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Chad Richardson
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:08:00 -
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Sorry, CCP are liars even if you u-turn you'll try this ***t again in another 18 months
This is just an empty pointless apology which misses the mark by several parsecs.
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Brahsef Stalin
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:09:00 -
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It's obvious CCP's plan is to let the "steam" die down over the weekend, so when they come back with a condescending reply we, the seething masses, will not react as heavily to their new plans to fleece us and milk us for the money they possibly can.
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Eladaris
Amarr Excessum Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Isis Soryu
Originally by: Eladaris
And now it's after 5pm your time right? So we get to stew in our own juices until Monday? Yes, we appreciate that you popped on at 12:30am to start this thread... but surely a few simple words could get folks to settle a bit?
HAHA, if they do, it'll be the biggest mistake yet.
Well, we know a hundred pages of silence surely isn't getting anyone to lower their pitchforks... and CCP Pann started off by admitting that ignoring the issue was a bad idea.
You'd think they'd learn from a mistake they already made once today.
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Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: Velicitia on 24/06/2011 17:09:59 Edited by: Velicitia on 24/06/2011 17:09:45
Originally by: MorbidSpawn
Originally by: Grey Stormshadow
Haven't filled yet? Head here
Filled it.
CCP needs to see this.
filled it. Indeed they need to see this. edit -- 161 pages! =========================
Originally by: CCP Games, Tyranis Expansion, Summer 2010 Creation is so precious...and greed, so destructive.
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Sativian Finch
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:10:00 -
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The die is cast. When they run out of innovation then they substitute success and quality with profitability. CCP is becoming like General Motors and so many others who embrace cold comfort for change. I regret not joining Eve sooner.
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lidia Zarmel stuff
Hint: This isn't just about the CQ. Go read some more.
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Lynx Amurie
Caldari Rage For Order Nihil-Obstat
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 24/06/2011 16:39:13
Originally by: Janus Talmash ~4500 replies, ~400k views and the normal working day has ended. Someone better be working overtime to get us some official words (that have actual meaning), because if you think you can make us wait till after the weekend you're not very bright.
The Janitor will be posting the FRIDAY NEWS SPECIAL on his way out, just before turning out the lights for the weekend.
fixed that image for you :) (as best i can anyway)
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Perramas
Caldari Pan Caldarian Ventures
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:10:00 -
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I feel sorry for the innocent employees who will be getting laid off around Christmas. Think of the children CCP, replace the leadership at CCP and change direction before it is too late.
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Eladaris ... and CCP Pann started off by admitting that ignoring the issue was a bad idea.
And she did so by ignoring the real issue, LOL.
-- "All your monies AUR belong to us." -- CCP |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:10:00 -
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We don't need promises. Those are just words, vibrating air, patterns on a visual medium.
We need actions. Those are real. Proof that you mean it. Even if it may be rash.
Buzzwords and spinning won't save you now. It's too late for that. --------
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Imagonnawhupya
Malicous Mischief
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: Imagonnawhupya on 24/06/2011 17:11:58 Can someone post the link to the newsletter? I seem to have lost it somewhere in the rioting.
Originally by: CCP Shadow This thread has been cleansed of bodily fluid references - CCP Shadow
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Smoking Blunts
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:11:00 -
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please roll back to pre CQ. there are so many anoying features that have aroaded game play. these are little bugs that you wont fix for 5 years(ok at this point dont think you have that long left).
so so many and anyone that brings them up in the issue thred is simply ignored.
this is why you suck, no customer service anymore its all about the $
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Kristina Vanszar
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:11:00 -
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let's make them listen: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536803&page=1
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knanid volatar
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Yo****aka Moromuo
Originally by: knanid volatar
Originally by: Yo****aka Moromuo It's also kind of hard when the forum userbase drives that second party away... which I believe we've seen demonstrated here.
Stop whiteknighting you fool.
CCP asked us to post here. They asked for Parley.
Then they reverted back to their standard operation procedure of waiting for the rage to subside; thus making the original request for discussion completely pointless.
In a nutshell the request for parlay was a lie. But noone is surprised this time.
And I'm sure that attitude gives you many friends. Yes, they requested parley. And what happened? They were rather vocally attacked. I'm sure they're in the right for mostly backing off.
1. What does the amount of friends I have got to do with anything whatsoever?
2. The request for Parlay was a response to players already raging.
3. Petitioned for offensive language within your name
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: Miilla on 24/06/2011 17:13:12
I like Incarna, pitty CCP fecked it up and going to feck it up some more.
I like standing in the CQ dock looking in awe at the huge Vargur or Fenrir or Tengu sitting there.
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Gabrial Jobs
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:11:00 -
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The idea that you wish to introduce Pay to Win in a subscription-based sandbox shows just how out-of-touch CCP has become. Who really thought that was a good idea? Who did you expect to stick around for it? At least this came out now, just in the last week or two I was considering reactivating an account or two for the summer. Thanks for saving me that bit of cash and if this cart keeps rolling the way it looks to be my last account will go bye-bye too.
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Ripley Nostromo
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla BLA BLA BLA, MOAN + GRUNT, MOAN + GRUNT
That pretty much sums it all up....
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Words Words Words
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: DeathCam
Originally by: Orphan World
Quote:
Everyone must read
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Thevani Khashour
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: Thevani Khashour on 24/06/2011 17:12:21
Originally by: Miilla
Eve Customers will flex a little, they have, they accepted vanity items in the NEX store, they accepted the PLEX, but game changing MT items, they won't budge on most likely. CCP has a plan, they are executing on it, doesn't matter how far customers flex a little. CCP doesn't care, it is their time table and their demise.
No sense in fighting what is already comming, let em screw it up, it's just a game for us, it is a job for them, which is now at greater risk, we have no risk to take. Let em screw themselves.
I have no problem with this at all, really, I have 110 days remaining, I just hope CCP don't go bankrupt between now and 110 days time, after that, I don't care if they get layoffs. Not my problem really.
I plan to have fun all the way out, if that fun means laughing at CCP and their employees, Fine by me, Just another form of fun.
No sense in being miserable over it, it's not worth it, and neither are CCP.
When the rats trolls leave the game, that is a time to worry, really, it is.
TODO:
1) Play Eve 2) Watch CCP's demise - IN PROGRESS 3) Watch real train wreck to compare with item 2) 4) If no train wreck available, watch a sinking ship to compare with item 2)
That would make me want to actually watch the Titanic if I didn't have to watch that hideous love story jammed into it.
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Zhula Guixgrixks
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: Zhula Guixgrixks on 24/06/2011 17:12:41
All that awesome biz talk sounds like : that guy. Too bad for CCP, we are not in the 80ties anymore.
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Mechael
Minmatar Helhest
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:13:00 -
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I'm picturing a lot of intense conflict and negotiation happening at CCP HQ right now. I can see it now ... the money-grubbers vs the employees that actually care about EVE. Who will win, I wonder?
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Sgt Maru
Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:13:00 -
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We were supposed to get an official statement sometime today? Does it have to pass through CCP Atlanta and CCP Shanghai before it gets released?
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Veriasse Valence
Gallente Axitek Consortium
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:13:00 -
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I managed to scroll through most of this thread, but I did quit around page 130 once I realized there were no new blue posts. A lot of good thoughts in here, and rightfully expressed indignation and rage.
For me, AUR and the NEX fundamentally changed my experience of EVE. I, like many others, have played a number of other mmos that are basically f2p, such as NavyField and WoT, but that have a good deal of microtransactions built in. These games inevitably feel arcadey for it, you are always aware of the fact that this is just a game, I can yank out my credit card and suddenly poof a whole pile of stuff into existence. PLEX did allow a similar influx of ISK into your wallet, but it was not immersion breaking. Kinda made sense, the way they played it as CONCORD pilot licenses, and even if you bought and sold them they were still worth game time you could redeem. Now, AUR makes game time disappear in exchange for horrendously overpriced and ugly customization options in an environment where you may not get to show it off for a minimum of months. The fact it stares you in the face and that EVE is now being developed around it changes the feel of the whole game.
I can no longer load up the game world and feel like it is its own distinct entity, one wherein my hard work is commensurately rewarded with success, advancement, or failure. Now I log in intimately aware of the fact that I can't afford to waste real money selling PLEX or using AUR. At some point this will inevitably mean I am at a disadvantage to others, whether it is because I can't store enough fittings for the numerous ships I fly or that I still use 'lame' faction ammo instead of the fancy new AUR ammo. Sure, those with enough riches in game or in real life can buy lots of these goods off the NEX and sell them to us peons for the usual ISK, but then we'd have to rely upon the RMTers to get the equipment to compete.
Not only that, but speaking as an industrialist, selling anything outside of minor vanity items and not including it in the player economy as something needing resources and skills to create is undermining the basic fundamentals of your own game. Without those resources being used, the only people able to make ISK are mission runners and ratters. Extraction of natural resources in all its forms continues to take a backseat. Mission and rat bounties do not fluctuate based on the inflation or deflation of currency, so while miners continue to make less and less, doing the same old missions on autopilot nets you more in comparison (has to date at any rate). Do we really need to continue to exacerbate this crucial issue?
Really though, the killing blow for me was the change of the entire atmosphere of EVE. I heard it best when someday said they now feel like they are logging into a cheap Korean F2P mmo. As AUR continues to grow in use and importance, as CCP has stated, this will only continue to get worse. Soon enough you won't be able to do anything without CONCORD billboards showing ads for 5% sales on monocles and redeem PLEX now get 500 extra AUR! I always used to come back to EVE off and on, it held my imagination like nothing else, but with the intent on CCP's part of moving forward with this new strategy, the universe they've created has been indelibly tarnished in my mind. I can no longer separate in game fortune from out of game fortune, and I generally play games to remove myself from the real world for a time. Thanks for all the fish, and see ya later.
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Crunchmeister
Gallente Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mechael I'm picturing a lot of intense conflict and negotiation happening at CCP HQ right now. I can see it now ... the money-grubbers vs the employees that actually care about EVE. Who will win, I wonder?
Money always wins.
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Eclorc
Originally by: Da Gooch
Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?
This is the only thing that needs an answer right now, everything else comes second to this vital question, simple as.
I'll add to this message. If I see "no plans at the moment" or "forseeable future" or any other wriggle-out clauses in the response I'm gone for good.
Nothing short of 100% commitment to NEVER allow anything beyond VANITY items will keep me here, as anything less would signal clearly the intent to renege down the line.
As long as the item can then be sold for isk it doesnĘt change a thing. It will be just like plex. Why the big drama?
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diaufop
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:13:00 -
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Ripley Nostromo
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gabrial Jobs The idea that you wish to introduce Pay to Win in a subscription-based sandbox shows just how out-of-touch CCP has become. Who really thought that was a good idea? Who did you expect to stick around for it?
LOTS of people will stick around for it....
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Seako
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Miagi Sans
Originally by: Miilla
Step 1) Break Eve Step 2) Charge AUR for fixes Step 3) Wonder where all the customers went
as much as i am ****ed right now at CCP, your incessant childish posting is making me loathe you at the moment more so than CCP
Ragequit over the token greed part I guess.
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Azztoroid
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:14:00 -
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actualy, there might be reson for the silence....
First they have to get a hold of a guy on vacation around the Bahamas
The next one is on hes yacht, but the satphone is off...
Then there is one in monaco semi drunk on a cassino...
One is looking at a new house somewhere in France..
Next one is having a threesome with some co wokers...
The ones they do get a hold of are saying....hey i need a new car...**** em....
That is why there is all the silence...
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Republica Winder
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.24 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Gabrial Jobs The idea that you wish to introduce Pay to Win in a subscription-based sandbox shows just how out-of-touch CCP has become. Who really thought that was a good idea? Who did you expect to stick around for it? At least this came out now, just in the last week or two I was considering reactivating an account or two for the summer. Thanks for saving me that bit of cash and if this cart keeps rolling the way it looks to be my last account will go bye-bye too.
Clearly DUST is going to be "Pay To Win". How much of a stretch, given the tone of that newsletter, would it be for EVE to get "pay to win" too?
CCP isn't concerned with making a great game. They are concerned with making money. Where they have become disconnected is they don't understand that without the first the second will never happen.
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