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Crasniya
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:16:00 -
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Tarpedo wrote:Flamespar wrote:Who are the pro WiS candidates? I'd say zero - because none of them reflected it in their "shortlists". It seems they've used WiS only as a keyword(s).
Bear in mind, shortlisting WiS in many respects is a way to ensure you don't get elected. So a votematch support for it's development, with a comment about it, is probably pretty high praise, comparatively. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
5335
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:23:00 -
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Rhes wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Rhes wrote:Tweek Etimua wrote:Well if your going to compete with SC I think you're going to have to do something. But what ever you do it has to be HUGE.
Unfortunately I doubt the player base will allow it. I refer to the summer of rage. SC isn't an MMORPG. In SC people play space pilots and they have the option to play on one universe, be merchants, pirates who gank them and so on. The first part is RPG, the latter is MMO, together I'd say it's MMORPG enough. Unless you don't consider "MMO" pirates ganking merchants, in which case EvE is not a MMO either. It'll probably be a sort of SWTOR "single player friendly but you still play in a MMO" gameplay. You need to look up what MMO stands for. Especially the first letter.
SC has currently 407k or so backers, which is as close to "subs" as it gets.
You'd say: "well, that's not a lot"!
Then I remind you how EvE, after 10+ years, is about at the same numbers.
Then I remind you how MMOs like Istaria / WAR online have 4-5k subs yet they are / were called MMOs.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4329
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:32:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Rhes wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Rhes wrote:Tweek Etimua wrote:Well if your going to compete with SC I think you're going to have to do something. But what ever you do it has to be HUGE.
Unfortunately I doubt the player base will allow it. I refer to the summer of rage. SC isn't an MMORPG. In SC people play space pilots and they have the option to play on one universe, be merchants, pirates who gank them and so on. The first part is RPG, the latter is MMO, together I'd say it's MMORPG enough. Unless you don't consider "MMO" pirates ganking merchants, in which case EvE is not a MMO either. It'll probably be a sort of SWTOR "single player friendly but you still play in a MMO" gameplay. You need to look up what MMO stands for. Especially the first letter. SC has currently 407k or so backers, which is as close to "subs" as it gets. You'd say: "well, that's not a lot"! Then I remind you how EvE, after 10+ years, is about at the same numbers. Then I remind you how MMOs like Istaria / WAR online have 4-5k subs yet they are / were called MMOs.
Bernie Maddoff also made a lot of promises and had a lot of backers/investors too. But you know what Bernie and SC really have in common?
Neither one has yet to produce a game I can actually play.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
5335
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:11:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:
Bernie Maddoff also made a lot of promises and had a lot of backers/investors too. But you know what Bernie and SC really have in common?
Neither one has yet to produce a game I can actually play.
Yeah a 40M project has certainly to be delivered *well polished* by 1 year, like all the MMOs ever produced!
Oh wait, they always take 2-3 years at a minimum and come PAX they should showcase the dogfight module.
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
648
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:15:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Doc Fury wrote:
Bernie Maddoff also made a lot of promises and had a lot of backers/investors too. But you know what Bernie and SC really have in common?
Neither one has yet to produce a game I can actually play.
Yeah a 40M project has certainly to be delivered *well polished* by 1 year, like all the MMOs ever produced! Oh wait, they always take 2-3 years at a minimum and come PAX they should showcase the dogfight module.
yep mid 2015 alpha of game world at best ...but stuff do look nasty good in SC development HUD is gonna be killer imo. http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4332
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:15:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Doc Fury wrote:
Bernie Maddoff also made a lot of promises and had a lot of backers/investors too. But you know what Bernie and SC really have in common?
Neither one has yet to produce a game I can actually play.
Yeah a 40M project has certainly to be delivered *well polished* by 1 year, like all the MMOs ever produced! Oh wait, they always take 2-3 years at a minimum and come PAX they should showcase the dogfight module.
Thanks for making my point!
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1261
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:52:00 -
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Rhes wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:It's inevitable that one day WIS will become part of the eve universe Rhes. It's already there. Dock up and enjoy walking around (very slowly) in the station!
That's why I'd like to see it completed, it's no different to wanting to see sov revised as it's already in the game. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
5336
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:55:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Doc Fury wrote:
Bernie Maddoff also made a lot of promises and had a lot of backers/investors too. But you know what Bernie and SC really have in common?
Neither one has yet to produce a game I can actually play.
Yeah a 40M project has certainly to be delivered *well polished* by 1 year, like all the MMOs ever produced! Oh wait, they always take 2-3 years at a minimum and come PAX they should showcase the dogfight module. Thanks for making my point!
Your point mentioned Bernie Madoff, which is a bit different than taking 2-3 years to code a game. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Zheng He-Da
Industria Traho Incorporated
22
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:49:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:Anslo wrote:So does this mean you're unlocking our doors this winter and ungrounding us? How in himmelsname did you get to that? Well the door needs unlocked to go get the EVA suit?....I just want non-spaceshippy sci fi gameplay sprinkled with the spaceship gameplay. This isn't supposed to be space ship only. Eve set out to be the world's largest and greatest SCIENCE FICTION SIMULATOR, not just a spaceship simulator. Except ships have a speed limit, and handle like space has viscosity of motor oil |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4349
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Posted - 2014.04.10 15:16:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Doc Fury wrote:
Bernie Maddoff also made a lot of promises and had a lot of backers/investors too. But you know what Bernie and SC really have in common?
Neither one has yet to produce a game I can actually play.
Yeah a 40M project has certainly to be delivered *well polished* by 1 year, like all the MMOs ever produced! Oh wait, they always take 2-3 years at a minimum and come PAX they should showcase the dogfight module. Thanks for making my point! Your point mentioned Bernie Madoff, which is a bit different than taking 2-3 years to code a game.
You are correct, Bernie's name was mentioned, but that was not the point. Selective reading comprehension for the win! I bolded the relevant bits for you. (I know... reading is HARD).
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
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Catherine Wolfisheim
Terran Republican Guard
223
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Posted - 2014.04.10 16:21:00 -
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Okay, this thread is quite huge... And confusing... So, can someone tell me simply... What happened to the whole nice ideas that were said at the introduction of Team Avatar? ~ C.W.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1297
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Posted - 2014.04.10 16:48:00 -
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They have stayed in prototype phase. Now probably not relevant to a whole bunch of SC backers or EVE "spaceships are the future" persons. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. |
Crasniya
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
501
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:11:00 -
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Catherine Wolfisheim wrote:Okay, this thread is quite huge... And confusing... So, can someone tell me simply... What happened to the whole nice ideas that were said at the introduction of Team Avatar?
CCP did a prototype, and then decided not to develop it, and disbanded Team Avatar. |
Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
766
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:46:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Rhes wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:It's inevitable that one day WIS will become part of the eve universe Rhes. It's already there. Dock up and enjoy walking around (very slowly) in the station! That's why I'd like to see it completed, it's no different to wanting to see sov revised as it's already in the game. The sov system is actually broken. Unless your characters' legs no longer propel you around your captain's quarters WiS is working.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
5336
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:57:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Doc Fury wrote:
Bernie Maddoff also made a lot of promises and had a lot of backers/investors too. But you know what Bernie and SC really have in common?
Neither one has yet to produce a game I can actually play.
Yeah a 40M project has certainly to be delivered *well polished* by 1 year, like all the MMOs ever produced! Oh wait, they always take 2-3 years at a minimum and come PAX they should showcase the dogfight module. Thanks for making my point! Your point mentioned Bernie Madoff, which is a bit different than taking 2-3 years to code a game. You are correct, Bernie's name was mentioned, but that was not the point. Selective reading comprehension for the win! I bolded the relevant bits for you. (I know... reading is HARD).
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Tarpedo
Incursionista
1315
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:13:00 -
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World of Darkness is dead officially. Like -10% of CCP's total workforce are fired and I guess that will release approximately half of CCP's R&D budget.
Perhaps we have a chance to see actual EVE expansion couple years later - maybe even WiS expansion. |
Teinyhr
Venlith Taal
392
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:21:00 -
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Tarpedo wrote:Perhaps we have a chance to see actual EVE expansion couple years later - maybe even WiS expansion (some of WoD devs will continue to work for CCP)
There once this guy right, he said he had a dream right... Well, just saying I consider this very unlikely. CCP's pretty clearly shown they don't give a **** about WiS (except for marketing purposes) and won't iterate on it in the next 5 years at least. |
Arduemont
The State of War.
3164
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:41:00 -
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Tarpedo wrote:World of Darkness is dead officially. Like -10% of CCP's total workforce are fired and I guess that will release approximately half of CCP's R&D budget. Perhaps we have a chance to see actual EVE expansion couple years later - maybe even WiS expansion (some of WoD devs will continue to work for CCP)
Yea, I saw that. Really disappointing. I'm going to drop my subs. Not specifically because of this but I've just lost my faith in CCP's ability in general. I might resub every couple of expansions to see what's what but that's about it. It's not like i've actually been playing the last couple of months anyway. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf |
Droidyk
Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven
51
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:45:00 -
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Indeed, The EVE Universe is there, we are just exploring and opening more and more within it. I am so excited |
Broker Agent
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:00:00 -
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I actually cancelled my sub a little while ago. That announcement just made me more secure in my decision. |
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4448
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:06:00 -
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To any of you un-subbing over this wonderful development, can I have your stuffs?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Arduemont
The State of War.
3165
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:21:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:To any of you un-subbing over this wonderful development, can I have your stuffs?
I'm not un-subbing because of this really... I'm just bored. I've played Eve with a continuous sub for more than 5 years. It just doesn't hold my interest any more. I just needed an excuse and reading that gave me the excuse.
Also no, you can't have my stuff. Can't blame you for trying though. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4451
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:59:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Doc Fury wrote:To any of you un-subbing over this wonderful development, can I have your stuffs?
I'm not un-subbing because of this really... I'm just bored. I've played Eve with a continuous sub for more than 5 years. It just doesn't hold my interest any more. I just needed an excuse and reading that gave me the excuse. Also no, you can't have my stuff. Can't blame you for trying though.
I take an extended break 1-2 times a year, I recommend this to anyone who has been playing more than a couple years.
It's a great time to do it too, summer is coming, the trees are blooming, and the wimmenz are starting to wear less and less.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
1052
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:15:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote: I take an extended break 1-2 times a year, I recommend this to anyone who has been playing more than a couple years.
This, really, every time you get a feeling that "you should log into EvE to do X", take a break.
Doc Fury wrote: It's a great time to do it too, summer is coming, the trees are blooming, and the wimmenz are starting to wear less and less again.
Wait a month and come to Stockholm ... ;)
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Crasniya
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
507
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:24:00 -
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I'm really hoping maybe a few of the former WoD employees might be tasked to work on WiS, but I think it's probably unlikely still, unfortunately. |
Arduemont
The State of War.
3166
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:40:00 -
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I guess now is a good time to take a break. Average active player numbers are the lowest they have been in two years and still falling.
As for hoping the guys from WoD team will move over to Eve and then work on WiS. Don't even think about it, they laid off all 56 of them.
Looks to me like CCP isn't in a very good state frankly. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf |
Kuronaga
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
223
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:54:00 -
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Give me decent WiS PvE/Social content, move Dust to PS4 so it actually has a chance on a system that isn't crippling its potential, add deadspace/suborbital areas for Valkyrie pilots to fight in which ties into existing planetary conquest/Sov engagements... and yea, I could see those sub numbers rising again.
Game is currently what it has always been. It's been getting more of what it's always gotten which is no bad thing, but isn't enough. Time for some brave new strides. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1286
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:07:00 -
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Rhes wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Rhes wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:It's inevitable that one day WIS will become part of the eve universe Rhes. It's already there. Dock up and enjoy walking around (very slowly) in the station! That's why I'd like to see it completed, it's no different to wanting to see sov revised as it's already in the game. The sov system is actually broken. Unless your characters' legs no longer propel you around your captain's quarters WiS is working.
It does not look broken to me, it's simply a popular conceit. I think sov is fine and personally I have no need of it, so from now I would advise ccp not to bother replacing it. Sov is not eve. Eve is about people, avatars are the future, planting flags on star systems is working fine, just ask the goons, it's working well for them. The space game is finished, the avatar game started with cq needs finishing.
Htfu etc. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1287
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:06:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:I guess now is a good time to take a break. Average active player numbers are almost the lowest they have been in two years and still falling.
As for hoping the guys from WoD team will move over to Eve and then work on WiS. Don't even think about it, they laid off all 56 of them.
Looks to me like CCP isn't in a very good state frankly.
Personally I think that ccp are cleaning the balance sheet ready for a take over. I would bet that they've been approached by EA, as they've taken on ea staff and have gone balls out to raise revenue with plex for everything. I think hilmar is sick of eve as he's never been the same since the fallout from the greed is good memo. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Flamespar
The Southern Legion League of Infamy
1140
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:12:00 -
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Can CCP actually deliver anything?
Except hype of course EVE Chronicle: An audio drama set in the EVE universe
http://evechronicle.blogspot.com.au/ https://twitter.com/Flamespar |
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