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Klarissa Knight
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:43:00 -
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Elise Randolph wrote:Oh baby baby b-b-b-baby Oh baby baby Get up on THIS
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1069
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:43:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote:I'm not really convinced on the connection between FW and rising PLEX prices. Unless it meant that there were a few hundred new accounts created solely for the farming of FW LP and they were powered with PLEX, which may have increased demand enough on PLEX purchases to drive up costs.
I think the simpler explanation is that the poor economic climate in the real world means fewer people are willing to splurge on buying PLEX/GTC to sell in-game for ISK. Combine that with the new features that CCP rolls out like a re-sculpt for PLEX, new AUR items, and other things that can be bought with PLEX and you have too much demand compared to the supply.
(And maybe toss in a little speculator action.) CCP has alot of data. For example, they can tell how many people were:
Not using PLEX pre Inferno, Joined FW with main or alts, Started using PLEX soon after.
So if they say they see a connection, chances are they got the data. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
83
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:43:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Shepard Book wrote:I was looking forward to the re positioning of the capture / defending nodes in the faction ware fare plexes. Did I miss that in this blog? I did not see it. Yup, all of the stuff in the linked forum posts by Ytterbium is still in the plan, with the exception of the "Any defender anywhere in the plex stops capture" thing which the community correctly pointed out to us wasn't going to be a positive change.
Awesome on both counts. Thx
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Amantus
Doctrine. FEARLESS.
196
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:44:00 -
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now where did i put my butt ointment? |
Gibbo5771
RAM Legion DOT Reloaded DOT
20
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:45:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Good news everybody! Some of the Factional Warfare changes have been deemed ready for prime time and will be going out ahead of schedule.
As be of the many abusing your **** up, deemed ready a WHOLE month before initial release. I can see this rushed pile of shite going well, I'd rather you just disabled the whole tier system the now and release on the planned date. |
Ambo
I've Got Nothing
39
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:46:00 -
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Great stuff. Extra awesome for really listening to the players. I think once I get over my xcom obsession, I may be back in eve :) |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
538
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:46:00 -
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There was certainly massive levels of dialogue. Have you seen the threads?
And the only thing wrong right now is that PVP has gone from OMGWTF MASSIVE levels to OMGWTF incredible levels lately. Kills/corp are still over 2x times they were before May. So, sorry to disappoint. INFERNO WAS GREAT for FW.
But otherwise I agree a bit. Farmers will move to defensive plexing. Front is going to stagnate a bit - but it's been pretty stagnant lately anyways - where it counts. I think it will be easier for small groups to hold space because defensive farmers will do most of their defensive work for them, but it may be tougher for small groups to take a system for the same reason.
Veshta Yoshida wrote:Thank you for vindicating all my doom'n'gloom. Saddens me on the behalf of FW that I was not proven wrong though
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
537
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:50:00 -
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Ah how not playing for a few months except setting skills changes perspectives. There I was thinking plex prices were high because of Incursions. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5276
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:55:00 -
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Finally. This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
fofofofofo |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1373
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:00:00 -
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Gibbo5771 wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Good news everybody! Some of the Factional Warfare changes have been deemed ready for prime time and will be going out ahead of schedule. As be of the many abusing your **** up, deemed ready a WHOLE month before initial release. I can see this rushed pile of shite going well, I'd rather you just disabled the whole tier system the now and release on the planned date.
Oh what irony.
Instead of drooling words into the forums as fast as you can type, perhaps you should proofread *your* work before releasing it, and let CCP worry about testing their work.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
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Kuro Yami
Look At Me I'm A Chocolate Biscuit
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:01:00 -
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http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb3trmLIXj1r167ek.gif
Well maybe now people will do FW to pvp like they are supposed to. I tried a bit of farming myself to see if I could get a cnr (600k LP) only to be told my 200k LP could be worth over a billion isk... Way to much isk in farming right now so I welcome this surprise update. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
681
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:02:00 -
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So, tomorrow, they are only changing with the LP stuffs..... but not changing plex ship restrictions yet???
I'd love to see the ship restrictions altered, the sooner the better... |
Zarnak Wulf
Imperial Outlaws
663
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:05:00 -
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I read it quick twice. They aren't changing plex limitations yet if I read it right?
Edit: thx for making it a surprise |
Ra Jackson
CRIMINALS IN ACTION
48
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:06:00 -
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One downtime notice would have been sensible to give factions time to panic flip and provoke some fights. |
Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1391
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:07:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:To implement this earlier is biggest fuckup CCP can make in FW ever If that is the case, then it would be great to hear why it is so in your opinion. Just saying that you think something would be bad doesn't help our developers to figure out eventual issues. Because his "side" won't be able to cash-out before tomorrows patch.
Farmer tears. Awesome.
Caldari Militia |
Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
167
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:07:00 -
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What a nice birthday gift! Game of Drones, you rock! |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
326
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:08:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:....Front is going to stagnate a bit ... A bit .. did you read the same blog as I did, they are doubling (2x) buffers/upgrades and decreasing bleed by a whopping 80% .. that is a factor ten compared to current, Have fun plexing that down when defender gets points for being AFK on top
Systems held after DT will not flip in the foreseeable future, will be nigh impossible to do, so map tomorrow will be as static as null has been for the past year+ (excepting renter/sheep changes).
As for pew increasing .. I checked the data and the spike didn't really happen until the farm was running which means that it is millionaire-fights (as opposed to bum-fights before) .. all FW boards should move the digit in the kill value one or two places to the left. ... hahahahahah Personally never took pleasure in killing, was purely out of service (RP) and quite frankly see no point in it if it has zero effect on anything which is what infinite ISK (effectively) means. War without recognized costs is just a slaughter (ref: WWI).
What scares and annoys me is that this is supposedly the last iterative pass for the time being, tweaks here and there probably but what they push on the morrow is what you have to live with for the next two or three years .. not really seeing it.
By the way, CCP: Are you going to develop the storyline at all? Has been completely frozen for ages. |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
1949
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:11:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:X Gallentius wrote:....Front is going to stagnate a bit ... A bit .. did you read the same blog as I did, they are doubling (2x) buffers/upgrades and decreasing bleed by a whopping 80% .. that is a factor ten compared to current, Have fun plexing that down when defender gets points for being AFK on top Systems held after DT will not flip in the foreseeable future, will be nigh impossible to do, so map tomorrow will be as static as null has been for the past year+ (excepting renter/sheep changes). As for pew increasing .. I checked the data and the spike didn't really happen until the farm was running which means that it is millionaire-fights (as opposed to bum-fights before) .. all FW boards should move the digit in the kill value one or two places to the left. ... hahahahahah Personally never took pleasure in killing, was purely out of service (RP) and quite frankly see no point in it if it has zero effect on anything which is what infinite ISK (effectively) means. War without recognized costs is just a slaughter (ref: WWI). What scares and annoys me is that this is supposedly the last iterative pass for the time being, tweaks here and there probably but what they push on the morrow is what you have to live with for the next two or three years .. not really seeing it. By the way, CCP: Are you going to develop the storyline at all? Has been completely frozen for ages.
Tomorrow is definitely not the last FW patch in the near future. We're still releasing another set of changes in Retribution at the very least.
And as for the storyline, all I can tell you is that I'm very excited about what I know is coming, and I'm not privy to all of the secret plans. Game Designer | Team Game of Drones https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie |
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Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1391
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:11:00 -
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Hmm. Seems the only posting the CSM does now is to cheerlead devblogs.
At least we know the CSM is doing their job marketing the game. Caldari Militia |
Audrey Koshka
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:13:00 -
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Hans had made a suggestion at one point that PvP kills pay out at the max multiplier regardless of current faction tier to reward pewpew, any word on that possibility? |
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Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Liandri Covenant
264
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:14:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:To implement this earlier is biggest fuckup CCP can make in FW ever If that is the case, then it would be great to hear why it is so in your opinion. Just saying that you think something would be bad doesn't help our developers to figure out eventual issues.
I do not see any reason why new fw will work at all.
There is no reason to attack plex at all. - If you think that people will take any plex on tier 1 if enemy side has example tier3 , why would they ? - LP is practically worthless after this update because you can not really compete with all those stockpiled tier5 items. - Defending is so much easier, you can still use 1 day alts for defending.
finally i doubt there is not even contested systems to defend.
There is not driving force for whole militia like tier 5 bonused shop is now.
so people go back to missioning and FW system warfare is over.
You are nerfing FW too hard because you 1st boosted it too much.
And why to implement it on 1 day warning when it has been 6 month broken, now all systems will be on some side and no one can implement their plans.
Maybe Hans want to make sure that minmatar will not be on trouble. |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
1949
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:15:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Hmm. Seems the only posting the CSM does now is to cheerlead devblogs.
At least we know the CSM is doing their job marketing the game.
My devblogs bring all the capsuleers to the yard.
In all seriousness, it's one of the side effects of showing dev blogs to the CSM ahead of time and often incorporating some of their feedback before release. Game Designer | Team Game of Drones https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie |
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marketjacker
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
39
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:15:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:There was certainly massive levels of dialogue. Have you seen the threads? And the only thing wrong right now is that PVP has gone from OMGWTF MASSIVE levels to OMGWTF incredible levels lately. Kills/corp are still over 2x times they were before May. So, sorry to disappoint. INFERNO WAS GREAT for FW. But otherwise I agree a bit. Farmers will move to defensive plexing. Front is going to stagnate a bit - but it's been pretty stagnant lately anyways - where it counts. I think it will be easier for small groups to hold space because defensive farmers will do most of their defensive work for them, but it may be tougher for small groups to take a system for the same reason. Veshta Yoshida wrote:Thank you for vindicating all my doom'n'gloom. Saddens me on the behalf of FW that I was not proven wrong though
If you enjoy killing the same 10 people and shooting dessie's and frigs, then yes I suppose FW was great. If you hunted merlins and incursus, then yea it was AMAZING.
Otherwise FW was temporarily fixed then quickly ruined by Inferno. This system was insane, the new one while it makes sense, doesn't lure in farmers, which is great, but I think everyone is about to find the FW low sec areas a little quieter. I'm glad because Caldari have all systems vunerable now and should take them. Gallente LP will never be as easy to come by as it was now, and my riches will be worth far more in the future than they were now. CCP didn't do Gallente any favors, nor Caldari.
Gallente are stuck at 11-15 systems, and Caldari are stuck with no tier 5 push because they are greedy :). |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
326
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:18:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Tomorrow is definitely not the last FW patch in the near future. We're still releasing another set of changes in Retribution at the very least. But the system being implemented will be set in stone as it were, yes? So will those future patches be more than the NPC/ Plex changes and tweaks to the various spreadsheets .. that is my concern, because I frankly don't see how switching from swarming Zerg mechanics to a bunkering Terran ditto will do much for FW when it comes to fun/gameplay.
CCP Fozzie wrote:And as for the storyline, all I can tell you is that I'm very excited about what I know is coming, and I'm not privy to all of the secret plans. Don't know your sensitivity, you could be one of those people who get faint at the mention of a new iphone coming out even when knowing it will be more of the same .. just saying Otherwise, good to know. Maddening neglect on that front so will be happy that anything is coming really ..
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Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
812
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:19:00 -
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alert plex price crashes in multiple sectors incomeing Price increase also coming in other sectors.
inb4 holycrapsauce |
Orakkus
The Fancy Hats Corporation Kraken.
85
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:30:00 -
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Quote: GÇóHave plex capture timers visible to everyone in system so you can easily tell which plexes are close to being captured.
I am kind of curious on this. To me this change doesn't really improve gameplay and this piece of intel definately favors the attacking player and not the defensive player, because I presume that the timer will be actively showing on everyone's HUD throughout the system, so you will know if an enemy is at a particular plex or not. While I see how this information could be "nice" to have, I don't see it something critical or game-breaking if it wasn't implimented. In some respects, it makes finding your opponent, particularly solo pilots, a bit too easy.
Could you clarifiy the reasoning behind this? |
Carlton Foster
The Scope Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:32:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:alert plex price crashes in multiple sectors incomeing Price increase also coming in other sectors.
inb4 holycrapsauce
I appologize for being a bit ignorant on this subject, but how exactly does this effect plex prices? I have heard people are getting a lot of ISK out of some imbalance or other in FW. But how does this directly effect PLEX sales? Do people with a lot of cash just buy PLEX for the thrills? I'm just curious how it all works. |
Carlton Foster
The Scope Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:33:00 -
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Oops, double post. |
Radgette
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:36:00 -
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i realise the afk plex system has to change as it's too easy to speed tank the plex
i do however believe having to kill the npc's which will in turn absolutely destroy your faction standings will disuade a large number of players from FW
personally i'm already -10 with amarr faction so this won't affect me, i do however think it will stop a lot of people doing offensive plexes, especially with defensive plexes offering lp as well, even if it's on a smaller scale
so perhaps lower the standing hit from the npc's in the fw plexes or i do see it becoming a graveyard. |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
573
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Posted - 2012.10.22 18:37:00 -
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Radgette wrote:i realise the afk plex system has to change as it's too easy to speed tank the plex
i do however believe having to kill the npc's which will in turn absolutely destroy your faction standings will disuade a large number of players from FW
personally i'm already -10 with amarr faction so this won't affect me, i do however think it will stop a lot of people doing offensive plexes, especially with defensive plexes offering lp as well, even if it's on a smaller scale
so perhaps lower the standing hit from the npc's in the fw plexes or i do see it becoming a graveyard.
Being in the opposite factions militia should absolutely tank your standings. This just makes sense. |
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