Am I the only one noticing a 15% reduction in max ore and merc mining and a 20% reduction in max ice mining from current absolute maximums. Mining buff is actually a stealth nerf. \o/

I will agree that the change to how many crystals you can hold is a tad annoying (especially for the largely solo jetcan miner) but it is merely an annoyance not something that will greatly impact your normal mining routine.

Plan to redock numerous times over a mining session.

Not exactly happy mining.

he cant go afk in it anymore ofcourse

This is the only gripe I have about the entire thing. Folks won't want to deposit their crystals in the fleet support ship without some mechanism for telling who owns which crystal (assuming they even trust their corpmates, which isn't always the case). It's also a huge kick in the nuts to jetcan miners in deep 0.0 who live in neglected areas and are able to go an entire day without seeing anybody else, or have an intelligence network able to let them set up shop with a full set of everything, and just spend the whole day blasting rocks (like I did in J-OK0C a couple years ago).

How often do you change crystals?

Am I the only one noticing a 15% reduction in max ore and merc mining and a 20% reduction in max ice mining from current absolute maximums. Mining buff is actually a stealth nerf. \o/

How often do you change crystals?

Am I the only one noticing a 15% reduction in max ore and merc mining and a 20% reduction in max ice mining from current absolute maximums. Mining buff is actually a stealth nerf. \o/

Set up a few GSC for crystal storage?

In static belts, this is a viable option. For grav sites, though, it's additional pain for questionable gain (Case 1: You anchor the can, but barges are so slow that by the time you shuttle back and forth, you could have just gone back to base. Case 2: The belt has despawned, and now you have to fetch your probing ship, find the new site. Switch to your hauler to go to the old site, unanchor, reanchor. Switch to your barge. And now you're back to Case 1.)

How did you calculate ice yields, because as far as I can tell, your numbers are very off

Unless I did my math wrong 73 blocks/hr (on the hulk) is in line with what a perfect mackinaw with a perfect orca booster will get right now.

See above real fast, I just wrote a post real fast to get a place holder, then edited it in with more detailed information. My information is pulled from direct dealings off the test server, using rorqual boosts with mindlink, perfect miners, max yield fit, perfect implants. Orca boosts != max boosts. But that might help to explain things.

Unless I did my math wrong 73 blocks/hr (on the hulk) is in line with what a perfect mackinaw with a perfect orca booster will get right now.

My "math" is looking at a maxed out rorqual boosted Hulk in EFT and seeing that it gets 2857m3/minute in yield. 2857m3 x 60 minutes is 171,420m3 per hour, which means 1,171,420 units of veld per hour, which is in line with what the blog says after accounting for the fact that I didn't bother to plug implants into the miner profile in EFT.

So, assuming the information posted in the blog here is accurate, things don't change. If sisi has different information, then perhaps its running a slightly older version than what is going to push to live or something.

Wait, so with the conversion to an Ore hold, do cargo expanders still work? Or will those just apply to the base cargohold?

Wait, so with the conversion to an Ore hold, do cargo expanders still work? Or will those just apply to the base cargohold?

My "math" is looking at a maxed out rorqual boosted Hulk in EFT and seeing that it gets 2857m3/minute in yield. 2857m3 x 60 minutes is 171,420m3 per hour, which means 1,171,420 units of veld per hour, which is in line with what the blog says after accounting for the fact that I didn't bother to plug implants into the miner profile in EFT.

So, assuming the information posted in the blog here is accurate, things don't change. If sisi has different information, then perhaps its running a slightly older version than what is going to push to live or something.

my maths has gone wrong somewhere, i've got 104.0625 second cycles with rorq bonuses, somehow i'm just getting more yield.

a hulk with...
t2 strips + t2 crystals, astrogeology, mining, mining barges, exhumers all at V, then 2x mlus and both the 5% highwall and the michi implant i'm getting 1961.03...m3 per cycle per strip, giving me 3392m3 per min.

**** knows, it's too late at night for me to be messing with this crap.

with orca bonuses it's 2898.5.. m3/cycle, giving 173,911m3 which is closer to dev blog numbers.

What happens if you take out the Michi? I doubt many people even bother acknowledging its existence given the 1b price tag.

my maths has gone wrong somewhere, i've got 104.0625 second cycles with rorq bonuses, somehow i'm just getting more yield.

a hulk with...
t2 strips + t2 crystals, astrogeology, mining, mining barges, exhumers all at V, then 2x mlus and both the 5% highwall and the michi implant i'm getting 1961.03...m3 per cycle per strip, giving me 3392m3 per min.

**** knows, it's too late at night for me to be messing with this crap.

with orca bonuses it's 2898.5.. m3/cycle, giving 173,911m3 which is closer to dev blog numbers.