worse than before
You are going to fast! Wait five minutes and try again. |
sue denim
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:58:00 -
[507]
Edited by: sue denim on 23/06/2010 22:59:23
"Well as you say, its no big thing so maybe you can explain to all of us what isnt changing in the infrastructure, switching fabric etc. Is the SAN different in anyway are they using new switches or the old ones, please enlighten us."
Linkage
durt
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Barakkus
Spacelane Innovation
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:58:00 -
[508]
Originally by: Dentrius
Originally by: Barakkus
Believe it or not SOE has come a long way in the past couple years themselves...they're pretty good about keeping the subscribers up to date for EverQuest II as well...actually they pushed out a whole expansion this last winter with absolutely no hitches...
Are you sure? Sentinels fate had all the servers down for almost a whole day.
Yeah, I'm talking about Sentinel's Fate...it was flawless in it's rollout for the most part. There really wasn't a single issue, and it was completed pretty much in the timeframe they estimated. I've seen some really bad rollouts from them and dealt with the aftermath, I used to be one of their forum mods (StrollingWolf) :P
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Alex Tantra
Minmatar
Ministry of Destruction
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:58:00 -
[509]
Originally by: Cynical Attitude
...while we are undeniably getting excellent value for money, we are also undeniably not getting adequate customer service.
Nothing wrong with the value/customer service ratio of a 'leisure activity' that you can take part in for free, 23/7 and that is constantly improved for free. On the whole CCP do a brilliant job of informing us all about what's going on. You can't say that about many companies with nearly half a million customers.
Say you like going to the gym. Would you be ****ed off if they were open 23 hours a day, 7 days a week, let you pay for your membership by running a few extra treadmill miles each month and continuously provided new equipment and services for your efforts...?
Didn't think so
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:59:00 -
[510]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Just a quick update...
We'll be turning TQ on within the next 10 or so minutes. Then we'll make sure everything is working fine with her until opening her up to players.
I see what you did there.
Perv.
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
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PI Mike
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:59:00 -
[511]
Originally by: K'uata Sayus
*sniff* All my extwactows aw tunned off, and my stowage facilities aw getting empty.
But the weasons for the upgwade make sense. I bought a personal fan for $6 to cool off my computa, 'cause it was wunning hot too. It keeps my legs cool too.
Goody, just a few minutes mowah!
Are you a moron? 15h00 to 23h00 and you REALLY think that CCP is going to make THIS promised uptime.
Like a said ealier, CCP isn't worried, the suck ups are still sucking their ****s.
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Mang0o
Caldari
D00M.
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:59:00 -
[512]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Just a quick update...
We'll be turning TQ on within the next 10 or so minutes. Then we'll make sure everything is working fine with her until opening her up to players.
I know a lot of you are frustrated right now, but please know that we truly appreciate your love of EVE and the passion that you feel for the game.
You will all be able to check your planets, go rat hunting, and, most importantly... mine veldspar... very soon.
You guys are all amazing, and I can't imagine myself working with anyone else but you EVE players :D
wooohooooo im amazing, its true
I love you Mang0o, take a guess why -Eris |
James Vayne
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:59:00 -
[513]
Gee you people like to complain a lot. I wonder if you could move a server any quicker or any better than people more qualified to do so than you are?
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:59:00 -
[514]
well should be up in next 10 minutes
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Vanessa Oris
Ground Zero Industrial
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:59:00 -
[515]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Just a quick update...
We'll be turning TQ on within the next 10 or so minutes. Then we'll make sure everything is working fine with her until opening her up to players.
I know a lot of you are frustrated right now, but please know that we truly appreciate your love of EVE and the passion that you feel for the game.
You will all be able to check your planets, go rat hunting, and, most importantly... mine veldspar... very soon.
You guys are all amazing, and I can't imagine myself working with anyone else but you EVE players :D
Can't really imagine what y'all had to deal with that threw off the timetable so much. Because, unlike 90 percent of the people posting here, I'm not an IT genius, and I definitely couldn't do this better than you guys (unlike a few certain posters here that think they can). Thanks for the heads-up, Fallout.
"Should we fear that which hides within itself, yet acts like the schoolyard bully? I think not." - Vanessa, to an acquaintence |
thekiller2002us
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:00:00 -
[516]
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Just a quick update...
We'll be turning TQ on within the next 10 or so minutes. Then we'll make sure everything is working fine with her until opening her up to players.
I see what you did there.
Perv.
lol- hilarious
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Anndy
Caldari
Praetorian Black Guard
Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:00:00 -
[517]
Originally by: Jovian Dax
Again i will post this ofc it was on lat patch day but lets try it again. for all of you crying about getting reimbursement don't worry it wont happen. if you dont have a long skill qued get over it learn from your mistakes and gtfu. however since it would be nice of ccp to consider that we all in some form or fashion are Paying customers they can do something for us like 99.9% of all mmo's do. hell ccp just seed the belts with faction spawns for like 1 hours that way we all can get something out of it and it boosts the global ingame economy. since that seems to be ccp's big prob with reimbursement. anyways just a thought
i believe CCP has only reimbursed game time once and that was along time ago and followed a long string of server problems and extended downtimes, i dont know what all they have to go through to extend time by a day or so but i imagine its not an easy or fast process so the time would be better spent getting to work on whatever is next
do people really care that much about 50 cents? if so go dig change out of your couch or walk out to the street, you'll prolly find a lot more then 50 cents and hey you just killed some time and the server will be up that much faster
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Yakumo Smith
Gallente
No End To Infinity
Fleetingly Finite
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:00:00 -
[518]
Originally by: Amaron Ghant
Originally by: Bullet Shield
After Reading these posts, I never realized that everyone that plays eve except me is some major DEV or IT GURU for the Best Companies in the world, wow im honoUred To Play along such gifted player!
hehe have to admit that did make me smile.
I suppose this must be my sig. I'll do something cool with it eventually. |
Mighty Birddy
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:01:00 -
[519]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Just a quick update...
We'll be turning TQ on within the next 10 or so minutes. Then we'll make sure everything is working fine with her until opening her up to players.
I know a lot of you are frustrated right now, but please know that we truly appreciate your love of EVE and the passion that you feel for the game.
You will all be able to check your planets, go rat hunting, and, most importantly... mine veldspar... very soon.
You guys are all amazing, and I can't imagine myself working with anyone else but you EVE players :D
Its always nice to see some 411 Lovin' from CCP Fallout
We ♥ you too Fallout =P
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Aylana Emberlust
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:01:00 -
[520]
Originally by: Bogota Lovejoy
Hi
my thread was locked and i was told (no beating phsically, just told) to post here
this was my post censored:
Dear CCP
Thank you for your attention
dude STFU there trying there best and they are human too with family and freinds do you think they want to be working at this time at night (midnight) in london just for your whineing arse yes ive read your dear CCP bull**** i hope you get banned now
anyway great job CCP a little disappointed i ddin't get to update my chars skills sheet b4 it timed out but no biggy about 3 hours lost XD
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ObviousTroll Alt
Gallente
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:01:00 -
[521]
OMG the world has come to a screeching end! The EVE servers are not up when I want to play!
/wrists
/emo screaming in the background
/sound of shattering glass and the screaming of wounded animals
/gunshots
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Esharan
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:01:00 -
[522]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Just a quick update...
We'll be turning TQ on within the next 10 or so minutes. Then we'll make sure everything is working fine with her until opening her up to players.
I know a lot of you are frustrated right now, but please know that we truly appreciate your love of EVE and the passion that you feel for the game.
You will all be able to check your planets, go rat hunting, and, most importantly... mine veldspar... very soon.
You guys are all amazing, and I can't imagine myself working with anyone else but you EVE players :D
-Sarcasm noted.
Thank you!
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Sol Mahon
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:01:00 -
[523]
Forums looking good CCP, nice and fast :) |
James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:02:00 -
[524]
Originally by: Alex Tantra
Originally by: Cynical Attitude
...while we are undeniably getting excellent value for money, we are also undeniably not getting adequate customer service.
Nothing wrong with the value/customer service ratio of a 'leisure activity' that you can take part in for free, 23/7 and that is constantly improved for free. On the whole CCP do a brilliant job of informing us all about what's going on. You can't say that about many companies with nearly half a million customers.
Say you like going to the gym. Would you be ****ed off if they were open 23 hours a day, 7 days a week, let you pay for your membership by running a few extra treadmill miles each month and continuously provided new equipment and services for your efforts...?
Didn't think so
What are you smoking. We pay to play for this game. If this game is free, I'm sure the whine would decrease by about 90%.
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Amaron Ghant
Caldari
Tritanium Space Whales
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:02:00 -
[525]
Originally by: Kitten Coffinrocker
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. guys its just a game, chill out!! its not the end of the world that heaven forbid a game server is being fixed or transfered. ITS JUST A GAME!
demondust
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:02:00 -
[526]
Originally by: Gwaidon Kwai
The effort to Do This Stuff ALWAYS takes longer than planned. How about doubling the time you think it is going to take and then exceed everyones expectations by returning the service to your customers early?
I've been doing that for migration / deployment projects for over 20 years and it rarely catches me out wheras it seems to hit you guys every time.... and there is nothing like the sound of IT dudes/dudets and savvy gamers baying for blood and comp time and clogging up the forums with idle threats of going elsewhere when we know full well there is nowhere so awesome to go :)
..and picking the day of a crucial World Cup match to carry out this kind of upgrade must have been torture for the guys in London.
i like it lol , 1-0 england common !!! :)
i still came and tried logging in at half time though ,i guess after the next 45 mins i was a bit happier .....ccp just add the time onto the end of the month plz :D
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Aslan Inbarr
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:02:00 -
[527]
I predict that I'll be #23763 in line to log in.
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Avraham Avinu
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:02:00 -
[528]
Did someone misplace the hydrospanners?
Keep up the good work CCP; just keep at it.
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Wilson Klime
Caldari
Caldari Naval Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:02:00 -
[529]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
most importantly... mine veldspar... very soon.
But... but..... all the veldspar belongs to Chribba.
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Marikitus
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:03:00 -
[530]
OK not its 23:00 UTC and OHHHHHH surprise the server still down.......WTF CCP you have to plan all these and dont give stimated times and them pospone ....and pospone....and pospone, mmmmmm.....this remembers me something.......ohhhh yes the wallking stations, i 2012 and we dont going to see the wallking station......more lies?
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Indaan
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:03:00 -
[531]
Server lag FTW
INFJ Forums: IndigoSensor |
Benny0795
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:04:00 -
[532]
CCP fallout you sweet talker you :-)
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baktul
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:04:00 -
[533]
Originally by: suckitdonks
Originally by: baktul
Well... as a dev... I love CCP. Blizzard is ridiculously silent during any outage or extended downtime. And you never hear why or how. I don't really know of any service providing company that gives so much information about the backend. I do wish I could get in my ship but you guys rock.
so you would rather they waste time telling you all how it should be getting fixed instead of using said time to actually FIX the problem.. lol
I don't know if you've ever played WOW.. but when something goes wrong at Blizzard... who the hell knows when stuff will be back up. 1 hour? 3 days? When I first played I was on a demo... and servers were out for ONE WEEK. And the entire time... the only information was a bunch of forum kids guessing and not a peep from Blizzard. After it was restored... nothing... anything that happens within Blizzard is secret.
CCP however regularly comments on issues that irk players. Like the technical reasons for lag. And the details on what they hope to do to fix it. My own company has maybe 10 Billion USD moving through the system on a yearly basis. When something goes wrong... it is covered and hidden. Thats how most companies work. I have never seen feedback like CCP does anywhere.
I dunno though... I am in the US and our customer service generally blows. Perhaps in Europe there is a different standard. I do know my time in Japan showed me real customer service. If you bought anything at an electronics store and it broke in the warranty period.. you didn't have to worry about dealing with the manufacturer and having physical possession of your receipt. The store will replace it on the spot with no receipt.
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Camios
Minmatar
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:04:00 -
[534]
It seems that moving this stuff has turned much more difficult than you expected. Next time check the Fourth Principle of Thermodynamics (also known as the Murphy's Law).
Since I am not paid to wait I think I'm going to sleep and give the finger to my planet workers.
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Trade Skills
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:04:00 -
[535]
Originally by: Patri Andari
Talk to your girlfriend/wife during this down time!
oh wai...
I c wut u did thur
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Abhaya meshdatar
Minmatar
Caeli et Terra
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:04:00 -
[536]
Edited by: Abhaya meshdatar on 23/06/2010 23:05:04
Grats on the move. i am simply happy something didn't get scrambled in the move and we end up having to wait a week or more.
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JohnSco
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:05:00 -
[537]
1605 PDT and still waiting.
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CypherMSK
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:05:00 -
[538]
Originally by: Marikitus
OK not its 23:00 UTC and OHHHHHH surprise the server still down.......WTF CCP you have to plan all these and dont give stimated times and them pospone ....and pospone....and pospone, mmmmmm.....this remembers me something.......ohhhh yes the wallking stations, i 2012 and we dont going to see the wallking station......more lies?
You expected it to up on the second? xD
And geez, what are all you 12? I don't complain that much and I just bought an account xD
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Exie
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:05:00 -
[539]
Originally by: suckitdonks
Originally by: baktul
Well... as a dev... I love CCP. Blizzard is ridiculously silent during any outage or extended downtime. And you never hear why or how. I don't really know of any service providing company that gives so much information about the backend. I do wish I could get in my ship but you guys rock.
so you would rather they waste time telling you all how it should be getting fixed instead of using said time to actually FIX the problem.. lol
LMAO
Emoguy1 (Not in the quote, but plenty in this thread)
"OMFG, CCP sucks so bad, they never keep us up to date, unless it is hours after the fact, where is my time I lost in my life, OMG!!!!1!!!11!!!!1!!!"
NoEmoguy
"OMG why are they talking to us, shut up and fix it already... tell us after the fact."
Great example of not able to please everyone.
E...
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Hroya
Gallente
TerraNovae
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:07:00 -
[540]
Just got home from work, thought the server would be up and running but it isnt. Oh well, it's EvE, anything can and will happen.
Goodluck to CCP sorting everything out because that new server sure looks shweet. ( insert lots and lots of expansion for EvE )
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Aslan Inbarr
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:07:00 -
[541]
Originally by: ObviousTroll Alt
OMG the world has come to a screeching end! The EVE servers are not up when I want to play!
/wrists
/emo screaming in the background
/sound of shattering glass and the screaming of wounded animals
/gunshots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSZuWBJSRb0
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CYCLOPS12
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:07:00 -
[542]
Instead of demanding an additional day of play time during this extend downtime, I would say that a true EVE convert would demand 10 million ISK from CCP. Why this figure? Plex is selling for about 300 Million ISK so divide that by 30 days and each day played/lost is worth about 10 million isk. I think more players would be thrilled with the isk versus an extra day. Neither will happen but my idea is more reasonable.
Thoughts?
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BBQfire
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:07:00 -
[543]
will this become the longest thread ever and crash the servers?
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Dentrius
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:08:00 -
[544]
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Dentrius
Originally by: Barakkus
Believe it or not SOE has come a long way in the past couple years themselves...they're pretty good about keeping the subscribers up to date for EverQuest II as well...actually they pushed out a whole expansion this last winter with absolutely no hitches...
Are you sure? Sentinels fate had all the servers down for almost a whole day.
Yeah, I'm talking about Sentinel's Fate...it was flawless in it's rollout for the most part. There really wasn't a single issue, and it was completed pretty much in the timeframe they estimated. I've seen some really bad rollouts from them and dealt with the aftermath, I used to be one of their forum mods (StrollingWolf) :P
I take it back then... I guess i'm just used to SOE making a Gnollocks of every rollout that they do :)
To push a point home though, People rushed Artifact on an upgrade of the horizons servers, and they made the mistake of not having a good backup of the content and wiped the most part of the server. We played for almost a month with zero content as they replaced the remains of the monster spawn zones with player housing.
Moral of the story is that there is always someone worse. Personally, I experience a heck of a lot less downtime playing Eve compared to other games, and taking into consideration that Eve has 50k plus players live on just one server compared to maybe 3-5k on other MMORPG servers its really quite surprising.
Also, the dev blog on the server move was amazing, I have never been given so much detail. (BTW, I'd love to have access to that level of kit, but seeing as I'm an IT manager and IT Consultant for SMEs, I never really get to play with the good toys hehe). I am making notes on the blog for letting my own users know what we get up to down in IT.
Rather than them thinking this Help Desk
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James Vayne
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:08:00 -
[545]
Originally by: Aslan Inbarr
I predict that I'll be #23763 in line to log in.
Such optimism is almost inspiring. almost.
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Jenna Sol
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:08:00 -
[546]
Originally by: CYCLOPS12
Instead of demanding an additional day of play time during this extend downtime, I would say that a true EVE convert would demand 10 million ISK from CCP. Why this figure? Plex is selling for about 300 Million ISK so divide that by 30 days and each day played/lost is worth about 10 million isk. I think more players would be thrilled with the isk versus an extra day. Neither will happen but my idea is more reasonable.
Thoughts?
Wouldn't help the rookies much.
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:08:00 -
[547]
its gunna be delayed to 2400 or 0100 lets jus go with that
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Saadeera
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:08:00 -
[548]
Originally by: Anndy
omg the sky is falling the sky is falling
seriously this is nothing, it wasnt that long ago every expansion or server upgrade was a standard 24 hour downtime followed by a week of lag and horrible bugs
i for one want CCP to take all the time they need, i'd rather it done right then rushed
Agreed, so at least they could say 'gyus, servers will be down for 20 hours' when they need 3, instead of this.
Originally by: Anndy
theres plenty you can do while waiting
Again, if it was expected.
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Slave 9000
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:08:00 -
[549]
I love looking at the 'My Character' link and a ton of skills are missing... |
Frenzerelly
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:09:00 -
[550]
CCP, it is 23:00 UTC, so what gives, another extension?
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Kha'Alpha
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:09:00 -
[551]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Just a quick update...
We'll be turning TQ on within the next 10 or so minutes. Then we'll make sure everything is working fine with her until opening her up to players.
I know a lot of you are frustrated right now, but please know that we truly appreciate your love of EVE and the passion that you feel for the game.
You will all be able to check your planets, go rat hunting, and, most importantly... mine veldspar... very soon.
You guys are all amazing, and I can't imagine myself working with anyone else but you EVE players :D
Regardless of the "sweet" talk, there are many of us still awaiting a reply on game time reimbursement, im suprised people havent claimed loss of earning also,
I have personal sustained a 2 to 4b loss because of the loss of time today.
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Patri Andari
Caldari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:09:00 -
[552]
This is almost as long as the "Boost rockets" thread!
Patri
I'll Roshambo you for that Titan |
leper messia
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:09:00 -
[553]
Edited by: leper messia on 23/06/2010 23:09:06
23:09 still waiting
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr
GK inc.
Panda Team
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:10:00 -
[554]
Originally by: McWiggins
Is it up yet?
That's what she said.
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Tia Tzu
Caldari
G.E.A.R.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:11:00 -
[555]
Edited by: Tia Tzu on 23/06/2010 23:10:57
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: BBQfire
will this become the longest thread ever and crash the servers?
Doubtful :)
We're a little bit more delayed (by minutes, not hours) than my post indicated above. Sorry about that. Our operations team is working as fast as they can.
Tik tok tik tok, want to borrow my clock? No rhyme intended.
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Dandy Mandy
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:11:00 -
[556]
The sky is falling.
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Abhaya meshdatar
Minmatar
Caeli et Terra
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:11:00 -
[557]
Also i refreshed my page and got this....
The website you requested has been temporarily disabled. We have a number of Amarrians bringing in Minmatar labour workers to get it back up.
LMAO
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Vanessa Oris
Ground Zero Industrial
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:11:00 -
[558]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: BBQfire
will this become the longest thread ever and crash the servers?
Doubtful :)
We're a little bit more delayed (by minutes, not hours) than my post indicated above. Sorry about that. Our operations team is working as fast as they can.
Wouldn't be so bad if Singularity was actually up.
"Should we fear that which hides within itself, yet acts like the schoolyard bully? I think not." - Vanessa, to an acquaintence |
CypherMSK
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:11:00 -
[559]
I'm the shut and wait type anyway :P
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Ivas Tiffy
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:11:00 -
[560]
Originally by: McWiggins
Is it up yet?
*hands ccp some viagra* time will tell.
Go ahead and clap. Mediocrity deserves applause. Why don't we go find Pandemic Legion and clap around them! |
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Carmen Jazz
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:11:00 -
[561]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: BBQfire
will this become the longest thread ever and crash the servers?
Doubtful :)
We're a little bit more delayed (by minutes, not hours) than my post indicated above. Sorry about that. Our operations team is working as fast as they can.
Thank you. I'm sure you're doing your best.
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Dax Frey
Caldari
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:11:00 -
[562]
I actually took some time to have sexy time with my wife. she was quite pleased.
She asked:
"what happened to your spaceship game?"
I kindly replied... "oh nothing, i just figured id spend a bit of time with you if thats ok"
thanks CCP for getting my + 5 wifepoints!
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Forman Keeper
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:11:00 -
[563]
You think you got it bad? I adjusted my training to be don at 1600, so 1600-when it comes online, im not learning anything!!!! o.O I cried....
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AWhiteWind
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:11:00 -
[564]
I guess there is another delay past the 23:00 hour time indicator. Any idea of what the new ETA is?
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LiehTzu
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:11:00 -
[565]
I know it's only 10 minutes late at this point, but look guys... You have about 20,000 players all trying to sign in. At least update the estimates so I know if I should wait 5 minutes to get on the server or go see a movie.
I know I'm impatient, but yeah :p
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PI Mike
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:11:00 -
[566]
Originally by: leper messia
Edited by: leper messia on 23/06/2010 23:09:06
23:09 still waiting
CCP Fail Network Engineers haven't finished getting sucked off by the forum suck ups. Don't trust what Fallout says, how many of his recent uptime guesses have panned out?
Shlurp shlurp "Aaaaarhhhh... 10 more minutes" shlurp shlurp
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Jason1138
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:11:00 -
[567]
"we're a little more delayed"
lulz
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Alicina Goodbody
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:11:00 -
[568]
Great way to get some load testing on Sis!
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QT McWhiskers
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:12:00 -
[569]
Edited by: QT McWhiskers on 23/06/2010 23:12:11
Originally by: Esharan
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: BBQfire
will this become the longest thread ever and crash the servers?
Doubtful :)
We're a little bit more delayed (by minutes, not hours) than my post indicated above. Sorry about that. Our operations team is working as fast as they can.
I want a free ship.... or a allow us to do custom paint jobs!!
My name is Qt McWhiskers and I approve of this message.
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Aradia Gospel
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:12:00 -
[570]
hmmmm this is a didly of a pickle
Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong.
seems it still ain't up bunch o ccp slackers your all fired!
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creativesparks
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:12:00 -
[571]
Originally by: Esharan
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: BBQfire
will this become the longest thread ever and crash the servers?
Doubtful :)
We're a little bit more delayed (by minutes, not hours) than my post indicated above. Sorry about that. Our operations team is working as fast as they can.
I want a free ship.... or a allow us to do custom paint jobs!!
mm custom paint jobs. second
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Smartus Maximus
Safe Exploration Ltd.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:12:00 -
[572]
10 mil bet for the server being up (accepting customer connections) within 20 minutes. Any takers?
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nouki
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:12:00 -
[573]
soo any chances my pos dont run out of fuel during the dt :D ?
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Ath'daru
Minmatar
Jazz Associates
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:13:00 -
[574]
Fallout, tell the tech's they need to plug in the power chord.
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androvven666
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:13:00 -
[575]
its not back up i sad please fix it ccp
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akuera
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:13:00 -
[576]
Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server Server
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m3talc0re X
Caldari
SandStorm.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:13:00 -
[577]
Originally by: CYCLOPS12
Instead of demanding an additional day of play time during this extend downtime, I would say that a true EVE convert would demand 10 million ISK from CCP. Why this figure? Plex is selling for about 300 Million ISK so divide that by 30 days and each day played/lost is worth about 10 million isk. I think more players would be thrilled with the isk versus an extra day. Neither will happen but my idea is more reasonable.
Thoughts?
Now, how about you factor in average isk made in one day of missioning to add to that as well as LP.
Thoughts? :P
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BearUkraine
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:13:00 -
[578]
Edited by: BearUkraine on 23/06/2010 23:14:23
Originally by: baktul
CCP however regularly comments on issues that irk players. Like the technical reasons for lag. And the details on what they hope to do to fix it. My own company has maybe 10 Billion USD moving through the system on a yearly basis. When something goes wrong... it is covered and hidden. Thats how most companies work. I have never seen feedback like CCP does anywhere.
This case is special. Usually it takes more than now to get any info from CCP and usually not in enough quantity. Thanks to CCP Fallout now we get info operatively.
Originally by: baktul
I dunno though... I am in the US and our customer service generally blows. Perhaps in Europe there is a different standard. I do know my time in Japan showed me real customer service. If you bought anything at an electronics store and it broke in the warranty period.. you didn't have to worry about dealing with the manufacturer and having physical possession of your receipt. The store will replace it on the spot with no receipt.
You are lucky. Come to CIS - you will see the real standard of customer service :)
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:13:00 -
[579]
custom paint jobs would be a good idea, the special paint could be PI made
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CYCLOPS12
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:13:00 -
[580]
Originally by: Jenna Sol
Originally by: CYCLOPS12
Instead of demanding an additional day of play time during this extend downtime, I would say that a true EVE convert would demand 10 million ISK from CCP. Why this figure? Plex is selling for about 300 Million ISK so divide that by 30 days and each day played/lost is worth about 10 million isk. I think more players would be thrilled with the isk versus an extra day. Neither will happen but my idea is more reasonable.
Thoughts?
Wouldn't help the rookies much.
I disagree! I think noobs would love an extra 10 million, heck that would buy a bunch of faction ammo for vets.
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Havoc123
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:13:00 -
[581]
lol i think its funny that some people take the time to sit there and complain, like its gonna make CCP get it done any faster, some people are truly amazing with there actions thus showing there intelligence, congratulations to you **** tards and to the people who realize what it takes to a move like this are the people who should receive free game time not the little whiner babies! have a good time waiting while i'll go use this time to go do "something else"!!!
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Jita Jenn
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:13:00 -
[582]
Server's back up! \o/
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Ms Kat
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:13:00 -
[583]
just adding to the quickly growing thread... rawr nomnomnomnom yada yada yada rabble yaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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shushan DaVill
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:14:00 -
[584]
just adding my vote to the positives. keep up the good work ccp, and remember that for every 12 year old child complaining theres some of us who appreciate ur job, even if we dont allways bother saying so.
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Derelicht
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:14:00 -
[585]
Originally by: Jita Jenn
Server's back up! \o/
Is it?
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Jenna Sol
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:14:00 -
[586]
So is Fallout actually part of the IT team helping with the move or just a public relations guy phoning to the IT people every ten minutes for an update?
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Patri Andari
Caldari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:14:00 -
[587]
Originally by: Grarr Dexx
Originally by: McWiggins
Is it up yet?
That's what she said.
lol
Patri
I'll Roshambo you for that Titan |
Spiro Tass
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:14:00 -
[588]
Very dissapointed
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Chris Fierce
Caldari
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:14:00 -
[589]
Computer says no!
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Dalilus
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:15:00 -
[590]
Living in a Third World Country really puts the service CCP provides in perspective.....
- Local ISP tries its best, or so they say, to provide a non interrupted service. Fail at least once a day, usually at night when I can play EVE. Main reason I try to avoid wormholes.
- Local power company tries its best, or so they say, to provide a non interrupted service. Fail at least once a week. Main reason not to play too much EVE on a Sunday afternoon.
- CCP tries its best, or so they say, to provide a non interrupted service. After playing EVE for almost 2 years I can say maybe once a month, if that, something unexpected happens to EVE. That's a not a fail.
I can gripe about some things in EVE (nerfing missions, speed nerf) or jump up and down in joyous abandon that Minmatar ships and weapons are no longer third tier after latest buffs. But Eve downtime is not something to get upset about. Keep it up CCP!
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leper messia
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:15:00 -
[591]
Originally by: creativesparks
Originally by: Esharan
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: BBQfire
will this become the longest thread ever and crash the servers?
Doubtful :)
We're a little bit more delayed (by minutes, not hours) than my post indicated above. Sorry about that. Our operations team is working as fast as they can.
I want a free ship.... or a allow us to do custom paint jobs!!
Custom paint jobs FTW..... wait ppl would cruise around in stupid paintjobs ie. pink and day-glo orange Drake....wait.....Custom paintjobs FTW!!!!!
mm custom paint jobs. second
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ProContractor
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:15:00 -
[592]
The Tranquility cluster will be down for maintenance on Wednesday, June 23rd 2010 from 0900 to 2300 UTC.
and the time now is ???????
Get it sorted nuubs
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joshua boston
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:15:00 -
[593]
CUSTOM PAINT JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!
CUSTOM PAINT JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!
CUSTOM PAINT JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Steakkbone
Capital Construction Research
Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:15:00 -
[594]
Originally by: Jita Jenn
Server's back up! \o/
you's trollin'
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Xen Solarus
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:16:00 -
[595]
Hey found this thread and thought i'd throw in my thoughts. Seems to be alot of that happening here.
I wasn't even aware that there would be extended downtime, but sure do find it amusing to read everyone whining about it. Reminds me of the time i used to play wow. Seriously, isnt eve supposed to have the more intelligent players? I especcially love the ones demanding repayment, and ones threatening to stop playing. Sure, like hell!
I think the last ccp post summed it up quite nicely. All these posts simply prove how awesome eve truely is. I can almost imagine all those addicted noobs out there pulling their hair out because they can't get their fix. Classic!
Keep up the great work CCP, and long-live EVE!
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Extinctio Sanctitas
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:16:00 -
[596]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
I can't imagine myself working with anyone else but you EVE players :D
Rub it in a little more that you get to work with video games all day...
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Aurania
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:16:00 -
[597]
Grats to CCP for getting everything accomplished in such a short time span. Keep up the good work! |
AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:16:00 -
[598]
Edited by: AterraX on 23/06/2010 23:16:29
Amazing amout of whine (cleary from people that don't work in the IT-industry) and an amazingly amout of low I.Q people that didn't plan for delays in either their training or POS fuel....mind boggling.
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Fact of EVE forums: They will always come an anounomys alt-toon and question someones character... |
TheSlaveMaster
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:16:00 -
[599]
+1 day gametime please?
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Tumek
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:16:00 -
[600]
Originally by: joshua boston
CUSTOM PAINT JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!
CUSTOM PAINT JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!
CUSTOM PAINT JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats all we need, goons with PINK ships
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Battal Gazi2
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:16:00 -
[601]
Originally by: Jita Jenn
Server's back up! \o/
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Noskill McCheese
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:17:00 -
[602]
Welp. Eve not up but the api is and evemon is telling me I have nothing training even though I added a (long) skill to my queue before the downtime. Wtf am I paying for. There better not be any more blackscreening ****lag of death anymore whenever 200 people get together and try to pew.
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Alex Tantra
Minmatar
Ministry of Destruction
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:17:00 -
[603]
Originally by: James Tritanius
Originally by: Alex Tantra
Originally by: Cynical Attitude
...while we are undeniably getting excellent value for money, we are also undeniably not getting adequate customer service.
Nothing wrong with the value/customer service ratio of a 'leisure activity' that you can take part in for free, 23/7 and that is constantly improved for free. On the whole CCP do a brilliant job of informing us all about what's going on. You can't say that about many companies with nearly half a million customers.
Say you like going to the gym. Would you be ****ed off if they were open 23 hours a day, 7 days a week, let you pay for your membership by running a few extra treadmill miles each month and continuously provided new equipment and services for your efforts...?
Didn't think so
What are you smoking. We pay to play for this game. If this game is free, I'm sure the whine would decrease by about 90%.
No, you pay to play this game. For many players, EVE pays for itself. You're clearly doing it wrong.
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LiehTzu
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:17:00 -
[604]
Originally by: Jita Jenn
Server's back up! \o/
Kind of funny. 5/10
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guska Cryotank
Gallente
Void Angels
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:19:00 -
[605]
Originally by: Tumek
Originally by: joshua boston
CUSTOM PAINT JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!
CUSTOM PAINT JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!
CUSTOM PAINT JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats all we need, goons with PINK ships
Or goons with giant ****s painted on their ships...come on, we've all seen the can art...
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destur
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:19:00 -
[606]
here time 02.18 im wait wait
please speed /o mamma mia my englişh bad ,sorry /
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Ludacrys
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:19:00 -
[607]
in b4 all of the PI production since the servers went down is gone, also skills and other kinds of production
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Azura Noctis
Amarr
SWARTA
Mostly Clueless
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:19:00 -
[608]
I wouldn't care if it continued to be down if I knew for sure the skill I put up lasted through this. Well that's what I get for forgetting there was maintenance today.
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Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:19:00 -
[609]
Edited by: Iamien on 23/06/2010 23:21:43
Originally by: AterraX
Edited by: AterraX on 23/06/2010 23:16:29
Amazing amout of whine (cleary from people that don't work in the IT-industry) and an amazingly amout of low I.Q people that didn't plan for delays in either their training or POS fuel....mind boggling.
It doesn't matter if we work in the IT industry or not. It's pretty simple. Consumers expect accurate predictions on service outtages, simple as that. All this, well you don't know IT, is utter bull****. Because if the IT people knew IT, they wouldn't give a rough time to begin with. You can't expect most of your consumers to be highly knowledgeable of IT and understand, you have to perform to your own expectations because your customers trust that you are able to do so.
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Sator Nyatt
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:19:00 -
[610]
Any new ETA on the server uptime?
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:19:00 -
[611]
no sorry not quite there yet
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Spc One
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:20:00 -
[612]
hmm....
Spc One checks UTC Time, it's 23:20, still TQ server is not up.
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captain curry
Minmatar
Empyrean Warriors
Lux Caelestia
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:20:00 -
[613]
To be honest, im not shocked its still down.. i sorta expected it after playing it for awhile |
BBQfire
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:20:00 -
[614]
/etc/init.d/eve-serverd start
;)
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WNxWolfy
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:20:00 -
[615]
If you're not going to make a deadline, don't set it. Easy as that.
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Galandrian Lord
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:20:00 -
[616]
Custom paint job for my new Mega Navy Issue. Thing looks terrible with that paint job.
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Jullian Valdexron
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:20:00 -
[617]
HEY GUYS SERVER IS BACK UP!
yipyy! hurray!
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m3talc0re X
Caldari
SandStorm.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:20:00 -
[618]
Originally by: Havoc123
lol i think its funny that some people take the time to sit there and complain, like its gonna make CCP get it done any faster, some people are truly amazing with there actions thus showing there intelligence, congratulations to you **** tards and to the people who realize what it takes to a move like this are the people who should receive free game time not the little whiner babies! have a good time waiting while i'll go use this time to go do "something else"!!!
Technically, you're doing the same thing, just a different topic, **** tard.
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joshua boston
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:20:00 -
[619]
stupid eve radio had a song with the lady that says "connecting"..I got way too excited but then realized it wasn't my game
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Alkerbas
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:21:00 -
[620]
4:20 and no eve.. guess I'll just get stoned
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Blackberry Bold
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:21:00 -
[621]
They should have account email options notifying when extended server shutdowns are delayed. Just a thought. : )
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Mark Sawyer
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:21:00 -
[622]
Originally by: Forman Keeper
You think you got it bad? I adjusted my training to be don at 1600, so 1600-when it comes online, im not learning anything!!!! o.O I cried....
Yes, you did learn something! =)
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John Queen
Gallente
Space Morons
0 M E G A
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:21:00 -
[623]
Next time give a timeline no ETA as it makes CCP very unprofessional.
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MagicalLarry
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:21:00 -
[624]
Good job CCP for updating servers. I'm sure once all said and done it will be worth the wait.
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Mexna
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:21:00 -
[625]
lol @ all the whiners..... seriously give them a break do you even know what they are doing and what recources they need to keep you all happy.... sigh.
Keep up the good work ccp.
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Camios
Minmatar
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:22:00 -
[626]
Edited by: Camios on 23/06/2010 23:24:36
Don't hurry up, i'm definitely going to sleep and I would like you not to mess it up.
BTW has the newly discovered network and SAN switch issue something to do with the lag?
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Y Berion
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:22:00 -
[627]
Zzzzz.. huh? Still down? Oh well. Zzzzz...
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Yazid
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:22:00 -
[628]
Serious CCP, keep up the good work
Dont give a **** about those stupid nerd players that dont know the magnitude of what your doing today
I dont care if you take 2 days to deliver this, just please dont do some ****ty hotfixes and release it before planned.
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Rickbass4001
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:22:00 -
[629]
Originally by: Jullian Valdexron
HEY GUYS SERVER IS BACK UP!
yipyy! hurray!
Um, yeah. . . .
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BearUkraine
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:22:00 -
[630]
CCP Fallout
How is "our" deal?
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WarpOut All
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:22:00 -
[631]
"The Tranquility cluster will be down for maintenance on Wednesday, June 23rd 2010 from 0900 to 2300 UTC."
And TQ still down... gezzzzz, blame CCP!!!
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Ix Forres
Caldari
Vanguard Frontiers
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:22:00 -
[632]
Originally by: BBQfire
/etc/init.d/eve-serverd start
;)
I wish...
*Obligatory "EVE would be up by now if it were running on Linux" comment*
(It probably would, let's face it...)
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Ix Forres
EVE Application Developer
EVE Metrics | accVIEW | I Tweet |
Lord Thingol
Polish Mercenaries S.A.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:23:00 -
[633]
Hmmm, its normal that unexpected problems can appear, but please do keep the time schedule updated, because now is 1:22 passed till the Tranquility is online (according to forum).
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Toxic Paradox
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:23:00 -
[634]
When they estimated TQ online by 2300 they meant the year not the hour..
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Cpt after
Minmatar
The Illuminati Reborn
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:23:00 -
[635]
Originally by: PI Mike
Originally by: shushan DaVill
just adding my vote to the positives. keep up the good work ccp, and remember that for every 12 year old child complaining theres some of us who appreciate ur job, even if we dont allways bother saying so.
shlurp shlurp shlurp
please suck it more
FFS CCP anal ur reputation less please
Keep your tears coming mike they are cheering me up
Bitter much?
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Battal Gazi
Caldari
Bregan Dearthe
AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:23:00 -
[636]
I'm having fun even if the servers are down :).
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JuGGeR
Caldari
Phantom Squad
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:23:00 -
[637]
i guess ccp will fix posses and ****e , euro dude that cant wait any longer ..
ccp can look 4word to fix that then o/
dont set a deadline you cant hold , or keep it down 1 day and get it up in 12, and peeps are happy.
Phantomsquad |
Cynical Attitude
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:23:00 -
[638]
Originally by: Alex Tantra
Say you like going to the gym. Would you be ****ed off if they were open 23 hours a day, 7 days a week, let you pay for your membership by running a few extra treadmill miles each month and continuously provided new equipment and services for your efforts...?
Didn't think so
If the gym told me it was going to be closed Sunday morning, so I decided to go Sunday afternoon instead, only to find it was still closed, I'd be ****ed off, and I'd have every right to be ****ed off.
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AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:23:00 -
[639]
Originally by: Iamien
Originally by: AterraX
Edited by: AterraX on 23/06/2010 23:16:29
Amazing amout of whine (cleary from people that don't work in the IT-industry) and an amazingly amout of low I.Q people that didn't plan for delays in either their training or POS fuel....mind boggling.
It doesn't matter if we work in the IT industry or not. It's pretty simple. Consumers expect accurate predictions on service outtages, simple as that. All this, well you don't know IT, is utter bull****. Because if the IT people knew IT, they wouldn't give a rough time to begin with. You can expect most of your consumers to be highly knowledgeable of IT an understand, you have to perform to your own expectations.
*******s, with a system this big you would expect the schedule to slide (if you know anything about large clusters), but I would like to borrow your crystal ball.
But keep on demontrating you subpar knowlegde about IT
(We are not talking about updating Win7 here)
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Scrotilla
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:24:00 -
[640]
...need....to....mine.....
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Aylana Emberlust
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:24:00 -
[641]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: BBQfire
will this become the longest thread ever and crash the servers?
Doubtful :)
We're a little bit more delayed (by minutes, not hours) than my post indicated above. Sorry about that. Our operations team is working as fast as they can.
ahhhh you suck .....no you suck mr sweet talking CCP employer person
i wanna Have your baby's
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Arsonata
Gallente
De Re Metallica
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:24:00 -
[642]
Why is the status still coming up as unknown if the server is up? I am in australia is that why?
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Ragewaar
The BEEZ Collective
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:24:00 -
[643]
Originally by: Iamien
Edited by: Iamien on 23/06/2010 23:20:53
Originally by: AterraX
Edited by: AterraX on 23/06/2010 23:16:29
Amazing amout of whine (cleary from people that don't work in the IT-industry) and an amazingly amout of low I.Q people that didn't plan for delays in either their training or POS fuel....mind boggling.
It doesn't matter if we work in the IT industry or not. It's pretty simple. Consumers expect accurate predictions on service outtages, simple as that. All this, well you don't know IT, is utter bull****. Because if the IT people knew IT, they wouldn't give a rough time to begin with. You can't expect most of your consumers to be highly knowledgeable of IT and understand, you have to perform to your own expectations.
Ah but you see, I work in IT, and their original estimation was in fact correct. All us IT folk follow the "Windows Time" estimate, meaining we say the operation will complete in 8 hours, but that number fluctuates between 5 mins and 12 days completely randomly, as a windows operation does
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Masala Chai
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:24:00 -
[644]
Too much posting.
How can I do a barrel roll again? Sorry, thank you!
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Bilboz
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:24:00 -
[645]
This downtime makes me somewhat home sick for an old mmorpg i used to play and shall not be named where things like 15+ hours of extra downtime was a weekly event.
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Varesk
Gallente
Maelstrom Crew
Paradigm Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:24:00 -
[646]
sh!t happens.
most of you sould like crack heads. get out of the basement and do something else.
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CypherMSK
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:25:00 -
[647]
Things to do while waiting.
Read this topic, it's fun! :D
Really passes the time. \o/
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Damngrass
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:25:00 -
[648]
Originally by: Masala Chai
Too much posting.
How can I do a barrel roll again? Sorry, thank you!
hit "R" or "Z" twice
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Lehmanbanker
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:25:00 -
[649]
if we wont ve such massive lags, like after the patch ... i can wait even a whole week ... or longer
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Stil Harkonnen
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:25:00 -
[650]
Originally by: Mexna
lol @ all the whiners..... seriously give them a break do you even know what they are doing and what recources they need to keep you all happy.... sigh.
Keep up the good work ccp.
I dont think anybody would care that it takes so long if CCP would just give us an ACCURATE time of when we can play again. Instead of pushing it back...4 times. And then still not even meeting the four-times-pushed-back deadline.
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CCP Adida
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:25:00 -
[651]
cleared up additional trolling
Adida
Community Rep
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Spinalonga
Caldari
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:25:00 -
[652]
CCP Good job, pew pew StevieSG ftw
Please re-size your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Kalseth
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:25:00 -
[653]
Planets are MELTING ....... OCD is killing me
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Tia Tzu
Caldari
G.E.A.R.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:26:00 -
[654]
TBQF This is a complete JOKE.
OK so 23:00 didnt happen......then we are told it will be up in 10mins or so.....but wont accept connections.
It is now 23:24, no tq up, no update no nothing, just 14hours + of waiting for something we have paid for.....
Being kept up to date and not being given false deadline makes alot of different, are we sure its an upgrade of server we need and not something else? **cough**
Just a thought.
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Condamor
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:26:00 -
[655]
The one day I have uber fast internet Eve doesnt work!!!! But what time is it UTC?
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demobey
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:26:00 -
[656]
Don't know if this is practical with all the international people, but perhaps customers opting in for "text alerts" when the server is restored during downtime would be a good idea? Or email alerts even. Most people can check email on their phones now anyway. It could be an option to toggle in your preferences.
Just a random thought.
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JBruce
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:26:00 -
[657]
I'm amazed that CCP can do something like this in the span of a day. I mean, seriously they are moving 66 server boxes as well as all of the equipment required to run them. A few extra hours for hicups along the way are to be expected. As for the internal network speed increase mentioned in the dev-blog, I am very excited to see this in action.
Lets all hope the hamsters like their new cages.
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Percy Mekon
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:26:00 -
[658]
Bored and tired now.
Bedtime and check in the morning.
nighty night all.
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Ultim8Evil
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:26:00 -
[659]
Originally by: Cynical Attitude
Originally by: Alex Tantra
Say you like going to the gym. Would you be ****ed off if they were open 23 hours a day, 7 days a week, let you pay for your membership by running a few extra treadmill miles each month and continuously provided new equipment and services for your efforts...?
Didn't think so
If the gym told me it was going to be closed Sunday morning, so I decided to go Sunday afternoon instead, only to find it was still closed, I'd be ****ed off, and I'd have every right to be ****ed off.
You do realise comparing internets spaceships to RL is automatic fail, rite?
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Ryel Theon
Aperture Ventures
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:27:00 -
[660]
Originally by: Iamien
Edited by: Iamien on 23/06/2010 23:21:43
It doesn't matter if we work in the IT industry or not. It's pretty simple. Consumers expect accurate predictions on service outtages, simple as that. All this, well you don't know IT, is utter bull****. Because if the IT people knew IT, they wouldn't give a rough time to begin with. You can't expect most of your consumers to be highly knowledgeable of IT and understand, you have to perform to your own expectations because your customers trust that you are able to do so.
So you've never had a power outage from your electric company where the power came on after they said it would? Or your telephone provider? Or your auto mechanic? And the list goes on and on.
GTF over yourself. You're an idiot.
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Anthrax Beta
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:27:00 -
[661]
Best thread evar. Some hilarious whine posts here. Pure gold to read! (There's nothing like some quality night comedy!)
Keep up the good work CCP and don't mind these cute little whiners! Much bro loves from me.
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PI Mike
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:27:00 -
[662]
Originally by: Cpt after
Originally by: PI Mike
Originally by: shushan DaVill
just adding my vote to the positives. keep up the good work ccp, and remember that for every 12 year old child complaining theres some of us who appreciate ur job, even if we dont allways bother saying so.
shlurp shlurp shlurp
please suck it more
FFS CCP anal ur reputation less please
Keep your tears coming mike they are cheering me up
Bitter much?
Talk it up mate, your still sitting in this very same forum waiting, just like me. Not so fun is it? At least your not sucking CCP dong.
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baktul
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:27:00 -
[663]
Well... EveMon now says... "Server Offline" instead of something about an error connecting to the server. Which at least says there is some computer across the Atlantic ocean from me that is talking ;)
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Moridar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:27:00 -
[664]
WTT Singularity for Tranquility PST
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Esharan
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:27:00 -
[665]
Originally by: CCP Adida
cleared up additional trolling
Glad your wasting your time on that instead of getting servers up ;)
LOOOOVEEEE YOOOUUU!!
CUSTOM PAINT/STICKER JOBS NOW!
Listen I am not saying give us the rainbow - select 10 dark colors,
dark green, dark red, dark orange, etc. etc. Select 10 basic patterns Camo, Striping, etc. Select parts of each ship that can be modified (ie. center mass of megathron) allow us to customize those area's using a predefined toolkit of options!
EASY AND YOU WILL MAKE ME HAPPY!
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Nicara
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:27:00 -
[666]
keep up the posts i am LMAo
peopel have the right to complain when promised something for a fee, that is just general business sense..this is why it guys make bad sales reps or customer service reps =) NOOB business 101, never set expectations that you can not meet, always pad it ...greatly you look like the here then =)
The BESt part is the it guys complaining about whiners and whining about them, So if you hate whiners. do you hate yourself for whining about the whining?/ HEHEH
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Tiara Xiuhcoatl
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:27:00 -
[667]
Here's my 2 cents on all this
Giving a realistic deadline would have worked much better. For future upgrades/patches, really need to post a time thats twice what you plan so there isnt updates every hr that it will be up in an hour. ISK to make up for lost time would be cool but I would rather the game be stable when it comes up than crashing every 10 mins. CCP has done a great job of staying on top of issues, just look at how Dominion went for the first couple weeks after patch versus Tyrannis (though Tyrannis was a joke, PI so far to me was a waste of isk and time to train, good idea, but seriously materials and processing set up all wrong).
Listening tot he ones that complain and expect something back for lost time, YOUR IDIOTS. What they are doing isnt easy or quick. PLUS obviously most of you that complain dont leave highsec and dont do big fleet battles THIS UPGRADE IF IT DOES HALF OF WHAT THEY EXPECT WILL BE A WELCOME CHANGE to help with lag for those of us that actually play eve for what it is and deal with the lag constantly.
CCP though the massive delay is a bit frustrating as I need my fix, cant quit smoking and be cut off from eve in the same week, YOUR DOING AN AWESOME JOB AND THE FACT OF YOU ARE GOING THIS FAR TO MAKE THE GAME BETTER SAYS ALOT. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!
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Budsin Adar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:27:00 -
[668]
Okay its past the 1500 and 2300 hrs and EVE is not back on line are they going to credit us with loss time or what the heck is going on to move it and i still don't know whats wrong or if there was a problem?? Since it was not explained well enough. Its like it should have been working on the main server by now. not the SISI.I am fustrated with this Ballonii. Give me a straight answer CCP to this thanks Peace to all Pilots in EVE fly safe 0/
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Thomasale
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:27:00 -
[669]
I REALLY have to get another life...REALLY
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Gallic IronBorne
Caldari
Paradoxical Anomoly
Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:27:00 -
[670]
I think CCP is not moving anything .....except beer down there throats ...they are having a office keg party....
War is a mythical happening...
Where else in humam experience,
except in the throes of ardor... do we find ourselves transported to a mythical condition and the gods most real?
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Beani Kliadi
Caldari
Arekin Secure Holdings
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:28:00 -
[671]
Go CCP, push those minmatar slaves harder.
ETA = Soon(TM)
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Valea Rahl
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:28:00 -
[672]
Originally by: Tia Tzu
TBQF This is a complete JOKE.
OK so 23:00 didnt happen......then we are told it will be up in 10mins or so.....but wont accept connections.
It is now 23:24, no tq up, no update no nothing, just 14hours + of waiting for something we have paid for.....
Being kept up to date and not being given false deadline makes alot of different, are we sure its an upgrade of server we need and not something else? **cough**
WHAAAAAAA, I'm a child.
Yes you are....
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Lockear
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:28:00 -
[673]
Originally by: demobey
Don't know if this is practical with all the international people, but perhaps customers opting in for "text alerts" when the server is restored during downtime would be a good idea? Or email alerts even. Most people can check email on their phones now anyway. It could be an option to toggle in your preferences.
Just a random thought.
^ THIS
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kurtz abraham
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:28:00 -
[674]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_management
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Jovian Dax
Caldari
The First Order
Consortium.
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:28:00 -
[675]
i actually now think that ccp runs the government in Iceland, seeing as they have collapsed just like ccp's never ending fail on when they will have servers up. as someone who builds houses for a living i can guarantee that my job is 10000000k times harder then plugging in a machine, before any of you comment with "its a little more complex then that" just save it. it really comes down to ccp not hiring people that can time management and complete task's on a timely fashion. in my daily job i have to make estimates of completion time and yes sometimes they do run over. with that said i have to make ammends to my customers but i gladly do it. in reality though my contracts and estimations are very accurate, why you might ask its very simple i know what im doing and i hire people that do as well. so ccp start treating us like we matter to you, and hire people that can do the job.
<a href="https://eve-search.com/externalLink.asp?l=http%3A%2F%2Fs938%2Ephotobucket%2Ecom%2Falbums%2Fad228%2Fthomasmlinek%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3Dsig1copy1%2Egif" target="_blank"><img src="http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad228/thomasmlinek/sig1copy1.gif" border |
Spiro Tass
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:28:00 -
[676]
How come some people are up and running and others, including me, arn't
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Cinori Aluben
Minmatar
Gladiators of Rage
Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:28:00 -
[677]
Edited by: Cinori Aluben on 23/06/2010 23:29:36
Edited by: Cinori Aluben on 23/06/2010 23:28:34
This is CCP_Fallout & CCP_Yokai:
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Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:29:00 -
[678]
Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: Iamien
Originally by: AterraX
Edited by: AterraX on 23/06/2010 23:16:29
Amazing amout of whine (cleary from people that don't work in the IT-industry) and an amazingly amout of low I.Q people that didn't plan for delays in either their training or POS fuel....mind boggling.
It doesn't matter if we work in the IT industry or not. It's pretty simple. Consumers expect accurate predictions on service outtages, simple as that. All this, well you don't know IT, is utter bull****. Because if the IT people knew IT, they wouldn't give a rough time to begin with. You can expect most of your consumers to be highly knowledgeable of IT an understand, you have to perform to your own expectations.
*******s, with a system this big you would expect the schedule to slide (if you know anything about large clusters), but I would like to borrow your crystal ball.
But keep on demontrating you subpar knowlegde about IT
(We are not talking about updating Win7 here)
IT doesn't matter that it is related to IT. When you buy a train ticket, you expect the train to be on time. Of course there are sometimes delays and unexpected hick-ups but are all the passengers expected to have a high knowledge of trains and not mind? Of course not. It does not matter what field you work in, if you are a professional you should live up to your own expectations and not blame the complexity of your work, it just makes you sound incompetent.
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Fuel Technician
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:29:00 -
[679]
Hmmm... time to read this thread and clear "additional trolling" but not time yo let us know what's going on!
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LinChow
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:29:00 -
[680]
15:00 came and went
17:00 came and went
21:00 came and went
23:00 has now come and gone...
Where the hell is the game?
Maybe you should get someone who knows what their doing to do this next time?
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leper messia
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:29:00 -
[681]
Originally by: baktul
Well... EveMon now says... "Server Offline" instead of something about an error connecting to the server. Which at least says there is some computer across the Atlantic ocean from me that is talking ;)
YES!! that means progress, right? right? right? *sob*
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Havoc123
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:29:00 -
[682]
Originally by: m3talc0re X
Originally by: Havoc123
lol i think its funny that some people take the time to sit there and complain, like its gonna make CCP get it done any faster, some people are truly amazing with there actions thus showing there intelligence, congratulations to you **** tards and to the people who realize what it takes to a move like this are the people who should receive free game time not the little whiner babies! have a good time waiting while i'll go use this time to go do "something else"!!!
Technically, you're doing the same thing, just a different topic, **** tard.
Oh really? please explain how in my original post that i was complaining?
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Akuzoka Akashi
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:29:00 -
[683]
*Looks at watch*
*Looks at log-in screen*
*Looks at watch*
"What the...?"
*Looks at log-in screen*
"But it's 1928..?.?.. Where are my servers? Can I get an update at least?"
*Looks at watch*
=(
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stolen4u
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:29:00 -
[684]
Originally by: CCP Adida
cleared up additional trolling
thread not a troll ?
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Liqsquid
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:29:00 -
[685]
Jeez guys, type slower will ya this thread is actually growing faster then it can be read. (I'm not kidding I've started skipping whole pages).
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Mydraal Ba'alzamon
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:29:00 -
[686]
Originally by: Lockear
Originally by: demobey
Don't know if this is practical with all the international people, but perhaps customers opting in for "text alerts" when the server is restored during downtime would be a good idea? Or email alerts even. Most people can check email on their phones now anyway. It could be an option to toggle in your preferences.
Just a random thought.
^ THIS
+1
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WNxWolfy
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:29:00 -
[687]
Screw this. I'm going to bed, if it's not back up when I wake up I'll sue ya
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:30:00 -
[688]
Originally by: Tia Tzu
TBQF This is a complete JOKE.
OK so 23:00 didnt happen......then we are told it will be up in 10mins or so.....but wont accept connections.
It is now 23:24, no tq up, no update no nothing, just 14hours + of waiting for something we have paid for.....
Being kept up to date and not being given false deadline makes alot of different, are we sure its an upgrade of server we need and not something else? **cough**
Just a thought.
Feel free to unsub and spend your money on something else.
We won't miss you, and I don't want your stuff, because I'm sure it, like you, sucks.
--Vel
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algorythm
Minmatar
Evolution
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:30:00 -
[689]
/me thinks someone forgot to plug the power cables unto the power outlets darn it^_^
_________________________
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NicZtego
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:30:00 -
[690]
Perhaps CCP should be renamed for CCCP. Their (i mean CCCP's) stuff was comaprably "good"
NZT
P.S. CCCP is in russian same as USSR in english
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Jason1138
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:30:00 -
[691]
"So you've never had a power outage from your electric company where the power came on after they said it would? Or your telephone provider? Or your auto mechanic? And the list goes on and on.
GTF over yourself. You're an idiot."
the last time my satellite tv went out during a ppv i was watching, the sat company refunded my money. so where does that leave your argument smartass?
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Viscelera
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:30:00 -
[692]
Originally by: Kalseth
Planets are MELTING ....... OCD is killing me
Same here! *eye twitch*
And to the comment about us sounding like crackfiends... CCP is actually made up of drug dealers, didn't you know? *sniiiiffffff* Mmmmm. *wipes minor nose bleed* It's the good stuff.
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Draculina Alucardi
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:30:00 -
[693]
this is a f.. bull**** really ;o
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Rickbass4001
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:31:00 -
[694]
To the "compensate lost time in isk guy":
Dude, you are being too clever by half.
I say that they compensate us in water. I drink water while I play.
No wait, TIME IS TIME! A = A. No conversion or formula needed! They should just compensate time for TIME!! WOW!
Well, maybe they could compensate us in life. Just add time to our lives. . .no, wait, BEEF! They should compensate us in beef. . . . .
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Masala Chai
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:31:00 -
[695]
Originally by: Damngrass
Originally by: Masala Chai
Too much posting.
How can I do a barrel roll again? Sorry, thank you!
hit "R" or "Z" twice
Thank you Damngrass, very nice of you. Will test this once servers get back up!
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BBQfire
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:31:00 -
[696]
oh, damn. my sources say that BP didn't deliver the needed Diesel for the data center's power-generators.
sorry guys, no EVE until the oil spill is plugged.
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Webby McWebberson
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:31:00 -
[697]
I AM IN GAME \o/
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Savatar Mei
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:31:00 -
[698]
Originally by: Draculina Alucardi
this is a f.. bull**** really ;o
H T F U
THEY HAVE UR MONEY
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Scar Wound
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:31:00 -
[699]
Soon, but not soon enough lol
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Reno Shinra
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:31:00 -
[700]
Yawns God im bored ive nevr been so bored in fact im going to bed, its been my day off today and ive not played eve
:( To counter it - stopped up till 9.30 am and then went to bed set my alarm for the england match and ive been bored every since :)
I thought id be able to watch the match then play eve doh.Well im sure it be pushed back to 2am now the dealine they set 4 hours ago finnished.
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Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:32:00 -
[701]
Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: Iamien
Originally by: AterraX
Edited by: AterraX on 23/06/2010 23:16:29
Amazing amout of whine (cleary from people that don't work in the IT-industry) and an amazingly amout of low I.Q people that didn't plan for delays in either their training or POS fuel....mind boggling.
It doesn't matter if we work in the IT industry or not. It's pretty simple. Consumers expect accurate predictions on service outtages, simple as that. All this, well you don't know IT, is utter bull****. Because if the IT people knew IT, they wouldn't give a rough time to begin with. You can expect most of your consumers to be highly knowledgeable of IT an understand, you have to perform to your own expectations.
*******s, with a system this big you would expect the schedule to slide (if you know anything about large clusters), but I would like to borrow your crystal ball.
But keep on demontrating you subpar knowlegde about IT
(We are not talking about updating Win7 here)
IT doesn't matter that it is related to IT. When you buy a train ticket, you expect the train to be on time. Of course there are sometimes delays and unexpected hick-ups but are all the passengers expected to have a high knowledge of trains and not mind? Of course not. It does not matter what field you work in, if you are a professional you should live up to your own expectations and not blame the complexity of your work, it just makes you sound incompetent.
CCP is not a small, fledgling MMO, it is an international company with hundreds of employees and should be a bit more culpable.
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Aylana Emberlust
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:32:00 -
[702]
Originally by: CCP Adida
cleared up additional trolling
YAY Get the big bad ban hammer
WHOOP WHOOP it's the troll police
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DeltaGhost
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:33:00 -
[703]
I sure hope that this fixes the o.o lag fest of fleet fightes.
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Cpt after
Minmatar
The Illuminati Reborn
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:33:00 -
[704]
Originally by: PI Mike
Originally by: Cpt after
Originally by: PI Mike
Originally by: shushan DaVill
just adding my vote to the positives. keep up the good work ccp, and remember that for every 12 year old child complaining theres some of us who appreciate ur job, even if we dont allways bother saying so.
shlurp shlurp shlurp
please suck it more
FFS CCP anal ur reputation less please
Keep your tears coming mike they are cheering me up
Bitter much?
Talk it up mate, your still sitting in this very same forum waiting, just like me. Not so fun is it? At least your not sucking CCP dong.
Heh Heh, I'm shafting the girl from the PI video. Not really into the gay scene
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Commando Jaxx
Caldari
Mean Corp
Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:33:00 -
[705]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
We have successfully moved our Tranquility servers to their new location
I wouldn't really say "successfully" as its now past 9hours since it "actually" meant to be back on! I want ISK for my wasted day!
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Astra Astus
Gallente
Qor Alchemists
The Phenom Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:33:00 -
[706]
Originally by: Ragewaar
Originally by: Iamien
Edited by: Iamien on 23/06/2010 23:20:53
Originally by: AterraX
Edited by: AterraX on 23/06/2010 23:16:29
Amazing amout of whine (cleary from people that don't work in the IT-industry) and an amazingly amout of low I.Q people that didn't plan for delays in either their training or POS fuel....mind boggling.
It doesn't matter if we work in the IT industry or not. It's pretty simple. Consumers expect accurate predictions on service outtages, simple as that. All this, well you don't know IT, is utter bull****. Because if the IT people knew IT, they wouldn't give a rough time to begin with. You can't expect most of your consumers to be highly knowledgeable of IT and understand, you have to perform to your own expectations.
Ah but you see, I work in IT, and their original estimation was in fact correct. All us IT folk follow the "Windows Time" estimate, meaining we say the operation will complete in 8 hours, but that number fluctuates between 5 mins and 12 days completely randomly, as a windows operation does
QFT.
And the devblog, which I just got around to reading, has my mouth watering.
Most of us still love you CCP
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Esharan
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:33:00 -
[707]
I suggest you all watch this to pass the time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIBUWvXL5b0
Great video!!!
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Spinejuicer
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:33:00 -
[708]
Thank you CCP for giving my beer time to chill.
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Nobile Sheeraan
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:33:00 -
[709]
Originally by: Condamor
The one day I have uber fast internet Eve doesnt work!!!! But what time is it UTC?
Not sure if this has been answered yet, too much posting, but UTC is basically solar time. Right now I believe the only place where local time is UTC would be Iceland, GMT is currently one hour ahead due to daylight savings.
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Feligast
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:33:00 -
[710]
Originally by: Jovian Dax
i actually now think that ccp runs the government in Iceland, seeing as they have collapsed just like ccp's never ending fail on when they will have servers up. as someone who builds houses for a living i can guarantee that my job is 10000000k times harder then plugging in a machine, before any of you comment with "its a little more complex then that" just save it. it really comes down to ccp not hiring people that can time management and complete task's on a timely fashion. in my daily job i have to make estimates of completion time and yes sometimes they do run over. with that said i have to make ammends to my customers but i gladly do it. in reality though my contracts and estimations are very accurate, why you might ask its very simple i know what im doing and i hire people that do as well. so ccp start treating us like we matter to you, and hire people that can do the job.
So as a builder of houses, you've never had supplies come in wrong? NEVER had the trusses be too small? NEVER had a delay in drywall? NEVER had bad weather slow you down? You ALWAYS have everything go perfectly? GTFO and be patient.
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Janus Nightmare
Gallente
ECP Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:33:00 -
[711]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Just a quick update...
We'll be turning TQ on within the next 10 or so minutes. Then we'll make sure everything is working fine with her until opening her up to players.
I know a lot of you are frustrated right now, but please know that we truly appreciate your love of EVE and the passion that you feel for the game.
You will all be able to check your planets, go rat hunting, and, most importantly... mine veldspar... very soon.
You guys are all amazing, and I can't imagine myself working with anyone else but you EVE players :D
You should be a politician. You've got the double-speak down perfectly
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Zaltor Kabalen
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:33:00 -
[712]
This has been the worst MMO day ever. EvE has been down all day right along with my beloved Dark Age of Camelot. I've had to go back to prehistoric forms of entertainment like rolling hoops around by wacking them with sticks. It's really great great fun....
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Zoe Falckon
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:33:00 -
[713]
Originally by: Nicara
keep up the posts i am LMAo
Hehe indeed! I was going to watch a movie, but this thread is too golden to skip!
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MrBeefFlaps
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:34:00 -
[714]
Hey everybody,
watch a film
go see or phone some friends
go to the pub
watch tv
go for a walk
make something to eat
go get laid or have a ****
anything which isn't whining.
You all know that CCP as well as other MMO providers suffer from extended downtimes so what's the point in complaining? It's just wasted energy so go do anything! Trust me life without a screen in front of you isn't that scary and Eve will be back on eventually so be patient!
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Marion Berry
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:34:00 -
[715]
Originally by: Jovian Dax
i actually now think that ccp runs the government in Iceland, seeing as they have collapsed just like ccp's never ending fail on when they will have servers up. as someone who builds houses for a living i can guarantee that my job is 10000000k times harder then plugging in a machine, before any of you comment with "its a little more complex then that" just save it. it really comes down to ccp not hiring people that can time management and complete task's on a timely fashion. in my daily job i have to make estimates of completion time and yes sometimes they do run over. with that said i have to make ammends to my customers but i gladly do it. in reality though my contracts and estimations are very accurate, why you might ask its very simple i know what im doing and i hire people that do as well. so ccp start treating us like we matter to you, and hire people that can do the job.
Congratulations. Your corp will be the recipient of a war dec when the server is up.
You're a f'in idiot. Which I guess is why you're punching nails into wood instead of solving complicated database/network/SAN/whatever problems.
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Dylyna04
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:34:00 -
[716]
Date on Log-in screen need to be change...its 24 alredy and update pls
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Subrahmaya Chandrasekhar
Amarr
J0urneys End
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:34:00 -
[717]
This is a great game. Thanks CCP.
I hope there will be a video of the server move...i'm sure there was some drama.
(Being a part of Eve, with so many different people all around the world...is AWeSomE.)
I say we colonize Mars.
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Lucia Warbler
Infinite Frontiers
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:35:00 -
[718]
Ooh, real funny funny CCP. When it was announced that downtime would take till 15:00, I decided to give you guys extra ten hours cos I know how well you keep your deadlines, but I wasn't expecting this.
*joins the people who decided to get drunk after long enough waiting*
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Styrmir
Gallente
Cut Throats And Wise Guys
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:35:00 -
[719]
I have learned in my life and in my work that the idiom "**** happens" is very true.
One may be driving a forklift, stacking containers the same way as every workday but one day a machine breaks down or the stack falls down making a big mess.
This additional delay was obviously in the "**** happens" category and they could not predict it.
Good job with the updates and thanks for the hard work CCP
Founder and Manager of The Misneden Shuttle Museum |
Budsin Adar
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:35:00 -
[720]
Jenna Sol I agree check my posting and even the EVE Gate doesn't work either and its past the 23hr mark they are TBQH slow and should give us an extension on our game grrr...mad @ CCP atm.
So when is 23hrs huh??????????????? its already past it and as said i now hope we get time extended for this. there is no reason for such delays. Peace to all Pilots in EVE that are waiting
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Telesk
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:35:00 -
[721]
We patiently waited for the downtime deadline,
still waiting past it,
shouldn't we get a compensation for the money wasted for the subscription time for this day?
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PsychoticMidget
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:35:00 -
[722]
As much as it sucks the game is being delayed further.
This forum is so keeping me amused... the Flamers are hilarious, and the *****ing is entertaining.
Do what you need to do CCP, But I sure as hell cant wait.
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Damngrass
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:35:00 -
[723]
Originally by: Masala Chai
Originally by: Damngrass
Originally by: Masala Chai
Too much posting.
How can I do a barrel roll again? Sorry, thank you!
hit "R" or "Z" twice
Thank you Damngrass, very nice of you. Will test this once servers get back up!
Think you gonna need a nintendo controller :<
sidenote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv5qzMtLE60&feature=player_embedded
just do it!
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Heian
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Posted - 2010.06.23 23:35:00 -
[724]
Relax.
- Light a smoke, read the forums for tips and tricks.
Man i love Eve - online, let the CCP fix it for us, as they will, but in peace.
Of course, if you are aiming to get something out from logging in while there are 100+ players online, thats your choice. You can wait:D
So,
light one up, weed if you got it, even better,
Relax.
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:32:00 -
[725]
Is it me or is the forum missing posts made during the (short) time the forum was up yesterday?
Perhaps CCP can import the lost posts from eve-search.com?
Free jumpclone service|1092 stations! |
Sur Jel
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:33:00 -
[726]
yeah they are missing some posts, maybe they did a rollback on the databas.e
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RaTTuS
BIG
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:33:00 -
[727]
Edited by: RaTTuS on 24/06/2010 14:35:02
yes though still on eve-search and links here with noid
edit...
though 99% of those posts where .....
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joe long
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:34:00 -
[728]
ya about 25 pages of post where made.
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Harvister
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:35:00 -
[729]
this could really screw up my skill 5 training i could lose the entire month of training.
perhaps a compensation in order :D some isk maybe?
joking :P
atleast i got Aion online to play with while eve is offline.
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Setertius
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:36:00 -
[730]
neat feat, the frontpage "TQ downtime" link leads here, seems they are re-using thread ids already...
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Schmacos tryne
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:37:00 -
[731]
How much time can it take to physically move a fricking server? Iceland isn't that big... Or did you drop it mayhaps?
We demand an update!
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pshepherd
Caldari
Black-Messa
Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:37:00 -
[732]
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Victor Valka
Caldari
Endoxa Corporation
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:37:00 -
[733]
Originally by: Setertius
neat feat, the frontpage "TQ downtime" link leads here, seems they are re-using thread ids already...
Nothing bad could ever come out of this, right?
Originally by: Spaztick
You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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Kelly Bangs
Caldari
Lost Space Marines
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:38:00 -
[734]
Edited by: Kelly Bangs on 24/06/2010 14:39:11
Ola.. I didnt see that the Server go's down. I have no skill in there
I hope i can play today
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Sur Jel
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:38:00 -
[735]
physically moving is already done, I am quite sure about that ;)
It's more like something else is not working as expected, hence they need to reconfigure some parts of the whole system and then they have to test it... heavily!
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Rainarchy
Minmatar
Balcan United Elite
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:39:00 -
[736]
Lol, the link from front page that should be about the extended downtime leads to this thread
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:40:00 -
[737]
Originally by: Schmacos tryne
How much time can it take to physically move a fricking server? Iceland isn't that big... Or did you drop it mayhaps?
We demand an update!
TQ is in London though.
Item DB | Sigs
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skydvejam
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:40:00 -
[738]
What, there is stuff to do in RL?, Jk, I was hoping to make a few mil, but went to the beach, and all of the other things I would have normally done in RL anyways, just could not have fun in TQ.
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Nishachara
Special Operations Corp
Mortal Destruction
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:40:00 -
[739]
yep it seems that the downtime thread is gone as well as half of the stuff on forum posted this night :P
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joe long
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:40:00 -
[740]
when will the game be up and running.
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Ronz
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:41:00 -
[741]
Progress. yay \o/. Maybe get me some eve tonite.
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ViperTan
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:43:00 -
[742]
fingers crossed
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President 311
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:45:00 -
[743]
@joelong, would u really want them to give you another time update?
just a thought...
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captin somecrap
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:45:00 -
[744]
well i have spent time terozing my wife and kids
rl life can be fun with some air soft guns and a familys that try desperately to use eachother as a human shield from pellett fire
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Kalcharr
Gallente
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:47:00 -
[745]
Wont somebody please think of my PI!!! lol
At least the website is up and running.
The Cake Is A lie...
IRELAND FTW!!! |
pshepherd
Caldari
Black-Messa
Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:48:00 -
[746]
http://omgrawr.net/quote/random
for those who are bored :) its kept me and a few others amused for ages...... and dam i hate long DT's :p had to do so much house work without the excuse that i was busy :( |
BlackChii
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:48:00 -
[747]
TQ is online but not accepting connections but thats progress and the API server aura is still down
/http://eve-offline.net/ FTW
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Serho
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:53:00 -
[748]
skill  skill  skill |
Kaladraxia
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:53:00 -
[749]
TQ seems to be online however it is not accepting log ins... perhaps ccp is finishing some tests and we will be able to play soon....
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Aylana Emberlust
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:53:00 -
[750]
Originally by: Schmacos tryne
How much time can it take to physically move a fricking server? Iceland isn't that big... Or did you drop it mayhaps?
We demand an update!
1 server you think it's ONE little server oh boy try 75 IMB servers and 35 support servers and then don't forget the 30+ or so database servers really now it's alot bigger then you think mate all this to keep 50k+ ppl playing 23 hours a day
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Slater Furious
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:54:00 -
[751]
well i hope we get a days credit on our accounts as taking over a day longer for a dt is taking the micky.
ccp knows that there estimets r never right so why dont they put time on top of what they think and people will be happy
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pshepherd
Caldari
Black-Messa
Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:54:00 -
[752]
Originally by: Nishachara
People...its not so bad to be out of eve for a day, really :D
it has been kinda nice getting house work done :) and shopping and what not so it was nice it was down but not when its now 25hours over the 1500 deadline :) |
Kizzmeister
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:55:00 -
[753]
Hey who are the lucky 23 people who get to play on there while no one else can
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Aambei
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:56:00 -
[754]
Pff, hope we get gametime back. I reactivated my account tuesday, got to play for a couple of hours and now this. Great.
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TriShipMan
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:56:00 -
[755]
Before CCP recover, you can look at http://www.blackprophecy.com, a FPS space ship mmo. The tailer and videos look cool.
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Boon McBwen
Caldari
Prosperity Through Violence
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:57:00 -
[756]
Originally by: Dan O'Connor
Originally by: Schmacos tryne
How much time can it take to physically move a fricking server? Iceland isn't that big... Or did you drop it mayhaps?
We demand an update!
TQ is in London though.
england isnt that big either
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Kelly Bangs
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:57:00 -
[757]
Originally by: Kizzmeister
Hey who are the lucky 23 people who get to play on there while no one else can
I think they are testing, I want play too, gogo ccp
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GigaWare
Amarr
DSC inc
Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:58:00 -
[758]
Originally by: pshepherd
so how has everyone been spending their time in the real world?
I've been good. Playing some other games like Need For Speed is fun :) |
Makoto Kimagawa
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:58:00 -
[759]
well there is a Battlestar Galactica MMO coming out that looks a lot like eve
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:58:00 -
[760]
Originally by: Slater Furious
ccp knows that there estimets r never right so why dont they put time on top of what they think and people will be happy
Ah yeah. Lol, as if that will help.
Quote:
Dear players we are having an extended downtime (day, month year) and Tranquility will be up at least 7 days after that.
We all hope you enjoy your life out of the basement.
Sincerely and see you back again in a week,
CCP.
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:59:00 -
[761]
well considering that servers are in london and not in iceland.
And would not be first time that perfectly running hardware dosent like to be moved and brakes down. What im disapointed is poor information publishing this matter. What went wrong, are they working on it, if its fixed what broke after that....
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BIZZAROSTORMY
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Posted - 2010.06.24 14:59:00 -
[762]
Originally by: pshepherd
so how has everyone been spending their time in the real world?
Playing counterstrike of course.
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Breal D'nie
Mini miner manufacturers
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:00:00 -
[763]
Originally by: Makoto Kimagawa
well there is a Battlestar Galactica MMO coming out that looks a lot like eve
Really? that is really great news!
This TQ stuff reminds me of some of the earlier days of eve. When the server would crash when you were in the middle of doing something and be down for a day or two... ah, the nostalgia. tbh, i don't mind, got lots of RL stuff done and finally have an excuse for not playing that my corpies will understand.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:00:00 -
[764]
Im pretty sure there wont be any kind of time refund.
30 days = 14.95 USD so each day is $.50 per player, so $175k.
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Lucile Engo
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:00:00 -
[765]
Actually technically TQ isn¦t in London, close enough though, it¦s in the bath road office complex in Slough, Berkshire.
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Elesentra
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:00:00 -
[766]
Originally by: Boon McBwen
Originally by: Dan O'Connor
Originally by: Schmacos tryne
How much time can it take to physically move a fricking server? Iceland isn't that big...
TQ is in London though.
england isnt that big either
True enough - but the roads are always jammed here and they started the move on the day everybody went home from work early to watch the England football game.... :-)
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Kurull Skullsplitter
Minmatar
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:02:00 -
[767]
it must be some of that COLD Iclandic humour to link to this thread with a promise of more information... This thread has ZERO information from CCP up to this point
Link Back At Ya |
Aylana Emberlust
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:03:00 -
[768]
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=769
i refer you all here read it in full
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General Eric
Caldari
Every Villan Is Lemons
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:03:00 -
[769]
Just give them there time, CCP is not one of those sites who release games with problems alot of other sites do that. CCP does this "If you are gonna do something, do it right." and I respect that and CCP is probably sorry for the major delay and they just do not want more complaining if they release a bad server that crashes or something.
-Keep on doing great things CCP
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GenSalus
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:04:00 -
[770]
Alright guys, throw it online and let the beta testers...I mean customers, have at it.
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WhyteWulf
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:04:00 -
[771]
ahh, im glad i had the sence to train a really long skill although i have to admit, I wasn't even expecting them to be down for this long. Still, nothing to do but wait i guess.
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Geranamo Starblazer
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:04:00 -
[772]
It is looking like 2 days downtime is going to be a reality and I agree with the compensation comment . Not a computer engineer but maybe if an exsorcisum was done or maybe applying Emergancy Repair Procedure #1( kicking it ) might work ? training que is now empty and extractors are off line ... oh well - read a book
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captin somecrap
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:04:00 -
[773]
makoto i want what yr smoking ccp is not giving out navy ships
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Sickboy78
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:05:00 -
[774]
Good to see they got the website going first. Got to get the meaningless stuff out of the way first. Getting that server online is less of a priority. Really screwed a lot of people on training lost a full day of training time almost. Thanks for your gross incompetence. Is it just me or does it seem that every time EVE schedules an extended downtime, it never ends on time. Asking for patience is 2 or 3 hours over on DT, not 24. Gimme a break.
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Pidgie
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:05:00 -
[775]
I LLOL (literally laugh out loud) (but not literally as this is internet) when I read about 'I want a refund for my 1 days extended downtime'
Imagine if CCP were to charge extra every time the scheduled one hour downtime was only 25-30 minutes...
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Marc Younbrog
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:05:00 -
[776]
Originally by: Schmacos tryne
How much time can it take to physically move a fricking server? Iceland isn't that big... Or did you drop it mayhaps?
We demand an update!
If it was any other company, a time frame of a few hours would be considered ludicrous. Most server migrations take a few DAYS not a few hours. (Granted, it was within the same data center.)
But thanks to CCP, the impossible is possible :P
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Emily Farquad
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:06:00 -
[777]
So I guess my skill probably won't be done tomorrow
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Makoto Kimagawa
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:06:00 -
[778]
BSG MMO
BattleStar alactica MMO
Even though the Battlestar Galactica series has ended fans of the show are about to get closer to the action than ever before.
Gamers got their first chance to check out the upcoming massively multiplayer Battlestar Galactica: Online last week when Bigpoint debuted a demo at E3. For those of you who couldn't make it to L.A., here are two exclusive screen shots so you can see how awesome it will look when the war between humans and Cylons continues.
"It's our most ambitious project ever, and we want fans of the show to know that we are committed to delivering," said Heiko Hubertz, CEO and founder of Bigpoint, the company that created the game.
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FarosWarrior
Amarr
Pure Dutch Damage Corp
United Royal Dreams
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:06:00 -
[779]
Originally by: Setertius
neat feat, the frontpage "TQ downtime" link leads here, seems they are re-using thread ids already...
Always lootin'
Always shootin'
Always movin'
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Daniel Jackson
Caldari
Planet Watchers
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:07:00 -
[780]
Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 24/06/2010 15:14:30
Originally by: pshepherd
so how has everyone been spending their time in the real world?
well since i dont have a real life, i have been spending this time on IMVU http://avatars.imvu.com/AnimeDanV2
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Im pretty sure there wont be any kind of time refund.
30 days = 14.95 USD so each day is $.50 per player, so $175k.
well however 1 year = 131 dollers
Originally by: General Eric
Originally by: Emily Farquad
So I guess my skill probably won't be done tomorrow
Big deal you could not play EVE for two days, get a life other than EVE. Go out, go to the gym, just hangout with friends. Computers are not companions you can not marry them.
I do not have friends in Real Life, and never did.
Originally by: g0ldfinger07
Originally by: General Eric
Originally by: Emily Farquad
So I guess my skill probably won't be done tomorrow
Big deal you could not play EVE for two days, get a life other than EVE. Go out, go to the gym, just hangout with friends. Computers are not companions you can not marry them.
You are Full of **** sir i went to japan and legally married my laptop it treats me better than any woman has. It fulfills all my wants and doesn't demand me to do needless things for her amusement.
LOL, that is probly 1 of the greatest things i have herd in a long time.
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General Eric
Caldari
Every Villan Is Lemons
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:09:00 -
[781]
Originally by: Emily Farquad
So I guess my skill probably won't be done tomorrow
Big deal you could not play EVE for two days, get a life other than EVE. Go out, go to the gym, just hangout with friends. Computers are not companions you can not marry them.
-General Eric |
Glospey
Airom and Rodnog Ltd.
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:09:00 -
[782]
Originally by: Sickboy78
Good to see they got the website going first. Got to get the meaningless stuff out of the way first. Getting that server online is less of a priority. Really screwed a lot of people on training lost a full day of training time almost. Thanks for your gross incompetence. Is it just me or does it seem that every time EVE schedules an extended downtime, it never ends on time. Asking for patience is 2 or 3 hours over on DT, not 24. Gimme a break.
So you acknowledge that their downtime never ends on time? That means you admit your own failure to learn and do what you can about it. Here's a hint: Plan ahead. Put a longer skill in so, when things don't work out, your queue doesn't empty. I seriously wish people would stop complaining. Computers have minds of their own. I am not at all surprised the servers are still down (though I am disappointed as I would like to play).
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Jive
Caldari
Run For Cover
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:09:00 -
[783]
Originally by: Schmacos tryne
How much time can it take to physically move a fricking server? Iceland isn't that big... Or did you drop it mayhaps?
We demand an update!
As someone has rightly pointed out, TQ and all associated network gear is located in London UK. Additionally, there isn't just one server, it's a cluster so we're talking multiple servers (including Jita with it's own), switches, routers, DB servers, API servers etc.
This isn't some "mickey mouse" setup, this is state of the art equipment and as loads have said, something can easily go wrong and by the looks of it, it has.
Patience is a virtue, get some and quickly :)
Events in EvE occur in real time! |
Flibertygibbet
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:09:00 -
[784]
Originally by: Makoto Kimagawa
BSG MMO
BattleStar alactica MMO
upcoming massively multiplayer Battlestar Galactica: Online last week when Bigpoint debuted a demo at E3.
its a BROWSER based game. In short, a snakes & ladders reskin.
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pshepherd
Caldari
Black-Messa
Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:10:00 -
[785]
3min countdown..... |
Tiger Cub
Caldari
The Tyranical Commonwealth
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:10:00 -
[786]
Gold, Its NOT the first time they have been behind schedgule.....
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eaterofcheese
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:10:00 -
[787]
Looks like CCP should start recruiting a good quality implementation manager...
I shan't be able to play EVE until Monday night now - I wonder if it'll be up by then <g> ?
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g0ldfinger07
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:10:00 -
[788]
Originally by: General Eric
Originally by: Emily Farquad
So I guess my skill probably won't be done tomorrow
Big deal you could not play EVE for two days, get a life other than EVE. Go out, go to the gym, just hangout with friends. Computers are not companions you can not marry them.
You are Full of **** sir i went to japan and legally married my laptop it treats me better than any woman has. It fulfills all my wants and doesn't demand me to do needless things for her amusement.
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:11:00 -
[789]
Originally by: Setertius
neat feat, the frontpage "TQ downtime" link leads here, seems they are re-using thread ids already...
With that link there, this is gonna be my longest thread ever
Only 47 pages and 130k views to go to break my current record
Free jumpclone service|1092 stations! |
Arimus Darkhart
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:11:00 -
[790]
Originally by: Tiger Cub
Gold, Its NOT the first time they have been behind schedgule.....
Can't be 100% certain but have a very strong feeling Gold was being sarcastic.
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Dr Qui
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:11:00 -
[791]
updating your paying customers regularly when you are not delivering the product you are charging them for is also a virtue one CCP should really practice
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captin somecrap
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:11:00 -
[792]
tatical shields 4 3d 15h and 27 minn lol auta be done by this after noon
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Jayden Amrahas
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:11:00 -
[793]
Originally by: General Eric
Just give them there time, CCP is not one of those sites who release games with problems alot of other sites do that. CCP does this "If you are gonna do something, do it right." and I respect that and CCP is probably sorry for the major delay and they just do not want more complaining if they release a bad server that crashes or something.
-Keep on doing great things CCP
But you know that there are going to be problems once they actually start allowing people to connect to the server ... right? Then they'll have to shut it down again and be sorry for another delay ... and so on.
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Ticondrius
Orbital Infinity
Saints Amongst Sinners
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:12:00 -
[794]
I'm enjoying the downtime, feels like beta again!
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NRDS: Not Really Defending Space
MMORPG: Many Men Online Role Playing Girls |
Paint Thinner
Amarr
The Grubs
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:12:00 -
[795]
My godson just looked me straight in the face with utter despair and said "They broke the spaceship game."
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Lewis Hamilton
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:13:00 -
[796]
" CCP does this "If you are gonna do something, do it right."
That has to be joke right?
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gala gidas
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:13:00 -
[797]
I know i suck in PVP,i am terrible as a trader and i never exactly understood how industry works in EVE.
But i always took pride about training 24/7 my chars with all sorts of uselless skills.
Oh well..
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Dax T
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:14:00 -
[798]
Originally by: General Eric
Originally by: Emily Farquad
So I guess my skill probably won't be done tomorrow
Big deal you could not play EVE for two days, get a life other than EVE. Go out, go to the gym, just hangout with friends. Computers are not companions you can not marry them.
Who is this ****?
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Yartree
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:14:00 -
[799]
I love comments like this. Because it's really the end of the world now. A day lost in training time, assuming the clock is still ticking in the game. Some people just can't understand the logistics of such an undertaking and it's laughable when they get upset.
Thanks for the excuse to get on with my life for a little bit, CCP. Now get the server up!
Originally by: Sickboy78
Good to see they got the website going first. Got to get the meaningless stuff out of the way first. Getting that server online is less of a priority. Really screwed a lot of people on training lost a full day of training time almost. Thanks for your gross incompetence. Is it just me or does it seem that every time EVE schedules an extended downtime, it never ends on time. Asking for patience is 2 or 3 hours over on DT, not 24. Gimme a break.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:14:00 -
[800]
Hmmmm...the 23 Test Players are gone from Tranquility.....
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SpoonRECKLESS
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:15:00 -
[801]
LMAO I dont care if the server is down i am moving to new place> No net til next week but my training is empty by tomorrow an i wont have any way to access my stuff NOOO!!! A full week of no training I am fked!!!!
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Skippermonkey
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:15:00 -
[802]
Originally by: Paint Thinner
My godson just looked me straight in the face with utter despair and said "They broke the spaceship game."
Did you figure out which expansion he was talking about?
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Daniel Jackson
Caldari
Planet Watchers
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:15:00 -
[803]
Originally by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Hmmmm...the 23 Test Players are gone from Tranquility.....
LOGOFFSKII!~!!
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Electra Sabbota
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:16:00 -
[804]
Are we going to get 2 days of eve on our accounts for this?
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fowlplayclone
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:16:00 -
[805]
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Makoto Kimagawa
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:16:00 -
[806]
Originally by: Paint Thinner
My godson just looked me straight in the face with utter despair and said "They broke the spaceship game."
Awwww a trainee capsuleer :)
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Worf za
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:17:00 -
[807]
Ummm Beginning to think I made a mistake signing up last week, I should have waited for the trail peroid to finish :(
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adrake
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:17:00 -
[808]
Originally by: Paint Thinner
My godson just looked me straight in the face with utter despair and said "They broke the spaceship game."
NICE!!
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Bob James
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:17:00 -
[809]
Hehe. The only thing that seems to be working around here is BILLING.
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xAlexVladx
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:19:00 -
[810]
Edited by: xAlexVladx on 24/06/2010 15:21:17
POSTED thursday after 14 GMT :
"The Tranquility cluster will be down for maintenance on Wednesday, June 23rd."
THIS EXPLAINS IT ALL ! CCP is inside a time warp bubble ! You think the dt took 32 hours when in fact took 32 minutes !
and now you will see how your gametime has gone into the blackhole drain...
Originally by: Estel Arador
Is it me or is the forum missing posts made during the (short) time the forum was up yesterday?
lol you really think they will post 32 pages of reimbursement requests ?
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Jacob Menard
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:20:00 -
[811]
Originally by: pshepherd
so how has everyone been spending their time in the real world?
Spent most of the time in the hospital, heavily medicated, due to extreme withdrawl symptoms....at home now, with my own pills to keep the symptoms at bay.
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a55mu11e7
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:20:00 -
[812]
/says to server
you will accept my connections
these aren't the gamebugs you're looking for
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Paint Thinner
Amarr
The Grubs
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:20:00 -
[813]
Originally by: Skippermonkey
Originally by: Paint Thinner
My godson just looked me straight in the face with utter despair and said "They broke the spaceship game."
Did you figure out which expansion he was talking about?
Best not to interrogate the young man under this kind of extreme duress.
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Cmd Tarkus
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:21:00 -
[814]
Edited by: Cmd Tarkus on 24/06/2010 15:22:01
Could anybody from CCP please provide an update ?
I'm being directed to this tread for information on the down time but I see nothing from CCP.
I can understand how things go side ways sometimes, however there is no excuse for the lack of
communication.
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Makoto Kimagawa
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:21:00 -
[815]
Originally by: Jacob Menard
Originally by: pshepherd
so how has everyone been spending their time in the real world?
Spent most of the time in the hospital, heavily medicated, due to extreme withdrawl symptoms....at home now, with my own pills to keep the symptoms at bay.
then do like me and log onto singularity that's been running since yesterday
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Rawnie
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:21:00 -
[816]
Why am I referred to this thread for more information while this thread contains nothing but BS?
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Franklen
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:22:00 -
[817]
Agreed. Some info would be nice...
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MNagy
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:22:00 -
[818]
Enjoyed the summer yesterday and will enjoy it again today.
The computer tan can wait.
Time to go out to a patio somewhere and have a pint of beer.
Take your time ccp.
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madcow76
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:22:00 -
[819]
Ah but its funny, the tread about ccp giving a time then extending it then saying 10 mins has just vanished.. hhhmmmmm
Suspect ccp suspect
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Axedark
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:22:00 -
[820]
I totally understand the coplex task that ccp is doing moving server`s its not like moving your wirelss connected laptop to the next room..... I just wish it was and i now relized that im a eve junkie and i now understand how junkies feel when they dont get their fix
at least somthing good came out of this DT i grew as a person and understand now why junkies struggle to quit.....
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The7SensE
a Lame Astral Dragon Yogurt
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:22:00 -
[821]
Here's to hoping it goes live tonight.
Also,
／l、
（ﾟ､ ｡ ７ Kitty wants to sacrifice your soul to the gods...
l、 ~ヽ
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Jackdar
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:22:00 -
[822]
Originally by: Worf za
Ummm Beginning to think I made a mistake signing up last week, I should have waited for the trail peroid to finish :(
I agree.... just started getting into it and they shut it off to update it. A real pain. Surely they can give better estimates than they have. They initally thought it'd take 6 hours now its taken 30! Bit stupid.
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pshepherd
Caldari
Black-Messa
Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:22:00 -
[823]
Originally by: Rawnie
Why am I referred to this thread for more information while this thread contains nothing but BS?
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:22:00 -
[824]
Back to about 15 on Tranq. Looks like SOMEthing is working and being tested....maybe not down till 2300 GMT.
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Samira Freitas
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:23:00 -
[825]
Thank You CCP,
now my boss knows that we do a quite good job with our sql/ network/sans.
Before we got an mail that we should not operate the sql servers like we will operate in a heart operation. But see this happens even with guys who i thought they know what they do.
But at least i hope you will manage every issue to get this cool game running again. I cross my fingers for you and hope your boss is at least paying for a pizza for the stress and overhours. Keep your heads up we all say only we could do it better but we would do the same.
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Worf za
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:23:00 -
[826]
Thats what some of us are trying to figure out?
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Malicious Intention
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:23:00 -
[827]
Edited by: Malicious Intention on 24/06/2010 15:24:43
Originally by: pshepherd
so how has everyone been spending their time in the real world?
I spent the day acknowledging the existence of my children. Having EVE down for 24 hours isn't so bad...Keep working hard CCP!
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g0ldfinger07
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:23:00 -
[828]
Originally by: pshepherd
so how has everyone been spending their time in the real world?
I've been running around my house for 32 hours now dodging the Handbanana Because he keeps telling me hes going to r*** me but no one else can hear him. Thanks CCP because i cannot sit in my comfy chair and play eve 23/7 i think i might get 1 in the poop shoot.
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Kelly Bangs
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:23:00 -
[829]
What ever... It is like it is
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Lewis Hamilton
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:24:00 -
[830]
"Tranquility is currently up in test mode and we expect to be live at 16:00 UTC" whats that in real money?
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Milla Jovobitch
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:24:00 -
[831]
Originally by: Kizzmeister
Hey who are the lucky 23 people who get to play on there while no one else can
Me. And my alts.
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Manic McCormic
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:25:00 -
[832]
Originally by: Rawnie
Why am I referred to this thread for more information while this thread contains nothing but BS?
High five, I feel the exact same way. Blah, this site isn't even as current as that temporary "lol the site is down" black page with white text...
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Jevvel
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:25:00 -
[833]
Originally by: Emily Farquad
So I guess my skill probably won't be done tomorrow
That's nothing. EVEMON accessed the API yesterday when they thought they had it working, and it showed I had lost a week of training. Hopefully this is the DB issue they are working on.
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N0A
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:26:00 -
[834]
Originally by: Axedark
I totally understand the coplex task that ccp is doing moving server`s its not like moving your wirelss connected laptop to the next room..... I just wish it was and i now relized that im a eve junkie and i now understand how junkies feel when they dont get their fix
at least somthing good came out of this DT i grew as a person and understand now why junkies struggle to quit.....
If you think that a serious programmer would start the move of a server before checking enough to make sure that it doesnt involve more than a simple db copy and restart of crons, then you did not grew as a person, you are just proving yourself as an amateur.
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Flyinghotpocket
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:26:00 -
[835]
Tranquility Downtime June 23, 2010 Update
Due to the discovery of network and SAN switch issues while performing our server move, Tranquility will remain offline until 23:00 UTC. More information regarding the extended downtime can be found in this thread.
this thread has nothing to do with the reasons for extended down time
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SemiCharmed
Clans of the Sanctums
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:26:00 -
[836]
And que the people bi**ing about how long eve has been down and that you need more hamsters!! 3...2....1... GO!
Hope eve is up for good this time!?
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Levi II
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:26:00 -
[837]
Really this down time sucks. I am losing skill training and ISK. Eve needs to compensate it's players. If it was my cable company I would be compensated.
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Fo Skin
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:28:00 -
[838]
Are there any instances where peoples training has been screwed by something like this? I am 15 days into a 20 day skill .If I Lose I dont think I will renew.
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Luigi Vercotti
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:28:00 -
[839]
Some network architect is going to get fired over this.
Hey CCP, I worked at IBM for 9 years trouble-shooting and designing networks.
Want to fly me over there? I work for plexes.
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Jacob Menard
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:28:00 -
[840]
Originally by: Bob James
Hehe. The only thing that seems to be working around here is BILLING.
BILLING works off of its own cluster, with multiple, worldwide redundancies, so as to ensure that billing ALWAYS works, 24/7/365 !!!!!
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Recami
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:29:00 -
[841]
To paraphrase in LOTRO terms: I am one sad panda. I've lost my ship, and my training queue. this makes me sad. Oh, the foolish rookie pilot I am for thinking a training queue with something that was going to last over 24 hours would have been enough! OMG! INFORMATION: Tranquility is currently up in test mode and we expec to be live at 16.00 UTC"!!!! and 21 players are on to boot! May the grace of the Valar lead and guide CCP testers to the light of the two trees that were lost....
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MegaThordin
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:29:00 -
[842]
Latest message on EVE login page:
Tranquility is currently up in test mode and we expect to be live at 16:00 UTC
/MegaThordin
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Elder Man
Gallente
ATRISC
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:29:00 -
[843]
Originally by: Estel Arador
Edited by: Estel Arador on 24/06/2010 15:09:25
Is it me or is the forum missing posts made during the (short) time the forum was up yesterday?
Perhaps CCP can import the lost posts from eve-search.com?
Edit: Ironically and awesomely, CCP's link on the front page to an information thread leads to this thread about lost posts
Originally by: Setertius
neat feat, the frontpage "TQ downtime" link leads here, seems they are re-using thread ids already...
Stupid Treads FTW !!
I say clean them all out. Most of them are useless babel of meaningless nonsense anyway.
Elder Man |
Frederick Corvinus
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:29:00 -
[844]
Originally by: Schmacos tryne
How much time can it take to physically move a fricking server? Iceland isn't that big... Or did you drop it mayhaps?
We demand an update!
1) It's not 1 server, it's many blade enclosures, switches and other networking devices
2) they are not in Iceland, they are in London, UK
3) Get a clue before posting and making yourself look an idiot. Oh wait, too late.
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Dead Hed
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:29:00 -
[845]
Latest update:
Quote:
Current MOTD -
Tranquility is currently up in test mode and we expect to be live at 16:00 UTC
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Franklen
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:29:00 -
[846]
1600 UTC. Here's hoping!
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BENDER 1
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:29:00 -
[847]
Thats an old post created on 23'rd, message from TQ:
Tranquility is currently up in test mode and we expect to be live at 16:00 UTC
Lets hope this time it works
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Micrihael Smith
Caldari
Eve Engineering Logistics
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:30:00 -
[848]
To answer the enquiries about UTC:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time
I hope thats okay for yoy. I'm not any sort of expert, so I am in CCP's hands. I will just have to take more meds until I can get back on.....I hope my planets are alright.
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Koronos
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:30:00 -
[849]
Originally by: Fo Skin
Are there any instances where peoples training has been screwed by something like this? I am 15 days into a 20 day skill .If I Lose I dont think I will renew.
Years ago after a patch all skills completed, so for instance if you had just started training a lvl 5 bs skill you got a month free training. Other than that I don't remember any training failures off the top of my head other than of course all of the people that still continue to forget to set long skill training despite every single patch but one (that I can recall) taking longer than they say.
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Del Asus
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:30:00 -
[850]
Dose anyone have the skinny on the surver status??
When you go to the eve log in screen is't showing 14 players but not currently accepting connections.
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g0ldfinger07
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:31:00 -
[851]
Edited by: g0ldfinger07 on 24/06/2010 15:33:02
Edited by: g0ldfinger07 on 24/06/2010 15:32:15
Edited by: g0ldfinger07 on 24/06/2010 15:31:22
Originally by: Elder Man
Originally by: Estel Arador
Edited by: Estel Arador on 24/06/2010 15:09:25
Is it me or is the forum missing posts made during the (short) time the forum was up yesterday?
Perhaps CCP can import the lost posts from eve-search.com?
Edit: Ironically and awesomely, CCP's link on the front page to an information thread leads to this thread about lost posts
Originally by: Setertius
neat feat, the frontpage "TQ downtime" link leads here, seems they are re-using thread ids already...
Stupid Treads FTW !!
I say clean them all out. Most of them are useless babel of meaningless nonsense anyway.
And your post as tired and useless as Betty White's P****.
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King Toad
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:31:00 -
[852]
CCP Always Do this, they schedule a downtime and the expected time of completion just gets later and later, this downtime was meant to end a day ago! Can you not just have one extended downtime that wont go wrong? Furthermore, we pay Ç14.95 for this game every 30 days, why should we still have to pay this when so many downtime problems and database errors occur?
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Dotard
Minmatar
Com-Star
SOLARIS - SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:31:00 -
[853]
I also like how they just removed the comments box on their youtube channel when people began complaining. Best PR is treating your player base like they're dumb as ****.
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Primatec Alpha
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:31:00 -
[854]
EVE Online, including its associated official websites and services, is currently unavailable.
On Wednesday, June 23, the Tranquility server cluster was moved to a new location, problem is we don't know where.
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Di Sembowel
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:31:00 -
[855]
Look wat i find! teh epic epic picture of new server!
Linkage
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WhyteWulf
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:32:00 -
[856]
There was an update on twitter 2 hours ago, it seems to be the most recent one:
"Servers are looking good so far in testing. Our pale, pod-goo-wrinkled fingers are crossed. Time still stands"
According to this the servers should be back up in half an hour hopefully. :)
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Jak daYakMaker
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:32:00 -
[857]
I found other things to do Thanks for waking me from my EVE Coma......I just want 2 days credit if it comes back to night or morning in my case.
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Malicious Intention
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:32:00 -
[858]
What would you do if eve lost ALL the data. All the characters-gone. Corporations-gone. EVERYTHING.
Would you start from the beginning?
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Rhaegar Thrax
Gallente
Musashi X
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:32:00 -
[859]
What the **** is with all this recompensation **** I keep hearing? It's like listening to small naive children begging and yelling for candy.
Think about what you're paying for, really think about it. You're paying for a service that CCP provides, in the form of a game yes, but what you're really paying, is CCP employees paychecks, to keep this **** running, and improve upon that service.
Now, CCP is in the middle of bettering that service, in the form of upgrading the physical power of the server (get rid of lag, better staiblity, whatnot), and they're probably working their asses of right now, drenched in sweat, clutching their knuckles and running test after test to ensure this works properly and get rid of all the problems.
So, are you satisfied thinking that someone is working their ass of, to earn the money you pay him? I know I am. They're probably working harder than some of you have ever tried.
Sorry if I come across as an arogant prick, but all this whining really annoys me.
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Shurikane
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:32:00 -
[860]
Edited by: Shurikane on 24/06/2010 15:32:36
Originally by: Dotard
I also like how they just removed the comments box on their youtube channel when people began complaining. Best PR is treating your player base like they're dumb as ****.
Everyone pays for the stupidity of the few short and ill-tempered ones.
Just like car insurance between the ages of 18 and 24!
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Rancid Fish
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:32:00 -
[861]
CCP says: "all your skill ques are belong to us"
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Cmd Tarkus
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:33:00 -
[862]
"Tranquility is currently up in test mode and we expect to be live at 16:00 UTC"
not excepting connections atm,
we are actually now 40min past 16:00 UTC if I'm converting correctly
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Neily
The Circle
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:33:00 -
[863]
Edited by: Neily on 24/06/2010 15:34:48
Due to the discovery of network and SAN switch issues while performing our server move, Tranquility will remain offline until 23:00 UTC.
and I have already Skills STOP :(
I controll all the skills all days, so they never stop.
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Fo Skin
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:33:00 -
[864]
Thanks Koronos that does make me feel better.
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Uxoos
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:34:00 -
[865]
Can somebody tell exact(more or less)time when this bloody DT is going to finish? And the other question about my money... will ccp return me my more than one day, which i have payed for?
enough is enough? already!
Start it, or give some explanations!
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Bob James
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:34:00 -
[866]
Originally by: Cmd Tarkus
"Tranquility is currently up in test mode and we expect to be live at 16:00 UTC"
not excepting connections atm,
we are actually now 40min past 16:00 UTC if I'm converting correctly
You are NOT correct, sir. . .
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Victor Corsaire
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:34:00 -
[867]
Originally by: Dan O'Connor
Originally by: Schmacos tryne
How much time can it take to physically move a fricking server? Iceland isn't that big... Or did you drop it mayhaps?
We demand an update!
TQ is in London though.
And they are not physically moving the server, they are moving to an entirely new server, which can and has had some issues which should be expected. Im actually surpised at how quick this move is going, considering the last move back in 2007 I think lasted about a week I think?
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Nicara
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:35:00 -
[868]
Twitter is now over its max capacity, least we know where all the eve players went =0
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Shark Stunter
Galactic Express
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:35:00 -
[869]
CCP, the Valve of Iceland.
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Lewis Hamilton
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:36:00 -
[870]
Crafty mf's - the quoted 16.00 GMT before, now its UTC, gives them another hour, then what? 16.00 some other time zone -)
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manidu
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:36:00 -
[871]
Edited by: manidu on 24/06/2010 15:37:52
EULA 12.
[...]
# While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures.
You all agreed to this when you created your account. Didn't read it? Your own fault. Now stop complaining about DT, would you? ;)
EDIT: This also means you cannot claim any reimbursement for that downtime! If we get one, it's only because of CCP's goodwill, and I wouldn't give us one after reading all this whining... |
Avenger1
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:36:00 -
[872]
Edited by: Avenger1 on 24/06/2010 15:36:56
Nice to see Whinging/Whiners corner is going strong again. life's a bi*ch then you die.
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Dotard
Minmatar
Com-Star
SOLARIS - SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:37:00 -
[873]
Originally by: Rancid Fish
CCP says: "all your skill ques are belong to us"
Yeah, that's actually the only annoying thing. The weather is lovely BUT ONE OF MY TOONS IS FALLING BEHIND
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WhyteWulf
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:37:00 -
[874]
Originally by: Cmd Tarkus
"Tranquility is currently up in test mode and we expect to be live at 16:00 UTC"
not excepting connections atm,
we are actually now 40min past 16:00 UTC if I'm converting correctly
nope the UK is currently in BST (GMT/UTC/EVE time +1) its 16:34 here so 25 mins ish to go :)
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Rancid Fish
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:37:00 -
[875]
The time is above your post. So we aren't there yet :)
CCP says: "You have no chance to survive make your time."
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Kameela
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:37:00 -
[876]
This is actually a fairly good example to site when you are arguing for an extended training que. You only have 24 hours, yet the server has been down beyond that, of course one could argue "just put a long skill in." That, however, only works when you KNOW you will be away for a while, we were told it would last about 6 hours, so there was no worry. I am not actually one of the players, who lobbies for a longer training que, I am, however, lobbying that CCP, should definetly address the issue of lost training time and play time, especially for those who pay for a sub (which i don't) so again no bias.
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Jak daYakMaker
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:38:00 -
[877]
Originally by: Rhaegar Thrax
What the **** is with all this recompensation **** I keep hearing? It's like listening to small naive children begging and yelling for candy.
Think about what you're paying for, really think about it. You're paying for a service that CCP provides, in the form of a game yes, but what you're really paying, is CCP employees paychecks, to keep this **** running, and improve upon that service.
Now, CCP is in the middle of bettering that service, in the form of upgrading the physical power of the server (get rid of lag, better staiblity, whatnot), and they're probably working their asses of right now, drenched in sweat, clutching their knuckles and running test after test to ensure this works properly and get rid of all the problems.
So, are you satisfied thinking that someone is working their ass of, to earn the money you pay him? I know I am. They're probably working harder than some of you have ever tried.
Sorry if I come across as an arogant prick, but all this whining really annoys me.
Your an Idiot or a Commie.......whatever nice to have complacent peons like yourself to step on and yada yada
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This Suxbad
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:38:00 -
[878]
As I watch my characters skill cache time out on capsuleer and suffer eve withdraws I think of ways ccp can make this up to me. Maybe speed up trining time, maybe free skill points to be applied to skills I choose?
Then as the withdraw starts to subside or maybe from being tired from waking up periodically through the nite to see if server is online, I realize... Think I may have a problem and it aint eve's fault... or is it?
Please behead the JO incharge of this move and post video online.
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MalarSpark
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:38:00 -
[879]
i for one am glad its taking this long, yeah were not able to update skills and that but wouldnt people rather CCP did it right the first time then rushing it and messing it up?! at least with the time we know its definitly guna make things better! its not the end of the world just a minor inconvineance.
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Frederick Corvinus
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:39:00 -
[880]
Originally by: Rhaegar Thrax
What the **** is with all this recompensation **** I keep hearing? It's like listening to small naive children begging and yelling for candy.
Think about what you're paying for, really think about it. You're paying for a service that CCP provides, in the form of a game yes, but what you're really paying, is CCP employees paychecks, to keep this **** running, and improve upon that service.
Now, CCP is in the middle of bettering that service, in the form of upgrading the physical power of the server (get rid of lag, better staiblity, whatnot), and they're probably working their asses of right now, drenched in sweat, clutching their knuckles and running test after test to ensure this works properly and get rid of all the problems.
So, are you satisfied thinking that someone is working their ass of, to earn the money you pay him? I know I am. They're probably working harder than some of you have ever tried.
Sorry if I come across as an arogant prick, but all this whining really annoys me.
^ This. Anyone with half a clue won't see you as one. That or they'll see me as one for agreeing with you
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Makoto Kimagawa
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:40:00 -
[881]
Originally by: Cmd Tarkus
"Tranquility is currently up in test mode and we expect to be live at 16:00 UTC"
not excepting connections atm,
we are actually now 40min past 16:00 UTC if I'm converting correctly
nope, its now 20 mins to go live (we hope) UTC = GMT = 1 hour less than UK at the moment..
Current time is shown on the post info as well you posted here
Cmd Tarkus Posted - 24/06/2010 15:33:00 - Quote
^^^^^^^^ - not 1600
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Shurikane
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:40:00 -
[882]
So I might lose a cycle of PI production. Big deal.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'ma play some STALKER and L4D2 today. Look for Dibs on Rochelle!
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Oh Hye
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:40:00 -
[883]
Originally by: Cmd Tarkus
"Tranquility is currently up in test mode and we expect to be live at 16:00 UTC"
not excepting connections atm,
we are actually now 40min past 16:00 UTC if I'm converting correctly
You are not. 1600 UTC (aka GMT aka Zulu time) = 1700 UK time during the summer months. UTC does not adjust for daylight savings. Nor, incidentally does South Africa or India... |
Jacob Menard
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:40:00 -
[884]
Quote:
Posted - 2010.06.24 15:59:59
TRANQUILITY is still down. We expect it to be down for a while longer. When that will be, we are not sure. Hopefully, by the time the next expansion is ready, we will have the servers up and running. As always, thanks for being patient...
CCP Misinformation
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Tommy Blue
Executive Intervention
Primary.
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:41:00 -
[885]
For all of you whining about lost skill training, you should have expected an extended, extended downtime. There is a reason why CCP says to put a long skill in before expansion. This I would have expected to take even longer, since they are physically moving the servers themselves.
And giving the players a free day is not uncommon, its been done before in the past.
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Hoboius Trevorian
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:41:00 -
[886]
Edited by: Hoboius Trevorian on 24/06/2010 15:41:04
The point is CCP are failing to even provide this service. If CCP were a proper business they would have ensured the new hardware were up and running before switching off the old hardware.
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Dirty Snipe
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:41:00 -
[887]
Im that bored ive resorted to creating a new website for people wanting to recruit.
www.eve-recruit.co.uk
still got loads to do on it.
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Merenas
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:41:00 -
[888]
How many times has this supposed move occurred? I know this is not the first time. What is with the merchants and how many people have been removed from them again???
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Dotard
Minmatar
Com-Star
SOLARIS - SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:42:00 -
[889]
SERVER UP!!!
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Bob James
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:42:00 -
[890]
Perhaps this is a fine opportunity for you to leave your mother's basement and go see the real world for a bit.
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King Toad
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:43:00 -
[891]
Originally by: Tommy Blue
For all of you whining about lost skill training, you should have expected an extended, extended downtime. There is a reason why CCP says to put a long skill in before expansion. This I would have expected to take even longer, since they are physically moving the servers themselves.
And giving the players a free day is not uncommon, its been done before in the past.
I put a 2 day skill in about 12 hours before the DT started, it finishes in 10 minutes!
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wtf censors
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:43:00 -
[892]
Instead of a free day.How about one day taken off of whatever skill is in the cue
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Dirk Morbho
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:43:00 -
[893]
Originally by: Kameela
This is actually a fairly good example to site when you are arguing for an extended training que. You only have 24 hours, yet the server has been down beyond that, of course one could argue "just put a long skill in." That, however, only works when you KNOW you will be away for a while, we were told it would last about 6 hours, so there was no worry. I am not actually one of the players, who lobbies for a longer training que, I am, however, lobbying that CCP, should definetly address the issue of lost training time and play time, especially for those who pay for a sub (which i don't) so again no bias.
Agreed. Well said.
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Carlos Det
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:43:00 -
[894]
ufff 12 hours skill time lost , thanks ccp
and 2 more chars almost at their end of the rope too
next time please tell us 1 week server down.
please skill acordingly if we get the system up before that time frame feel lucky
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Wenomos
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:44:00 -
[895]
give me my 2 days back for free
and 2 days additionally as a gift
Thouse 2 days are payed
so the price is about 1$ for now
as You know we have from 30.000 up to
50.000 players on line daily minimum.
so if CCP will not give any compensation
I would say 50.000 $ just stolen
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jubbil
Minmatar
The Legion Of Pods
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:44:00 -
[896]
quit changeing from gmt to utc its confusing the crap outta me
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Ziggeraut
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:44:00 -
[897]
Originally by: Rhaegar Thrax
What the **** is with all this recompensation **** I keep hearing? It's like listening to small naive children begging and yelling for candy.
Think about what you're paying for, really think about it. You're paying for a service that CCP provides, in the form of a game yes, but what you're really paying, is CCP employees paychecks, to keep this **** running, and improve upon that service.
Now, CCP is in the middle of bettering that service, in the form of upgrading the physical power of the server (get rid of lag, better staiblity, whatnot), and they're probably working their asses of right now, drenched in sweat, clutching their knuckles and running test after test to ensure this works properly and get rid of all the problems.
So, are you satisfied thinking that someone is working their ass of, to earn the money you pay him? I know I am. They're probably working harder than some of you have ever tried.
Sorry if I come across as an arogant prick, but all this whining really annoys me.
agreed
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chrisss0r
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:52:00 -
[898]
Originally by: LuckyWatchman
Although, I suspect the way things went was:
Engineer: Don't expect anything to work for at least a day. Worst case we could be down for a week. Tell players the servers are going down and will be up when they're ready.
Marketing: Uhm, what is the fastest the servers could come up if all went right?
Engineer: Say 6-8hrs
Marketing: I'll post 6hrs then!
THIS. totally
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Jak daYakMaker
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:53:00 -
[899]
Originally by: Ziggeraut
Originally by: Rhaegar Thrax
What the **** is with all this recompensation **** I keep hearing? It's like listening to small naive children begging and yelling for candy.
Think about what you're paying for, really think about it. You're paying for a service that CCP provides, in the form of a game yes, but what you're really paying, is CCP employees paychecks, to keep this **** running, and improve upon that service.
Now, CCP is in the middle of bettering that service, in the form of upgrading the physical power of the server (get rid of lag, better staiblity, whatnot), and they're probably working their asses of right now, drenched in sweat, clutching their knuckles and running test after test to ensure this works properly and get rid of all the problems.
So, are you satisfied thinking that someone is working their ass of, to earn the money you pay him? I know I am. They're probably working harder than some of you have ever tried.
Sorry if I come across as an arogant prick, but all this whining really annoys me.
agreed
another CCP troll
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Dutch Psycho00
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:53:00 -
[900]
Originally by: Tochimo
I think what frustrates most people is that a company like CCP, who obviously know a lot about networking and computers would suggest that a massive, physical server move is only going to take 6 hours and go smoothly. There are times I lose internet for longer just because someone accidentally unplugs the modem at home, and when it all gets hooked up again, it just won't work till the next day. Computers and electronics can be fickle and moody. One wrong line of code can mean a serious crash with potential data loss. One bump on the move and some hardware can get jumbled and need maintenance.
On a side note, while the idea of EVEGATE and having as many services as possible available outside of the game is great, it seems like pretty poor planning to have your main websites (including CCPGAMES.com for those of you that checked yesterday) down most of the day just because it's all so integrated that one cannot be running without the other.
When all is said and done, though, CCP does deliver a better product and better services than any other MMO I've payed to play.
And for all you people who can only say "Blah blah blah get out and see th world" - TROLLS!
i have to agree with you.
most of the time the server is up and running and when there is something going wrong that causes a database error or a server freeze.
people get frustrated at CCP.
so people keep in mind that the cluster which TQ is on is a huge system. and is very sensitive.
i want the people who keeps naging about the littlest of things to try and setup this huge server that TQ is on and try to handle it yourself the way that CCP is doing it.
i think that CCP is doing a great job when it comes to maintaining the server and fixing issues when they occur.
and like tochimo said in his post the smallest thing can cause a computer or server to stop with what it is doing.
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Fos Aenao
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:53:00 -
[901]
so, when the server goes up, we ALL will log in and the server will then crash again
lmao
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Fargon Tukayir
Senex Legio
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:53:00 -
[902]
Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Seriously, just kill yourself.
All of you.
in about few bilions years everything what human-kind archieved will be forgotten, there will be no sign of us ever existed. Anything you deem its important, is important just for you, even if you claim its not. Everything you write, quote, think is just complex memory transgression. You all are just slaves of the sociaty you live in. You cant change it. So who cares about downtime, who cares about some time your toon lose in training queue. In less then 100 years all of you will be dead anyway.
There is no real world, there is only our limited capability of understanding the things around us.
Dude, you so summarized Buddhism, or is it Hinduism??
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Zusidius Bazicus
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:54:00 -
[903]
next update on the 'next' delay in 5 minutes
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Ninfomane
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:54:00 -
[904]
I'm agree with some people understanding the (real) business.
I agree with Carebear One posts last night.
This is an online service, CCP people are not my friends, some badasses here look at "hey its only a game" no, false: its business, it is an overpayed online service (19$ per months -in euros- I pay less my ISP for 24/7 broadband).
To understand better the situation just imagine AT&T, Orange or whatever you are using put you offline for an undefinited time, and hey, "they are working like mad! My appreciation!" AH AH AH, dont be silly, I bet 1 billion ISK you're furious after 24 hours without broadband, and no excuses.
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Dinta Zembo
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:54:00 -
[905]
Originally by: Fos Aenao
so, when the server goes up, we ALL will log in and the server will then crash again
lmao
Exactly XD
And if that doesn't crash it, it'll be the petition system freaking out
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Pidgie
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:54:00 -
[906]
Sadly, this delay will be even further extended.
The comments from this thread have been read out to the engineers working hard to solve the issue.
Seven of these engineers now have gone home, as they beleieve their unpaid isn't justified due to all the sooking.
4 Hamsters were harmed in the production of this post.
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James5955
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:55:00 -
[907]
While I'd hate to jump on the band wagon I must say CCP's involvement with keeping the community updated was not very impressive. While I'm glad they're taking the extra time to fix whatever issue they ran into I do wish they could be a little more accurate with their ETA's. Basically I only had a 10 hour training que on my alt when the downtime begun, I didn't think we'd be sitting here for THIRTY + hours til the servers came back up (never have seen a company THAT far off). Now that wouldn't have bothered me so much if I wasn't waiting for hours for a response on when they'd expect the servers to be up just to be completely wrong yet again, I have better stuff to do other then keeping a close eye for ETA so that I can set up my planets and my skill ques..
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enterprisePSI
Gallente
Unimatrix 0.1
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:55:00 -
[908]
@CCP : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmHeP9Sve48
CEO of Unimatrix 0.1« An Eve Online« Corporation. |
Julienne Poirier
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:56:00 -
[909]
this thread used to be the sticky about the server move
http://eve-search.com/thread/1341766
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Wraithwyrm
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:57:00 -
[910]
Originally by: Mercer Darkstar
I think it's time for some IT Crowd quotes. I'll start us off
Roy - "Hello, IT, have you tried turning it off and on again?" "Is it plugged in?"
0118 999 88199 9119 725 3
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Baphomet MoonRyder
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:57:00 -
[911]
Why wouldn't we have a right to *****, and expect some sort of comp? We are paying for a service, if we miss our account payments what happens? You can have all the excuses in the world, but you will be promptly cut off.
I am sure that they are working hard, as they should be that is what they get paid for, that is what we are paying for. I am sick of people coming on here *****ing about people *****ing. If you went to a restaurant and they told you it would take 6 hours for a table, then it ended up taking 48 hours. Would you complain? We pay our bills they at the very least could give us up to date info on the situation.
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Karles
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:58:00 -
[912]
Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Seriously, just kill yourself.
All of you.
in about few bilions years everything what human-kind archieved will be forgotten, there will be no sign of us ever existed. Anything you deem its important, is important just for you, even if you claim its not. Everything you write, quote, think is just complex memory transgression. You all are just slaves of the sociaty you live in. You cant change it. So who cares about downtime, who cares about some time your toon lose in training queue. In less then 100 years all of you will be dead anyway.
There is no real world, there is only our limited capability of understanding the things around us.
Man, seriously, create a sect, go to an Himalayan peak and teach who wants to hear you your cheap philosophy. I am not.
In a serious business company, a move planned for 6h and goin still for 30some hours will mean someone's head in a plate and thousands of Euros in losses. Since we are paying the same and even there is ppl that are grateful, probably he/she will even have a promotion. This is seriously fecked up.
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Tochimo
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:00:00 -
[913]
Originally by: Fargon Tuk****
Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Seriously, just kill yourself.
All of you.
in about few bilions years everything what human-kind archieved will be forgotten, there will be no sign of us ever existed. Anything you deem its important, is important just for you, even if you claim its not. Everything you write, quote, think is just complex memory transgression. You all are just slaves of the sociaty you live in. You cant change it. So who cares about downtime, who cares about some time your toon lose in training queue. In less then 100 years all of you will be dead anyway.
There is no real world, there is only our limited capability of understanding the things around us.
Dude, you so summarized Buddhism, or is it Hinduism??
Or Nihilism? lol
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SugarPuffJr
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:00:00 -
[914]
Originally by: Baphomet MoonRyder
Why wouldn't we have a right to *****, and expect some sort of comp? We are paying for a service, if we miss our account payments what happens? You can have all the excuses in the world, but you will be promptly cut off.
I am sure that they are working hard, as they should be that is what they get paid for, that is what we are paying for. I am sick of people coming on here *****ing about people *****ing. If you went to a restaurant and they told you it would take 6 hours for a table, then it ended up taking 48 hours. Would you complain? We pay our bills they at the very least could give us up to date info on the situation.
Agreed, could we atleast have some CCP input? Has there been any on this thread yet?
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KiiRKWOOD
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:01:00 -
[915]
WOOOOOOO!
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King Toad
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:01:00 -
[916]
Edited by: King Toad on 24/06/2010 16:01:24
ONLINE!!!! Dear god EVE isn't responding...
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Zedia Zhane
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:01:00 -
[917]
Dammit, the account management page has been disabled. I can't get on to unsubscribe all my alt accounts...
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Mercer Darkstar
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:01:00 -
[918]
Originally by: Wraithwyrm
Originally by: Mercer Darkstar
I think it's time for some IT Crowd quotes. I'll start us off
Roy - "Hello, IT, have you tried turning it off and on again?" "Is it plugged in?"
0118 999 88199 9119 725 3
LOL that's a good one
Here's another one:
Moss: [picks up phone] Hello, IT? Yah-hah? Have you tried forcing an expected reboot? You see the driver hooks the function by patching the system call table, so it's not safe to unload it unless another thread's about to jump in there and do its stuff, and you don't want to end up in the middle of invalid memory.
[laughs]
Moss: Hello?
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Makoto Kimagawa
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:02:00 -
[919]
i am in .... YAAAAAAY
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Eivo
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:02:00 -
[920]
Originally by: Fos Aenao
so, when the server goes up, we ALL will log in and the server will then crash again
lmao
This.
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Corda Win
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:02:00 -
[921]
Whatdoes UTC mean when they talk aboout time
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Shiiquong
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:02:00 -
[922]
Edited by: Shiiquong on 24/06/2010 16:03:36
16:00 GMT has passed. Status Update?
... Gone finding that looking glass
Alright, gotta do it by myself:
Status: OK
13 Players
Attempting to login - just entered character selection
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Baphomet MoonRyder
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:03:00 -
[923]
Originally by: KR1ST0PH3R
Edited by: KR1ST0PH3R on 24/06/2010 16:00:58
Edited by: KR1ST0PH3R on 24/06/2010 15:59:45
You are looking at this issue from the wrong angle. CCP has punished themselves for this issue. Look at this from my point of view. During this 30+ hour extended downtime thousands of accounts expired, and could not resubscribed; and I assume a small percentage of those will not renew. Several thousand new subscribers could not get online to start a new account. Several thousand new players on trial account have just experienced one of the worst DT in eve history; and a percentage of those will not renew because of it. They have lost ten of thousands of dollars, and have lost subscribers. If the service is not online, then customers can not subscibe and that cash register in Iceland does not ring.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:03:00 -
[924]
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Server UP ----------------------------------------------
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Lets do some hardcore testing, so they can watch
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fr33dom fighter
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:03:00 -
[925]
woop im online!
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Daetro
Caldari
Eggz Enterprises
Imajiaca
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:03:00 -
[926]
If you are purchasing/buying/renting/.etc from a business, and the business does not deliver what the are selling you, you DO have the right to complain! To say otherwise is totally asinine, and refuse your rights as a purchase e!
That is just common sense.
Whining on the other hand, is both frivolous, annoying as f@*#!
CCP, you should have been better prepared for such a scenario!
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Tazana
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:03:00 -
[927]
Wooohoooooo am in at last :D
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shadowgirl9
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:04:00 -
[928]
ok this is what i don't understand is we pay for this game each month and every day their is a dt with is fine, however when their is a patch it is always extended by a few hours because they can never guess the time right and we all sit here waiting for it to come back up and then we have lag problems or datebase issues and the servers go back down for even more time, then stuff like this happens here its down for 30 somthing hours. now adding up all this lost time over a year is adding up to about a few weeks for of game time and yet we still don't get anything back for this, we are never offered a free month or a few free days to make up for this lost time that they still expeact us to pay for.
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Hoboius Trevorian
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Shurikane
Originally by: Hoboius Trevorian
Edited by: Hoboius Trevorian on 24/06/2010 15:41:04
The point is CCP are failing to even provide this service. If CCP were a proper business they would have ensured the new hardware were up and running before switching off the old hardware.
You wish.
I will speak by experience. Check this out:
<snip>
This I understand, but in a switch to new hardware there is inherent redundancy. So even if the new stuff doesn't behave like it should do (suprise suprise) the old stuff still chugs away.
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WhyteWulf
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:05:00 -
[930]
its up im in
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Jaraquai
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:05:00 -
[931]
*bows to CCP*
Thank you CCP for keeping TQ uptime threw the years better than World of Warcraft, Everquest 2, and City of Heroes/Villains. I have accounts with those games and many more that I pay my monthly fee for however Eve Online seems to have the better track record for server uptime. So to you CCP, again I give my thanks. Take your time and get it right.
And for those of you complaining just remember that a lot of games go down for "extended downtime" nearly EVERY week or have longer maintenance periods than Eve Online does most of the time. Your $15 a month gets you more actual playtime in game with Eve Online than you'll get in most other games. That's saying something
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Jarmug
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:06:00 -
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how in the sam hill can you throughly test the database with only 20 people. Come on guys with over 40k on line at any given time a through test would have to have at least 55 of that amonunt. No wonder you have QC problems.
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CBBOMBERMAN
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:06:00 -
[933]
Edited by: CBBOMBERMAN on 24/06/2010 16:07:09
Originally by: Frederick Corvinus
Originally by: Lewis Hamilton
Crafty mf's - the quoted 16.00 GMT before, now its UTC, gives them another hour, then what? 16.00 some other time zone -)
Uhhh GMT and UTC are approx the same time - Read This
Education about timezones seems to be epic fail in many locations....
There is one problem that throws away some people. Although the UTC time is basically the same as GMT, in Iceland they dont use day light saving time. This is why sometimes the time does not matches with GMT in different stages of a year, which leads to the confusion i think
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King Toad
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:07:00 -
[934]
Horray I'm Online at last!
Uh oh... EVE client is not responding, now to ***** at Vista...
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Jacevetter
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:12:00 -
[935]
Hey if thats all they lost, we're all in good shape. I'm thinking we better check inventory, hangers, corp assets etc and make sure NOTHING else is missing. Oh...wallets too, unless I have MORE than I remember last LOLOL..yeah right, like that will ever happen. Once the new servers are up and running, we can start looking at power back up, and server crash times, and lots of fun ahead right ?
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TaraSien Da
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:14:00 -
[936]
Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Seriously, just kill yourself.
All of you.
in about few bilions years everything what human-kind archieved will be forgotten, there will be no sign of us ever existed. Anything you deem its important, is important just for you, even if you claim its not. Everything you write, quote, think is just complex memory transgression. You all are just slaves of the sociaty you live in. You cant change it. So who cares about downtime, who cares about some time your toon lose in training queue. In less then 100 years all of you will be dead anyway.
There is no real world, there is only our limited capability of understanding the things around us.
A few billion? Try about 20,000...probably less.
On importance...am I the only one who thinks spending some of my limited time of self-awareness being mentally stimulated by a form of entertainment is important? I think not. :)
I can change my slavery status within the society in which i exist simply by leaving that society. So can you.
Not all of us will be dead in 100 years. Advancements in science and medicine are already seeing to that. It's estimated that the average lifespan of a human born after 1995 is 120 years.
I think these people are concerned about downtime and training queues and whatnot because it's something to do to alleviate the monotony and distance themselves from the cold hard facts of life you tried to describe.
Kudos on the last bit...about reality being what we perceive. That part is profound, if not over-used.
By the way, what is a "complex memory transgression"? :)
Cheers
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Jak daYakMaker
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:16:00 -
[937]
Originally by: Baphomet MoonRyder
Why wouldn't we have a right to *****, and expect some sort of comp? We are paying for a service, if we miss our account payments what happens? You can have all the excuses in the world, but you will be promptly cut off.
I am sure that they are working hard, as they should be that is what they get paid for, that is what we are paying for. I am sick of people coming on here *****ing about people *****ing. If you went to a restaurant and they told you it would take 6 hours for a table, then it ended up taking 48 hours. Would you complain? We pay our bills they at the very least could give us up to date info on the situation.
Outstanding.....We pay for the right to gripe and moan......CCP has marketed it's Product (EVE) to be intertwined our lives......so when my daily vacation from RL in interrupted....I am a disappointed and require some compensation.....Now if you are someone who orders something and eagerly awaits it and does not get it cheers because I just happen to have the Brooklyn bridge for sale.....Please visit www.brooklynbridgesale.com and use the idiotinwaiting Code....lol
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Kell VanEyck
Caldari
Free Mercenaries Union
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:19:00 -
[938]
Ok really, were going to complain about a longer than expected DT and say CCP isnt doing its job, or isnt satisfying its customers. Name ONE other MMO out there that routinly releases FREE content upgrades, or that can run everything on a single shard. WOW has just as many downtimes, just as long or longer DTs, and has you pay for expansion packs. As a customer, even with the longer than expected DT, I salute you CCP, for making my 15 a month go farther than with any other MMO.
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Braetac Toric
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:19:00 -
[939]
Edited by: Braetac Toric on 24/06/2010 16:19:15
The problem I had with it was the..
"Hey... it will be up by this time"
"No... now this time"
"Sorry, maybe this time it will work."
I understand unforeseen circumstances happy but do NOT give people a time to expect things to be up only to push it back 4 or 5 times.
After the first window they should have said...
"Hey, we have major problems here... the game will be back up an running when we get it all straightened out".
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Jak daYakMaker
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:21:00 -
[940]
Originally by: Kell VanEyck
Ok really, were going to complain about a longer than expected DT and say CCP isnt doing its job, or isnt satisfying its customers. Name ONE other MMO out there that routinly releases FREE content upgrades, or that can run everything on a single shard. WOW has just as many downtimes, just as long or longer DTs, and has you pay for expansion packs. As a customer, even with the longer than expected DT, I salute you CCP, for making my 15 a month go farther than with any other MMO.
Kell VanEyck please visit www.brooklynbridgesale.com and use the idiotinwaiting Code
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Flamehaired Death
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:22:00 -
[941]
Edited by: Flamehaired Death on 24/06/2010 16:23:53
Originally by: Estel Arador
Edited by: Estel Arador on 24/06/2010 15:09:25
Is it me or is the forum missing posts made during the (short) time the forum was up yesterday?
Perhaps CCP can import the lost posts from eve-search.com?
Edit: Ironically and awesomely, CCP's link on the front page to an information thread leads to this thread about lost posts
Originally by: Setertius
neat feat, the frontpage "TQ downtime" link leads here, seems they are re-using thread ids already...
Yeah I am betting that the SAN issue was swapping data to the wrong disks and corrupted some databases. While CCP is fairly good especially with software they lack that last bit of polish that would make them truly great professionals at server and network administration. So I am also betting that they somehow lack the ability to do a quick full restore to right before the change. Unfortunately it seems "fly by the seat of your pants" for big changes is CCP's IT weakness.
IMHO the actual change should have only been a matter of load the most current data. If CCP was totally professional about such a major change, everything should have been loaded, configured, and tested on this new hardware setup with software and data from 1-3 days ago before attempting the change.
I realize CCP might have wanted to reuse some items from the old setup. But most computer hardware vendors will lend extra hardware or allow free swapping for a short time changeover period if you are not replacing everything. And if vendors wouldn't cough up missing hardware for the new setup for free...CCP could have rented or leased or paid a small fee for exchanging hardware tied up in the old configuration for new hardware.
CCP is just lucky that their product is so much better than competitors that CCP can count on a captive audience.
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CaptainLonestar
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:24:00 -
[942]
Stop with the wining, nagging, and the B*t*Hing! What will they work harder and fast to shut you up? NO! Its just a game people just a game its for entertainment. While you all have entertained me for the last hour while read all the post, I actually found some information on whats going on with CCP and TQ move! Read This post
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=769
After reading that I tip my hat at the CCP that's some pretty heavy sh*t man. Not every one on here is lame. So I apologize on behave of all those lame people we are sorry for the inconvenience to those people who work hard maintaining this wonderful game full of hours of entertainment for less than on trip to the movies.
P.S. @ all you lames who read this grow up and stop nagging at CCP your all at home ignoring your families and they just want to go home to there families and watch the game!
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Ariana Nova
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:29:00 -
[943]
If our opinion mattered we wouldn't be posting here.
So I will grin and bear it because I have to.
I take no pleasure in my fellow gamers misery, I feel your pain as my X president would say.
We share a common addiction to the best MMO out there...So I wish them (CCP) Godspeed..with the emphasis on speed.
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Rhaegar Thrax
Gallente
Musashi X
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:29:00 -
[944]
So, Eve is online again? Nice, but first I want pancakes with ice
Everybody have fun with internet spaceships, I'll see you later
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Braetac Toric
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:31:00 -
[945]
It's not about whining... it is about principle.... don't miss your offline window by 30 freakin hours.
BTW... that post... they need to update it to say this is what June 23 and 24th should look like.
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FullNelson Mandella
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:31:00 -
[946]
Howdy CCP,
Do you gents need a hand?
I propose that you create a forum in which you could ask technical questions and receive ideas and insight from your players. A fair number of us are SEs, DBAs, and technologists.
It just seems like you (CCP) are constantly operating at the edge of your abilities and could use all the (free) help you can get.
Frank
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Ranger 1
Amarr
Dynaverse Corporation
Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:41:00 -
[947]
Originally by: manidu
Edited by: manidu on 24/06/2010 15:37:52
EULA 12.
[...]
# While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures.
You all agreed to this when you created your account. Didn't read it? Your own fault. Now stop complaining about DT, would you? ;)
EDIT: This also means you cannot claim any reimbursement for that downtime! If we get one, it's only because of CCP's goodwill, and I wouldn't give us one after reading all this whining...
This pretty much spells it out people.
That being said, CCP has in the past given a free day when a downtime has unexpectedly run long or a severe bug has surfaced after an upgrade/expansion. However, that was completely at their discretion and they were under no obligation to do so.
By the way, when they say it is always a good idea to set a long skill before an upgrade/expansion they mean it. People who get their panties in a bunch over a few hours of skill training lost tend to make me laugh anyway... although I shouldn't (obsesive/compulsive behavior isn't a joking matter).
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Shurikane
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:44:00 -
[948]
Originally by: CCP
In gratitude for your patience, we will give an extra pool of skillpoints to all accounts (paying and trial) that were active at the beginning of this downtime, on one character per account. This skillpoint pool will be appropriately sized for the downtime time frame, universal across all accounts regardless of character attributes/implants and may be applied as each player wants.
Lost time reimbursed. Enjoy!
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Jak daYakMaker
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:52:00 -
[949]
Originally by: Shurikane
Originally by: CCP
In gratitude for your patience, we will give an extra pool of skillpoints to all accounts (paying and trial) that were active at the beginning of this downtime, on one character per account. This skillpoint pool will be appropriately sized for the downtime time frame, universal across all accounts regardless of character attributes/implants and may be applied as each player wants.
Lost time reimbursed. Enjoy!
Cheers......CCP Got it right.....I feel so better already....I guess I will come in off the window ledge.....lol.....
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:54:00 -
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Well I guess 3 on-topic posts is better than the worst-case scenario.
Any forum mod who explains where the posts went (or who ate them) has my permission to lock this thread.
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Karhig Duruckhai
Caldari
Shut Up And Play
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Posted - 2010.06.24 16:56:00 -
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SO was i just asleep at the wheel? didnt know there was gonna be a downtime. /facepalm
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Van Flyhight
Selectus Pravus Lupus
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Posted - 2010.06.24 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: CCP
In gratitude for your patience, we will give an extra pool of skillpoints to all accounts (paying and trial) that were active at the beginning of this downtime, on one character per account. This skillpoint pool will be appropriately sized for the downtime time frame, universal across all accounts regardless of character attributes/implants and may be applied as each player wants.
Like I said on my corp forums: I'll take it, thank you very much!
There will be plenty of time for retribution; I cannot wait to get its hands on these psychotic zealots whose primary form of worship apparently takes place at the altar of orbital bombardment.
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Frenzerelly
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Posted - 2010.06.24 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: TaraSien Da
Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Seriously, just kill yourself.
All of you.
in about few bilions years everything what human-kind archieved will be forgotten, there will be no sign of us ever existed. Anything you deem its important, is important just for you, even if you claim its not. Everything you write, quote, think is just complex memory transgression. You all are just slaves of the sociaty you live in. You cant change it. So who cares about downtime, who cares about some time your toon lose in training queue. In less then 100 years all of you will be dead anyway.
There is no real world, there is only our limited capability of understanding the things around us.
A few billion? Try about 20,000...probably less.
On importance...am I the only one who thinks spending some of my limited time of self-awareness being mentally stimulated by a form of entertainment is important? I think not. :)
I can change my slavery status within the society in which i exist simply by leaving that society. So can you.
Not all of us will be dead in 100 years. Advancements in science and medicine are already seeing to that. It's estimated that the average lifespan of a human born after 1995 is 120 years.
I think these people are concerned about downtime and training queues and whatnot because it's something to do to alleviate the monotony and distance themselves from the cold hard facts of life you tried to describe.
Kudos on the last bit...about reality being what we perceive. That part is profound, if not over-used.
By the way, what is a "complex memory transgression"? :)
Cheers
Really think we will make another 20K years? I am not a pessimist, but I doubt that! The way we (humans) are on the way to destroy this earth, I don't think we even make 2 centuries. Look what we did to the gulf of Mexico, that alone will take more then a century to recover. Oil is still flowing massively, and all they are concerned about is the economy.
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