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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4498
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:45:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:As I said not really worth the read.
who died and made you lord decider of what is worth reading?
if you're going to cry about what I write maybe you should link it for context, heh! please leave |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9289
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:45:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Oh its the talk drivel stance. Well, maybe if you gave your OP a bit of context and actually discussed the topic you decided on, it would be so drivel-like.
Quote:Actually the article is just more Null tears about making their lives even easier so no I did not quote it. As I said not really worth the read. Strange that you spent so much time on it, then. Anyway, so what is this GÇ£case for removing learning implantsGÇ¥ of yours?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
616
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:46:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Nope it was not that article Which one, then? I will try to find it for you as I cannot remember the title at the moment. I read a lot of articles.
Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4498
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:47:00 -
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as for our site being a "GSF/CFC mouthpiece" we've had pieces on nerfing local, keeping/removing off-grid boosting, and news articles on engagements we've lost, won and were not involved in at all
however if you're going to complain about the article being "opinionated" when it's blatantly titled as an opinion piece, I don't know what to say! please leave |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:48:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Oh its the talk drivel stance. Well, maybe if you gave your OP a bit of context and actually discussed the topic you decided on, it would be so drivel-like. Quote:Actually the article is just more Null tears about making their lives even easier so no I did not quote it. As I said not really worth the read. Strange that you spent so much time on it, then. Anyway, so what is this GÇ£case for removing learning implantsGÇ¥ of yours? Well its easy people who cannot appear to read don't get implants.
My apologies Tippia. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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MisterNick
The Sagan Clan Pax Romana Alliance
95
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:48:00 -
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Not a bad troll from EN24 there. Almost as good as the guy a week or so back and his....ideas.... for rebalancing battleships  "Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom." |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
689
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:49:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Oh its the talk drivel stance. Well, maybe if you gave your OP a bit of context and actually discussed the topic you decided on, it would be so drivel-like. Quote:Actually the article is just more Null tears about making their lives even easier so no I did not quote it. As I said not really worth the read. Strange that you spent so much time on it, then. Anyway, so what is this GÇ£case for removing learning implantsGÇ¥ of yours?
eh, they just want to add +10 learning implants, saying how long it takes to lvl for capitals and supers. They are flying in null sec, so they feel that they should be flying these ships, and get them faster then most pilots. I suppose its fair if you think about it. I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:50:00 -
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Andski wrote: however if you're going to complain about the article being "opinionated" when it's blatantly titled as an opinion piece, I don't know what to say!
Strange the article does not seem to have the word opinion. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:51:00 -
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Andski wrote:as for our site being a "GSF/CFC mouthpiece" we've had pieces on nerfing local, keeping/removing off-grid boosting, and news articles on engagements we've lost, won and were not involved in at all
however if you're going to complain about the article being "opinionated" when it's blatantly titled as an opinion piece, I don't know what to say! Oh I almost missed it.
Why would you call a site that if you did not want people to think it was your mouth piece? Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Lord Zim
1186
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:52:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Andski wrote: however if you're going to complain about the article being "opinionated" when it's blatantly titled as an opinion piece, I don't know what to say!
Strange the article does not seem to have the word opinion. Did you see the words "The Case for" in the article title? And the category it was under? |

non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
816
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:54:00 -
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If you remove the learning implants then would you suggest giving everyone a boost to their base attributes by 4-5 points to make up for the lack of implant bonus?
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:55:00 -
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Andski wrote:Frying Doom wrote:As I said not really worth the read. who died and made you lord decider of what is worth reading? if you're going to cry about what I write maybe you should link it for context, heh! No I believe you were doing the crying about implants and how unfair it is that Null PvP pilots don't want to use them. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4498
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:56:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:No I believe you were doing the crying about implants and how unfair it is that Null PvP pilots don't want to use them.
pretty sure the implant set I have in my nyx alt is worth more than any ship you own laffo please leave |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4498
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:56:00 -
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non judgement wrote:If you remove the learning implants then would you suggest giving everyone a boost to their base attributes by 4-5 points to make up for the lack of implant bonus?
That'd be the inevitable conclusion, yes. The article is not a proposal for their removal, but an argument against their continued existence in the game. please leave |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:58:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Andski wrote: however if you're going to complain about the article being "opinionated" when it's blatantly titled as an opinion piece, I don't know what to say!
Strange the article does not seem to have the word opinion. Did you see the words "The Case for" in the article title? And the category it was under? Oh so every time I see "a case for" it is just an opinion and there for has no relevance and should just be ignored because it is just someones opinion.
Hell I always thought that when some one put a case forward it was a set of reasonable arguments or factual statements proving a point. My mistake.
On mistake no I was mistaken the article did have a kill board attached. So my bad on that might have just been an opinion by me so therefore not worth complaint. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:59:00 -
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Andski wrote:non judgement wrote:If you remove the learning implants then would you suggest giving everyone a boost to their base attributes by 4-5 points to make up for the lack of implant bonus?
That'd be the inevitable conclusion, yes. The article is not a proposal for their removal, but an argument against their continued existence in the game. So any gain for those people who do not die often or do not choose to PvP would be lost. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Lord Zim
1186
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:00:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Oh so every time I see "a case for" it is just an opinion and there for has no relevance and should just be ignored because it is just someones opinion.
Hell I always thought that when some one put a case forward it was a set of reasonable arguments or factual statements proving a point. My mistake.
On mistake no I was mistaken the article did have a kill board attached. So my bad on that might have just been an opinion by me so therefore not worth complaint. ITT: opinion pieces can't also have reasonable arguments or factual statements proving a point.
The more you know. |

Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
807
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:01:00 -
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Removing learning implants certainly would remove a barrier to null sec. I don't know how many times I've been reluctant to jump out somewhere because it was going to slow my skill progression. Well, I do know - it's every time. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4498
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:02:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:So any gain for those people who do not die often or do not choose to PvP would be lost.
why are you so intent on punishing those who aren't as risk averse in their gameplay as you are? please leave |

non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
816
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:03:00 -
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Andski wrote:non judgement wrote:If you remove the learning implants then would you suggest giving everyone a boost to their base attributes by 4-5 points to make up for the lack of implant bonus?
That'd be the inevitable conclusion, yes. The article is not a proposal for their removal, but an argument against their continued existence in the game. Maybe I should read your article then. I agree that your suggest would be a good idea.
The price of my implants has always been in the back of my mind when I fly around lowsec and null. It stops me from getting into fights with the people there. I don't mind the cost of clones. |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:09:00 -
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Andski wrote:Frying Doom wrote:So any gain for those people who do not die often or do not choose to PvP would be lost. why are you so intent on punishing those who aren't as risk averse in their gameplay as you are? Actually I have no implants on the clone I mostly use, this would be why Battle Clinic estimates my SP at 30 million more than it is.
But I do not believe everyone else should loose out because I decided I don't want to lose implants. I am in an area that is riskier than Hi-sec but I gain rewards in the form of isk for not being in hi-sec.
Why should I be rewarded even more than I am now? Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
690
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:10:00 -
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Can I do an opinion piece on themittani.com why faction items shouldn't be used outside the system its bought in? Or why its imperative for just one CSM member to be removed randomly twice a year? I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:12:00 -
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rodyas wrote:Can I do an opinion piece on themittani.com why faction items shouldn't be used outside the system its bought in? Or why its imperative for just one CSM member to be removed randomly twice a year? Actually the second one would be funny if it was completely random  Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Lord Zim
1186
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:14:00 -
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rodyas wrote:why faction items shouldn't be used outside the system its bought in? Oh, this should be good. Please elucidate. |

Benny Ohu
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
282
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:17:00 -
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What confusion could there possibly be over whether the article is an opinion piece? I really, really don't understand this here |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
690
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:18:00 -
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Yep, Right in the middle of a summit in iceland, one shall randomly be asked to leave. Then everyone at the summit must continue on as if nothing had happened, and everything was as should be. I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |

Herold Oldtimer
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:22:00 -
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I'm in favor of removing the implants and their bonuses altogether. |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:24:00 -
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Herold Oldtimer wrote:I'm in favor of removing the implants and their bonuses altogether. So slow down everyone's SP, allowing for a decline in the differences between biter vets and newbies? Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4498
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:33:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Actually I have no implants on the clone I mostly use, this would be why Battle Clinic estimates my SP at 30 million more than it is.
But I do not believe everyone else should loose out because I decided I don't want to lose implants. I am in an area that is riskier than Hi-sec but I gain rewards in the form of isk for not being in hi-sec.
Why should I be rewarded even more than I am now?
For the most part, the players who can really reap the rewards of living in wormholes or in 0.0 are not the ones who care about how fast they're training a given skill. On Andski I can fly basically anything Minmatar short of capitals, my supercap alt is no longer at the point where I'm concerned about how fast its skills are training, my "can fly basically everything subcapital" alt is no longer at that point either. While I do remap my characters, "unlocking" anything faster doesn't really concern me.
New players, on the other hand, do get more excited about unlocking t2 small autocannons or whatever because it's new stuff for them. I keep a cache of +2 implants to give to newbies, some of our members give them free +3 sets, whatever. But that set is worth 10-100 times what their clone is worth and makes up half of the ISK in their wallet.
I can get back the cost of a +4 set in less than an hour of blitzing anoms. That's not something a newbie can do. please leave |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4498
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:35:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:So slow down everyone's SP, allowing for a decline in the differences between biter vets and newbies?
How would this slow down anyone's skill training? If they removed learning implants, they'd probably make up for it by adding base points. please leave |
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