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Slik Minmatar Brutal Deliverance	Posted - 2010.09.02 11:40:00 - [91] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox OK, here I am to ask CCP why they won't introduce a mechanism, a skillset that players can use to remove nuisance Cloakers who are only there to ruin the gameplay of other players who are trying to enjoy this game that they pay good money for? Come on CCP, surely you can admit that almost everyone is sick and tired of being locked down by some griefer in a system when in this game there are many ways available to give us skillsets that can make the balance a little more even. Cloaking griefers are not players in the whole sense of the word. They are spoiling the game's strategy because in itself afk cloaking is a strategy that cannot be beaten/defeated at all and that is unfair. You have balanced many other things in the game and for every armor or shield or power supply there is a way to defeat or enhance, but when it comes to cloaking and going afk nothing can be done and many players are throwing good money after bad on this game to log in and find yet again gametime wasted day after day by the same old cloaky-griefers. DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS!! PLEASE!!!! Raj. I've noticed a problem with what you're saying here... You say they are cloaky griefers but are afk. So if they are AFK whats the problem? Quit whining. Jeez. Yep.
Kireiina	Posted - 2010.09.02 11:45:00 - [92] Edited by: Kireiina on 02/09/2010 11:47:26 It is poor game design that a cloaked ship can project force (by occupying enemy territory and being a potential threat) while AFK with no practical means of retaliation. Either there should be some way of tracking down a poor or AFK cloaker or the cloak effect needs some sort of maximum duration. But, eh, it's CCP so maybe they'll do something about it in a couple of years.
Slik Minmatar Brutal Deliverance	Posted - 2010.09.02 11:47:00 - [93] Originally by: Wyke Mossari Edited by: Wyke Mossari on 02/09/2010 10:51:42 The solution is simple and balanced. Cloaks should stop/fail/end at essentially random periods. Something that can be dealt with by a AK player but is highly risky for an AFK player. Cloaks should require fuel/supplies that is consumed or a crystal that wears out like laser/mining crystals. I'll take whatever he's drinking. Yep.
Arasul Gallente	Posted - 2010.09.02 11:47:00 - [94] Edited by: Arasul on 02/09/2010 11:47:39 Originally by: RandomYarrr lulz? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6469216 OP's carebear yawn waggon got blowed up by ebil piwat. /thread ninja edit: loling at 1 bill lost
Scott Ryder Amarr art of eve Gunmen of the Apocalypse	Posted - 2010.09.02 11:49:00 - [95] Originally by: Kireiina It is poor game design that a cloaked ship can project force while AFK with no practical means of retaliation. Either there should be some way of tracking down a poor or AFK cloaker or the cloak effect needs some sort of maximum duration. But, eh, it's CCP so maybe they'll do something about it in a couple of years. Either that or people could stop whining about it and playing the game as it is?
Max Khaos Limited Liabilty Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.02 11:49:00 - [96] Ships desgined to cloak ...... should cloak and be able to stay that way ... Everything else shouldn't be able to fit the (5000 cpu)
Scott Ryder Amarr art of eve Gunmen of the Apocalypse	Posted - 2010.09.02 11:51:00 - [97] Originally by: Arasul Edited by: Arasul on 02/09/2010 11:47:39 Originally by: RandomYarrr lulz? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6469216 OP's carebear yawn waggon got blowed up by ebil piwat. /thread ninja edit: loling at 1 bill lost op doesnt want to pvp, he wants to see the "cloaky griefers" so that he can pve in his system all by himself. I suggest he should get the **** back to highsec and carebear there like everyone else in safe enviroments.
Destruct0	Posted - 2010.09.02 11:51:00 - [98] Originally by: Max Khaos Ships desgined to cloak ...... should cloak and be able to stay that way ... Everything else shouldn't be able to fit the (5000 cpu) Stop feeding the troll...
RandomYarrr	Posted - 2010.09.02 11:54:00 - [99] Originally by: Scott Ryder Originally by: Arasul Edited by: Arasul on 02/09/2010 11:47:39 Originally by: RandomYarrr lulz? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6469216 OP's carebear yawn waggon got blowed up by ebil piwat. /thread ninja edit: loling at 1 bill lost op doesnt want to pvp, he wants to see the "cloaky griefers" so that he can pve in his system all by himself. I suggest he should get the **** back to highsec and carebear there like everyone else in safe enviroments. I wonder if the Cynabal had a cloak on it...wouldnt be the first time :P
Javelin6 Dirt Nap Squad	Posted - 2010.09.02 11:56:00 - [100] Originally by: Stitcher Originally by: Rajheen Orlox The mechanic in the gameplay is undefeatable. Well actually it's kind of self-defeating, because if you're AFK then *you're NOT DOING ANYTHING.* Seriously, if they're AFK then it's not the cloaker who's the problem, it's your own cowardice and rampant lack of any kind of testicular or spinal fortitude. Harden. The. F**k. UP! This. ______________________________________________
Aggelos Theristes	Posted - 2010.09.02 11:58:00 - [101] The only thing AFK cloaking can defeat 100% of the time is botting. I've AFK'd in null sec systems (via my wormhole) and seen ratters pos up for hours on end, the minute I disappear from local they're back. I log off and go to bed, and log on about 12 hours later.... LOOK WHO IT IS! IT'S BOTTY MCBOT! If you're afraid of an AFK cloaker, who has been in local for days and not done anything, then get some alts in adjacent systems... or go back to high sec tbh. Local could always be removed, then you wouldn't know the AFK cloaker was there in the first place and wouldn't have anything to worry about. I'd support that idea!
Hauling Hal	Posted - 2010.09.02 12:05:00 - [102] Edited by: Hauling Hal on 02/09/2010 12:06:48 Today's TOP TIP. Read all of the post before writing your reply, as this will prevent you from looking like an idiot: Originally by: Jareck Hunter Ignoring them, good tip. When he decloaks next to you and warp scramles you, you can not ignore it and warp away^^. Or when he opens a cyno someday and a nice fleet hotdrops you. I think you may find that he isn't AFK if he can warp scramble you. Originally by: Jareck Hunter Oh i love those people that alsways say get some protection, i think those people just love to stand next to a carebear and sitting there doing nothing while the "hostile" is safe and afk. Sounds fun, right? I am still waiting for the difference between the AFK Inty and the AFK Cloaker. Neither of which can be attacked and both of which provide a threat. See, the issue isn't the cloak, it's that someone might attack you. Now, if you had a combat ship or logisticc with your carebears, then the hostile may decide that the risk isn't worth it and go somewhere else. The only reason they choose to attack you is because you are clueless. Care Bear Options: 1. Get rid of AFK cloaking or 2. Get a clue I think you'll find Option 2 is what you are meant to do.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.09.02 12:05:00 - [103] AFK cloakers are the only ships in Eve with a built-in PVP flag. See a target. Approach it. Think you can take it? Then click the PVP flag ON (turn off cloak and engage). Don't think you can take it? Keep PVP flag OFF and laugh. No need to dock or log off. Go to the movies. Have some pizza. You'll be safe and cozy. Meanwhile, keep everyone else on their toes. After all, it is a cruel and harsh universe... Well, for almost everybody :P. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Hauling Hal	Posted - 2010.09.02 12:08:00 - [104] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Think you can take it? Then click the PVP flag ON (turn off cloak and engage). Don't think you can take it? Keep PVP flag OFF and laugh. Thanks for agreeing that it is really easy to make them stay cloaked by making the target difficult to kill. Thus, they stay cloaked and can continue to be ignored.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.02 12:11:00 - [105] Originally by: Kireiina It is poor game design that a cloaked ship can project force (by occupying enemy territory and being a potential threat) while AFK with no practical means of retaliation. Good news, then: they can't. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.09.02 12:12:00 - [106] Originally by: Hauling Hal Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Think you can take it? Then click the PVP flag ON (turn off cloak and engage). Don't think you can take it? Keep PVP flag OFF and laugh. Thanks for agreeing that it is really easy to make them stay cloaked by making the target difficult to kill. Thus, they stay cloaked and can continue to be ignored. Yes. I hear mining and PVE ships can keep them cloaked for hours on end. "But you're not supposed to be safe. You're supposed to be alert all the time and you're supposed to fly with friends... Well, unless you fly a cloaky like me... But but... um nevermind". Hypocrisy at its best. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.09.02 12:15:00 - [107] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Kireiina It is poor game design that a cloaked ship can project force (by occupying enemy territory and being a potential threat) while AFK with no practical means of retaliation. Good news, then: they can't. Then someone forgot to hand out the memo to the gangs of cloakers out there. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Hannibal Ord Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.09.02 12:19:00 - [108] There are very very few single cloaking ships that actually are a threat to any one single ship. Even if the ship decloaks and wants to engage you, the likelihood of you escaping is very high, because of the time to target etc. If you know it's there and you must carebear then just be on your toes. A group of cloaking ships, then yes that is threatening, but no more than a group of non cloakies in your system. It's always blown out of proportion how dangerous they are to ships. If I'm ratting sec status up, I'm much more scared of a very obvious Vagabond or Cynabal entering system than I am of something like a pilgrim or even the for-mentioned HAC's with cloaks fitted. And if you are carebearing, then the ship you are using, if threats exist, should be cheap enough that you can make the money to replace it in very little time at all plus some more. Or you carebear in a ship that would be pretty hard to kill or at least have a fighting chance, like a nano cane or something, rather than an active tanked pure PVE fitted ship. Most cloak fitted ships have only a small selection of ship types they can actually attack and destroy easily on their own. Fly such things and they don't decloak to attack you.
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 12:23:00 - [109] Originally by: Hannibal Ord There are very very few single cloaking ships that actually are a threat to any one single ship. Even if the ship decloaks and wants to engage you, the likelihood of you escaping is very high, because of the time to target etc. If you know it's there and you must carebear then just be on your toes. A group of cloaking ships, then yes that is threatening, but no more than a group of non cloakies in your system. It's always blown out of proportion how dangerous they are to ships. If I'm ratting sec status up, I'm much more scared of a very obvious Vagabond or Cynabal entering system than I am of something like a pilgrim or even the for-mentioned HAC's with cloaks fitted. And if you are carebearing, then the ship you are using, if threats exist, should be cheap enough that you can make the money to replace it in very little time at all plus some more. Or you carebear in a ship that would be pretty hard to kill or at least have a fighting chance, like a nano cane or something, rather than an active tanked pure PVE fitted ship. Most cloak fitted ships have only a small selection of ship types they can actually attack and destroy easily on their own. Fly such things and they don't decloak to attack you. You're forgetting the blops bridge. While OP is whining and needs to HTFU, don't make it more simple than it is. A stealth bomber can quickly turn into 3-4 blackops with 5-6 recons and a few stealth bombers to boot. I've done it with a fleet of about 20 stealth bombers. We just about insta popped a tengu. This is why I'm against OP's rant... I do it also, I'm in his alliance and this is one of the most fun things to do in this game.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.02 12:25:00 - [110] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Then someone forgot to hand out the memo to the gangs of cloakers out there. No. Someone forgot to hand out the memo to the self-appointed victims ù after all, their whole perceptions of themselves hinges on this false notion. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Captain Yifan Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.09.02 12:32:00 - [111] Give us the tool to ban any stupid troll who starts the n'th post about 'afk' cloakers. Oh yea, cloaked ships are so overpowered now that they dont require a human at the keyboard to scout out ****s and cyno stuff in.
Cabara Netas AFK Cloakies	Posted - 2010.09.02 12:51:00 - [112] OP Sounds REALLY, REALLY mad. Tell us, What did you lose? Oh, also on an unrelated note, you live over here, right? Also, you have good people in your alliance, how did you get in there OP? Originally by: Zagdul Do it back to them they have ratting systems they wish the cloaky guy wasn't in. Bait them... when they cov-ops bridge, mess em up (or get messed up). But try... coming to the forums and whining about it won't change anything. Getting in a combat ship and shooting another ship will. Originally by: Zagdul Don't like the cloaky guy in your system, get in a ship bait him with a fleet of your friends. From your US TZ FC.. GL HF. Have mah babies.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.09.02 13:00:00 - [113] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Then someone forgot to hand out the memo to the gangs of cloakers out there. No. Someone forgot to hand out the memo to the self-appointed victims ù after all, their whole perceptions of themselves hinges on this false notion. Right. If you fly a PVE/mining ship you are a self-appointed victim. Got it. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MajorBJ Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.09.02 13:01:00 - [114] Originally by: d026 i also dont like that afk cloaking is so damn easy. they should put autorepeat off the module.. so you have to manualy trigger a new cycle. cycle can be long tough 5-10mins OMG
Killerjock	Posted - 2010.09.02 13:04:00 - [115] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox OK, here I am to ask CCP why they won't introduce a mechanism, a skillset that players can use to remove nuisance Cloakers who are only there to ruin the gameplay of other players who are trying to enjoy this game that they pay good money for? Come on CCP, surely you can admit that almost everyone is sick and tired of being locked down by some griefer in a system when in this game there are many ways available to give us skillsets that can make the balance a little more even. Almost everyone. Except that I've never met anyone outside these forums (that is, in eve, the game) that gives a damn about "cloaky griefers". DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS!! PLEASE!!!! Raj. Yawn.
Riedle Minmatar Wayne's TV and Appliances	Posted - 2010.09.02 13:04:00 - [116] So you won't run sanctums with an AFK cloaker in system? lol If you aren't willing to do that then go back to empire - simple. Then I'm sure you will be back whining about Ninja Salvagers. It never ends really. Stop asking for the game to change because you refuse to play a MMORPG which this is. click here
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.02 13:08:00 - [117] Edited by: Tippia on 02/09/2010 13:11:59 Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Right. If you fly a PVE/mining ship you are a self-appointed victim. Got it. No. If you're afraid of something that is AFK, you are a self-appointed victim. If he attacks you, he is not AFK, and standard precautions apply. If you refuse to employ standard precautions, you are once again a self-appointed victim. Whether you're frying a PvE, mining, transport, PvP, or a red-nosed clown ship is entirely irrelevant. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.09.02 13:12:00 - [118] Excuse me slowly raises hand I have a question? Why do we play into these threads, I prepose a way to stop these Cloak whiners. We tell them there right, treat them like there special, very special. Let them think we give two F*cks about them then laugh behind there backs! Because calling them stupid to there face is not working anymore. We have to stop the madness of these threads! -- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist
True Sight THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2010.09.02 13:22:00 - [119] This thread has come up a hundred or more times, people whine and complain, but it keeps coming up for valid reasons. A single cloaked low-skilled alt can effectively lock down a system and limit its usefulness. those 20 Hulks can't sit comfortably in the hidden belt, your Orca pilot doesn't feel comfortable taking the jump-bridge into the system or warping to the belt to scoop the ore. You're rorqual for the compression and ganglinks is unwilling to jump into the system to help because there is a huge risk of a super-cap hot-drop. As stated in the thread, there's no protection, combat etc of that for these, apart form keeping an entire combat-gang on standby at all times, which ultimately isn't fun (this is a game, its supposed to be fun remember?) 1) You have a support fleet for your mining op / pve activities - PvE's get to do what they want, mine, rat etc - PvPers will most certainly sit around and do absolutely nothing, or join in on the pve too, because whilst there's a gang protecting the system, there won't be any hot drops - on the other hand, you could have a hostile 100man gang dropped on your head on top of your entire mining fleet, or some guys Marauder. 2) You don't have a fleet - Your caps get locked down and super-cap ganked - smaller guys get bombed - pve ships get locked down and ganked Either option isn't fun or interesting, and the cloaked player has the entire advantage, because they can go AFK for 5 hours, come back and help hot-drop a jump freighter. Solution? not really sure, but it would be good if there was a change of some-sort, I quite like the cloak using a fuel, heavy water or something loaded into the module like cap charges, so there's a finite limit to cloaking per session or something. -------------------------------------- True Sight President Foiritan Emissary --<<!SUPPORT DRONES!>>--
annoing Amarr Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.	Posted - 2010.09.02 13:24:00 - [120] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox troll --- Nice troll attempt but unltimate fail is ultimate. Crawl back under your rock little bug, crawl. This sig is unrelated to any relatives

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